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Raintaker:


The second stance is due to my personal nature of being very doubtful.

Do u knw that been a very doubtful person is one of the characters Allah subhanawataala hates. It's in the Quran, I hav forgotten the verse

emekaRaj:


Do u knw that been a very doubtful person is one of the characters Allah subhanawataala hates. It's in the Quran, I hav forgotten the verse

No, I didn't know about that.
But my being doubtful is something that can solid evidence can easily overcome.
Looks like a contrast, but it's not.

emekaRaj:
This are the real bida'a team, threatening pple up and down,




My reply.
The way una dey threaten Muslims up an down is tantamount to liein against the prophet SAW sef. because theres no where in ahadith or Quran the said. "Quote the narrator of the hadeeth, as well as it's source and authenticity, unless of course if it's from either Saheeh al-Bukhaaree or Muslim.
"

lol

ikupakuti:


we all know that the OYINBO mary we see in pictures is only a work of imagination now haba! even the devil we see in pictures is fake

can you describe the one u saw n how u knew it was her. ..and the ISM too if you dont mind

Tlake:


can you describe the one u saw n how u knew it was her. ..and the ISM too if you dont mind

Lols @ the one you saw, how many of her do we have?

It was actually in a dream. Now as @Raintaker said how do you know its not a prank from the devil ? This got me thinking So, here I‘ll want us all to look @ the issue of dreams.

1- whats the difference between the dream of a believer & a non-believer ? Because the dream of nabiy yusuf (as) came to pass, that of the prisoners & king who are unbelievers also came to pass, they were all accurate.

2- have you ever had a dream that you believe to be true ? What gave you the assurance ?

3- the prophet Ibrahim (as) had a dream where he saw him self slaughtering his son. Now the scriptures are all against human sacrifice, why did he still went ahead with it ? He didnt say to his son “God said I should sacrifice you but said “I saw my self slaughtering you, what do you say ?“ but when the son responded “do what you are ordered“ , why didnt they take it as a bad dream since its against the scripture ? Or is it that the prophets (as) dont have fake dreams ? even when its clearly anti-scripture ?

4- can the devil disguise as a prophet, angel, walliyy in order to mislead ? How do we ascertain?

5- imam ibn hanbal (ra) dreamt of God who told him the best deed to get close to him is his words, now how was he sure who he saw was actually God ?
What was his size ? What colour ? in what form ? since the Quran says nothing is like unto him. As knowledgeble as he was in deen/fiqh how come “disregarded“ & went on to believed he actually saw God & not the devil in disguise ?

I want us all to solve these intricases of dream together, coz I smell controversy

Cc: @emekaRaj @empiree @LadunaI @Tlake @Jamo90 @Raintaker @Hkana @the rest that I cant recall.

ikupakuti:


Lols @ the one you saw, how many of her do we have?

It was actually in a dream. Now as @Raintaker said how do you know its not a prank from the devil ? This got me thinking So, here I‘ll want us all to look @ the issue of dreams.

1- whats the difference between the dream of a believer & a non-believer ? Because the dream of nabiy yusuf (as) came to pass, that of the prisoners & king who are unbelievers also came to pass, they were all accurate.

2- have you ever had a dream that you believe to be true ? What gave you the assurance ?

3- the prophet Ibrahim (as) had a dream where he saw him self slaughtering his son. Now the scriptures are all against human sacrifice, why did he still went ahead with it ? He didnt say to his son “God said I should sacrifice you but said “I saw my self slaughtering you, what do you say ?“ but when the son responded “do what you are ordered“ , why didnt they take it as a bad dream since its against the scripture ? Or is it that the prophets (as) dont have fake dreams ? even when its clearly anti-scripture ?

4- can the devil disguise as a prophet, angel, walliyy in order to mislead ? How do we ascertain?

5- imam ibn hanbal (ra) dreamt of God who told him the best deed to get close to him is his words, now how was he sure who he saw was actually God ?
What was his size ? What colour ? in what form ? since the Quran says nothing is like unto him. As knowledgeble as he was in deen/fiqh how come “disregarded“ & went on to believed he actually saw God & not the devil in disguise ?

I want us all to solve these intricases of dream together, coz I smell controversy

Cc: @emekaRaj @empiree @LadunaI @Tlake @Jamo90 @Raintaker @Hkana @the rest that I cant recall.

