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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:00pm On May 12, 2017
Jay254:
Mombasa

Some of these properties are resort e.g Sultan grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 11:04pm On May 12, 2017
Nowenuse:


grin OMG! What a blow! @Vaxx, lethalbeast, Just30
i dont understand how some people dey reason . nigeria is selling gas . ghana is buying it. and even hold on pay base on business agreement. Ghana is developing its gas pipeline. And that will soon affect nigeria. Ghana is the highest buyer of nigeria gas and that is contributing a lot to nigeria gdp. I think ghana deserve an appreciation here. Mr lekki . Is that the latest. Do you know what is currently going on in accra now. Goverment just recived 250million canadia n dollar to embark on youth empowerment. Create job for the youth and i think that is better than lekki development.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 11:05pm On May 12, 2017
forgiveness:


Impressive! grin

For your information properties along the Kenyan Coast have big market not only from within Kenya, but also from thousands of retirees from around the world who make Kenya their retirement home.

Diani Kenya is full of Germans while Kilifi,Watamu and malindi is full of Italians..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 11:09pm On May 12, 2017
leathalbeast:
then tell that to your brothers. charity begins at home.
What's that supposed to mean. Maybe you should tell your brothers, 7 thousand of them who are being deported by the US as we speak.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:10pm On May 12, 2017
vaxx:
i initially enjoy the conversation but it seems you are changing the wheel.

the hardship ghana face during the late 60.70.80 has never been experience in nigeria before even up tiil date. this was when ghanian were flocking into nigeria in search of greener pasture. so nigeria recession or current calamity should not be used as excuse.

ghana is an average country not a rich country like nigeria .yet it has an intention of world class development. this is the dream of singapore when it started. ghana policy is too strong and effective to be taken out easily. if the policy still continue and nigeria poor policy continue. Am sorry to tell you. Ghana may soon become the next dubai of west africa.

now to the education. i quite agree with you. that some of the nigeria student in ghana are those who could not face the rigorous nigeria selection system. if i may ask what is the importance in making education difficult? no advance country do that.but your assumption is not absolute. many nigerians are here in seach of quality education too. There are good private university in ghana too. Ashesi uni is one ,central uni is another. This university also aim to become the best citadel of learning. Also note in mind that the process of selection may be easy that does not mean the tuttion is not up to standard.

Ghana did not witness or survive a war or decades of visionless military rule. So, Ghana has never had a good reason not to make progress.

Nigeria is rich, yes, but a larger population to cater for will ways make wealth look like poverty.

Ghana has a sole ethnic majority group who control and dominate the entire affairs of the country unlike Nigeria where there are 3 majority groups who are always fighting each other for domination.

Nigeria is also making progress too, we are not sleeping while Ghana is making progress.
Nigeria even has the advantage in development because we are developing many more cities/financial centres at the same time.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:11pm On May 12, 2017
TayserMahiri:



Immediately I saw Forgiveness trying hard to share PH estate photos I knew she had no Idea what she was trying to compete with.

Hahahahahah! grin Besides, I am he. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 11:12pm On May 12, 2017
forgiveness:


Some of these properties are resort e.g Sultan grin

I haven't shared sultan... even though sultan is not a resort but a real estate

Below is Sultans Palace

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:17pm On May 12, 2017
vaxx:
i dont understand how some people dey reason . nigeria is selling gas . ghana is buying it. and even hold on pay base on business agreement. Ghana is developing its gas pipeline. And that will soon affect nigeria. Ghana is the highest buyer of nigeria gas and that is contributing a lot to nigeria gdp. I think ghana deserve an appreciation here. Mr lekki . Is that the latest. Do you know what is currently going on in accra now. Goverment just recived 250million canadia n dollar to embark on youth empowerment. Create job for the youth and i think that is better than lekki development.

Lekki is a free trade zone which will further boost the financial power of the existing financial giant of Africa (Lagos state). Of course it will create jobs too.

