LadunaI:


Lolz... that's another realm entirely. Seconded. Lols

The sheik in the video mentioned all the HUTI's. Immediately i remember ikupakuti

If he watches the entire video, i am sure he understands it

ikupakuti:


You are scaring me



You mean the khalwa conditions ? E be like say you go give me this “woman“ code o, I want a taste of her too, only you just they enjoy alone I‘m also partially connected to MARY too, may the almighty help me bless her existence (mother of my ruh) HAIL MARY! BLESSED !

#Scaring? That shouldn't be. Algorithms and Data structure & architecture are the basic and very first important to know, which I pretty much believed you're familiar with with already. The rest is just syntax which can easily come handy once you take up a project.

#Yes! partly truth.

# Which code again? Lolz. No be the code you dish out here, I dey experimented? Sort of "awakening reminders" though.

# Excellent! That is perhaps one nice connection. For, prophet (saw) said many men have reach perfection but only in case of two women MARY and ASIYAH (may Allah be please with them both). Such is their enviable position! May be you tell us more about her.

Empiree:
The sheik in the video mentioned all the HUTI's. Immediately i remember ikupakuti

If he watches the entire video, i am sure he understands it

Of course yes. In fact he need NOT to watch the video to understand those realms. That's has been topic am been curious about earlier in this thread. And he has DONE amazing job in that regard from his various posts and responses.

Perhaps he has passed thru those realms once if not many times with his understanding of their nature and intricacies. I still take some times to go back and re read them to pick new insight.

I'm always thrilled with that five DIVINE platforms (consciousness) concept, or perhaps now 'six' based on your suggestion. Lolz

LadunaI:


Of course yes. In fact he need NOT to watch the video to understand those realms. That's has been topic am been curious about earlier in this thread. And he has DONE amazing job in that regard from his various posts and responses.

Perhaps he has passed thru those realms once if not many times with his understanding of their nature and intricacies. I still take some times to go back and re read them to pick new insight.

I'm always thrilled with that five DIVINE platforms (consciousness) concept, or perhaps now 'six' based on your suggestion. Lolz

most definitely. Or he lives very close with someone who passed through these. If one is able to pass thru the devils in his journey of tassawuf, the rest is bright. Just like Sheikh Abdul Jilani(ra) passed thru shaytan, my shekh did. He narrated his experinces to me in his days when jinns used to bother him. Stole his money, defecated in his prayer room, appeared in form of a woman to seduce him. When he didnt fall for their antics they picked him up from his prayer mat to the ceiling and dropped him several times. He had to run out

emekaRaj:


I understand well, but u dnt hav to call names. Just hit the point.

I hav read about sufi, the ideology, purity, tasawuf, tawakal etc. My common sense tells me it's OK. But the fact is their. Some of them use their power to perform magic. Wether they counted among sufist is another argument.

U never ansa my, u be sufiyanu?

U never

Your answer is on page 1 of this thread, i didnt hide who i‘m.

You cant use mystical powers gotten through prayers to perform magic, thats a contradiction. Musa (as) did not performed magic the magicians did, Q20:66-70 even though the ensuing result looks the same to the ordinary eyes.

Tlake:

some one in his 40s wont have dis much time online bro with family, i know for sure mr kuti is in mid 30s upward he must v grown up amongst strong tijaniyahs that paved way for him


sufi guys explored islam beyond normal muslim understanding of d religion, which as actually helped us whether we like it or not but wen you keep exploring you start learning and understanding tins not written even in quran and if your Iman is nt good b4 such explorations you ll lose than iman to your new findings because u begin to realise there's lot more beyond quran and hadiths..and thats the beginning of d prob we have now...my opinion

what if my job requires being connected to the internet most of the time ? something tells me @LadunaI might be right about my age

ikupakuti:


Your answer is on page 1 of this thread, i didnt hide who i‘m.

You cant use mystical powers gotten through prayers to perform magic, thats a contradiction. Musa (as) did not performed magic the magicians did, Q20:66-70 even though the ensuing result looks the same to the ordinary eyes.

