proudlyYoruba:
respect her opinion, different things define us and that's our value. She is loved him within logic and reasoning, she believed she can't live the rest of her life with him. Simple. And I am not a scientist bro, I am a communicator say the language I understand.

Of course we respect people's opinions and that's why I advice the guy to move on that he will find a lady who wants him and doesn't care about his atheism.

And don't pretend you are for diversity. If you had been for diversity, you wouldn't have thought that a man doesn't deserve a woman just because he doesn't share the same faith with her.

The Truth Remains that: interfaith marriage and international theistic and non theistic marriage exists and the flourish even better than the marriage between belivers. Fashola and his wife, tinubu and wife, Abdul Fatah and wife, ajimobi and wife, Dr Anele (an atheist) and wife (a Christian) are pointers to the fact that you are a terrible liar!

theDEVILisHERE:


Atheism is not the truth
But it is closer to the truth

That's the price u pay for being in a zone filled with idiots

what is the truth then?

Toks2008:


Keep deceiving yourself...

Many Atheist secretly fear the possible existence of GOD but they keep fighting it until they die and find themselves face to face with the truth while those who have the chance usually accept God's existence at the point of death.

Fallacy! We only fear his heartless followers who can do anything to.fight for their powerless god

BECAUSE SHE DOES NOT WANT TO MARRY A FOOL !!!!

2dugged:
the fact is atheists draw their mortality on their state of mind they donot have a standard or reference, now what happens to a psychologically troubled atheist?, what you as an atheist tag as right, another atheist may not agree.one thing with logical thinking is you can be right in your own eyes.A sixteen years old American once killed two people, and when questioned why she did it,she said cos she hated Mondays, now to her that is a logical reason enough, that is my point, when you have nothing taming the conscience, there is bound to be chaos.Nigeria needs strong institutions and laws not atheism,a lot of people use China as example forgetting that it is not a atheist country, believe in good and evil and any form to conformity to a particular belief system is religion itself

Actually Atheism can't suffice or serve as a moral guide. Any moral atheist you see draws their morality innately, as do we all. Morality is not taught, neither was it brought on us by religion and it also didn't start thousands of years ago when the Abrahamic religions were born. Morality is a consequence of the socializing of living things, including us humans. To give you a clear picture, I will talk about monkeys. They usually live in groups/bands and coexist with much success. For them to be able to do this, there must be a common guide for them. It wasn't written, it wasn't taught, it wasn't even deliberate. For the group not to scatter in chaos the monkeys must consider carefully (at least to the extent of their consciousness and reasoning) their actions and subsequently, effects. I have seen monkeys beat individual ones for stealing, I've seen them prostitute, defend each other (and their harems), share food, care for young and old and other actions that ensure individual are at peace in the group to enjoy the benefit of living in bands like reproduction and security.

Same for humans, I am not supposed to steal, kill, rape etc not because it will lead me to hell but that it is detrimental to the cohesion of the society and we recognize it as so. Which is why we have laws binding members that want to enjoy the benefits of having a society. Atheism is just a lack of belief in God, nothing more. It can't teach you to recognise good and evil as they affect the society.

As for religion being the ultimate moral guide, I will simply ask you this "After reading from the bible that it's okay to be good, who decides and processes with thoughts that what they just read is the right thing? You or the bible?"

You'll see while some people might need religion to point out or remind them that they should be good, others can do it fine on their own because they already know the society by default demands it, the very existence of a society relies on it.

2dugged:
see comments,anyway the only thing I know I am skeptical about atheism is that I keep asking where atheist base their mortality on,Christians have their conscience tamed by instructions from the Bible, even if some don't adhere to most of those instructions but a large percentage do.while I respect the view of atheists,I must point out that we as Nigerians are not ready for it,imagine,if someone didn't have to say "if not because of God ,wetin I for do you eh", there will be chaos

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

toyetade:

Is this all you are benefitting. This will pale into insignificant when the reality of it comes. What do you know a mere mortal man ? What will you loose if you believe there is a God in heaven even if it turns out when you die that there isn't any when you die. Is that not better than believing there is no God here on earth and you get to heaven to discover there is actually a God to reward you according to your own work. It will be too late to do anything about it. Repent today my friend. You have nothing to loose but all to gain.

