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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 8:03pm On May 16, 2017
chrisley024:
How's James even an upgrade on Mata
his like Mata,but better in every other aspect.
i think the best way i can put it,is that he plays like the Mata of chelsea,something mata never truly did for us for some reason.
that is why i said earlier that mata go get reduced role or enter market.
them too similar.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:05pm On May 16, 2017
SIRcumalot:
i go start to lose faith in jose managerial ability based on how he go use James.
i share the same fears with most of you concerning this ninja.
he built a really decent madrid side with ozil who no get the highest work rate maybe he can do the same next season.
the dablord can say bye-bye to that 4-3-3 dream.

True, but you're forgetting those Ozïl had surrounding him. We don't have those type of quality and that's what he needs to address first if we're going to get Rodriguez.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:11pm On May 16, 2017
Diademk07:
Still lamenting...Lmao..

Elampiro baba, I hope you have now realised what Ibra brings to the team in terms of his creativity. All those chances missed by him which you kept lamenting about, where are these chances now? He created them in the first place with his linkup, holdup play and playmaking in the final third.

He's still Mourinho's best buy because he didn't only bring in the goals but his aerial threats, holdup play and creativity are also advantageous to the team as a whole. Yes, he lacks pace but so is Kane. The only thing is he's a grandpa and we don't know when his decline will permanently set in.

I object. If Ibrahimovic were around we would have been dumped out of that Europa match vs Anderlecht. I prefer Rashford's agility and speed.

When Ibrahimovic went on 3 many ban we coped well without him. We wouldn't have done nothing with him against Arsenal and Spurs playing mostly second eleven team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:12pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


With the potential purchase of James, what do you see in his future,

I think he wil flop. elampiro, afrodoc2, ibime nihilist a40 what do you think

Another latin player who grudgingly comes to Man Utd for a huge fee. I dont se James as someone that will be defending against a full back like Mourinho wants

I want to see how Miki, Pogba, Herrera James etc will lineup next season

I am certainly not his fan.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 8:24pm On May 16, 2017
what's happened to Cameron Jackson for left back? no one can buy a whole new 11. the lad showed enough promise to be given opportunity.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 8:28pm On May 16, 2017
sinizia:


Apart from adding DEPTH to our squad, I don't see the need of Rodriguez purchase. As I stated earlier, I'm not a huge fan of the fella. I like him but I've never see him as that urgent solution to our failings. Rodriguez's position is that of an AM and we have Mhiki, Mata and even Pogba (he doesn't cut it for me as my typical DM) that can play that position. Place Rodriguez any other position and he becomes useless. This is why the embolden part in your post becomes a headache for me and why I don't want him.

Getting him will make Mourinho to shunt Mhiki to the wings or even him to the wings and they flop and we're back to level zero all over again. What Mourinho nerds to do is to address the key areas/spine of the team so that can flourish even with this average players.

First, we need an LB, either of Mendy, Sandro or even Alba of Barcelona who's having a frosty relationship with Enrique. Any of these guys are not injury prone like Shaw.

Get 2 solid CBs and dispatch Smalling and Jones. Smalling for being useless and Jones for being injury prone. With Bailly, Rojo, Tuanzebe and these two solid CBs, we're okay in that department.

Leave the RB for Valencia and Fosuh-Mensah.

Buy 2 solid DMs to partner Herrera. I suggest someone like Matuidi and Bakayoko. We need to add steel to that midfield. EPL is very physical.

Get a RWinger. Very, very, very important. We keep ignoring this wing and using AMs like Mata leaving Valencia to struggle and that wing to be useless. If we can we can land Dembele and Willian, that place is covered. My ideal RWinger is a tricky pacy left-footed winger like Robben or Messi to cut in and also run at defenders. Unfortunately, I can't find those type of quality currently.

Then leave Pogba, Mhiki and Mata to run our AM/CM.

For LW, either trust Martial to regain his form or try snatching Sanchez to add to the quality on that wing. Even Rashford can play there if Martial loses form or gets injured.

Thrn finally get a top CF. A proven goalscorer like Aubameyang. Mbappe has that potential but he'll cost us up to 90mil which is madness. Belloti is up for 90mil last I read which is outrageous. Plus they're still one-season wonders. Can we trust them? I'd rather go for Aubameyang and take the risk.


