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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:47pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


With the potential purchase of James, what do you see in his future,

I think he wil flop. elampiro, afrodoc2, ibime nihilist a40 what do you think

Another latin player who grudgingly comes to Man Utd for a huge fee. I dont se James as someone that will be defending against a full back like Mourinho wants

I want to see how Miki, Pogba, Herrera James etc will lineup next season

I like James as a player, but his party lifestyle is Notorious in Spain. Isn't he the one that led a police chase straight to the gates of the Madrid training ground?

Manchester/Liverpool parole can be super mad for normal people let alone young multi millionaires.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:53pm On May 16, 2017
Nihilist:
I like James as a player, but his party lifestyle is Notorious in Spain. Isn't he the one that led a police chase straight to the gates of the Madrid training ground?

Manchester/Liverpool parole can be super mad for normal people let alone young multi millionaires.
I like James too
The way I see him, he came in the wrong era. He is a very good 10. But teams dont use 10's anymore. The shunt their 10 into the wings to run and load the middle with hard workers

Yeah South Americans love to party, Vidal parties hard and has crashed like 2 Ferraris when drunk but I don't have any doubt about his ability to survive.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:05pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


With the potential purchase of James, what do you see in his future,

I think he wil flop. elampiro, afrodoc2, ibime nihilist a40 what do you think

Another latin player who grudgingly comes to Man Utd for a huge fee. I dont se James as someone that will be defending against a full back like Mourinho wants

I want to see how Miki, Pogba, Herrera James etc will lineup next season

James is a 10, anywhere else he becomes a liability. Very similar to Mata in my opinion but since he is younger, a little faster and shields the ball better he should be an upgrade. I am not really over the moon about it like funlord because his type tends to struggle with the physicality and speed of the EPL.
There are other more crucial positions JM needs to strengthen so I am just on siddon look mode for now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 6:15pm On May 16, 2017
Still lamenting...Lmao..

Elampiro baba, I hope you have now realised what Ibra brings to the team in terms of his creativity. All those chances missed by him which you kept lamenting about, where are these chances now? He created them in the first place with his linkup, holdup play and playmaking in the final third.

He's still Mourinho's best buy because he didn't only bring in the goals but his aerial threats, holdup play and creativity are also advantageous to the team as a whole. Yes, he lacks pace but so is Kane. The only thing is he's a grandpa and we don't know when his decline will permanently set in.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 6:17pm On May 16, 2017
Diademk07:
Still lamenting...Lmao..

Elampiro baba, I hope you have now realised what Ibra brings to the team in terms of his creativity. All those chances missed by him which you kept lamenting about, where are these chances now? He created them in the first place with his linkup, holdup play and playmaking in the final third.

He's still Mourinho's best buy because he didn't only bring in the goals but his aeri
al threats, holdup play and creativity are also advantageous to the team as a whole. Yes, he's slow but so is Kane. The only thing is he's a grandpa and we don't know when his decline will permanently set in.
what of herrera? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:22pm On May 16, 2017
afrodoc2:


James is a 10, anywhere else he becomes a liability. Very similar to Mata in my opinion but since he is younger, a little faster and shields the ball better he should be an upgrade. I am not really over the moon about it like funlord because his type tends to struggle with the physicality and speed of the EPL.
There are other more crucial positions JM needs to strengthen so I am just on siddon look mode for now.

James is also good on the right wing but as an Inside Forward or Playmaker shaa...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 6:28pm On May 16, 2017
weedtaker:
what of herrera? grin

You mean the acclaimed workhorse who can only exploit the space provided from Pogba being marked?

Care to tell me how good he's looked so far without Pogba in the midfield to get all the attention while he gets all the needed space to exploit? Still looked useless as ever. Let me remind you that Cleverley looked good as well beside an in form Anderson.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:31pm On May 16, 2017
GloryIsaac:


James is also good on the right wing but as an Inside Forward or Playmaker shaa...