My dear. I said among other things, you dummy! And what reality are you talking about? That there is a here after? You really think everyone witnessed people die and concluded, based on their emotions for the dead loved one, that there must be an afterlife to reward those who've lived by your doctrines? An after life where they can meet again?

Now I can confirm that your belief in a God is out if fear. You don't want to go to hell, or that you want to go to heaven. This is why you opened your door to the homeless and fed the hungry? Well if this is the reason you did those acts, then I can say that you are not really being a good man. If I give things to people, then it is because I see the persons need for it and also the relief I would be bringing the person if I helped. I also recognize that I am in a position to help. Now what is a better motivation to help? My motivation, or your motivation which is just based on fear? And you have the guts to tell me I just want to do whatever I liked?

mecussey:


The fact that a woman quickly understood you are an atheist shows some atom of foolishness in you, with due respect sir. I will advice you to change your atitude first and stop screeming ' I dont believe in God ' It takes time to know someones lifestyle who is wise but it takes just a question to know a foolish man. Be free thinker, instead of an atheist, rmber some things are yet to be known. If you a science student, you will understand what I am mean. That you quickly concluded in this short time you stayed on earth that there is no God, means you can also quickly conclude that there is no object that could fly fast than a jet.

Using your jet logic, until the object faster than jet is confirmed to exist, jets remains the fastest object. Until the world diacovers a human faster than usain bolt, usain bolt remains the fastest man on earth. Same way, until we find a being we could call god, there is no god.

mecussey:


The fact that a woman quickly understood you are an atheist shows some atom of foolishness in you, with due respect sir. I will advice you to change your atitude first and stop screeming ' I dont believe in God ' It takes time to know someones lifestyle who is wise but it takes just a question to know a foolish man. Be free thinker, instead of an atheist, rmber some things are yet to be known. If you a science student, you will understand what I am mean. That you quickly concluded in this short time you stayed on earth that there is no God, means you can also quickly conclude that there is no object that could fly fast than a jet.

Using your jet logic, until the object faster than jet is confirmed to exist, jets remains the fastest object. Until the world diacovers a human faster than usain bolt, usain bolt remains the fastest man on earth. Same way, until we find a being worth calling god, there is no god.

MiddleDimension:


Of course we respect people's opinions and that's why I advice the guy to move on that he will find a lady who wants him and doesn't care about his atheism.

And don't pretend you are for diversity. If you had been for diversity, you wouldn't have thought that a man doesn't deserve a woman just because he doesn't share the same faith with her.

The Truth Remains that: interfaith marriage and international theistic and non theistic marriage exists and the flourish even better than the marriage between belivers. Fashola and his wife, tinubu and wife, Abdul Fatah and wife, ajimobi and wife, Dr Anele (an atheist) and wife (a Christian) are pointers to the fact that you are a terrible liar!

Can u see my mind. Do you see me tackling ur points regarding inter ethnic marriage or diversity. I advised the dude that there is a manifestation called GOD. Whether he is Christ or Jehovah, Allah or Vishnu or Buddha there is a supreme being. One when you try to think about you will find no answer. Bro, I have seen elders, people with power, people that defy nature, people with a word and will do things doctors can't do with plier and scissors. The interesting here is that these people salute either a OLODUMARE OR CHUKWU. BRO ACCEPT THERE IS GOD THEN WE TALK RELIGION. THINGS BEYOND SCIENCE, THINGS YOU WON'T BELIEVE HAPPENS. IT IS A BLESSING YOU ARE BLACK AND AFRICAN. IT MAKES YOU SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY. IT AIN'T MOVIE BRO. It is real there is power in nature, the one Einstein will not find answer even now that he Is dead.

klax:
I always wonder when a child born in Nigeria with Nigeria blood claiming atheist it surprises me a lot. Young man I guess you need psychiatrist examination and I really pity your parent a lot.