With the above, I don't need both Griezman and Rodriguez. They're not the main solution IMHO.

Mkhi is a winger na or maybe a wing forward.. All I know is he's looked better for us on the wing than in the centre just like he did at Dortmund and when I say on the wing, I mean on the right wing. The problem is Mkhi operates on space and when there's no space for him, he's often tosh.

Personally I would love to see him as a box-box CM for us because I've heard he looked good in the position for his country and I think he did well in the position at Shaktar although I haven't seen him play there but as far as I'm concerned, he was rubbish as a no 10 for Dortmund until he was moved to the wing and hasn't covered himself in glory in the few times he played as a no 10 for us either.

Another thing to worry about is his stamina. He gets tired too easily. Hence, I don't know how that box-box position is feasible.

But let me ask you this, if we have 2 DM to partner Herrera in the midfield where is the AM position that Pogba/Mhki/Mata is supposed to play?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 8:36pm On May 16, 2017
elampiro:


I object. If Ibrahimovic were around we would have been dumped out of that Europa match vs Anderlecht. I prefer Rashford's agility and speed.

When Ibrahimovic went on 3 many ban we coped well without him. We wouldn't have done nothing with him against Arsenal and Spurs playing mostly second eleven team.

I asked where are the many chances Ibra kept getting now?

You didn't answer my question instead you went on about a prediction you never knew about. You certainly don't know what would have happened with Ibra in the team. The only certain fact is that as soon as Ibra got injured, all the chances the team often had, is all but dried up!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 8:46pm On May 16, 2017
Arsenal the new oba of the europa league

Enjoy Thursday nights in Krakow or srebenicia or where ever!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 8:55pm On May 16, 2017
ChristineC:
what's happened to Cameron Jackson for left back? no one can buy a whole new 11. the lad showed enough promise to be given opportunity.

I think he went on loan to some team although he hardly played for them.

I'm still not sure of his defensive game but he showed enough in the attacking department and his crosses are good.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 8:56pm On May 16, 2017
SIRcumalot:

his like Mata,but better in every other aspect.
i think the best way i can put it,is that he plays like the Mata of chelsea,something mata never truly did for us for some reason.
that is why i said earlier that mata go get reduced role or enter market.
them too similar.
And you know all this from the little game time he has had or you're describing James of WC? The only advantage I see is he's quicker. Mata has a better off the ball movement nothing to mention experience.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:57pm On May 16, 2017
Diademk07:


I asked where are the many chances Ibra kept getting now?

You didn't answer my question instead you went on about a prediction you never knew about. You certainly don't know what would have happened with Ibra in the team. The only certain fact is that as soon as Ibra got injured, all the chances the team often had, is all but dried up!

Our number of chances have not reduced in the matches we played Pogba, Herrera and Valencia with Rashford as the lead striker.

The chances only reduced against Arsenal and Spurs when we rested the key players.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 9:01pm On May 16, 2017
Lol, this club is funny, wat do they want to carry all those AMs to do?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chelseafan1: 9:03pm On May 16, 2017
sinizia:


Apart from adding DEPTH to our squad, I don't see the need of Rodriguez purchase. As I stated earlier, I'm not a huge fan of the fella. I like him but I've never see him as that urgent solution to our failings. Rodriguez's position is that of an AM and we have Mhiki, Mata and even Pogba (he doesn't cut it for me as my typical DM) that can play that position. Place Rodriguez any other position and he becomes useless. This is why the embolden part in your post becomes a headache for me and why I don't want him.

Getting him will make Mourinho to shunt Mhiki to the wings or even him to the wings and they flop and we're back to level zero all over again. What Mourinho nerds to do is to address the key areas/spine of the team so that can flourish even with this average players.

First, we need an LB, either of Mendy, Sandro or even Alba of Barcelona who's having a frosty relationship with Enrique. Any of these guys are not injury prone like Shaw.

Get 2 solid CBs and dispatch Smalling and Jones. Smalling for being useless and Jones for being injury prone. With Bailly, Rojo, Tuanzebe and these two solid CBs, we're okay in that department.

Leave the RB for Valencia and Fosuh-Mensah.

Buy 2 solid DMs to partner Herrera. I suggest someone like Matuidi and Bakayoko. We need to add steel to that midfield. EPL is very physical.

