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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:38pm On May 10, 2017
komekn:


I agree with you mostly.

However, our boys wherever they come from Europe or directly from Nigeria. Will have to compete against promising young players based here. So if they cannot cut it in thier respective clubs. The expected progress may be difficult.

Also you can support and be patriotic about your team without loosing objectivity, not you.

The less sentiment expressed the more objective and the better we are prepared to compete.

It's in this context I am bewildered why top performing players like Onyedinma and Aluko have not been invited.

I want the best available players to enable Nigeria progress. Not the most connected players who will limit that progression.

Onyedinma and Aluko are playing lower league football. Perhaps a case can be made for Aluko but not Onyedinma.. not yet.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 3:40pm On May 10, 2017
komekn:


Don't forget this is the same Rogers that messed up Balotelli and Benteke.

that's it, and some peeps here are screaming for OYEKURU to go to Celtic chaii,

SUPER MARIO, is now making it in NICE,
same with BANTEKE in PALACE
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:42pm On May 10, 2017
Eagles Call-up: Did Rohr Succumb To Pressure?
Mumuni Alao

SUPER Eagles manager Gernot Rohr on Monday released a 25-man list of players for camping ahead of Nigeria's opening 2019 AFCON qualifier against South Africa in Uyo next month.

Prominent on the list dominated as usual by foreign-based players were the home-based trio of Stephen Odey (MFM FC), Sikiru Olatunbosun (MFM FC) and Alhassan Ibrahim (Akwa United FC). A fourth home-boy is goalkeeper Ikechukwu Ezenwa of FC IfeanyiUbah, but he had always been part of the squad.

The debuting home-based outfield players are in focus because of the outcry that greeted their total exclusion from Rohr's squad during the Eagles recent friendly game against Senegal in London. A section of the media were so stringent and so persistent in their criticism that it is plausible that the German coach succumbed to their pressure this time around.

Rohr had maintained that home boys should cut their teeth in the African Nations Championship (CHAN) with the Eagles Team 'B' before they could be considered for Team 'A.' The only reason I can fathom for his sudden change of mind is the pressure that he came under the last time.

Nigeria is a very interesting country. Not so long ago, we all were lamenting the dwindling fortunes of the Super Eagles, how they were playing so poorly, how they had failed to qualify for two AFCONs back-to-back and how we feared they stood no chance in a 2018 World Cup qualifying draw that had Algeria and Cameroun.

Rohr fortuitously arrived on the scene, restored our confidence in the team, introduced fresh ideas, and won his first two World Cup qualifiers to turn Nigeria from group underdogs to group favourites. Rather than give him more elbow room to continue with his revival of the team, “we” decided to launch the needless, weather-beaten home-based players campaign.

First, it was a troop of British-born Nigerians footballers invading the Eagles camp in London with their fathers in open connivance with NFF officials while a helpless Rohr looked on. Now this! Well, our wishes have been granted and my sincere prayer is that all should turn out well.

I can surmise what's playing in Rohr's mind regarding all these external pressures. “It's their country anyway. If that's what they want, let them have it so I can have my peace.” I pray sincerely that this peace of the graveyard will not result in a fatal derailment of our collective desire of qualifying for Russia 2018 and Cameroun 2019.

Honestly speaking, I have no problem with our home boys being part of the Super Eagles Team 'A.' Many of them have great talent and that is why they immediately excel when they move abroad and are exposed to better coaching. But I have a big problem with officials, media or fans pressurizing the coach to include certain players in his team. Such pressures only lead to distractions that can undermine the team.

Now that Rohr has given Odey and Co. their chance to “experience” the national team, shall we allow him to concentrate on the task ahead against South Africa, please? Thank you very much!

http://www.soccertalknigeria.com/2017/05/eagles-call-up-did-rohr-succumb-to.html?m=1

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 3:47pm On May 10, 2017
Icon4s:


Were you here during that Oliseh-Siasia transition?

I mean 2017 AFCON qualifiers?