I was forced to have a glance at your profile to look at your picture definitely you look like lucifer for real now I realised truly anything of devil are always ugly look at yourself just go and get a better mirror look again at yourself you will see tru picture of lucifer Ll over your face. I love what the girl did and she must not date you.

If my sister come home with a guy like you I bet you your parent will not recognise you again by the time you will be release from.military gaurd room. I swear walahi.

You better give your life to God and stop being stupid. Atheist my foot, in fatct do you even know the meaning of Atheist Parent train your children this boy forming Atheist is another known lack of home training child I pity your parent a lot.

I descended on you so harsh because it has become so often of you talking Atheist all the time but this one I chose to do profile check on you and I'm not disappointed your picture says it all. You need help now I noted you.

Mod don't ban anybody for talking sense to this pot blacken face boy. People like him don't need advise much than talking sense to them and send them errand back to their parent at home.

There is no god!
I need you to cry me a river too

MiddleDimension:


No body wants to attract the acceptance of anybody you fool! You are the one who accepted the existence of God due to your being born into the family that is unfortunate to have you as a child.

And no, live with the fact that not everyone accepts that he was created, at least not according to your biblical mythology! Intelligence is what differentiates us from beasts, not the believe in God.

Because we are intelligent is why we can question , because we can question and do not have answers yet, is why you believe there is a God. But now that we have answers to what things like the solar eclipse is and why we have that darkness in n the middle of the day, we have now discovered that that there is a gap in knowledge, does not mean that there is a God. It only means we don't know enough.

My dear, we are the best law abiding citizens you can ever find. Because we do not have a doctrine formed from a book written by desert dwelling tribes who knew nothing in their earliest days, we now have the freedom to use our minds, put ourselves in other people's shoes and we can now have the compassion for other people. A compassion that is non existent in your warped ideology called Christianity.

If truly being an atheist means that we just want to do as we like without being held accountable, why then are we not the majority of people in prisons? Why thendo you have chapels and mosques in the prison yard? It turns out that we have those places of worship in prisons because the people OK e there are foolish theists like your pathetic self!

Dullard. Baba your just grasping for threads.. you have nothing to hold on to, no strong belief, no foothold to climb your mountain of ignorance and sheer foolishness.
You said your questioning things because your intelligent, i on the other hand think you just want proof. something that ll make you believe..because deep down, worms of guilt are gnawing at your feeble heart and you don't know what you'll face.
intelligent fool, suit yourself man. Do what you think is right and die in self inflicted ignorance.

Dimples182:


Atheists respect "Free will" the right to choose and knowledge. If they theists spent more time learning, understanding and taking the good from all the knowledge available to them (instead repeating these crazy, Lord of the ring stories) They'd probably be better christians. I don't know how they live with the constant hypocrisy! Just look at all the hate they spread on nl. They hate women everyday they create a thread on how to abuse and sexually molest women, how to lie to them to get in their pants... Yet they're all on this thread playing holy and dissing atheists!

you have been making so much sense. I need friends like you.

atheist ;Datheist lmao go joor

atheist ;Datheist lmao go joor

Wow!
So many fooolish christians on this thread. They never say anything reasonable.... Just doubt their god and watch how they'll attempt to murder you with insults. I thought y'all suppose to be righteous na

LaExpert:


Atheist, where does your moral standards come from?

Your mind? Your environment?
Where exactly?

from humanism

Ultimus:


Actually Atheism can't suffice or serve as a moral guide. Any moral atheist you see draws their morality innately, as do we all. Morality is not taught, neither was it brought on us by religion and it also didn't start thousands of years ago when the Abrahamic religions were born. Morality is a consequence of the socializing of living things, including us humans. To give you a clear picture, I will talk about monkeys. They usually live in groups/bands and coexist with much success. For them to be able to do this, there must be a common guide for them. It wasn't written, it wasn't taught, it wasn't even deliberate. For the group not to scatter in chaos the monkeys must consider carefully (at least to the extent of their consciousness and reasoning) their actions and subsequently, effects. I have seen monkeys beat individual ones for stealing, I've seen them prostitute, defend each other (and their harems), share food, care for young and old and other actions that ensure individual are at peace in the group to enjoy the benefit of living in bands like reproduction and security.

