That is for most English players today... But come on The EPL has also produced World class English players... who just never could win a title as a team... England as a team na wash.


But the EPL has produced both English and non-English World class players...

safarigirl:
in defence of the EPL, I doubt any other league has produced world class English players. Na English players no dey be world class, no be the league fault

TheSuperNerd:
Didn't even sew the last question...

but what kinda question is that sef?

Are you saying the EPL do not produce world class players??

Whether English and non-english??

Lampard... Gerrard... Rio Ferdinand... Steve McManaman... David Beckham.... Paul Scholes... Michael Owen... Ian Rush... Kenny Dalglish... Kevin Keegan... I can go all night Baby!!!

So now answer my question dammit!!!

Ligue 1 over the EPL or the EPL over ligue 1... which one??

You know we could do this as well with Ligue un?? Makelele, Zidane, Henry, Thuram, Trezeguet, Anelka, Petit, Lizarazu, I can also go all day with this as well.

But I have answered about two sprouted questions of yours and you havent even answered mine despite me being the first to ask you....

Na wa.... na so dem dey do for your place? I go bite you ooo...

Answer me osiso!!!

edi287:

Do we see world class players from Ligue Un, Yes or No? Answer my one first na

BascoVanVeli:


Mbappe is a freak of nature, he is a boy built like a man. But when it comes to putting the ball in the net and creating goals, Nacho is truly on another level.

Creating goals, Yes, Finishing?? Not too sure. Mbappe runs are crazy. His composure is just as good as Nacho. It's a toss either way for me.

TheSuperNerd:
But I have answered about two sprouted questions of yours and you havent even answered mine despite me being the first to ask you....

Na wa.... na so dem dey do for your place? I go bite you ooo...

Answer me osiso!!!

Ndo, no bite me. Epl is a better league than Ligue un. Doesn't mean Nacho is more talented...that's my point.

Stop going around in circles and just answer...
Both leagues produce world class players okay... no one is saying otherwise...

But is the Ligue 1 on the same level as the EPL??

Abeg help me nail the answer... and why do these world class players from France run to Spain and England most times??

Answer the first qiestion... the latter question just came to mind now... hehehehehe.

edi287:

You know we could do this as well with Ligue un?? Makelele, Zidane, Henry, Thuram, Trezeguet, Anelka, Petit, Lizarazu, I can also go all day with this as well.

safarigirl:


If Kelechi was reading these arguments, he will just be saying "Chineke, onye ka'm bu?"

He might know of this thread coz i once tweeted it to him

The moment a Babylonian says the Ligue 1 defences are stronger than the EPL defences.

TheSuperNerd:

Stop going around in circles and just answer...
Both leagues produce world class players okay... no one is saying otherwise...

But is the Ligue 1 on the same level as the EPL??

Abeg help me nail the answer... and why do these world class players from France run to Spain and England most times??

Answer the first qiestion... the latter question just came to mind now... hehehehehe.

Money perhaps?? You think players leave Bundesliga and LA liga for epl just because it's the "toughest" league in the world??

I never said Nacho was more talented... see? Sew what I am saying?

I was only saying that Mbappe is not entirely better than Nacho on an overall level... What started this debate is saying Mbappe is far better than Nacho... I am saying that is not true... They are practically on the same scale and level with each having what makes them both special...

But you guys were so out to show that Lord Mbappe lives in a universe so stars spangled and sparking with stardust light years away from Nacho...... as if that is true...

Nacho has done and proven himself special in the planet's toughest League... Martial came and his hype died down... but Nacho's reputation is still intact and when he gets his smooth and consistent run of games.. the world will see what a star he truly is...

Ligue 1 is not the EPL.... show respect for Nacho.

edi287:

Ndo, no bite me. Epl is a better league than Ligue un. Doesn't mean Nacho is more talented...that's my point.

Better My Good man... thank you!


I never said Nacho was more talented... see? See what I am saying?

I was only saying that Mbappe is not entirely better than Nacho on an overall level... What started this debate is saying Mbappe is far better than Nacho... I am saying that is not true... They are practically on the same scale and level with each having what makes them both special...

But you guys were so out to show that Lord Mbappe lives in a universe so stars spangled and sparking with stardust light years away from Nacho...... as if that is true...

Nacho has done and proven himself special in the planet's toughest League... Martial came and his hype died down... but Nacho's reputation is still intact and when he gets his smooth and consistent run of games.. the world will see what a star he truly is...

Ligue is not the EPL.... show respect for Nacho.

edi287:

Ndo, no bite me. Epl is a better league than Ligue un. Doesn't mean Nacho is more talented...that's my point.

TheGoodJoe:
The moment a Babylonian says the Ligue 1 defences are stronger than the EPL defences.