In that role he will drift inside, leaving the job of width and crossing to only Valencia and we know that is DOA. Also he will allow the LB and LW to combine and pummel Valencia in our half. He is a luxury player best accommodated as a 10.
We should stop stockpiling all these no 10s masquerading as wingers or wing forwards. If James comes it's only natural Mata goes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:32pm On May 16, 2017
weedtaker:
smh grin

na you know wetin pogba do you.
How I go sign player for $89m wey no dey destroy players dey jam goals weekly?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:32pm On May 16, 2017
Reports from Football Leaks that Zlatan Ibrahimovic is earning £368,000 per week could prevent Manchester United from signing Atletico Madrid's Antoine Griezmann
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 6:38pm On May 16, 2017
afrodoc2:


In that role he will drift inside, leaving the job of width and crossing to only Valencia and we know that is DOA. Also he will allow the LB and LW to combine and pummel Valencia in our half. He is a luxury player best accommodated as a 10.
We should stop stockpiling all these no 10s masquerading as wingers or wing forwards. If James comes it's only natural Mata goes.

Is he even a 10 or a SS? Because he looks like a SS to me.

Exactly Mata make 11, that is, slow, has good nose for goals, little creativity when it's not coming from set-pieces although he's different in the fact that he has some good dribbles on him however he's very very lazy..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:38pm On May 16, 2017
kokaneprodigy:

And funlord2 claims united doesn't need money, keep living in self denial. You are going the way of Leeds united, it is a process, a gradual one.
As it stands now we both going that way

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:42pm On May 16, 2017
Funlord2:



Chai! Dont most successful businesses on earth post losses? Microsoft does not post? Or apple? Or madrid? Or barca? Or arsenal? The key is outstripping your losses with massive gains boy which we are the kings of doing!

Men......who do you this thing abeg! Stop grasping at straws....united is filthy with the notes...we stay in the black all day every day...smell that cash and dream to see our level 1 day!

http://www.football365.com/news/man-utd-performing-better-than-expected
None of the corporations you've mentioned will say they don't need money.
In your case u said united does not need money. That was the crux of this matter. How will you be posting loses and won't need money to stay strong financially? Enlighten me
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 6:46pm On May 16, 2017
kokaneprodigy:

That was the crust of this matter. How will you be posting loses and won't need money to stay strong financially? Enlighten me

You enlighten me on the crust of the matter - Aluminum or iron crust??

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 6:50pm On May 16, 2017
Nihilist:
I laugh about it, I be feelin' them See, we both be making M's ChristineC be making memes, We be making Millions (and Champions)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7UAj9bl1-I
nice track though tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:52pm On May 16, 2017
afrodoc2:


In that role he will drift inside, leaving the job of width and crossing to only Valencia and we know that is DOA. Also he will allow the LB and LW to combine and pummel Valencia in our half. He is a luxury player best accommodated as a 10.
We should stop stockpiling all these no 10s masquerading as wingers or wing forwards. If James comes it's only natural Mata goes.

I don't want Mata to go abeg...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 7:00pm On May 16, 2017
AdisaOwala:


You enlighten me on the crust of the matter - Aluminum or iron crust??

grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:02pm On May 16, 2017
AdisaOwala:


You enlighten me on the crust of the matter - Aluminum or iron crust??
I meant to type crux, thanks.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:03pm On May 16, 2017
GloryIsaac:


I don't want Mata to go abeg...

We can't be stockpiling AMs all over the place. We need true wing forwards and pacy CFs to stretch the defence both laterally and vertically.
If JM wants 4-2-3-1 next season I would prefer Mikki and one other person to compete for that position and if James comes that person would be him leaving Mata out.
If JM wants 4-3-3 I don't think James solves our problems, however if he comes then it makes sense that it is to replace Mata.
Having said all that Mata staying won't get me too bothered AS LONG AS FELLAINI GOES.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 7:15pm On May 16, 2017
Rooney cutting out would really free up the wage bill and give us room to maneuver with the contract of any new super striker coming in! He needs to sort out his future quickly...we are going on a long tour to the u.s for pre season so our signings need to be done by the end of July!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 7:20pm On May 16, 2017
^^^^^^^


grin



It's technically over for Rooney as a United Player, same as Ibra!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 7:22pm On May 16, 2017
afrodoc2:


We can't be stockpiling AMs all over the place. We need true wing forwards and pacy CFs to stretch the defence both laterally and vertically.
If JM wants 4-2-3-1 next season I would prefer Mikki and one other person to compete for that position and if James comes that person would be him leaving Mata out.
If JM wants 4-3-3 I don't think James solves our problems, however if he comes then it makes sense that it is to replace Mata.
Having said all that Mata staying won't get me too bothered AS LONG AS FELLAINI GOES.