Meanwhile, Ajaokuta steel industry which has swallowed hundreds of millions of Naira on it's revival will create hundreds of thousands of Jobs.
Check it out!

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/05/ajaokuta-steel-company-create-500000-employment/

I keep on telling Ghanaians and Kenyans. For almost every single development they are making, Nigeria is making 4. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 11:20pm On May 12, 2017
Nowenuse:


No, it will not! The Lagos state govt is meeting up to the population growth.
Other Nigerian cities are developing too and taking away attention from Lagos.
Tokyo has about 50 million people and it's still just one city.
there is a solid ground for development in tokyo. japan has a positive leader with good mindset. tokyo stock exchange alone is only next to newyork. So there is a big finance access and solid ground to accomodate 50million population. Lagos is not so. Presently lagos population stood toward 22million which is too much on lagos revenue. How much is lagos stock exchange. The business activity in lagos for now can not care for the ballon population. No state in nigeria will overtake lagos in development in the next 100years. Lagos has two advantage which no nigeria state has. Land and,water border. A good means of doing business. But lagos overpopulation now is a big problem.accra also has this advantage.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leathalbeast: 11:20pm On May 12, 2017
9jakool:

What's that supposed to mean. Maybe you should tell your brothers, 7 thousand of them who are being deported by the US as we speak.
yours will soon arrive from Libya.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:21pm On May 12, 2017
TayserMahiri:



grin grin grin

I will come along, just alert me when visiting I'll take a flight.
Are you one of those guys addicted to Kana Tv? I've heard its a phenomenon there these days...
No, I'm not. We don't have Kana TV/Arab dish.
Are you?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 11:21pm On May 12, 2017
Nowenuse:


Lekki is a free trade zone which will further boost the financial power of the existing financial giant of Africa (Lagos state). Of course it will create jobs too.

Meanwhile, Ajaokuta steel industry which has swallowed hundreds of millions of Naira on it's revival will create hundreds of thousands of Jobs.
Check it out!

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/05/ajaokuta-steel-company-create-500000-employment/

I keep on telling Ghanaians and Kenyans. For almost every single development they are making, Nigeria is making 4. grin

Let it be in operation first same to Eco Atlantic..

Never count your chicks before they hatch.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 11:24pm On May 12, 2017
leathalbeast:
yours will soon arrive from Libya.
Which just goes to prove my original point, so I'm done with this petty argument.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 11:25pm On May 12, 2017
Nowenuse:


Lekki is a free trade zone which will further boost the financial power of the existing financial giant of Africa (Lagos state). Of course it will create jobs too.

Meanwhile, Ajaokuta steel industry which has swallowed hundreds of millions of Naira on it's revival will create hundreds of thousands of Jobs.
Check it out!

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/05/ajaokuta-steel-company-create-500000-employment/

I keep on telling Ghanaians and Kenyans. For almost every single development they are making, Nigeria is making 4. grin
i hope you know 250million canadian dollar worh about 240million dollar. that is by far enough to sink the 60million dollar project of lekki free trade soon.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:28pm On May 12, 2017
forgiveness:


Hahahahahah! grin Besides, I am he. grin


Oh man!!! You never was as combative as other naija dudes so I kindoff assumed you were a lady. In fact, when Jay referred you as he I wanted to correct him cheesy grin grin

Plus your name is a bit confusing
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:29pm On May 12, 2017
WIZGUY69:



Dude... We've one serene and beautiful city in Nigeria "Enugu"...
Bring another of Kenya city apart from Nairobi & Mombasa.. let's put them side by side..

CC : Forgiveness cool


NB: Enugu is among top 100 world most resilient cities shocked

Hahahahahah! I don't accept defeat until I am convinced. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 11:29pm On May 12, 2017
forgiveness:


Some of these properties are resort e.g Sultan grin

We call them Holiday Homes

Sultans palace Mombasa

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 11:31pm On May 12, 2017
Nowenuse:


Okay, great.
Then with this, one can clearly ascertain the exact population of Nairobi metropolitan area

I have read about your counties. Why didn't your govt just call them STATES? Cos it's obvious that's what they were somehow meant to function as.
Although, compared to Nigerian states, they seem to have less power and autonomy.