Never said that. I said the difference in physicality isn't that large since someone said something about how physical the epl is.

binhozie:


Only Barca, madrid defenders and Godin and maybe some few others are the real threat for a very good striker, the premier league has top defenders scattered in the top 8 teams and beyond look at someone like fonte languishing in Sunderland or where self
Someone like Savic cannot start for Leicester self

I know you're saying epl defence is stronger than laliga because cr7, suarez and messi score 30+ consistently.
But you have to understand that they are not your regular every day players.

Look at the runner ups. The strikers manage 20,19,17 goals.
That gives you alot to ponder regarding the "defence"

I hope you get my point

edi287:

You know we could do this as well with Ligue un?? Makelele, Zidane, Henry, Thuram, Trezeguet, Anelka, Petit, Lizarazu, I can also go all day with this as well.

Most of those players mentioned did not become world class while still in France.

TheSuperNerd:
Better My Good man... thank you!


I never said Nacho was more talented... see? See what I am saying?

I was only saying that Mbappe is not entirely better than Nacho on an overall level... What started this debate is saying Mbappe is far better than Nacho... I am saying that is not true... They are practically on the same scale and level with each having what makes them both special...

But you guys were so out to show that Lord Mbappe lives in a universe so stars spangled and sparking with stardust light years away from Nacho...... as if that is true...

Nacho has done and proven himself special in the planet's toughest League... Martial came and his hype died down... but Nacho's reputation is still intact and when he gets his smooth and consistent run of games.. the world will see what a star he truly is...

Ligue is not the EPL.... show respect for Nacho.

You can't say Martial hype died down when he hasn't played as much this season. Man united bought Mkhitaryan and Ibra. He has more competition start of the season than Nacho did. As for Mbappe, he has done well in the ucl. He scored against big teams, you can't say he hasn't faces stern opposition. So no, they aren't at the same level. Mbappe is better.

safarigirl:
I dunno about Iwobi, It was Iheanacho's own that pissed me off for obvious reasons. I wanted Iwobi as a sub, not a starter. The criticism was for not playing them at all despite the fact that they put in a good shift for the first leg

Siasia did not even have decent players to fill in for them. Like someone said last year "Siasia go dey play boys wey suppose dey sell toothpaste inside traffic for field"

POLITICS.

tbaba1234:


Most of those players mentioned did not become world class while still in France.

True, but they came from the French league.

TheSuperNerd:

I never said Nacho was more talented... see? Sew what I am saying?

I was only saying that Mbappe is not entirely better than Nacho on an overall level... What started this debate is saying Mbappe is far better than Nacho... I am saying that is not true... They are practically on the same scale and level with each having what makes them both special...

But you guys were so out to show that Lord Mbappe lives in a universe so stars spangled and sparking with stardust light years away from Nacho...... as if that is true...

Nacho has done and proven himself special in the planet's toughest League... Martial came and his hype died down... but Nacho's reputation is still intact and when he gets his smooth and consistent run of games.. the world will see what a star he truly is...

Ligue is not the EPL.... show respect for Nacho.

Mbappe has insane numbers for a 18 year old. Show him some respect. His ucl performance was crazy. Ligue un is not a farmers league.

Bundesliga and LA Liga are the Two best leagues when it comes to Technical quality and some more....

The EPL is second to them both... or lemme say Third overall.

Yeah money is a factor... but also these three leagues boasts of the highest volume of the truly top teams in Europe and in the world today...

From Real Madrid to Barcelona to Bayern Munich to Manchester Utd to Chelsea to Atletico Madrid to Sevilla to Manchester city to Borussia Dortmund to Liverpool to Borussia Mochen Gladbach to Tottenham to a few others.... big guns they are...

And they all interchange players among themselves sometimes... If I include Serie A, We will also have Juventus, Roma, Intermilan, Ac Milan, Lazio... top guns.


So that prestige and better competitiveness is also a huge factor.

edi287:

Money perhaps?? You think players leave Bundesliga and LA liga for epl just because it's the "toughest" league in the world??

I already told you I see Kylian at real madrid... isn't that enough respect for you to see?

I rate him highly.

But biko... Let the words praising Kylian not be overstretched just to put him overly ahead of Nacho when Nacho himself has insane records and stats too all made in the EPL.....

And nope... ligue 1 is no farmers league... and I never said that.. I never called it that... better go find who used that word... I only said Ligue 1 is not and never in the same class and competitive quality as the EPL... Chikena.. that was all I said.

edi287:

Mbappe has insane numbers for a 18 year old. Show him some respect. His ucl performance was crazy. Ligue un is not a farmers league.

edi287:

True, but they came from the French league.

