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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:25pm On May 24, 2017 |
freshest4live:no it says there agreement is a bloc to bloc agreement and must be ractify by all members of ECowas as a bloc. Even Togo can hold it up if they dont ractify the agreement |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:26pm On May 24, 2017 |
Legonviking:You must be Ghanaian.The rot of the Rawlings years sent many Ghanaians to Nigeria.I grew up with Ghanaians in Ibadan.Ghana and Nigeria are joined at the waist.At times I don't understand the rivalry between our two countries. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:46pm On May 24, 2017 |
NairobiWalker: Must you insult someone to prove your point? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:50pm On May 24, 2017 |
NairobiWalker: Nigeria's HDI was largely affected by the decades of military rule. We are not so much perturbed about HDI, because it is sometimes unrealistic. And we also know that larger countries are always at a disadvantage when it comes to HDI. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:51pm On May 24, 2017 |
NairobiWalker: Kiberawalker, just shut up and behave like a civilized human for once, will you? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:52pm On May 24, 2017 |
forgiveness: Abi oo, tuale for u sha. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ababda: 7:53pm On May 24, 2017 |
TayserMahiri: The official language in Sudan is "Arabic". Although English is also a official but it is rarely taught in the village level in local schools, but you may find some people here in there in some villages that may speak english. Most learn english in secondary school or some well off people send their kids to private or international school. They also have schools in Khartoum that teach a multitude of different languages, and since they are trying to attract people to visit things such as these [img]https://eesamarawestexpedition.files./2015/08/aw-pict-38-39-a182.jpg[/img] Dinder national park Port Sudan so this can create jobs, and needed income with more tourist which means more people that can communicate in a multitude of different languages. Due to the Sudan bad image we get far less tourist than our neighbor in both Egypt and Ethiopia, but it is starting to increase gradually, but we have to market it right. It is like we have tourist elements of both North and Sub Saharan Africa, i think the combinations make it a unique travel experience. We should make port Sudan very tourist friendly like the Egyptians did for the Sinai. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iamord(m): 7:57pm On May 24, 2017 |
Legonviking:school of thought. do you know that Ghana had More millionaires in achempobg time than in Rawlings. this is not to criticize the house cleaning exercise but I think was a lot of witch hunting that could have been avoided in the process. there were great Ghanaian owned companies that should have been sustained till now. am talking about the likes of rothmans cigrattes, the first cigratte company in West Africa.I bet people dont know that this brand was owed by a Ghanaian before he got his property conifscated. and sold off to bat.the nsawam cannery etc. I think in the process of the house cleaning he damages the entepreneurial spirit of well meaning Ghanaians to an extent 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 7:58pm On May 24, 2017 |
obaaderemi:Lol it seems to me that many Ghanians believe we are all not trustworthy, criminals,419, etc. We Nigerians are also described by not just Ghanians but southafricans and blackamericans as loud and arrogant, this is the one that baffles me the most, loud in what way? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 8:04pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse:Yeah even the Indian HDI is too low by its' standards, just 0.609. Kenya is 0.548 with Nigeria lurking at 0.523. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 8:09pm On May 24, 2017 |
Isahalbash: Hmm, interesting. No wonder you can speak pidgin quite well and display some southern traits. I also live in the South too, infact i was born in Delta state. My father works with NNPC and was transferred to the south. What brought you to the south?? Are you for real? Though i don't really know much about the demographics of northerners in Lagos state, but in the SS/SE, you hardly find people from Kano, Jigawa or Kaduna doing menial jobs. Most of the core-northerners doing those are usually from Sokoto, Zamfara and sometimes Katsina. You can only find the former trading. The Kanuris from Borno do wristwatches. Both core-northerners and middlebelters do mai guard and okada. ...... The only difference btw the poor core-northerners and middlebelters in the south is that most poor middlebelters who leave their villages to the South do so after finishing secondary schools. While most core-northerners never went to school. Let me ask you, sincerely, do you see core-northerners changing and bridging the educational gap in Nigeria in the nearest future 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:16pm On May 24, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:You are a regular Jekyll and Hyde case,Tayser.One moment you are lucid,another moment you derail completely like an indian train.Do you people just argue for the heck of it?BTW,India's percapital is lower than nigeria's percapital but like it's expected,higher than kenya's percapita.Develop your economy and stop being a $70bn economy for 40m ppl.Why should bumbling India have a higher HDI than a supposedly well run smaller kenya?just curious. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 8:17pm On May 24, 2017 |