This one pass me, make I sit down dey watch.

emekaRaj:


Why did he give them d freedom like dat, he should hav catch them an burn them to death

When he gained confidence and full blown tassawuf, he would catch them and detain them for sometime (imprison). They cried "Alhaji please please please we not gonna disturb you anymore. We will be your friends bla bla bla". Including a yoruba jinn who called herself "iyalode". She said she came around bcus she likes the environment. That she doesnt disturb him or his children. He released them after teaching them lesson and warned them there presence is not needed.

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1...God can reveal a dream to a believer as a warning or signs of past or future events., also as glad tidings to him or her so as to keep firm in his deen

A disbeliever can also dream as a warning to him or her of future events to come lik in d case of pharaoh wen he dreamt of musa

2...personally b4 i dont v spiritual dreams just normal daily thoughts but since i began to restructure my ways back to islam and engaging in dhikr i gt dreams that consoles me of my predicaments n solutions to come so m certain..

3...prophet ibr had d ilm,taqwa to understand d difference.

4..God beestowed sm crazy power to dix guy but surely he cant disguise as prophet, God no gv am dat 1 or probably has any righeous servant of allah certified by him but d best way to know for sure is if d interpretation of d dream advises against d rules of Allah and his friend

5...For the imam ,the dream he had advised him to adhere to the words of Allah dat cant be devil he wont gv u a good advice ,as for seeing God ..dat 1 pass me but Allah is merciful and can sometimes do unimaginable things for his loved servants.
but in paradise we ll only see God behind a veil not even completely. ..this one tough

Marriage: Half of Faith
Hadith literature testifies that the sacred institution of marriage fulfills half of a person’s faith, and consequently the most devout of worshippers cannot reach perfection of faith unless he enters the rites of marriage and fulfills the proper rights due his wife. The young man or woman who reaches a suitable age of marriage and remains unmarried has been referred to as a miser [miskeen ]. This is because such people are to be pitied because in remaining unmarried they are unable to benefit from the tremendous blessings associated with this special sunnah.

@emekaRaj

Your no 1 just they make me laugh for here So sharia also applies in dreamland ? Maybe when next you kill someone in dream, we‘ll execute you when you wake up as par sharia, while the person you “killed“ lives on. Your loss

No. 3- hmmm Gods way of communicating sharia & anti-sharia @ the same time hmmm no. 4- so was it God or the holy prophet (saw) that said its only him cannot be impersonated ? No. 5- better go & be doing istigfar, so God that protected the holy prophet (saw) from being impersonated by the devil cannot protect himself ? And you so sure its the devil ? This is someone who cramed over 1 million hadiths o & founded a school of jurisprudence o.

Sensei, I saw where you mentioned me please tell me you were just teasing me cos even me I have questions....

Concerning what you asked rain.taker, I think one way to unmask an impostor is to ask him for a sign/miracle.

@Tlake

No. 3 but how are going to know incase it happened us ? no. 4 we all can agree with this no. 5 the devil can give good advice o, he can do anything to win your trust, remember that hadith where he appeared to that sahaba telling him to recite kursiyyu etc, when the later told the holy prophet (saw) he said, thats ibliss, what he said is true but hes a liar ! He wanted to gain your trust becareful with him. Remember ?

Hkana:
Sensei, I saw where you mentioned me please tell me you were just teasing me cos even me I have questions....

Concerning what you asked rain.taker, I think one way to unmask an impostor is to ask him for a sign/miracle.

No teasing o we all have Question o, crazy ones sef, you go fear some Questions

But shey you know say, ibliss is the master juggler, miracle ? Na you go tire

@empiree

Lols @ iyalode wey like enviroment them come tapp yasin current ni, free service, why she no go like enviroment wey free energy dey

ikupakuti:


No teasing o we all have Quetion o, crazy ones sef, you go fear some Question

But shey you know say, ibliss is the master juggler, miracle ? Na you go tire

Lol. I thought about that too... Illusions and the likes.

Abeg, epp me

That article you're sharing on verse of concern piqued my interest. Do share more as we're waiting.
PS: what's the verse of concern?

