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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PROVERBZ(m): 7:00pm On May 18, 2017
goal kelechi nwankali just scored

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:02pm On May 18, 2017
AIG07:

nff or the coaching crew?

Abeg make those guys in the glass house no near this team o o o.

The coaching crew but it is the Nff that sends out the invites.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 7:08pm On May 18, 2017
Mickael2:


Nothing special about Onyekuru? Well that's a new one. I was watching his match with a friend, he rightly pointed out that the dude plays like David Villa. Ok, do you know that Villa was once a winger at Barca? Did you ever see him crossing the ball? Do you think that your local 'kick and chase' football is what they do at a professional level, where you just run to the byline and you cross? Oga, his instruction is not to cross the ball, how can you instruct your best player to stay on the wings and be putting in crosses alone when you know how clinical he is? Oga he is not a wide midfielder, he is a wing forward, it's just like expecting Ronaldo or Messi to be putting in crosses when they are in that position, utterly ridiculous.

For me, I will go with a front line of...
Onyekuru/Nacho/Kayode

Iwobi/Onyekuru V. Moses

that boy is too good to be far from our first eleven. Iwobi had better step up because he has been poor and doesn't even deserve to be second choice in that position
Sir, don't be too quick to make your conclusion on his chances with the Eagles.

Henry is good. No doubt about that. Saying that with his present form he will easily displace some players in SE's starting line up is way too far and too early.

Let's wait and see him play first in the green white green.

Remember some players Club form/success does not often translate to national team. We 've seen amazing so many players with fine forms who can't cut it in their respective national teams.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 7:10pm On May 18, 2017
tbaba1234:


The coaching crew but it is the Nff that sends out the invites.
thanks for the clarification .
Cos we won't want those guys to start interfering with team selection.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:33pm On May 18, 2017
Nope. But, actually, I was talking about in the beginning - before Jesus joined City....when Pep kept playing everybody (Navas, Nolito, Sterling, etc.) except Nacho.

O pari

Mickael2:


Let us be realistic, if you are a coach, will you play Nacho ahead of Gabriel Jesus?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:38pm On May 18, 2017
safarigirl:
I do not see how anyone can prefer an unproven forward to a proven one.

At least Onyekuru has successfully played against defenders in a professional league, the Belgian league is one of the best in Europe, so I don't know how you can refer to them as 'backwater' defenders.

Osimhen on the other hand only has experience at age grade level, he is yet to face backwater defenders sef, just because he's in Germany doesn't make him better than Onyekuru for now, bear in mind, Onyekuru is just a year older.

If you must compare him, why don't you do so against the likes of Moses Simon who plays against the same 'backwater defenders', but still doesn't have 23 goals to his name?

My point is Osimhen is the gifted type of player. Every coaches' dream. A sharp striker who can lay deep passes from the midfield like a No.10.

Do you wonder why he walked straight into Siasia's team right from U17?
Or you wonder why Wolve's coach rushed him into the starting line up just fresh from injury?
Why does Rohr keep insisting on him?

The coaches simply see a technical gem on the training grounds.

He is untested but he is much more of a gem than Onyekuru.

The modern game prefers highly technical guys to those who can sprint all day with with no end result..... because in big and tough games, precision (of passes, shots, crosses, tackles etc) and technicality is what would matter most on the pitch.

Conclusion:
I see what Rohr and other coaches see in Osimhen and I stand with Rohr's decision to include him in the team ahead of Onyekuru whether tested or not.

We have many Onyekurus already (musa, simon etc.......they all play with their head down and final passes lets them down 7 out of 10 times).
But we rarely produce an Osimhen.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:39pm On May 18, 2017
Mickael2:


Nothing special about Onyekuru? Well that's a new one. I was watching his match with a friend, he rightly pointed out that the dude plays like David Villa. Ok, do you know that Villa was once a winger at Barca? Did you ever see him crossing the ball? Do you think that your local 'kick and chase' football is what they do at a professional level, where you just run to the byline and you cross? Oga, his instruction is not to cross the ball, how can you instruct your best player to stay on the wings and be putting in crosses alone when you know how clinical he is? Oga he is not a wide midfielder, he is a wing forward, it's just like expecting Ronaldo or Messi to be putting in crosses when they are in that position, utterly ridiculous.