Exactly. Onikijipa said same thing

Empiree:
The sheik in the video mentioned all the HUTI's. Immediately i remember ikupakuti

If he watches the entire video, i am sure he understands it

LadunaI:


Lolz... that's another realm entirely. Seconded. Lols

Empiree:
I like the first 5 mins of this clip


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPLdXYnn7Uc

I think i know where or how ikupakuti got his moniker from. You notice he talks about:

LAHU TI

JABARU TI

MALAKU TI

HAHU TI

NASU TI

IKUPAKU TI

Abeg o the a.k.a iku-pa-kitu is actually in response to fela death who claimed to have pocketed death, calling himself “ani-iku-lapo kuti“

So when he finally died, i said iku (death) pa (finally killed) kuti (someone who thinks hes above death).

So its got nothing to do with Gods -HUTIs o my hand no dey o

Empiree:
most definitely. Or he lives very close with someone who passed through these. If one is able to pass thru the devils in his journey of tassawuf, the rest is bright. Just like Sheikh Abdul Jilani(ra) passed thru shaytan, my shekh did. He narrated his experinces to me in his days when jinns used to bother him. Stole his money, dedicated in his prayer room, appeared in form of a woman to seduce him. When he didnt fall for their antics they picked in up from his prayer mat to the ceiling and dropped him several times. He had ro run out

I feel for him those creatures can be wicked sometimes. They have led many astray with such antics. But if you are well grounded in fiqh, they cant do nothing. Thats why its not advisable for someone whos not grounded in deen to venture into wilayya. Part of whats causing the present madness we are wittnessing today among the supposed sufis.

ikupakuti:


Abeg o the a.k.a iku-pa-kitu is actually in response to fela death who claimed to have pocketed death, calling himself “ani-iku-lapo kuti“

So when he finally died, i said iku (death) pa (finally killed) kuti (someone who thinks hes above death).

So its got nothing to do with Gods -HUTIs o my hand no dey o

Lol. ..I have always thought about "death no feel kill am" not knowing 'kuti' referred to Fela

LadunaI:


#Scaring? That shouldn't be. Algorithms and Data structure & architecture are the basic and very first important to know, which I pretty much believed you're familiar with with already.

I actually had a stint with java & C but its been long.

# Which code again? Lolz. No be the code you dish out here, I dey experimented? Sort of "awakening reminders" though.

Hmmmmm I hear you o

# Excellent! That is perhaps one nice connection. For, prophet (saw) said many men have reach perfection but only in case of two women MARY and ASIYAH (may Allah be please with them both). Such is their enviable position! May be you tell us more about her.

Sure! Later I‘ll recount my encounter with her, got an ISM through her, though i used to know the ISM before.

mean she looks exactly lik the mary we see in pictures cc mr kuti

Now I'm confused and I have a question.
People claiming they see Mary and one old woman, aren't these the same as apparitions of saints that catholics claim they see?
An example is The Our Lady of Fatima apparition(Mary), Statues of saints weeping e.t.c.
How sure are we that it is not the qarins(jinns) playing their usual tricks, I believe once a person is dead he is dead according to a narration I read.
Only the prophets are safe from their forms being taken by jinns.
I don't really know anything, I am just a seeker of knowledge asking questions.

ikupakuti:


Your answer is on page 1 of this thread, i didnt hide who i‘m.

You cant use mystical powers gotten through prayers to perform magic, thats a contradiction. Musa (as) did not performed magic the magicians did, Q20:66-70 even though the ensuing result looks the same to the ordinary eyes.

I knw who are now? Am just suprise how u r defendin them so hard, that's why I ask, we should all defend our self, nt who we dnt knw wat they hav on their cupboard.

And I wasnt even talking about, sufi or wahabbis, I was talking about bida'a and I made it clear it's my opinion and experience I think empiree understand perfectly well d point am trying to make.

So it's nt a big deal, u knw very well am nt a team BIDA'A. but i have learnt to always look at tins from both angles

Tnx for translation,
O boy.... That huthuba long oo, d one I sent to u long like dat

It think I should share this, some one might benefit from it. Lols I usually like it when sirri comes with anecdotes.