These counties are quite autonomous than the provinces before them.

Rather than the heads of the counties being political appointees, as was the case in the old constitution, it is the people that get to determine who to be the heads (governers) of these counties thru elections.

Rather than the national govt in Nairobi determining for the counties what development project to undertake in these counties as they used to with the provinces, since the national govt then controlled all the funds and the resources, now these counties can determine for themselves what development projects to undertake.

It is the county govts that serve as the stewards of all the resources available within the county rather than the national govt.
They also get to collect taxes. They can enact laws thru their parliaments.
They are incharge of the certain public services such as education and health and public works, (not security, however for that is solely the role of the state govt).
That means they even have appointed ministers, vetted by the county parliament prior to their taking up the roles.

The national govt is not required to meddle in the affairs of these counties unless it is a really a major issue, such as a run away insecurity or a malfunction within the county adminiatration rendering it ineffective as a govt.

By and large, they are quite autonomous, to the extent I have thot they should appropriately have been called "states" instead of counties, for they operate really as miniature countries within a country.
But then again, what is in a name? Would it cease to be a rose were it called a thistle? As long as they serve their envisaged purpose, that of devolving power and developement at the grassrots level' the name does not really matter.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:32pm On May 12, 2017
Hati13:

No, I'm not. We don't have Kana TV/Arab dish.
Are you?


Nuh. Its not in kenya.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:34pm On May 12, 2017
Jay254:


We call them Holiday Homes

Sultans palace Mombasa


Beautiful homes, personally I would never want to live that close to the Ocean. Just in case Tsunami strikes.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:36pm On May 12, 2017
vaxx:
Ni a Najeriya da kuma ba da wani novice daga cikin halin da ake ciki. Idan ka yi tunanin ina yin kuskure nufi shi daga

Ama yafito daram yanzu cewa kai dan Ghana ne. Kana yin karya akan cewa kai dan Naijeriya, saboda me?

Me zai sa mutum yazama mai rashin kunya haka? Gaskiya bai dace maka ba. Ka chanza halinka, kaji?

Kuma karka yi kuskure kace wei don kanayi hausa ko yorubanci hakika kana brge wani. Karye ne. Mun hadu da yawancin yan Ghana da yan kasashen dabam dabam da sun sabu da harsuna kasan Naijeriya.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 11:39pm On May 12, 2017
TayserMahiri:



Beautiful homes, personally I would never want to live that close to the Ocean. Just in case Tsunami strikes.

Ocean view is the best scenery ever... You should never fear death it will always find you when your time is up cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:45pm On May 12, 2017
Hbuyosh:


These counties are quite autonomous than the provinces before them.

Rather than the heads of the counties being political appointees, as was the case in the old constitution, it is the people that get to determine who to be the heads (governers) of these counties thru elections.

Rather than the national govt in Nairobi determining for the counties what development project to undertake in these counties as they used to with the provinces, since the national govt then controlled all the funds and the resources, now these counties can determine for themselves what development projects to undertake.

It is the county govts that serve as the stewards of all the resources available within the county rather than the national govt.
They also get to collect taxes. They can enact laws thru their parliaments.
They are incharge of the certain public services such as education and health and public works, (not security, however for that is solely the role of the state govt).
That means they even have appointed ministers, vetted by the county parliament prior to their taking up the roles.

The national govt is not required to meddle in the affairs of these counties unless it is a really a major issue, such as a run away insecurity or a malfunction within the county adminiatration rendering it ineffective as a govt.

By and large, they are quite autonomous, to the extent I have thot they should appropriately have been called "states" instead of counties, for they operate really as miniature countries within a country.
But then again, what is in a name? Would it cease to be a rose were it called a thistle? As long as they serve their envisaged purpose, that of devolving power and developement at the grassrots level' the name does not really matter.

I see.

