mtis:
but they already done it with the oil thingy...

CocoMilian:


I wonder which part of Kenya for him to say that. Or he hasn't adventured yet.

NairobiWalker:


I don't think it's about not seeing the good places. I think he's just a bitter loser. He's been bitter towards Kenyans on this thread since day one. Everything good he gives credit to foreigners and he completely has nothing good to say about Kenyans. He's probably into some illegal business and gets bitter every time the Kenyan authorities are on him.

genieluv:



Heeey buddy, are you sure you are not misleading TayserMahiri & muafrika2?

I am from Benue state by origin (the Tiv homeland) and most Tivs accept and believe that they are of Bantu origins. yaah they do.
**** We the Idomas, Igedes, Yalas, Jukuns, Etulos, Kutebs, Alagos, Agatus and all the other ethnic groups neighbouring the Tivs in Benue, Taraba, Nasarawa and Cross river states are all from Kwararafa Kingdom by origin except the Tivs.

I studied all these histories about my people in the university.

The Tivs came with a strong wave of migration from Congo area, (i think during the fall of the Kwararafa kingdom), and that was how they came to displace most of us the Kwararafan tribes, coupled with their high birth rates and expansionist lifestyles, they even cut off the Etulo people from Idomas and have almost culturally absorbed them today.

The Tivs are Bantu expansionist just like their other Bantu cousins who expanded and occupied almost the whole Africa, absorbing anyone on their way, that is why you see them fighting the Jukuns and other neighbouring ethnic groups in the middlebelt.

Nowenuse:


genieluv gave you a good explanation about the Tivs. I also agree with her.

Bantoid languages are under the Benue-Congo sub-group of the Niger-congo.
I don't see how that negates the Bantu origins of the Tivs, considering that the Bantus themselves migrated from that same Benue-congo region.

I think the Tivs obviously migrated eastwards to Benue axis of Nigeria from the Congo region at the time of the Bantu expansion.
As someone from the middlebelt too who has once shared the same state with the Tivs, it's true, most Kwararafan tribes neighbouring the Tivs describe the Tivs as expansionists and visitors to the Benue area. You don't know how much hatred many middlebelt tribes have for the Tivs until you visit Taraba, Benue and Southern Nasarawa. That Bantu expansionist blood runs in their veins and is part of their culture.

Jukuns and all Idomoid groups were neighbours before the Tivs came and cut them off. Infact the Agatus and Alagos (Idomoid groups) are still neighbours with Jukuns in Nasarawa state.

Marcelo290:
hmmm... I heard you bro, some of your countrymen here make very annoying comments which can make one tempted to fire back, the tsayemahiri of a dude is cool one time, the next moment he throws tantrums, I promise not to post anything unless occasion calls for it.

genieluv:
***More Nigerian 1st grade movies
All these movies are premiered, featured and aired in blockbusters n cinemas.


Yah beebee it does **** PissedYagami, you will enjoy these ones, not just the maids anymore.

genieluv:


Buh i thot the Tigrayans were a minority in Ethiopia?
How can they be dominating the Oromos n amharas?

PissedYagami:

Can't watch a Nigerian movie genieluv. When you start producing sci-fi movies tag me. Plus your accents are a huge turn off

forgiveness:



It is high time I burst some bubbles.

Nairobi is the Africa headquarters of international organizations claims.


They said Nigeria doesn't have Regional international organization headquarters but we told we are building our own world international organizations in Nigeria with headquarters in Lagos.


However, out of the 58 international companies or agencies sited in Nairobi, 30 are East and SubSaharan Africa regional headquarters while only 22 are Africa regional headquarters.

Nevertheless, out of the same list, I counted 26 international companies or agencies with their West and Africa regional headquarters in Lagos.

Since, that is all they have, Lagos will dust Nairobi if we count all the west/Africa regional headquarters in Lagos such as banks, Oil companies, manufacturing companies etc.

This is all the international companies with headquarters in Nigeria. I numbered the companies with West Africa/Africa headquarters in Lagos.