Get a RWinger. Very, very, very important. We keep ignoring this wing and using AMs like Mata leaving Valencia to struggle and that wing to be useless. If we can we can land Dembele and Willian, that place is covered. My ideal RWinger is a tricky pacy left-footed winger like Robben or Messi to cut in and also run at defenders. Unfortunately, I can't find those type of quality currently.

Then leave Pogba, Mhiki and Mata to run our AM/CM.

For LW, either trust Martial to regain his form or try snatching Sanchez to add to the quality on that wing. Even Rashford can play there if Martial loses form or gets injured.

Thrn finally get a top CF. A proven goalscorer like Aubameyang. Mbappe has that potential but he'll cost us up to 90mil which is madness. Belloti is up for 90mil last I read which is outrageous. Plus they're still one-season wonders. Can we trust them? I'd rather go for Aubameyang and take the risk.


With the above, I don't need both Griezman and Rodriguez. They're not the main solution IMHO.

Lmao....With all these players you want, like how much do you envisage Man utd will spend next transfer window?? 300m, 400m, 500m or more?? smiley smiley smiley
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 9:04pm On May 16, 2017
elampiro:


Our number of chances have not reduced in the matches we played Pogba, Herrera and Valencia with Rashford as the lead striker.

The chances only reduced against Arsenal and Spurs when we rested the key players.

Of course I can see we had lot of chances against Celta..

If that Guidettii of a guy wasn't so wasteful, you probably wouldn't be coming up with such prediction.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 9:04pm On May 16, 2017
ChristineC:
what's happened to Cameron Jackson for left back? no one can buy a whole new 11. the lad showed enough promise to be given opportunity.
Think he was sent out on loan nd injured himself, he should b bk by nw shaa.
the end of season tour would be used to determine the future of these guys i think.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 9:09pm On May 16, 2017
cheesy Diademk07 Long time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:11pm On May 16, 2017
Diademk07:


Of course I can see we had lot of chances against Celta..

If that Guidettii of a guy wasn't so wasteful, you probably wouldn't be coming up with such prediction.

We had lots of chances against Celta away.

How many chances did we have against Fernabache away when Ibrahimovic played?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chelseafan1: 9:13pm On May 16, 2017
weedtaker:
smh grin

na you know wetin pogba do you.

The kinda damage wey this Pogba deal do for una no be small, I doubt any team will wanna sell a decent player to una for cheap.

Blessed be the day we got Eden Hazard and Kantelele for less than 36m pounds each. cheesy tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:16pm On May 16, 2017
Diademk07:


Mkhi is a winger na or maybe a wing forward.. All I know is he's looked better for us on the wing than in the centre just like he did at Dortmund and when I say on the wing, I mean on the right wing. The problem is Mkhi operates on space and when there's no space for him, he's often tosh.

Personally I would love to see him as a box-box CM for us because I've heard he looked good in the position for his country and I think he did well in the position at Shaktar although I haven't seen him play there but as far as I'm concerned, he was rubbish as a no 10 for Dortmund until he was moved to the wing and hasn't covered himself in glory in the few times he played as a no 10 for us either.

Another thing to worry about is his stamina. He gets tired too easily. Hence, I don't know how that box-box position is feasible.

But let me ask you this, if we have 2 DM to partner Herrera in the midfield where is the AM position that Pogba/Mhki/Mata is supposed to play?

@ embolden, the double DMs is to replace those like Carrick, Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin that we've lost. It could also be one DM and one CM as long as we replace those we've lost. Fellani also need to leave, so basically we need recruitments in that CM/DM roles.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 9:18pm On May 16, 2017
Oasis007:


grin

Lingard needs to be demoted to the U23 Team next Season or be sold, coz loaning him out is a waste of Time.
I dey think say na only me no like the guy dey start match.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 9:19pm On May 16, 2017
chrisley024:
And you know all this from the little game time he has had or you're describing James of WC? The only advantage I see is he's quicker. Mata has a better off the ball movement nothing to mention experience.
i formed my opinon about james by watching ancelotti's madrid.
at this stage in both their career the better player his clear if things no set for Mata under moyes and LVG no be under jose the resurgence go happen.
plus,mata na fringe player for us too.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:19pm On May 16, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Lmao....With all these players you want, like how much do you envisage Man utd will spend next transfer window?? 300m, 400m, 500m or more?? smiley smiley smiley

We can't get all, but if we can get some, we'd try and get them because we need up to 5 players. The team is average at best. If entails us spending, then we spend the money. After all those idiots_ blew 89m on one single player. They better spend more to make the team look good.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:22pm On May 16, 2017
ChristineC:
what's happened to Cameron Jackson for left back? no one can buy a whole new 11. the lad showed enough promise to be given opportunity.