Had Kenya done this earlier, the country would have been more urbanized and Nairobi slums wouldn't have been such an issue as it is today.

So are the Kenyan counties now developing their new administrative capital cities?

Are these counties going to build and maitain their own universities and tertiary institutions?

How is the Central govt allocation to these counties like?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 11:46pm On May 12, 2017
Nowenuse:


Ghana did not witness or survive a war or decades of visionless military rule. So, Ghana has never had a good reason not to make progress.

Nigeria is rich, yes, but a larger population to cater for will ways make wealth look like poverty.

Ghana has a sole ethnic majority group who control and dominate the entire affairs of the country unlike Nigeria where there are 3 majority groups who are always fighting each other for domination.

Nigeria is also making progress too, we are not sleeping while Ghana is making progress.
Nigeria even has the advantage in development because we are developing many more cities/financial centres at the same time.
mr man you dont have history? ghana has withness many numerous bloody coup that put the whole nation into ransom. Jerry rawlings is a milliatry dictator. he rule for over 12 years in millitary style. Very active and full of action. 1996 to 1997 was a big issue in ghana. Many jobs were lost . Succide case was rampard. I ask you ?have you ever que for food? it happens in ghana in the late 70 to 80. This is hardship. Even biafra civil war was not terrible to the extent of absence of food.yoruba and hausa are enjoying during the war. it is only the igbos that really feel the hit.

ghana is mutil ethnicity like nigeria. they also deal with tribal issues like nigeria. it is just that they have developed a good mechanism to handle it. they are more than 50 majour tribe in ghana. the volta region of ghana and northern region are badly look upon by ashanties.this is a problem .

the natural resources nigeria posses is enough to cater for the population. country which have less to zero like china is doing well.

ghana is doing well basically than nigeria becuse of good leadership.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:49pm On May 12, 2017
Jay254:


Ocean view is the best scenery ever... You should never fear death it will always find you when your time is up cheesy


Well...I'd rather pay visits.

The views will nonetheless continue to attract retirees and High Net Worth Individuals for the foreseeable future.
What happened to Flavio Briatore's the Billionaires Resort? Is it built already?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 11:53pm On May 12, 2017
TayserMahiri:



Well...I'd rather pay visits.

The views will nonetheless continue to attract retirees and High Net Worth Individuals for the foreseeable future.
What happened to Flavio Briatore's the Billionaires Resort? Is it built already?

Yap it came out so nice... In Malindi

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:54pm On May 12, 2017
naijalander:
Nigeria's youth participation in politics is so disgraceful!

The chairman of Kenya's ruling party, Sakaja Johnson is 32 years old and the leader is South Africa's main opposition party, Mmusi Maimane is 36 years old!

smh

At the federal level, it is very poor.
But at the state level, youths are coming up in Nigeria.

Nigeria does not really operate the same kind of govt with other African countries and that is the ish.

Our federal govt/presidency is seen as the position for the 'King of Kings'.
Most Nigerians/the Nigerian system will never trust a Presidential aspirant who has never been a governor, Federal Speaker, Senate president or Vice president before. Does it not take decades to climb up these political careers?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:57pm On May 12, 2017
Hbuyosh:


Weweeeeee! Umechafua humu kwelikweli!

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.knightfrank.com/resources/global-cities/2016/all/global-cities-the-2016-report.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi026a4yOrTAhUIIcAKHXQeAH4QFggiMAg&usg=AFQjCNENFlY9FfIz-bimJrRUQ1yZQRg39Q

Nairobi and Mombasa are mentioned amongst the cities with hottest proprty markets......
in the world!
No Lagos or Abuja, Port Harcout batter than
Mombasa; duh!

@forgiveness, this for ya.....

http://venturesafrica.com/five-african-countries-that-offer-the-greatest-investment-opportunities-in-real-estate/

Kenya is waaay ahead than Naija also in this one aspect.