For me, I will go with a front line of...
Onyekuru/Nacho/Kayode

Iwobi/Onyekuru V. Moses

that boy is too good to be far from our first eleven. Iwobi had better step up because he has been poor and doesn't even deserve to be second choice in that position
take it easy on Iwobi please
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:42pm On May 18, 2017
AllforJesus7:


My point is Osimhen is the gifted type of player. Every coaches' dream. A sharp striker who can lay deep passes from the midfield like a No.10.

Do you wonder why he walked straight into Siasia's team right from U17?
Or you wonder why Wolve's coach rushed him into the starting line up just fresh from injury?
Why does Rohr keep insisting on him?

The coaches simply see a technical gem on the training grounds.

He is untested but he is much more of a gem than Onyekuru.

The modern game prefers highly technical guys to those who can sprint all day with with no end result..... because in big and tough games, precision (of passes, shots, crosses, tackles etc) and technicality is what would matter most on the pitch.

Conclusion:
I see what Rohr and other coaches see in Osimhen and I stand with Rohr's decision to include him in the team ahead of Onyekuru whether tested or not.

We have many Onyekurus already (musa, simon etc.......they all play with their head down and final passes lets them down 7 out of 10 times).
But we rarely produce an Osimhen.
we don't have many Onyekurus, while their playing pattern may be similar, the results are different. That is what sets him apart from Moses S and Musa.

Moses S and Musa will score 4 out of 12 times.

Omyekuru will score 8 out of 12 times.

Same method, different results

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:51pm On May 18, 2017
AllforJesus7:


My point is Osimhen is the gifted type of player. Every coaches' dream. A sharp striker who can lay deep passes from the midfield like a No.10.

Do you wonder why he walked straight into Siasia's team right from U17?
Or you wonder why Wolve's coach rushed him into the starting line up just fresh from injury?
Why does Rohr keep insisting on him?

The coaches simply see a technical gem on the training grounds.

He is untested but he is much more of a gem than Onyekuru.

The modern game prefers highly technical guys to those who can sprint all day with with no end result..... because in big and tough games, precision (of passes, shots, crosses, tackles etc) and technicality is what would matter most on the pitch.

Conclusion:
I see what Rohr and other coaches see in Osimhen and I stand with Rohr's decision to include him in the team ahead of Onyekuru whether tested or not.

We have many Onyekurus already (musa, simon etc.......they all play with their head down and final passes lets them down 7 out of 10 times).
But we rarely produce an Osimhen.

First of all, Onyekuru has been called up.

Second, if you are comparing Onyekuru with Musa or Simon, then you have not watched him.

Musa and Simon are your typical wingers, Onyekuru is not a winger. He has better close control and is a better dribble than both players.

He has 23 goals in his first season in the top flight, Osimhen is simply just good potential now. You can not ignore his goal return.

For several of his goals, he basically dribbled 3 or more players to score. I am sorry that shows a lot of quality. He is by no means perfect but neither is Osimhen.

Onyekuru will start ahead of Osimhen for now in the Eagles side.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:34pm On May 18, 2017
AIG07:
Sir, don't be too quick to make your conclusion on his chances with the Eagles.

Henry is good. No doubt about that. Saying that with his present form he will easily displace some players in SE's starting line up is way too far and too early.

Let's wait and see him play first in the green white green.

Remember some players Club form/success does not often translate to national team. We 've seen amazing so many players with fine forms who can't cut it in their respective national teams.

well he hasn't played for the Eagles yet so how come you've dismissed his chances? Judging purely on present form he is playing better than Nacho assuming we want to play him as our CF, and he is definetly doing better than Iwobi if we want to play him there. If he comes and he disappoints then we will see and judge, simple

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 8:59pm On May 18, 2017
AllforJesus7:


My point is Osimhen is the gifted type of player. Every coaches' dream. A sharp striker who can lay deep passes from the midfield like a No.10.

Do you wonder why he walked straight into Siasia's team right from U17?
Or you wonder why Wolve's coach rushed him into the starting line up just fresh from injury?
Why does Rohr keep insisting on him?