Every goal we conceded "na Ambrose cause am".
Wow! That would have made me fight some folks. But I believe he was no more the ambrose we use to know.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bigblangston: 3:55pm On May 10, 2017
do4luv14:


jst pont outside. Where you don't understand, and I will explain,
shekina
No pun intended bro. I actually don't understand the write up, mind if you can break it down for my block head. thanks
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:06pm On May 10, 2017
Certitude:

Wow! That would have made me fight some folks. But I believe he was no more the ambrose we use to know.
Ambrose gained weight and lost his fitness. I remember the last time I saw him training with the Eagles, he looked fatter than a footballer should and I made that observation

I sincerely hope he has lost that unsightly weight and started taking fitness seriously. He was an eyesore

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 4:25pm On May 10, 2017
Guys Nwobodo just scored for Rangers. they lead away at Gombe.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 5:01pm On May 10, 2017
anyone remember Ademola Rafael, from the 2007 u17 set. he captained the final match against spain due to Haruna lukman's suspension. anyone remember him? he now plays for Abia comets in the NNL. icon4s, goldfish80, Bascovanveli, tbaba1234 and all the elders in the house

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:10pm On May 10, 2017
Great piece! Can someone please direct Amaju Pinnick's attention to this article?

He's no longer picking my calls after I criticized him several months ago embarassed

O pari


tbaba1234:
Eagles Call-up: Did Rohr Succumb To Pressure?
Mumuni Alao

SUPER Eagles manager Gernot Rohr on Monday released a 25-man list of players for camping ahead of Nigeria's opening 2019 AFCON qualifier against South Africa in Uyo next month.

Prominent on the list dominated as usual by foreign-based players were the home-based trio of Stephen Odey (MFM FC), Sikiru Olatunbosun (MFM FC) and Alhassan Ibrahim (Akwa United FC). A fourth home-boy is goalkeeper Ikechukwu Ezenwa of FC IfeanyiUbah, but he had always been part of the squad.

The debuting home-based outfield players are in focus because of the outcry that greeted their total exclusion from Rohr's squad during the Eagles recent friendly game against Senegal in London. A section of the media were so stringent and so persistent in their criticism that it is plausible that the German coach succumbed to their pressure this time around.

Rohr had maintained that home boys should cut their teeth in the African Nations Championship (CHAN) with the Eagles Team 'B' before they could be considered for Team 'A.' The only reason I can fathom for his sudden change of mind is the pressure that he came under the last time.

Nigeria is a very interesting country. Not so long ago, we all were lamenting the dwindling fortunes of the Super Eagles, how they were playing so poorly, how they had failed to qualify for two AFCONs back-to-back and how we feared they stood no chance in a 2018 World Cup qualifying draw that had Algeria and Cameroun.

Rohr fortuitously arrived on the scene, restored our confidence in the team, introduced fresh ideas, and won his first two World Cup qualifiers to turn Nigeria from group underdogs to group favourites. Rather than give him more elbow room to continue with his revival of the team, “we” decided to launch the needless, weather-beaten home-based players campaign.

First, it was a troop of British-born Nigerians footballers invading the Eagles camp in London with their fathers in open connivance with NFF officials while a helpless Rohr looked on. Now this! Well, our wishes have been granted and my sincere prayer is that all should turn out well.

I can surmise what's playing in Rohr's mind regarding all these external pressures. “It's their country anyway. If that's what they want, let them have it so I can have my peace.” I pray sincerely that this peace of the graveyard will not result in a fatal derailment of our collective desire of qualifying for Russia 2018 and Cameroun 2019.

Honestly speaking, I have no problem with our home boys being part of the Super Eagles Team 'A.' Many of them have great talent and that is why they immediately excel when they move abroad and are exposed to better coaching. But I have a big problem with officials, media or fans pressurizing the coach to include certain players in his team. Such pressures only lead to distractions that can undermine the team.

Now that Rohr has given Odey and Co. their chance to “experience” the national team, shall we allow him to concentrate on the task ahead against South Africa, please? Thank you very much!

http://www.soccertalknigeria.com/2017/05/eagles-call-up-did-rohr-succumb-to.html?m=1
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:13pm On May 10, 2017
LOL. Safari, you don kolo finis grin grin grin cheesy cheesy tongue

O pari

safarigirl:
Ambrose gained weight and lost his fitness. I remember the last time I saw him training with the Eagles, he looked fatter than a footballer should and I made that observation

I sincerely hope he has lost that unsightly weight and started taking fitness seriously. He was an eyesore

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 5:26pm On May 10, 2017
Danycrusoe:
Guys Nwobodo just scored for Rangers. they lead away at Gombe.

and he just scored a brace to give Rangers a two nil lead. Nwobodo is back. Am I safe to say that? Gombe 0 - 2 Nwobodo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:28pm On May 10, 2017
tbaba1234:


Onyedinma and Aluko are playing lower league football. Perhaps a case can be made for Aluko but not Onyedinma.. not yet.

tbaba1234 I expected more from you not the usual superficial comment, but far more depth.