freshest4live:i was using germany. You said it doesnt make sense. Now i use south korea. You said it is wrong. Well south korea suffer the same hardship any african state pass through during colonization . It is even worst as some scholar put it. 57 years is enough to turn things around. use malaysia, singapore and south korea as a case study. Ghana can also be blame too but it seems it perform better than nigeria when it comes to citizen welfare considering nigeria big population and abundant natural resources. she should have reached a develop world category even before the aforemention countries. you need to note oil was not discover by the colonial master.it was discover by nigeria goverment when oil was at is boom perioud. nigeria had all the chance then to utilise all the goodies for her own advantage. nigeria then had a good income from cocoa and timber which was use to build nigeria first mordarn city. lagos and ibadan. So what stop the development now comparing to how it started ealier after independence. It is now sluggish and may be worst in some state apart from state capital. as i said earlier. blaming colonializm for our ordeal at this stage is a prove to show we are not serious. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 8:27pm On May 24, 2017 |
Isahalbash: First of all, what is the major difference btw Zarma and Buzu? I always see them to be the same. I seem to see you hinting about Zarma/buzus from Kebbi/Sokoto. Are there Zarma/buzu indigenous communities in Nigeria?? I never tot there were, If yes, can you help me list them if you know them? Seriously, these Zarma people from Niger republic, i don't understand them at all. How come most beggars from Niger republic are buzu/Zarma whereas a lot of them are rich people changing dollars?? Yes, we all know of their diabolism and unpure ways, but how come do these people manage to mix islam and such diabolism?? Also, i think this clustering together of northerners in one place in the south should be discouraged. It usually makes them easy targets in case of crises. See the case of Ile-ife. It also helps to breed some level of unruliness and extremism among the youths, thinking that they are now large in numbers and can thus challenge their hosts. Apart from maybe the Nupes, those of us from middlebelt/Taraba/Adamawa and Southern kaduna, we hardly live in ethnic clusters in the South, and this helps us integrate with the southerners better and develop ourselves. You may not share my views, but you can see that i have a point here. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 8:28pm On May 24, 2017 |
Hati13:Yes the y are bantu origin people. Swahili is in this strange category called Niger Congo. Those are academic definitions. Nobody goes around claiming Niger Congo identity. In Africa, many people identify themselves with their tribes first, religion second and football third! 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:40pm On May 24, 2017 |
MtuMsuper:Definitely true. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:43pm On May 24, 2017 |
mtis:OK |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 8:44pm On May 24, 2017 |
vaxx:You have misunderstood my argument, l'm not saying Nigeria isn't living under her weight or saying the British caused all problems, but rather you can't compare Nigeria's foundation to that of western countries and not even to south Korea. Japan colonizing south Korea is child's play, they are still alike and understand themselves better than the Nigerian- British relationship. You are also making excuses for Ghana, there are smaller countries in Europe doing much better than Ghana and with lesser resources, by your logic, this shouldn't be so. Resources do not make nations but education and ideas. Congo has far more resources than we have, l also used to think Ghana was called the gold coast because of gold correct me if l'm wrong though. So my point is you give Ghana far too many excuses if we are to go by your standard against Nigeria and you underrate the continual effect of colonialism especially from the French on the continent. There was a time ECOWAS was about introducing Eco as the only currency for west African states, the francophone nations kicked against it, because they valued the French currency, Nigeria had no power to face the French who would never easily give up her colonies completely and so the idea was abandoned. This is why l say Africa is still colonized indirectly and the comparison with South Korea is out of place. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 8:45pm On May 24, 2017 |
ababda:Sir, are you from North Sudan ? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:47pm On May 24, 2017 |
PissedYagami:Nairobi OK ooo |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 8:50pm On May 24, 2017 |
freshest4live:Wow! I am still not believing this is you. You are spot on all the way here. Oga, we all need sense like a camel in the desert needs water! I especially agree with you on the negative French influence in West Africa. It pains me. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:50pm On May 24, 2017 |
mtis:wat is dis one saying |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 8:54pm On May 24, 2017 |