Imagine. Cities with no GDP. No official worth!
No wonder the majority of the residents live in slums.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 12:00am On May 13, 2017
Nowenuse:


Ama yafito daram yanzu cewa kai dan Ghana ne. Kana yin karya akan cewa kai dan Naijeriya, saboda me?

Me zai sa mutum yazama mai rashin kunya haka? Gaskiya bai dace maka ba. Ka chanza halinka, kaji?

Kuma karka yi kuskure kace wei don kanayi hausa ko yorubanci hakika kana brge wani. Karye ne. Mun hadu da yawancin yan Ghana da yan kasashen dabam dabam da sun sabu da harsuna kasan Naijeriya.
batu shi ne abin da ban gane ba a nan. Na yi ƙarya ka ce? Amma ba ku yi nuna shi. Ina aka kawo a cikin garin Jos idan dole ne ka sani. Ghana ne na biyu ka
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by DonnieTheGreat: 12:01am On May 13, 2017
ccollins:
what is trade and output with out good standard of living for it's citizens. what is the money when you end up every day at hospital due to many health hazards.. how about the fears of insecurity the average Joe have to face daily in Nigeria from sars, police army. visitors come to Nigeria and see the amount of abuse of rights a typical Nigerian gets in his own fatherland .he can't even insult an ordinary local government chairman in his face as he could risk being tortured and killed ..I know some blind heartless nigerians would reply me and am ready for them... I wonder if most of generated revenue isn't from rich oil we get here in Nigeria as natural resource.remove oil from our resources and let me see how we compare to other African country.. even so called oil, we have to export it to be refined, is that not stupidity.
Kenyans, don't mind them because I know this country well.get your hands on copy of book I sell called trouble with Nigeria by chinua achebe. pm me on Collins4reall@gmail.com so I can buy and send the book to you guys if interested

Yes sir,
Again you are wrong on many counts.

Firstly,
Oil is just 10% of Nigeria's GDP. Nigeria's GDP is roughly $US 500 Billion. so 10% of $US 500 Billion is $US 50 Billion. Now subtract $US500 - $US 50 billion = $US 450 Billion. So you are wrong our Nigeria would still be the greatest/largest Economy in Africa without Oil. grin

Also sir,
i would advice that you educate yourself on the economics of Nigeria. Nigeria is the biggest Economy in Africa!!. There is no debate about that. Even without oil.

I understand that we have some very basic problems like security,Energy,Human rights e.t.c but even America suffers most of those things its normal with big countries.

Is Nigeria perfect = No
Do we have a long way to go = YES

Are we the greatest Country in Africa = YES!!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:06am On May 13, 2017
NairobiWalker:


A federal housing estate is what you're parading as Nigeria's low income area? Duude.

I mentioned festac, Maryland, Apapa, Anthony, Yaba, Surulere, Gbagada, Ilupeju, Iyana-paja e.t.c as dominantly average/low and high middle class areas.
I can always mention more for you to check out.

Why can't you guys ever list the average, high and low middleclass areas of Nairobi for us? All your poor areas are slums (so we rule that out).
Are you guys trying to tell us that all the average and low middleclass Kenyans live in those beautiful and expensive parts of Nairobi??
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ccollins(m): 12:07am On May 13, 2017
DonnieTheGreat:


Yes sir,
Again you are wrong on many counts.

Firstly,
Oil is just 10% of Nigeria's GDP. Nigeria's GDP is roughly $US 500 Billion. so 10% of $US 500 Billion is $US 50 Billion. Now subtract $US500 - $US 50 billion = $US 450 Billion. So you are wrong our Nigeria would still be the greatest/largest Economy in Africa without Oil. grin

Also sir,
i would advice that you educate yourself on the economics of Nigeria. Nigeria is the biggest Economy in Africa!!. There is no debate about that. Even without oil.

I understand that we have some very basic problems like security,Energy,Human rights e.t.c but even America suffers most of those things its normal with big countries.

Is Nigeria perfect = No
Do we have a long way to go = YES

Are we the greatest Country in Africa = YES!!!

OK, what makes up majority of Nigeria Gdp then if not oil

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