When Onyedinma was 17 he was given a MOTM against Charlton in the championship. That same period Arsenal and Chelsea made offers he declined.

Onyedinma will become a free agent this summer able to negotiate a very juicy contract. He is on the radar of every premiership club.

He has chosen to stay waiting very patiently for the killer deal. Onyedinma is considerably better than Lookman.

Aluko wanted to play football with the ball on the ground. Fulham are the most technically gifted team in the Championship. It's a tactical choice particularly with the frustration of playing for a kick and rush manager in Hull. Fulham are in the play offs they could be in the premiership next season if that is your yardstick.

Let me remind you it's not always the team but the player. Gomez went from Championship Charlton to become Liverpool first team regular at 18 before a ACL injury stopped his progress.

Holegate went from League 1 at 18 to become Everton right back in the premiership.

Everton paid £11 million for Lookman a league 1 player.

Arsenal defender Rob Holding transfer from League 1 Bolton. Can I add that Kante best player in the premiership was playing in the French 3rd division barely 3 years ago.

The number one and most expensive left back in England plays for Fulham in the championship.

Who do you think we have that is better than Aluko and Onyedinma and ask yourself if you put those players in the rough, blood and guts of league 1
would they be able to perform and excel.

Now put these players in the premiership with better players and pitches who willl stand out.

Shall I talk about Dele Alli and his meteoric rise from MK Dons League 1 to Tottenham and now England's arguably best and most technically gifted player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:34pm On May 10, 2017
komekn:


tbaba1234 I expected more from you not the usual superficial comment, but far more depth.

When Onyedinma was 17 he was given a MOTM against Charlton in the championship. That same period Arsenal and Chelsea mare offers he declined.

Onyedinma will become a free agent this summer able to negotiate a very juicy contract. He is on the radar of every premiership club.

He has chosen to stay waiting very patiently for the killer deal. Onyedinma is considerably better than Lookman.

Aluko wanted to play football with the ball on the ground. Fulham are the most technically gifted team in the Championship. It's a tactical choice particularly with the frustration of playing for a kick and rush manager in Hull. Fulham are in the play offs they could be in the premiership next season if that is your yardstick.

Let me remind you it's not always the team but the player. Gomez went from Championship to become Liverpool first team regular at 18 before a ACL injury stopped his progress.

Holegate went from League 1 at 18 to become Everton right back in the premiership.

Everton paid £11 million for Lookman a league 1 player.

Arsenal defender Rob Holding transfer from League 1 Bolton. Can I add that Kante best player in the premiership was playing in the French 3rd division barely 3 years ago.

The number one and most expensive left back in England plays for Fulham in the championship.

Who do you think we have that is better than Aluko and Onyedinma and ask yourself if you put those players in the rough, blood and guts of league 1
would they be able to perform and excel.

Now put these players in the premiership with better players and pitches who willl stand out.

For all of the ability of Kante, do you think, he would have been called to the French team if he continued playing in the third division? Kante was only called up when he started performing in the premier league.

Onyedinma could be as talented as you say but unless he is tested at a higher level, we never really know, do we??

An easier case can be made for Aluko, He has been part of the team before and we have an idea of his abilities.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:35pm On May 10, 2017
safarigirl:
Ambrose gained weight and lost his fitness. I remember the last time I saw him training with the Eagles, he looked fatter than a footballer should and I made that observation

I sincerely hope he has lost that unsightly weight and started taking fitness seriously. He was an eyesore

I think your being too harsh.


But first when last dud you see him to make that deduction?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 5:36pm On May 10, 2017
a big fans violence may happen at the Pantami stadium in Gombe. Fans are already threatening Rangers players and officials. when will all this stop? it's now Gombe 1-2 Nwobodo. Gombe scored thru a penalty
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 5:39pm On May 10, 2017
Danycrusoe:
a big fans violence may happen at the Pantami stadium in Gombe. Fans are already threatening Rangers players and officials. when will all this stop? it's now Gombe 1-2 Nwobodo. Gombe scored thru a penalty

2 penalties within ten minutes, I am Not surprised now Oladapo 2-2 Nwobodo in Gombe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:39pm On May 10, 2017
tbaba1234:


For all of the ability of Kante, do you think, he would have been called to the French team if he continued playing in the third division? Cant was only called up when he started performing in the premier league.