Jackson at best should be an understudy to our new LB. how can you honestly think that frail kid will solve our LB dilemma in this rigorous EPL?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 9:24pm On May 16, 2017
sinizia:


True, but you're forgetting those Ozïl had surrounding him. We don't have those type of quality and that's what he needs to address first if we're going to get Rodriguez.
what about the inter side with snejider ?
i think that is another good example.
time still dey for market.i also expect martial to be really good next season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 9:25pm On May 16, 2017
elampiro:


We had lots of chances against Celta away.

How many chances did we have against Fernabache away when Ibrahimovic played?

Again, lot of chances against Celta indeed!

Whether we had many chances or not, Ibra's hold up play which often help to bring others to play was prominent in that match, as it did in many other matches. The only time we failed to be productive with Ibra was when the opposition teams parked the bus and hardly attacked us but against a clueless open team such as Celta, Ibra is the man.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:27pm On May 16, 2017
Diademk07:


Of course I can see we had lot of chances against Celta..

If that Guidettii of a guy wasn't so wasteful, you probably wouldn't be coming up with such prediction.

During the first-leg against Celta we had a lot of chances though. Our chances reduced immediately Mourinho gave up on top 4 and instructed the lads to defend like Championship teams.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chelseafan1: 9:30pm On May 16, 2017
sinizia:


We can't get all, but if we can get some, we'd try and get them because we need up to 5 players. The team is average at best. If entails us spending, then we spend the money. After all those idiots_ blew 89m on one single player. They better spend more to make the team look good.

grin grin I have a feeling the 89m blown on Pogba would even make it hard for y'all to get good players for cheap.

Make we dey look sha.

Una need correct Wingers like Sanchez/Willian and /Neymar/Hazard, players that can stretch defenders wide.

That Martial is good but still young. Dembele is young too, na peaked players una need, not those under 21 wey still dey develop....


Chelsea might rule this league next season again if care isn't taken.

Your defence + GK aren't doing bad IMO, na to create chances and score goals be the major problems.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:33pm On May 16, 2017
SIRcumalot:

what about the inter side with snejider ?
i think that is another good example.
time still dey for market.i also expect martial to be really good next season.

Inter team had better players than us. Milito, Eto'o, Zanetti, Motta, Lucio, Walter Samuel, Chivu, etc. They're definitely not the best team but they were resilent, strong, scored with few chances and most importantly better than this our team. But if Mourinho can improve other places we need recruitments in, then I don't mind him getting James.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:37pm On May 16, 2017
Diademk07:


Again, lot of chances against Celta indeed!

Whether we had many chances or not, Ibra's hold up play which often help to bring others to play was prominent in that match, as it did in many other matches. The only time we failed to be productive with Ibra was when the opposition teams parked the bus and hardly attacked us but against a clueless open team such as Celta, Ibra is the man.

Ibrahimovic was there when we drew 1-1 with 10 men Bournemouth at Old Trafford.

Look at our players chances created per minutes, about 5 players ahead of Ibrahimovic.

Are we going to be eating hold up play or goals. Other strikers have banged in 25 goals.

We need Aubameyang

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chelseafan1: 9:37pm On May 16, 2017
Make I troll small jare.


Manchester United broke the World transfer record for a player wearing number 6 and guess what, they ended the league in 6th position.


Abeg, which Jersey number Griezmann they wear?incase they decide to break the bank for him



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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 9:38pm On May 16, 2017
Odunharry:

I dey think say na only me no like the guy dey start match.

grin

I really can't say what he's good at, but I trust him to score anytime he plays in a final Match.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:43pm On May 16, 2017
Chelseafan1:
Make I troll small jare.


Manchester United broke the World transfer record for a player wearing number 6 and guess what, they ended the league in 6th position.


Abeg, which Jersey number Griezmann they wear?incase they decide to break the bank for him




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