It would be so funny if we brought in Griezmann and James in the summer.

I mean both players are more or less SS and while James has some good crosses on him, only a player like Ibra can work with it.

We shouldn't even think of playing James in the central midfield because first, he's very lazy and secondly, all he knows about in that position is pinging long ball all over the field which is okay when it works but tiring when it doesn't. Rooney can give a better detail.

I saw his match against granada where he played in the central midfield and he looked horrible but his 2 goals gave him a pass.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:24pm On May 16, 2017
Funlord2:



Rooney cutting out would really free up the wage bill and give us room to maneuver with the contract of any new super striker coming in! He needs to sort out his future quickly...we are going on a long tour to the u.s for pre season so our signings need to be done by the end of July!

Rooney surely is leaving. That frees up space on the field and the wage bill as you said. We didn't replace Shweini, Schneiderlin this season and if Zlatn leaves that is another space to fill.
LB, CB, CM, RW, CF. Nothing less than 5 players needed again, when will this wild goose change end?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:30pm On May 16, 2017
Diademk07:


It would be so funny if we brought in Griezmann and James in the summer.

I mean both players are more or less SS and while James has some good crosses on him, only a player like Ibra could work with it.

We shouldn't even think of playing James in the central midfield because first, he's very lazy and secondly, all he knows about in that position is pinging long ball all over the field which is okay when it works but tiring when it doesn't. Rooney can give a better detail.

I watched his match against granada where he played in the central midfield and he looked horrible but his 2 goals gave him a pass.

James will never work as a CM esp in the EPL but he can thrive in the 10 role just behind the CF. However like you noted as the golden boy of Colombian soccer he has been spoilt from a young age and is naturally lazy and lacking in stamina.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 7:40pm On May 16, 2017
afrodoc2:


James will never work as a CM ESP not in the EPL but he can thrive in the 10 role just behind the CF. However like you noted as the golden boy of Colombian soccer he has been spoilt from a young age and is naturally lazy and lacking in stamina.


It's exactly his laziness that's preventing him from being a replacement for the injured Bale on the wing because he's got some good crosses on him for the position.

Personally, I would be okay with him if we could get him for cheap like say 20mil but not for 80mil. He's a luxury player and definitely not a playmaker but SS.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:44pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


With the potential purchase of James, what do you see in his future,

I think he wil flop. elampiro_, afrodoc2_, ibime_ nihilist_ a40_ what do you think

Another latin player who grudgingly comes to Man Utd for a huge fee. I dont se James as someone that will be defending against a full back like Mourinho wants

I want to see how Miki, Pogba, Herrera James etc will lineup next season

Apart from adding DEPTH to our squad, I don't see the need of Rodriguez purchase. As I stated earlier, I'm not a huge fan of the fella. I like him but I've never see him as that urgent solution to our failings. Rodriguez's position is that of an AM and we have Mhiki, Mata and even Pogba (he doesn't cut it for me as my typical DM) that can play that position. Place Rodriguez any other position and he becomes useless. This is why the embolden part in your post becomes a headache for me and why I don't want him.

Getting him will make Mourinho to shunt Mhiki to the wings or even him to the wings and they flop and we're back to level zero all over again. What Mourinho nerds to do is to address the key areas/spine of the team so that can flourish even with this average players.

First, we need an LB, either of Mendy, Sandro or even Alba of Barcelona who's having a frosty relationship with Enrique. Any of these guys are not injury prone like Shaw.