@Ishalbash You will agree with me that this northern culture of manyan mutane & talakawa (rich & poor) is killing northern Nigeria. Southerners are developing a very strong and viable middle-class population. And you can see the way they are dominating most sectors of the country apart from politics. Rich northerners have been the problem of the north as they seem to be very uninterested in developing the northern masses. I am not against religion but it bleeds my heart to see Zamfara or Bauchi state governments organising Koranic recitation competitions and building more mosques whereas you will never find them organizing science and learning competitions, skill acquisition programs for the youth or building schools. Kudos to northern governors like Ibrahim Dankwambo of Gombe state for changing that destructive mentality of most northern leaders. You can clearly see that the middlebelt people are rapidly leaving that destructive culture, by embracing education more and if the core-northerners do not catch up, both the core-north and middlebelt will be forever divided. One thing that most northern leaders do not know is that evil always backfires. The more these northern leaders keep on leaving their people in backwardness and the Southerners get wealthier, the more the poorer northerners will keep on migrating to the South for greener pastures. Southerners will keep on using northerners as 'slaves'. It is already happening. By the time all the indigenes of northern states have left to the South, who will these northern leaders rule?? Southern states will keep on having a higer Internal revenue and that 'Southernization' or Southern acculturization of Nigeria which northern leaders have been trying to fight since the time of the Sardauna will still take place! What can you say about this? 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:56pm On May 24, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:looooll its not by having oil, cos Congo has more oil than Nigeria but how much us their GDP dude thank ur God Kenya does not have oil |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:56pm On May 24, 2017 |
Kiberawalker, just shut up and behave like a civilized human for once, will you?[/quote]That specimen you just quoted and civilization are mutually exclusive.Like oil and water.He argues like his life depends on it and cries like a banshee when beaten.He stands out for his obnoxiousness which you must have noticed. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 9:00pm On May 24, 2017 |
freshest4live: Seriously, karma will keep on punishing France for keeping French west Africa in darkness. The bombings they are experiencing now will be child's play compared to what they will experience in the future. They act as if they so much value their former french colonies, but how have they helped them to develop themselves?? French west African countries still dominate the list of the poorest and hopeless in the world. Selfish white witches playing with the destinies of millions of people. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 9:04pm On May 24, 2017 |
NairobiWalker:You Nailed it Bro. reasoning with this guys |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 9:05pm On May 24, 2017 |
uzzyfire:Lol, how many developed nations have oil? Nigeria was doing better before oil, our talents showed in various sectors within that short period, we were diversified. But the oil came and with money and the good life, we relaxed. Corruption today was magnified on a larger scale partly due to this oil bloom. With the greed of politicians, the economy sank, but those at the top kept looting, many youths began to believe it is all man for himself, it doesn't matter as long as you make the money. In my opinion Nigeria with our population would have been much better without oil, if we had achieved political stability also. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by popizaino(m): 9:06pm On May 24, 2017 |
iamord:I heard Rawlings wife bought nsawam cannery how true is that? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 9:11pm On May 24, 2017 |
MtuMsuper: A good thing you share in the pain, but yours is child's play compared to ours. I am so pained that i can kill someone for this Do you know how painful it is seeing people from countries like Niger republic in Nigeria living on the streets? Children, babies, todlers, women. Infact. It's sad. It's not like Nigerians, Ghanaians and other Anglophone west Africans do not have suffering people, just that our cases are very hopeful and we are making more progress. Apart from Ivory Coast, no other francophone west african country seems to be making any reasonable progress and these bastard white french witches will never allow the unification of Ecowas (that will help these francophone people). It's just sad. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:12pm On May 24, 2017 |
Nowenuse:But in which ways were the British better than the french as colonisers in Africa?Our people need to stop using colonisation as an excuse and move on.Morocco,Algeria and Tunisia were also colonised by france but are doing quite well today.Algeria suffered seriously at the hand of france but finally pushed out france. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 9:24pm On May 24, 2017 |
obaaderemi:Nobody is using colonization as an excuse, nobody is saying we shouldn't move on, my point is that Africa is growing slowly but steadily, if we can achieve political stability and unite for the common good with better institutions to fight corruption. The point we are making is that subsaharan Africa is not totally free from the French. I do not know whom to blame for this, Africa or Frances? I blame both. For example l do not know who to blame for Cameroon's situation even though they claim to be bilingual like Canada. Do we blame Biya or Frances? Both of course. |
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