....VERSE OF CONCERN Cont‘d

“ what sent you into penury ? He said the only thing he could decipher is that through out this year he has being reciting the verse of concern 7x morning & evening. The man said what ? Leave it! For it protect against haram. Your wealth is haram, whats in peoples hand is also unclean, halal is very scarce. You‘ll continue sinking into penury if you continue. The man replied that the fellow just increase his love for that verse as he has no desire to keep consuming haram. So he remained in such poor state of hunger for another year, one day his children were crying due to hunger & he couldnt bare it any longer, he said to his wife “try & distract the kids let me go & find something for them & she replied “by the blessing of God“.

So he set out, took a bath, performed ablution & entered a mosque & did 2 rakaht before asr & then sat down to recite the verse 1000 times, it was mid night before he could finish up. Whenever its time for prayer he suspends his zikr & performed jamhi & then cont‘d. Nobody said nothing to him, after isha the custodian asked him “are you sleeping over here“ he made a yes sign with his head. When he finished @ midnight he did his witr & slept. In his dream he saw the holy prophet (saw) who said to him “go to so & so, say to him muhammad the son of abdullah extends his salutations, he said you should give me 1000 dinar & that the insignia between you & him is this & that“. He got up from sleep immediately thanking God, as he made to dash out, he met a “man“ @ the entrance of the locked door with food basket for him, he quickly ate some, remembering his kids, he collected the basket & made to go, the “man“ said hey! Take your fill coz i‘ve also taken some to your kids....to be cont‘d i don tire

Hkana:


Lol. I thought about that too... Illusions and the likes.

Abeg, epp me

That article you're sharing on verse of concern piqued my interest. Do share more as we're waiting.
PS: what's the verse of concern?

The last two verses of chapter 9 a.k.a LAQAD JA‘A KUM

I guess you are trying to assess our brain. Let's see

ikupakuti:


So, here I‘ll want us all to look @ the issue of dreams.

1- whats the difference between the dream of a believer & a non-believer ? Because the dream of nabiy yusuf (as) came to pass, that of the prisoners & king who are unbelievers also came to pass, they were all accurate.

in my opinion, to certain extent, dreams of non-believers may also be truthful. True dreams and true visions are not confined to muslims only. Wife of Obafemi Awolowo had a dream or vision that her in law, VP Yemi Osinbajo would lead Nigeria in the future. matter of fact she actually said she would be nigerian president. That almost came through when fake news broke out that Buhari passed in London. Now this doesnt mean he may presido actually. I believe her dream has come to pass even though Yemi ius not official president of the country.

Also, it is said that a kafir woman had dream that God inspired her that Kaaba should be covered with black clothe. I dont have actual hadith for this.

2- have you ever had a dream that you believe to be true ? What gave you the assurance ?

Well, i usually dont. But people close to me, if they have dreams about me or around me usually come through. For instance, in 2000, i was in ilorin (college) while my sister was in lagos. She had a dream that i passed away. She quickly made a move with tears in her eyes to papa to report the incident. So, there comes demon in human disguise doing her things behind my back without me knowing (after investigation). And i was actually heedless of the sign bcus i met old woman in ilorin late night on my way to friend's house. She told me to come close to her but i refused. She said you have a "mark" on your forehead but i snubbed her. The woman too doesnt appear to be muslim. Let's leave this here. In late 2012, a friend of mine who is Hindu, had two dreams about me. Good and bad simultaneously. His bad dream was i was spreading hot pepper on kitchen table and my eyes was red and i looked scared. His father who is christian-hindu said this is bad sign of trouble. Both came to pass shortly later. But you know empireee now, i dont waste no time. Quickly embarked on dua. And by the time the dream came to passed, it subsided

3- the prophet Ibrahim (as) had a dream where he saw him self slaughtering his son. Now the scriptures are all against human sacrifice, why did he still went ahead with it ? He didnt say to his son “God said I should sacrifice you but said “I saw my self slaughtering you, what do you say ?“ but when the son responded “do what you are ordered“ , why didnt they take it as a bad dream since its against the scripture ? Or is it that the prophets (as) dont have fake dreams ? even when its clearly anti-scripture ?

You dont have to agree with me on this. This incident of nabi Ibrahim(as) was symbolism. And there is a lesson to learn from it. The lesson is total submission to Allah without questioning. It is very hard. Bcus nabi(as) passed this test and trials was the reason he became Khalil-Allah (Friend of God). Which means for someone to be Allah's friend, you gonna have to go through tests and trials. no shortcuts.