Same for humans, I am not supposed to steal, kill, rape etc not because it will lead me to hell but that it is detrimental to the cohesion of the society and we recognize it as so. Which is why we have laws binding members that want to enjoy the benefits of having a society. Atheism is just a lack of belief in God, nothing more. It can't teach you to recognise good and evil as they affect the society.

As for religion being the ultimate moral guide, I will simply ask you this "After reading from the bible that it's okay to be good, who decides and processes with thoughts that what they just read is the right thing? You or the bible?"

You'll see while some people might need religion to point out or remind them that they should be good, others can do it fine on their own because they already know the society by default demands it, the very existence of a society relies on it.

in all you have said ,do you know the fear of hell is actually taming the conscience of a lot of people, i dont know about other countries, but the thruth is we are not ready to liberal ,not yet ,i doubt humans can be moral on their own,psychologically, the human mind can snap,that is why brainwashing someone to bomb themselves is possible, now without that standard and constant reminder,free thinkers can only have their view and actions guided by their state of mind which if unstable or irrational can lead to chaos ,seeing a lot of Nigerians suffer one form of psychological disorder due to parental or environment ,and we seem not to have embraced therapy, I dar way we are not ready

RALPHOW:
BECAUSE SHE DOES NOT WANT TO MARRY A FOOL !!!!

YOU ARE ALSO A FOOL FOR USING NAIRALAND,FACEBOOK AND WATSAPP BECAUSE THE OWNERS ARE ATHIEST

chemystery:

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

if I am to base good of evil based on my state of mind ,like girl who killed people because she hated Mondays ,it will be logical to me ,because there is no set standard, as a free thinker ,your state of mind is allowed to influence your logicality and not because it has consistently said to be right or wrong

You chose your path. Deal with it. May your creator have mercy on you

Japhet04:
I met this girl recently everything has been going well until she found out I am an atheist, she started avoiding me and said she doesn't want anything to do with me because of that fact.

I really like her , is there anything I can do to ignite a change of mind on her part

ikeepitreal:
if you all notice, these so called atheists take pride in their foolishness. They make themselves known as Atheists because they want to attract some kind of acceptance and recognition in their social groups.
The truth is that they chose atheism to follow the footsteps of a popular fool who was deranged enough to question divinity and denounce the ultimate supremacy i. e GOD.
we all accept the fact that we were created, yes, as humans in the image of God. But we aren't gods.. we just have a drop of a quart of his spirits and that is what makes us superior to beasts. These fools( yh, that's what they are) don't want to be held accountable for their sins so they seem free when they spout the idea of God being non existent.
BUT the wages of sin is death anyhow, so FOOLISH ATHEISTS, if your sins are not forgiven by a divine power while your on earth. you will receive your reward.
Your body,soul and spirit in a thousand reincarnations will die!

...and this is how you would be speaking and fighting for amadioha or sango had it been missionaries didnt introduce their own god

2dugged:
if I am to base good of evil based on my state of mind ,like girl who killed people because she hated Mondays ,it will be logical to me ,because there is no set standard, as a free thinker ,your state of mind is allowed to influence your logicality and not because it has consistently said to be right or wrong

if i wouldn't want to be killed, then i wont kill people.
If i want respect, i'll respect people.
One who lacks morality lacks empathy and not religion

Amberon:
It is believed that there are about 366 "fear nots" in the bible. One for every day of the year. So Christianity doesn't instill fear but eradicates it. Don't say what you don't know.

Lol, a predator could tell it's prey to "fear not. If most of you weren't threatened with hellfire you probably wouldn't have ever been a Christian, it's not just an "if" it's a fact.

chemystery:
from humanism

Humanism differs from person to person, place to place and it changes overtime.