Onyedinma could be as talented as you say but unless he is tested at a higher level, we never really know, do we??

An easier case can be made for Aluko, He has been part of the team before and we have an idea of his abilities.

I really can't say much because you haven't taken on board what I have said. We do not need him in the premiership first before we know he is good.

At 17 he was given a MOTM award in the championship, that exceptional for a 17 year old.

It's obvious you haven't seen him play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:46pm On May 10, 2017
komekn:


I really can't say much because you haven't taken on board what u have said. We do not need him in the premiership first before we know he is good.

At 17 he was given a MOTM award in the championship, that exceptional for a 17 year old.

It's obvious you haven't seen him play.

Apart from some highlights, I have not seen him play.

We have seen players shine in the lower leagues but unable to cut it in the premier league.

At this point, i will invite him to an under 20/23 side instead of the national team. There are several players ahead of him in his role. Onyekuru, Samuel Kalu etc are yet to be given a look in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:49pm On May 10, 2017
Danycrusoe:
anyone remember Ademola Rafael, from the 2007 u17 set. he captained the final match against spain due to Haruna lukman's suspension. anyone remember him? he now plays for Abia comets in the NNL. icon4s, goldfish80, Bascovanveli, tbaba1234 and all the elders in the house

I remember him.

Little or nothing was heard of him again after that tourney. He did not even make it to the U20s.

Same with Mathew Edile.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 5:49pm On May 10, 2017
Don't know, there are fillers on twitter that the Referee in the match between Gombe and Rangers had a phone on him while officiating and also received a phone call....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:50pm On May 10, 2017
Gombe got a penalty to equalize... 9ja!!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 5:51pm On May 10, 2017
Icon4s:


I remember him.

Little or nothing was heard of him again after that tourney. He did not even make it to the U20s.

Same with Mathew Edile.

probably didn't do much to improve himself
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:52pm On May 10, 2017
Danycrusoe:


2 penalties within ten minutes, I am Not surprised now Oladapo 2-2 Nwobodo in Gombe

No fairness in the NPFL at all.

Apart from the opposing 11 players, you have to face the fans and officials. Terrible is the least word to say.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 5:52pm On May 10, 2017
tbaba1234:
Gombe got a penalty to equalize... 9ja!!!!

or u mean to lead?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:53pm On May 10, 2017
Danycrusoe:

probably didn't do much to improve himself
Just like a host of others: Peaked at U17!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:53pm On May 10, 2017
I personally will give special consideration to players not born in Nigeria who are showing lots of promise for obvious reasons.. Let me state it here. Should they become a hot property and England wants them, it will be hard for Nigeria to win the war. It's easier to win them over when they had met the SE family. b
tbaba1234:


Apart from some highlights, I have not seen him play.

We have seen players shine in the lower leagues but unable to cut it in the premier league.

At this point, i will invite him to an under 20/23 side instead of the national team. There are several players ahead of him in his role. Onyekuru, Samuel Kalu etc are yet to be given a look in.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 5:54pm On May 10, 2017
Icon4s:


No fairness in the NPFL at all.

Apart from the opposing 11 players, you have to face the fans and officials. Terrible is the least word to say.

don't know if banning fans from all stadia in the NPFL for a whole season will do enough good in curbing fans violence
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:55pm On May 10, 2017
Danycrusoe:
Don't know, there are fillers on twitter that the Referee in the match between Gombe and Rangers had a phone on him while officiating and also received a phone call....

Nonsense. Worst still now, no more TV coverage so it is free for all mago-mago now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:56pm On May 10, 2017
Danycrusoe:


or u mean to lead?

It is still 2:2 according to the LMC twitter page.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:57pm On May 10, 2017
Danycrusoe:


don't know if banning fans from all stadia in the NPFL for a whole season will do enough good in curbing fans violence

If the fans are banned what will now add glamour to the games?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:00pm On May 10, 2017
Joebie:
I personally will give special consideration to players not born in Nigeria who are showing lots of promise for obvious reasons.. Let me state it here. Should they become a hot property and England wants them, it will be hard for Nigeria to win the war. It's easier to win them over when they had met the SE family. b

How many can you invite at a time? Except we want to be parading different starting 11s for every game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:01pm On May 10, 2017
Need I bold "players showing lots of promise"?

And if you read carefully you will know that i'm implying for the purpose of camping not necessarily changing our starting 11.. Read my post again, slowly and carefully lol

Icon4s:


How many can you invite at a time? Except we want to be parading different starting 11s for every game.

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