So here is what his dream meant. but you dont have to accept it. The dream is sending message to Arabs in particular for their pending destruction in akhir zaman. We read in ahadith:

#Allah's Messenger (S+) said, "One of the signs of the approach of the Last Hour will be the destruction of the Arabs."



#"There will be civil strife which will wipe out the Arabs, and their slain will go to Hell. During it the tongue will be more severe than blows of the sword."


#"The people will flee from the Dajjaal (the Anti- Christ) till they will take shelter in the mountains." Umm Sharik said that she asked: "Where will be the Arabs at this time?" He answered: "They will be few (in number)."


Now this is hadith i am really concerned about. Narrated Zainab bint Jahsh:


The Prophet got up from his sleep with a flushed red face and said, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Woe to the Arabs, from the Great evil that is nearly approaching them. Today a gap has been made in the wall of Gog and Magog like this." (Sufyan illustrated by this forming the number 90 or 100 with his fingers.) It was asked, "Shall we be destroyed though there are righteous people among us?" The Prophet said, "Yes, if evil increased."

One doesnt need Phd to figure out evil is increasing or has increased in Arabian peninsular. So nabi ibrahim[as] accepted Allah's offer in his dream to slaughter his son. His acceptance symbolizes Arabs would become sacrificial animals in akhir zaman{last Age}. Are we not seeing that now?. They will be wiped out like plague...said another hadith. So this ileya (eld) rams, sheep, cow, camel we slaughter are mere symbolism. but there is more to it. The real sacrifice is what we are witnessing now and will continue to witness. There is more i can say on this but i might occupy the forum if i dont stop here

4- can the devil disguise as a prophet, angel, walliyy in order to mislead ? How do we ascertain?

Yes, to certain extent. We read experience of Sheikh Jilani's encounter with shaytan disguising as God even if your tassawuf is pure. So the best defense is not to accept anything we see to be true at first until we bold enough to do what Sheikh Jilani did by saying "azubillahi mina shaytani rajim". If indeed that's the devil, he cant stand that. My pap said he encountered similar when i talked to him about it in 2012. When he uttered the phrase, devil disappeared and he continued his journey of tassawuf until the door was open to his ruhaniya. But people who mix or call on others besides Allah and call it "tassawuf" may be completely deceived if they are so careless.

5- imam ibn hanbal (ra) dreamt of God who told him the best deed to get close to him is his words, now how was he sure who he saw was actually God ?
What was his size ? What colour ? in what form ? since the Quran says nothing is like unto him. As knowledgeble as he was in deen/fiqh how come “disregarded“ & went on to believed he actually saw God & not the devil in disguise ? I want us all to solve these intricases of dream together, coz I smell controversy

Cc: @emekaRaj @emp.iree @LadunaI @Tlake @Jamo90 @Raintaker @Hkana @the rest that I cant recall.

This doesnt say Imam actually saw God. We cant see God OBVIOUSLY due to this aya of Quran 7:143 "la ta ro ni"

"And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, "My Lord, show me [Yourself] that I may look at You." [ Allah ] said, "You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me." But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, "Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers."


But we can 'see' God with our 'internal eyes' i:e eyes of the heart not our material eyes.

ikupakuti:
@empi.ree

Lols @ iyalode wey like enviroment them come tapp yasin current ni, free service, why she no go like enviroment wey free energy dey

Lol. She really wanted to be friend and wanted to be seen too. But she said they have to get a white dish and a virgin lady to look into it. Thats how she could be seen in her true form. I eschewed to say this earlier so ppl dont start to think like

There is nothing wrong with exploration to see what Allah created. So my papa tried it but the virgin lady fainted upon sighting her. The "iyalode" laughed. She is pure yoruba jinn. She was friendly really. If some ppl read this now, they start saying "this is shirk". Rather this is just fun on the side btw them

ikupakuti:
@Tlake

No. 3 but how are going to know incase it happened us ? no. 4 we all can agree with this no. 5 the devil can give good advice o, he can do anything to win your trust, remember that hadith where he appeared to that sahaba telling him to recite kursiyyu etc, when the later told the holy prophet (saw) he said, thats ibliss, what he said is true but hes a liar ! He wanted to gain your trust becareful with him. Remember ?

no 3..in application to us will require a grt understanding of quran, sunnah and sincerity of d person

5..ok ibliss na smart guy n sharp guy. .but on what imam saw m not against d possibility, i was once havin ideas on making supplications to see God lol..but didnt bother on it as na wealth dey my head pass..

i v watched a movie that was based on true event a gravely ill girl got well, told her patent she spoke with God in a white place full of butterflies, told her she bcome healthy
Allah does anything he wishes..

av u had sm similar xperience..