Get 2 solid CBs and dispatch Smalling and Jones. Smalling for being useless and Jones for being injury prone. With Bailly, Rojo, Tuanzebe and these two solid CBs, we're okay in that department.

Leave the RB for Valencia and Fosuh-Mensah.

Buy 2 solid DMs to partner Herrera. I suggest someone like Matuidi and Bakayoko. We need to add steel to that midfield. EPL is very physical.

Get a RWinger. Very, very, very important. We keep ignoring this wing and using AMs like Mata leaving Valencia to struggle and that wing to be useless. If we can we can land Dembele and Willian, that place is covered. My ideal RWinger is a tricky pacy left-footed winger like Robben or Messi to cut in and also run at defenders. Unfortunately, I can't find those type of quality currently.

Then leave Pogba, Mhiki and Mata to run our AM/CM.

For LW, either trust Martial to regain his form or try snatching Sanchez to add to the quality on that wing. Even Rashford can play there if Martial loses form or gets injured.

Thrn finally get a top CF. A proven goalscorer like Aubameyang. Mbappe has that potential but he'll cost us up to 90mil which is madness. Belloti is up for 90mil last I read which is outrageous. Plus they're still one-season wonders. Can we trust them? I'd rather go for Aubameyang and take the risk.


With the above, I don't need both Griezman and Rodriguez. They're not the main solution IMHO.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:49pm On May 16, 2017
afrodoc2:


In that role he will drift inside, leaving the job of width and crossing to only Valencia and we know that is DOA. Also he will allow the LB and LW to combine and pummel Valencia in our half. He is a luxury player best accommodated as a 10.
We should stop stockpiling all these no 10s masquerading as wingers or wing forwards. If James comes it's only natural Mata goes.

Thank you. I said this earlier today. This is what we've been suffering under LvG and Mourinho. Our LB and RB has been ineffective because of the embolden. See how Chelshit wing backs protects the back-3, us, we have AMs that leave their positions to be dragging midfield positions leaving our full-backs vulnerable to attacks. I'm just tired!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:50pm On May 16, 2017
SIRcumalot:


Upgrade on Mata certainly,Micki am not so sure about,micki should be better next season.
If James was that good he should be gobbling up all the minute Bale dey leave for ground.
You don't see R. Madrid offering us Isco na.


as long as say na Jose want am I dey alright.
How's James even an upgrade on Mata
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 7:51pm On May 16, 2017
afrodoc2:


Rooney surely is leaving. That frees up space on the field and the wage bill as you said. We didn't replace Shweini, Schneiderlin this season and if Zlatn leaves that is another space to fill.
LB, CB, CM, RW, CF. Nothing less than 5 players needed again, when will this wild goose change end?



It will end on September 1st! We already have close to £45m from player sales in January to be added to whatever the board would deem fit for rebuilding this summer I would say we would have enough to cover all the positions required! I've heard £150 to £200m is the projected budget excluding smart loans and young players returning from loans....i think perreira and co are also in joses thoughts for next season! I think he wants a mixture of top of the line quality and hungry youth!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:54pm On May 16, 2017
AdisaOwala:


You enlighten me on the crust of the matter - Aluminum or iron crust??

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 7:56pm On May 16, 2017
i go start to lose faith in jose managerial ability based on how he go use James.
i share the same fears with most of you concerning this ninja.
he built a really decent madrid side with ozil who no get the highest work rate maybe he can do the same next season.
the dablord can say bye-bye to that 4-3-3 dream.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:57pm On May 16, 2017
afrodoc2:


We can't be stockpiling AMs all over the place. We need true wing forwards and pacy CFs to stretch the defence both laterally and vertically.

If JM wants 4-2-3-1 next season I would prefer Mikki and one other person to compete for that position and if James comes that person would be him leaving Mata out.
If JM wants 4-3-3 I don't think James solves our problems, however if he comes then it makes sense that it is to replace Mata.
Having said all that Mata staying won't get me too bothered AS LONG AS FELLAINI GOES.

Exactly what we need - true wing forwards. I don't know what these coaches of ours are smoking not to know this.

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