Culled from KUNASH of al-maktoom (rta).

SOME VIRTUES OF THE VERSE OF CONCERN

He said:-

“ I witnessed by virtue of spiritual insight some benefits of the verse of concern , some I got in this realm of mundane conciousness & others in celestial realms, so I‘ve decided to relay 50 of them thereof, for a liberary would not suffice if I‘m to divulge all I‘ve got on this glorious verse.

1- I saw a man walking through the market along with other men & I saw 14 angels with him, so I asked one of the angels why were they with him ? He told me that man recites the verse of concern daily, morning & evening, so God delegated us to sheild him & guide him.

So, I approached this man & saluted him & he responded. I said “my master, I‘ll like to meet you“ he said “fine“.

I said “if you may, I‘ll like you to come with me to my dwelling or I go with you to yours“. Then he said he‘ll like me to come with him to his. So we went, he was so happy having me arround, he brought me some food, I said to him “I wont touch your food until you promise to be honest with me“. He said by God I shall be honest with you. Then I said to him “do you have with you a litany from the glorious Quran?“ he replied in the affirmative. So, I asked him what is it ? He said he does recite the verse of concern daily, morning & evening exactly as the angel told you. I said “you did well but dont be careless with it“. He said to me “its the source of my wealth, so why would I be careless with it when I found the favour of God through its blessings ?“ I said to him, pray tell me what you got about it.

He said to me that, when he started reciting it, @ the turn of the year all his wealth disappeared & he remained a poor man. So, he complained to someone about his miserable state, the fellow asked him what he thought the cause was ? ....to be cont‘d

Tlake:
mean she looks exactly lik the mary we see in pictures
cc mr kuti

we all know that the OYINBO mary we see in pictures is only a work of imagination now haba! even the devil we see in pictures is fake

LadunaI:
The issue of bid'a is a very sensitive and often ignorantly conceived by many. What I have discovered is that many don't known what that really was in actual sense of words.

Truly, literary bid'a dennotes something that is new sort of , that don't have any precedence whatsoever in the sunnah.

The classification of of Hadrath Umar(ra) of Solat Tarawih as bid'a hassana comes to mind. Even, despite the fact that Holy Prophet (saw) observed it st leat for three days before abandoning it because of fearing that it might be made compulsory on his ummah. Even, our contemporary bid'a crooner will vehemently dispute Hadrath Umar(ra) assertion that tarawih is bid'a citing the fact that holy prophet (saw) observed it before. My question is, who is better and sound in the matter of knowledge of the deen; they or the Hadrath Umar(ra).

However, there is NO doubt, TASSAWUF is the region where lots of these things are been perpetrated so to say in the name of hidden knowledge
Whereas they playing into Satan pranks. Knowledge of the Quran and Sunnah are the sure ways to combat this.

There many things sahaba did that is NOT directly or exactly practiced by holy prophet (saw). Like Bilal(ra) which normally performed many rakat after ablution. Or like a sahaba always reciting Surat hiklas at the end of each rakat. Imagine such things has not happened before and one is practising it. The "puritans'" would be the first to condemn you to hell base on their definition of bid'a. Would they be right by such assessment?

That's is why as Muslims we must constantly check and see that our practice is in tandem with sunnah of holy prophet(saw) while not been too rigid Nor to loose in it. Middle path is always the best!

Aisha(ra) said, she heard the holy prophet (saw) saying " anybody that introduce anything in the matter of our deen will have it rejected", not as kufr as croobers would call it today.

But, seriously, TASSAWUF as been corrupted so much as Islam in general has been polluted. In fact it will take grace of Allah, for anybody to accept Islam today, becos of our conduct.

Brothers! pls learn the sunnah, abstain all from what prophet as forbidden, and do as much as possible to us within our power to do what he has commanded us to do.