Things that are humane to an individual or a group of people could be inhumane to another.

If your moral standards come from humanism, it is bound to be subjective and dynamic which may not be good enough.

Give me a better source...if you have any.

chemystery:
if i wouldn't want to be killed, then i wont kill people.
If i want respect, i'll respect people.
One who lacks morality lacks empathy and not religion

If I, as a person, don't mind being killed, is it okay for me to kill others?

If no, why?

neocortex:

Christians behave the same way an average person does. They lie
as others do and also fornicate as others do.
If we are to judge christian based on the bible, none can meet up,
yet you had the audacity to qualify the girl as "GOD FEARING".
The only thing unique about christians is that they dance in church
on sundays.

SHOULD I SAY SHE DEVIL INCARNATE? SHE SAID SHE CAN'T DATE A MAN WHO SAID THERE IS NO GOD, THEN WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ME TO SAY? IS SHE NOT A CHILD OF GOD?

Amberon:
if you are not a chriatian, then its not in your place to tell us what laws God made or didnt make.

I don't even know why I'm replying you when you think the God in that your book of stories has a monopoly over his throne and expecting another person to believe that, the only law in life is choice, the rest is a truckload of bullshit.
I'll only like you to give me an answer to why you dismiss the Muslim and other Gods, when you understand that then understand why another person dismisses yours.

chemystery:
if i wouldn't want to be killed, then i wont kill people.
If i want respect, i'll respect people.
One who lacks morality lacks empathy and not religion

humans need constant reminder to have empathy,first from religion another from the law,now if one fails the other takes over ,that is why I said we as Africans that lack strong laws and institutions are not ready for athiesm. Now if according to my logic which has been obviously influenced by my state of mind tells me to retaliate because a person has done me wrong, logically ,I am right ,but morally that is wrong, even to larger extent according to the gravity of the retaliation, you will be said to have taken the laws into your hands ,that is the different between logicality and morality

I am really surprised at all the hate comments coming from so called christians..Christianity is supposed to be a religion of Love y'all!! Not hate.. God didn't send you to bash a guy he loved so much and sent His son to die for whether he knows or believes it or not.
I'm sure God will be ashamed of your rash behaviors.. una attitude Is enough to make someone stop believing in God sef..
Besides I have discovered that for you to be an atheist in Nigeria.. I found out that somehow the bad lifestyles of christians contribute to it..when you cut corners and don't represent your kingdom well.. you are telling a realist (non hypocrite) not to bother serving your God.
Learn to show love, market it cos that's who our God is. LOVE. #okbye

proudlyYoruba:
Can u see my mind. Do you see me tackling ur points regarding inter ethnic marriage or diversity. I advised the dude that there is a manifestation called GOD. Whether he is Christ or Jehovah, Allah or Vishnu or Buddha there is a supreme being. One when you try to think about you will find no answer. Bro, I have seen elders, people with power, people that defy nature, people with a word and will do things doctors can't do with plier and scissors. The interesting here is that these people salute either a OLODUMARE OR CHUKWU. BRO ACCEPT THERE IS GOD THEN WE TALK RELIGION. THINGS BEYOND SCIENCE, THINGS YOU WON'T BELIEVE HAPPENS. IT IS A BLESSING YOU ARE BLACK AND AFRICAN. IT MAKES YOU SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY. IT AIN'T MOVIE BRO. It is real there is power in nature, the one Einstein will not find answer even now that he Is dead.

Mtchewwww

As if when I agree that there is a Vishnu and obatala, you will now let me rest and not try to convince me that Jehovah Is the right way. Mtchewwww

justiniyke29:
U see never let religion determine who u date.hope u guys work it out

Na She married some other Guy from her Country and that was that. I stalked a on fb for a min then got over it. I miss the way she loved me more than I miss her, not sure if that make sense. Religion should have nothing to do with your relationship. Worship God your way and I will Worship him my way.