The coaches simply see a technical gem on the training grounds.

He is untested but he is much more of a gem than Onyekuru.

The modern game prefers highly technical guys to those who can sprint all day with with no end result..... because in big and tough games, precision (of passes, shots, crosses, tackles etc) and technicality is what would matter most on the pitch.

Conclusion:
I see what Rohr and other coaches see in Osimhen and I stand with Rohr's decision to include him in the team ahead of Onyekuru whether tested or not.

We have many Onyekurus already (musa, simon etc.......they all play with their head down and final passes lets them down 7 out of 10 times).
But we rarely produce an Osimhen.
no end results?

You are basically talking about another player not onyekuru

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:01pm On May 18, 2017
Mickael2:


well he hasn't played for the Eagles yet so how come you've dismissed his chances? Judging purely on present form he is playing better than Nacho assuming we want to play him as our CF, and he is definetly doing better than Iwobi if we want to play him there. If he comes and he disappoints then we will see and judge, simple
I am not saying Henry will be a disappointment like wise not dismissing his chances but we need to be cautious and lower our expectations on the lad...

Rohr already has a winning team. Which I don't think he'll be altering anytime soon unless a player justifies a need for him to in the starting eleven.
You don't expect the coach to say Iwobi, Nacho you've been warming your clubs bench recently so therefore Henry the 23goals hero is around you need to fasten your seat belt and give way for the new guy... The national team is not run that way.

Henry will have to be tried and tested before been handed a starting birth. Don't forget Henry is still a rookie when it comes to International Football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:04pm On May 18, 2017
Mickael2:


well he hasn't played for the Eagles yet so how come you've dismissed his chances? Judging purely on present form he is playing better than Nacho assuming we want to play him as our CF, and he is definetly doing better than Iwobi if we want to play him there. If he comes and he disappoints then we will see and judge, simple

Did you watch Iwobi's last game? Kid is an absolute baller.. I think, he was just exhausted and the break has done him well.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:08pm On May 18, 2017
The biggest news today is Onyekuru's invite..... grin

I am not surprised at all.... after all, it was just yesterday I said an official Welcome To The Super Eagles, Henry Chukwuemeka Onyekuru..... loooollll


Abeg Yara Yara..... tell Rohr Henry will manage the no.22 shirt or maybe no.9 (since Kayode will miss the corsica game) for now.... since Nacho may stick to 14 and Ndidi wears 21. wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:08pm On May 18, 2017

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:10pm On May 18, 2017
One of the few Next on the list for the Super Eagles..... but his time will surely come.

tbaba1234:
Samuel Kalu Goal


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlpZ0oDbtiQ
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:14pm On May 18, 2017
Osimhen is gifted.... yes.... Onyekuru is gifted.... yes....


But these two are not in competition for places in the team. Osimhen is being groomed for the no.9 role.... Onyekuru is a wing forward.

Osimhen is a lad with huge potentials and is just starting out. He just recently turned 18 for goodness sake. Give the lad a break.

Onyekuru is 19 going on 20 and deserves his call-up as Nigeria's hottest uncapped Prospect in Europe and on the planet. And who says Osimhen is more gifted?? Why compare the skill-sets of a no.9 and a wing forward.... na wa for some people oooo....


Abeg... we need both in the Super Eagles camp. They aren't even in competition with each other... Onyekuru's competition is Victor Moses, Alex Iwobi, Simon Moses and Ahmed Musa....


Hopefully Samuel Kalu grows on and come make it hotter sef.... Osimhen is a 9 with top technical qualities and Rohr has assessed this lad and seen that he is very very very good.. so that alone justifies to some extent his inclusion.... And Osimhen just made his bundesliga debut few months after he clocked 18 and if not for injuries, the debut would have come much sooner.

Rohr is not stupid. He has a good eye on the future too.

So plsss drop the Onyekuru/Osimhen debate.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 9:14pm On May 18, 2017
It marvels me the way some forumites talk down on a players achievement saying onyekuru play against a "water defence", whatever that means. They forget s. Moses play against same defence, Ekong is not seeing game time with such defence. Some say OSimhien is gifted while onyekuru is not, the just run without no end product(23goals). Some people need to fear god

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:15pm On May 18, 2017
Onyekuru Reacts To Super Eagles Call Up, West Ham And Top Scorer Ambition





Hot in demand Nigerian forward Henry Onyekuru has been invited to the senior national team of Nigeria ahead of their friendly game against Corsica.