This is all am saying, we must recognize it an condemn it. That's all

Empiree:
most definitely. Or he lives very close with someone who passed through these. If one is able to pass thru the devils in his journey of tassawuf, the rest is bright. Just like Sheikh Abdul Jilani(ra) passed thru shaytan, my shekh did. He narrated his experinces to me in his days when jinns used to bother him. Stole his money, dedicated in his prayer room, appeared in form of a woman to seduce him. When he didnt fall for their antics they picked in up from his prayer mat to the ceiling and dropped him several times. He had ro run out

Why did he give them d freedom like dat, he should hav catch them an burn them to death

Raintaker:
Now I'm confused and I have a question.
People claiming they see Mary and one old woman, aren't these the same as apparitions of saints that catholics claim they see?
An example is The Our Lady of Fatima apparition(Mary), Statues of saints weeping e.t.c.
How sure are we that it is not the qarins(jinns) playing their usual tricks, I believe once a person is dead he is dead according to a narration I read.
Only the prophets are safe from their forms being taken by jinns.
I don't really know anything, I am just a seeker of knowledge asking questions.

choi! See jamb question! @LadunaI @empire @emekaRaj epp me o. How I wan take ansa this question now ?

Let me ask you, lets say we are still in the era of prophethood & Someone claimed God sent him meaning you are to follow him, how are you going to ascertain he‘s not an impostor ? Try & answer this with your knowledge of deen.

ikupakuti:


what if my job requires being connected to the internet most of the time ? something tells me @LadunaI might be right about my age

Leave dis man, even 50 yrs sef small na 60s.
Even empiree sef dey follow am for age

emekaRaj:


Leave dis man, even 50 yrs sef small na 60s.
Even empiree sef dey follow am for age

And how you take know @em.pires age ? Atleast now we know say your mate no dey dis forum old man.

ikupakuti:


choi! See jamb question! @LadunaI @empire @emekaRaj epp me o. How I wan take ansa this question now ?

Let me ask you, lets say we are still in the era of prophethood & Someone claimed God sent him meaning you are to follow him, how are you going to ascertain he‘s not an impostor ? Try & answer this with your knowledge of deen.

Not Jamb Question bro, I actually asked because I don't know.

ikupakuti:
It think I should share this, some one might benefit from it. Lols I usually like it when sirri comes with anecdotes.

Culled from KUNASH of al-maktoom (rta).

SOME VIRTUES OF THE VERSE OF CONCERN

He said:-

“ I witnessed by virtue of spiritual insight some benefits of the verse of concern , some I got in this realm of mundane conciousness & others in celestial realms, so I‘ve decided to relay 50 of them thereof, for a liberary would not suffice if I‘m to divulge all I‘ve got on this glorious verse.

1- I saw a man walking through the market along with other men & I saw 14 angels with him, so I asked one of the angels why were they with him ? He told me that man recites the verse of concern daily, morning & evening, so God delegated us to sheild him & guide him.

So, I approached this man & saluted him & he responded. I said “my master, I‘ll like to meet you“ he said “fine“.

I said “if you may, I‘ll like you to come with me to my dwelling or I go with you to yours“. Then he said he‘ll like me to come with him to his. So we went, he was so happy having me arround, he brought me some food, I said to him “I wont touch your food until you promise to be honest with me“. He said by God I shall be honest with you. Then I said to him “do you have with you a litany from the glorious Quran?“ he replied in the affirmative. So, I asked him what is it ? He said he does recite the verse of concern daily, morning & evening exactly as the angel told you. I said “you did well but dont be careless with it“. He said to me “its the source of my wealth, so why would I be careless with it when I found the favour of God through its blessings ?“ I said to him, pray tell me what you got about it.

He said to me that, when he started reciting it, @ the turn of the year all his wealth disappeared & he remained a poor man. So, he complained to someone about his miserable state, the fellow asked him what he thought the cause was ? ....to be cont‘d

Mmmmm this is the type am interested in, VERSE OF CONCERN

How did he knw is angel tho, because according to empiree, we can't see angel, if we do our death is close

emekaRaj:


Mmmmm this is the type am interested in, VERSE OF CONCERN

How did he knw is angel tho, because according to empiree, we can't see angel, if we do our death is close

He said we cant se angels in their true form in this realm (thats they cant appear here in their true form) unless the ruh is about or has exited the body. The holy prophet (saw) & others saw them but not in their original form & also in their true form but not here. This realm cannot contain their true form. Jibreel (as) had to exit this realm completely in order to show the holy prophet (saw) his true form Q81:23

Raintaker:
Not Jamb Question bro, I actually asked because I don't know.