Osheeeey @empiree

You go fear analysis now, you nailed it!

But it wasnt in order to test. Because the issue concerned MARY (as) & as you know the other faith has got interests, there are also issues of sighting “her“ by the catholics. So, I sensed we need to collectively clarified some not so clear matters of dream or else it might turn to something else.

Whatever it is, that might mislead or cause confusion out of misconception, even if it is right, should be avoided.

But Imam hanbal saw with his inner eyes now & not his physical eyes. That verse, nay sharia as a whole only applies in this physical world.

#I trust @ dua & subsidy...no time.

ikupakuti:


The last two verses of chapter 9 a.k.a LAQAD JA‘A KUM

Sub han Allah! I've been thinking about this ayah lately and it's relationship with the Surah "Ilafi" cos I've this recollection of both being recited together.

Empiree:
Lol. She really wanted to be friend and wanted to be seen too. But she said they have to get a white dish and a virgin lady to look into it. Thats how she could be seen in her true form. I eschewed to say this earlier so ppl dont start to think like

There is nothing wrong with exploration to see what Allah created. So my papa tried it but the virgin lady fainted upon sighting her. The "iyalode" laughed. She is pure yoruba jinn. She was friendly really. If some ppl read this now, they start saying "this is shirk". Rather this is just fun on the side btw them

Exactly! Let those who want to be stagnant remain so.

Let them continue “shirking“

Hkana:


Sub han Allah! I've been thinking about this ayah lately and it's relationship with the Surah "Ilafi" cos I've this recollection of both being recited together.

Yeah! They have some identical properties even numerically viz:- huruf of li ilafi is 78, NV of LAQAD JA‘A KUM 8070 which also equals 78 alphabetically by place value.

Empiree:
Lol. She really wanted to be friend and wanted to be seen too. But she said they have to get a white dish and a virgin lady to look into it. Thats how she could be seen in her true form. I eschewed to say this earlier so ppl dont start to think like

There is nothing wrong with exploration to see what Allah created. So my papa tried it but the virgin lady fainted upon sighting her. The "iyalode" laughed. She is pure yoruba jinn. She was friendly really. If some ppl read this now, they start saying "this is shirk". Rather this is just fun on the side btw them

you also spoke with her?

you are not calling her ur God so nt shirk..

me go like see her o she still dey around?

i really wanna see this other creatures of Allah..

who go help me..

Tlake:


you also spoke with her?

No i didnt. Her msg was relaid as it happens. She's crazy. What she did was she stared at the girl closely. She said this after was was asked why she fainted. She said if she was not virgin she would transit (death)

you are not calling her ur God so nt shirk..

U know how they think now. Anythng strange is bida and shirk

me go like see her o she still dey around?

Lol, this was in the 90s

i really wanna see this other creatures of Allah..

who go help me..

you have lots of work to do if you want to

Tlake:


no 3..in application to us will require a grt understanding of quran, sunnah and sincerity of d person

5..ok ibliss na smart guy n sharp guy. .but on what imam saw m not against d possibility, i was once havin ideas on making supplications to see God lol..but didnt bother on it as na wealth dey my head pass..

i v watched a movie that was based on true event a gravely ill girl got well, told her patent she spoke with God in a white place full of butterflies, told her she bcome healthy
Allah does anything he wishes..

av u had sm similar xperience..

Lolz that no.3 you sure say great understanding & quran fit make you dream say you slaughter your own son for dream come wan try am when you wake up ? no be to rebuke devil turn to the other side continue your sleep

Yeah ijma of ulama agreed on the possibility of seeing God in dreamland since its only the physical eyes that cannot capture his countenance. The mumins will see him in JANNAT.

Of course God can suspend any natural law as he pleases. Glory be to him.

Experiences abound.

Assalam alaykum brothers... Keep the good work going.. #ObservationMode...

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