As exclusively reported by this portal, talks over his invitation old confirmed he has been contacted by the coach to report to the camp of the team, where they will play a game against Corsica Island on the 26th of May.

He is expected to travel with the team to Nigeria for their AFCON 2019 Qualifiers against South Africa on the 10th of June in Uyo as reported by this portal over the weekend.

Onyekuru has 23 goals for Eupen, and his form has led to interest in his service from top clubs in Europe, with West Ham ahead of the likes of Everton after agreeing a fee for his transfer with Eupen.

” I’m elated, over the moon, it has been my dream to play for the Nigeria national team, I was never lucky with the junior teams, to have a chance with the senior team is something extraordinary “, he told Owngoalnigeria.com.


On the issue of West Ham agreeing a deal with Eupen for his transfer in the summer, Onyekuru re- echoed the words of his agent by confirming he will move to England, but didn’t give out the name of the club.

” I will be very honest with you, my dream is to play in England, and this is a chance for me to actualise it, for now I can confirm to you talks are underway for me to achieve my dreams”.


**Ade Emmanuel

Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/05/18/onyekuru-reacts-to-super-eagles-call-up-west-ham-and-top-scorer-ambition/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:21pm On May 18, 2017
AIG07:
I am not saying Henry will be a disappointment like wise not dismissing his chances but we need to be cautious and lower our expectations on the lad...

Rohr already has a winning team. Which I don't think he'll be altering anytime soon unless a player justifies a need for him to in the starting eleven.
You don't expect the coach to say Iwobi, Nacho you've been warming your clubs bench recently so therefore Henry the 23goals hero is around you need to fasten your seat belt and give way for the new guy... The national team is not run that way.

Henry will have to be tried and tested before been handed a starting birth. Don't forget Henry is still a rookie when it comes to International Football.

me I don't understand some people here. judging by your assumption Gomez should still be a starter for Germany because he was there when they won the world cup. Rohr already has a winning team? what have we won? you guys don't seem to understand the meaning of a winning team, we have won just three matches and when we forced a tough opposition against Senegal we didn't win, we don't have a winning team yet,we are still trying to build one. If someone is not performing for his club then he will not perform for his country that's simple logic and it is usually correct, Genk that will probably not win the Belgian league thrashed Tottenham but hey you want to assume that Henry has been playing against amateurs in the Belgian league. Ndidi came into the national team and started performing instantly, I guess people like you will still want onazi to start ahead of Ndidi

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:27pm On May 18, 2017
tbaba1234:


Did you watch Iwobi's last game? Kid is an absolute baller.. I think, he was just exhausted and the break has done him well.

I didn't really watch the match but that's for arsenal, I am talking about the eagles. we need to map out our formation properly, sometimes in between games Iwobi gets confused, he doesn't know if he is still playing as a midfielder or as a wing forward and that's when people start to assume that he has faded, he just doesn't understand the instructions. honestly I myself do.not even understand his position, he should be a LMF, in that case Henry cannot replace him but during our games he is always too close to the opponents box as a wing forward which is why we all assume that Henry can go there and he will enter the middle full time. I think the coach needs to sort that out, this opinion might not be popular here but I agree with that dude that said that Rohr isn't more tactical than our local coaches, just a better man manager
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:33pm On May 18, 2017
Awoniyi with another goal, boy on flames.. Confidence back..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:35pm On May 18, 2017
tbaba1234:
Awoniyi with another goal, boy on flames.. Confidence back..

I told u his day was coming.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:43pm On May 18, 2017
When I was singing Hallelujah after his first goal.... some were too quick to say, "not impressed".... see now... three goals in three games.... Awo got his mojo back. wink


I know what that first goal can do to a player's confidence. Now we may have another huge striker prospect to look forward to in the Eagles if he keeps this up and continues his fine growth and sudden explosion.