So the French League produces potential... Potential does not always become world class. Eg Djbril Cisse. EPL has created more world class players.

tbaba1234:


So the French League produces potential... Potential does not always become world class. EPL has created more world class players.

They leave the French league before they get to fulfill that potential into World class ability. So again, you are sort of right.

When Nacho got his little shot in the UCl... he took it with both hands.. he scored two goals... one as a seven mins cameo performer and the other in as a starter against Celtic.

Nacho's competition was Aguero and Gabby J... and even at some point Kevin de bruyne and Sterling... coz Pep will play them as false 9. So who had it tougher? Nacho or martial? Come on... let's be fair...

Mbappe did well in the UCL yes... When Nacho was given his shot in the UCL... he also delivered...scored in the two games he featured in. Why ignore that?

and no Mbappe is not better... Nacho and Mbappe are within the same range in overall quality right now....

edi287:

You can't say Martial hype died down when he hasn't played as much this season. Man united bought Mkhitaryan and Ibra. He has more competition start of the season than Nacho did. As for Mbappe, he has done well in the ucl. He scored against big teams, you can't say he hasn't faces stern opposition. So no, they aren't at the same level. Mbappe is better.

This debate has so many channels 1 mbappe vs iheanacho 2 epl vs french league 3 sane vs mbappe 4 rashford vs iwobi 5 g jesus vs iheanacho 6 henry vs mbappe and so on i am confuse on which one to pick i will just continue watching in 3D like sir icon4s

He is absolutely right! Not sort of...

So you see parts of where I was coming from as regards why they leave Ligue 1 to the EPL, Serie A and Bundesliga and even LA Liga...

edi287:

They leave the French league before they get to fulfill that potential into World class ability. So again, you are sort of right.

Hahahahahahahahaha.... crazy dude.... Sew as you just define the channels... Which channel are you enjoying by the way? Which are you tuned in to?

maidaboi:
This debate has so many channels
1 mbappe vs iheanacho
2 epl vs french league
3 sane vs mbappe
4 rashford vs iwobi
5 g jesus vs iheanacho
6 henry vs mbappe
and so on
i am confuse on which one to pick
i will just continue watching in 3D like sir icon4s

TheSuperNerd:

When Nacho got his little shot in the UCl... he took it with both hands.. he scored two goals... one as a seven mins cameo performer and the other in as a starter against Celtic.

Nacho's competition was Aguero and Gabby J... and even at some point Kevin de bruyne and Sterling... coz Pep will play them as false 9. So who had it tougher? Nacho or martial? Come on... let's be fair...

Mbappe did well in the UCL yes... When Nacho was given his shot in the UCL... he also delivered...scored in the two games he featured in. Why ignore that?

and no Mbappe is not better... Nacho and Mbappe are within the same range in overall quality right now....

I'm tired of this argument.Ok why did Pep play Debruyne and Sterling as a False 9 in the first place?? At the start of the season, Aguero and MAYBE Nolito were Nacho competition. Infact, Aguero was Nacho only competition start of the season. No one is denying Martial had a poor seaon, but he wasn't a regular.

TheSuperNerd:

He is absolutely right! Not sort of...

So you see parts of where I coming from as regards why they leave Ligue 1 to the EPL, Serie A and Bundesliga and even LA Liga...

No he is sort of. If they all stayed, wouldn't you think the league would be stronger? Ligue un exports more talents than epl...are we even arguing this? Money is the only thing that let's epl talents stay and develop into world class levels.

Well that first question is simple.... it is because Pep didn't trust Nacho enough. Even after Nacho's early season performances in Aguero's absence, Pep just sent him to the bench and then out of matchday squads altogether. It was a matter of trust.... not ability.

edi287:

I'm tired of this argument.Ok why did Pep play Debruyne and Sterling as a False 9 in the first place?? At the start of the season, Aguero and MAYBE Nolito were Nacho competition. Infact, Aguero was Nacho only competition start of the season. No one is denying Martial had a poor seaon, but he wasn't a regular.

Hmmm... I kinda doubt that coz the most concentration of the best and finest coaches are not in Ligue 1.

So he is absolutely right.

edi287:

No he is sort of. If they all stayed, wouldn't you think the league would be stronger? Ligue un exports more talents than epl...are we even arguing this? Money is the only thing that let's epl talents stay and develop into world class levels.

safarigirl:
Pep is a bald-headed continentalist idiot who was exposed for the fraud he is in the EPL. Pep can have G Jesus, Neymar and Mbappe on his team and he still won't win jack.

That says a lot of his eye for talent

Wawu...

TheSuperNerd:
Hahahahahahahahaha.... crazy dude.... Sew as you just define the channels... Which channel are you enjoying by the way? Which are you tuned in to?

the one that shoot us into 1000
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