I know. Ok answer that Q and we‘ll take it from there.

ikupakuti:


choi! See jamb question! @LadunaI @empire @emekaRaj epp me o. How I wan take ansa this question now ?

Let me ask you, lets say we are still in the era of prophethood & Someone claimed God sent him meaning you are to follow him, how are you going to ascertain he‘s not an impostor ? Try & answer this with your knowledge of deen.

Not Jamb Question bro, I actually asked because I don't know.
Back to your question, assuming I've heard about a previous messenger from God's message and I believed in it, I'll simply compare the new message with the previous; and if they are in tandem I'll gladly accept the new harbinger as a prophet of Allah and if they are in discordance I'll reject the new messenger and his message.
Just the way Allah commanded the Jews to verify the oneness of Allah's message in their scriptures.
Thank you.
As I said I am just a seeker of knowledge and I don't want to be confused.

Raintaker:
Now I'm confused and I have a question.
People claiming they see Mary and one old woman, aren't these the same as apparitions of saints that catholics claim they see?
An example is The Our Lady of Fatima apparition(Mary), Statues of saints weeping e.t.c.
How sure are we that it is not the qarins(jinns) playing their usual tricks, I believe once a person is dead he is dead according to a narration I read.
Only the prophets are safe from their forms being taken by jinns.
I don't really know anything, I am just a seeker of knowledge asking questions.

This is actually a good question, e pass jamb na msc questions.

Seriously tho this is one question I hav been pondering, an me an Raintaker will like some answers so we can learn.

Am the kind of person dat like to say mind an how feel about issues, To be honest, I dnt get it with all this pple that said they hav seen this and dat. Some said they hav seen niyyas, sahabas, Maryam, etc. Is it possible, even if it is, is it good, even if it's good, how do we knw we nt been deceive, by the chief, master of all deceivers.

ikupakuti:


we all know that the OYINBO mary we see in pictures is only a work of imagination now haba! even the devil we see in pictures is fake

I never see Mary, but for the devil dem try for the picture, them get am small

ikupakuti:


Q81:23

Is dis d verse. Ok then he Muhammad SAW saw Jibril in the clear horizon, toward the east

Continue d story now, it's interesting

Raintaker:

Not Jamb Question bro, I actually asked because I don't know.
Back to your question, assuming I've heard about a previous messenger from God's message and I believed in it, I'll simply compare the new message with the previous; and if they are in tandem I'll gladly accept the new harbinger as a prophet of Allah and if they are in discordance I'll reject the new messenger and his message.
Just the way Allah commanded the Jews to verify the oneness of Allah's message in their scriptures.
Thank you.
As I said I am just a seeker of knowledge and I don't want to be confused.

Good! But thats just a phase of it. What if you are not a kitaby like the jews ? What if there is no former scripture to compare with ? What if the former scripture is imitated ? You know how the chinese imitate originals now ? you know, a serious impostor would do a very good home work before making a declearation.

emekaRaj:


Is dis d verse. Ok then he Muhammad SAW saw Jibril in the clear horizon, toward the east

Continue d story now, it's interesting

Yeah thats the verse. The stories are much, I‘ll be doing the translations little by little & then update later.

ikupakuti:


Good! But thats just a phase of it. What if you are not a kitaby like the jews ? What if there is no former scripture to compare with ? What if the former scripture is imitated ? You know how the chinese imitate originals now ? you know, a serious impostor would do a very good home work before making a declearation.

Personally, I am someone that asks a lot of questions and I barely believe in claims without evidence, I'll ask for clear evidence from the claimant and I'll also pray to Allah to show me an evidence just like Zakariyah.
If Allah wills, he will show me an evidence and I'll believe the new prophet, if Allah wills he won't show me any evidence and I will never believe the new claimant.
The second stance is due to my personal nature of being very doubtful.