Awo is back!


tbaba1234:
Awoniyi with another goal, boy on flames.. Confidence back..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:51pm On May 18, 2017
Arsenal Loanee Nwakali On Target Again, Keeps Promotion Hopes Of Dutch Team Alive




On loan Arsenal midfielder Kelechi Nwakali helped his MVV Maastricht keep up their ambition of qualifying for the top division in Holland by scoring their only goal in the 1-1 draw against Cambuur.

MVV Maastricht are in the Dutch League playoffs where they are eyeing a spot in the top division, and Nwakali got them going as early as the 8th minute of play when he struck the opener.

However his goal was cancelled out in the 17th minute to leave their hope of progressing to the next knock out stage slim ahead of the return leg away to Cambuur next week.

While MVV Maastricht have experienced contrasting fortunes in the league, the form of Nwakali has been very impressive considering the 18 year old is in his first season as a professional footballer.

He has some very poor games but in the games where he has played to his potentials he has thrice picked up man of the match awards for his display for the promotion chasing Dutch team.


**Michael James


Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/05/18/arsenal-loanee-nwakali-on-target-again-keeps-promotion-hopes-of-dutch-team-alive/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 9:52pm On May 18, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
Osimhen is gifted.... yes.... Onyekuru is gifted.... yes....


But these two are not in competition for places in the team. Osimhen is being groomed for the no.9 role.... Onyekuru is a wing forward.

Osimhen is a lad with huge potentials and is just starting out. He just recently turned 18 for goodness sake. Give the lad a break.

Onyekuru is 19 and deserves his call-up. And who says Osimhen is more gifted?? Why compare the skill-sets of a no.9 and a wing forward.... na wa for some people oooo....


Abeg... we need both in the Super Eagles camp. They aren't even in competition with each other... Onyekuru's competition is Victor Moses, Alex Iwobi, Simon Moses and Ahmed Musa....


Hopefully Samuel Kalu grows on and come make it hotter sef.... Osimhen is a 9 with top technical qualities and Rohr has assessed this lad and see that he is very very good so that alone justifies to some extent his inclusion.... And Osimhen just made hia bundesliga debut few months after he clocked 18 and if not for injuries, the debut would have come much soonee.

Rohr is not stupid. He has a good eye on the future too.

So plsss drop the Onyekuru/Osimhen debate.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:55pm On May 18, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
When I was singing Hallelujah after his first goal.... some were too quick to say, "not impressed".... see now... three goals in three games.... Awo got his mojo back. wink


I know what that first goal can do to a player's confidence. Now we may have another huge striker prospect to look forward to in the Eagles if he keeps this up and continues his fine growth and sudden explosion.

Awo is back!



Just watched the goals, what if I say I am still not impressed?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 9:59pm On May 18, 2017
Mickael2:


I didn't really watch the match but that's for arsenal, I am talking about the eagles. we need to map out our formation properly, sometimes in between games Iwobi gets confused, he doesn't know if he is still playing as a midfielder or as a wing forward and that's when people start to assume that he has faded, he just doesn't understand the instructions. honestly I myself do.not even understand his position, he should be a LMF, in that case Henry cannot replace him but during our games he is always too close to the opponents box as a wing forward which is why we all assume that Henry can go there and he will enter the middle full time. I think the coach needs to sort that out, this opinion might not be popular here but I agree with that dude that said that Rohr isn't more tactical than our local coaches, just a better man manager
Rohr is more tactical in my own opinion
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:00pm On May 18, 2017
Does it matter what you think? Awo is scoring.... so biko save being impressed for another case.... loooollll.....




Mickael2:


Just watched the goals, what if I say I am still not impressed?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 10:00pm On May 18, 2017
Mickael2:


Just watched the goals, what if I say I am still not impressed?
it change nothing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 10:03pm On May 18, 2017
Remain Aluko

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 10:05pm On May 18, 2017
I love the recognition onyekuru is getting now, he is showing the evolution of football which doesn't depends on strikers alone to have appetite for goals, onyekuru has an enormous appetite and he is a number 7, guess who else got appetite even though he is not a striker, yes u r right CR7 d legend. if henry keeps up this pace he may well be called Cr7 of Africa.

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