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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:46pm On May 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter:i don't know the conclusion, but we both have observed the same thing. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:49pm On May 20, 2017 |
Nihilist: Of course there is bias in their score unless they use the exact same formula when weighting their total score. That is obvious. If you can post Kante Vs Dembele total score from both sites, that should be able to prove bias from one or the other. Don't lock yourself into argument that can be disproved by exception using one example instantly. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:49pm On May 20, 2017 |
Ibime:how many podium did ozil make despite winning the world cup with Germany? Why then is kdb better when he has not even achieved more than hazard? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:51pm On May 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter:why then did robben not make the podium? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 11:51pm On May 20, 2017 |
Ibime: It is simple, which country do you want Hazard to win the WC with since he started playing, Belgium?? ![]() ![]() ![]() The reason he hasn't won the UCL with Chelsea is obvious for everyone to see, Soccer is a team sport, his team hasn't been good enough to win it, that was why i stated that you can't compare Players like Zidane that won it in a team like Madrid to Chelsea team that have only won it once since the club existed. Hazard will post better stats in a team like Madrid, Bayern, Barca playing alongside great forward in the game not Pedro, Willian, Costa. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:53pm On May 20, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: Stop lying Ribery had 23 assists the season he made the podium |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:53pm On May 20, 2017 |
Greatihex: KDB has the goals/assists total and the creativity and vision for me. The Hazard WPOTY debate is hinged on hoping to win World Cup or Euros which has not happened yet, so as far as I am concerned that is pie in the sky speculation for now. What I have in my hand right now is goals/assists and my personal preference for who I think is more dangerous to opposition. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 11:55pm On May 20, 2017 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:55pm On May 20, 2017 |
Greatihex: Because Robben only played 16 league games that season |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 11:56pm On May 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Lol, Iniesta and Zidane nko? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:56pm On May 20, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: Everyone will post better stats in those teams. The question is can he post Neymar numbers? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 11:58pm On May 20, 2017 |
Ibime: You might be right. Buy can you just post the total score instead of just the attack score for Hazard and Sanchez? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 11:59pm On May 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Have you SEEN Costa waste clear cut chances by Hazard or not? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:01am On May 21, 2017 |
Ibime:you didn't answer that of ozil. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:02am On May 21, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: They won the world cup being regular players star of the team and MOTM in the final |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:02am On May 21, 2017 |
airmark: You better pray Hazard scores tomorrow, if not I am coming for you as per our earlier debate. I left you alone earlier because you tried to obfuscate the debate when the numbers showed clear bias in your Squawka rating. I left it to see if Hazard scores tomorrow or not, so you will have no wiggle room to muddy the debate. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:02am On May 21, 2017 |
Cypmeni: Seriously, I don't know what these two people want to turn themselves to on nairaland. Hazard has made top 7/8 in Ballon D'or rating without high number of goals/assists nor even UCL final sef, look at him bringing Ross Barkley into the discourse. What has Ross won in his life, who recognises him. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:03am On May 21, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: WHich striker hasnt wasted clear cut chances created by a midfielder? Has Costa not wasted chances created by Fabregas? So why does Fabregas have more assists than Hidden That can only mean Fabregas constantly delivers quality assists while Hidden most time just lumps the ball and hopes Costa does something with it 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:03am On May 21, 2017 |
Nihilist: You want trap me abi? No I've already provided proof of concept with Kante and Dembele example. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:03am On May 21, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Playing for a better team than Chelsea. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:05am On May 21, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Why does Hazard has more Chances created than Fabregas? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Cypmeni(m): 12:06am On May 21, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: You are 1of the people I respect here because of ur knowledge of the game 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 12:06am On May 21, 2017 |
raumdeuter: A third of Costa's goals this season have come from set pieces which the likes of Fabregas and Willian take. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:07am On May 21, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: Because Fabregas is selective about his passes waits for the right run that will increase the chance of scoring while Hidden just does like Zaha |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:08am On May 21, 2017 |
Nihilist: Fabregas doesnt even start regularly this season, How many goals did Costa score directly from Fabregas set piece this season |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:09am On May 21, 2017 |
Ibime: That's left to be seen. I have told y'all, its either Hazard joins Madrid or Conte gets a reliable striker, attacker and midfielder to ease Chelsea's burden off Hazard. This season, Hazard was more dangerous to Man city than De bryune was to Chelsea. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:11am On May 21, 2017 |
Ibime:did iniesta post neymar numbers to make the podium? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 12:12am On May 21, 2017 |
raumdeuter: I cba to do a full breakdown but Fab has assisted Costa 4 times in the league this season, Matic 3. And 6 of Costa's goals are from set piece. I'm sure at least 2 of those set piece goals are from Matic flickons. Maybe in the morning I'll go and review the tapes on YouTube |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:13am On May 21, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Hazard scored beautiful point-winning goals against ALL the big teams this season, Arsenal, Spurs, Man city, Man utd, Liverpool, Everton. There is a reason he has been the only attacker with a guaranteed spot in the team since he joined. He doesn't do like Zaha at all. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:15am On May 21, 2017 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 12:17am On May 21, 2017 |
Ibime: You should have just stuck to that Kante v Dembrle argument instead if trying to play a fast one in the Hazard discussion. Of course, each site has it's own subjective metrics and bias, but if they were unanimous about Hazard being better than Sanchez thus far thus season, then it sends a very loud message. Ibime I wish Hazard leaves Chelsea for Madrid today so that he can catch a serviceable Ororo. You will see what the boy is made of. That dude can be foolish sometimes BUT I have no doubt in my mind that he can do better than Neymar with the right supporting cast. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:17am On May 21, 2017 |
Ibime: Trust me, i know your antics. It's DOA. What do you have to say about dayo's whoscored rating? May be you need to forward KDB's goals+assists to dayo to help you deliver his data to them. |
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