1, Asus Lagos West Africa
AVIC International
2, BASF Lagos West Africa
Bank of China
Bharti Airtel Lagos West Africa
United Nations
3, BlackBerry Ltd Lagos West Africa
4, Bosch Lagos West Africa
5, Cisco Systems Lagos West Africa
Chartis
China-Africa Development Fund
China Central Television
China Daily CBD Africa
China Radio International

6, Citibank Lagos West Africa

7, Coca-Cola Lagos West Africa (31 countries). Nairobi no longer host the Africa headquarters. Nairobi office is just the East/South Africa headquarter.

8, Diageo Lagos West Africa
9, Eltek Lagos West Africa

FirstCarbon Solutions
GEMS Education

10, General Electric Lagos West Africa

Google Africa headquarter not in Nairobi.
GSM Association?


11, Heineken Lagos West Africa

Hill International

12, Huawei Lagos West Africa. Nairobi is not the East Africa regional headquarters.
Ha

13, IBM Lagos West Africa. the Africa headquarter is not in Nairobi.

ICAO

IMF
14, Intel Corporation Lagos West Africa

ITF
IUCN
15, Jotun Lagos West Africa

16, Kaspersky Lab Lagos West Africa

Kiva

17, LG Lagos West Africa/Africa?

18, MasterCard Lagos West Africa

Merck KGaA Africa and East Africa headquarter are not in Nairobi

Mitsubishi Motors Africa headquarter is not in Nairobi

19, Motorola Solutions Lagos West Africa

Nestlé Central and West Africa regional headquarters are not in Nairobi.

NIIT
21, Nokia Lagos West Africa

Nokia Research Hub

Panalpina

22, Pfizer Industrial Lagos Africa headquarter
23, Pricewaterhouse Coopers Lagos West Africa

24, Qualcomm Lagos West Africa

Rockefeller Foundation

Red Cross

25, RTI International Lagos West Africa

Sage Group

Scania AB
Sony
26, Standard Chartered Bank West Africa. Africa headquarter is not in Nairobi.?

Stockholm Environment Institute
Stratlink Global
TNT
Toyota
Visa Inc.
World Bank
Xinhua News Agency


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_and_organizations_based_in_Nairobi

freshest4live:

It's funny, because to me we are the only ones with a clear accent except the English speaking countries. I get turned off by the Indian Southern African, Eastern African and Ghanian accents.

vaxx:
trust me ghanian english accent is a plus in nigeria.

9jakool:


No, I have no interest. I'm basing my conclusion directly off of science and oral history.

Kwararafa was a 16th century confederacy of ethnic groups in the Benue-Taraba region. Most cross river people do not come from Kwararafa, unless the few from the border. Cross river groups like Ejagham are closer linguistically to Tivs and they speak closely related language. How come the Ejagham aren't from Congo. Let me go further. In fact, according to linguistic evidence a long time ago the Ejagham and the Tivs once spoke the same language known as Southern Bantoid. Ejagham are very ancient West African people that invented one if the few indigenous writing system on the continent dating as far back as 2,000 YEARS ago. Have you ever heard of the Ikom monoliths. Bantu groups didn't migrate from Congo, It's the other way around since Bantu migrated from the border of Nigeria and Cameroon to the rest of Africa. Scientists have documented a lot of evidence for the bantu migration from the edge of West Africa to the rest of Africa which we know as The Great Bantu migration/expansion. No such documentation of Bantu migration from Congo back to Nigeria exists. Again, I'm aware the Tivs were expansionists based on their origin.

You and I are not Tivs. I also study the history of this people, especially linguistics.

The bolded would be false based on your theory. Kwararafa exists somewhere around 16th century. If the Tiv came after Kwararafa, then that means the Tiv population is very recent and their language would still be very close to other Bantu languages, especially from Congo that the supposedly came from. Bantu expansion occurred thousands of years ago and even after thousands of years later, Bantu languages have many similarities with each other. This can be best demonstrated with their number system.
Linguistic evidence
Take for example, Kikuyu language from Kenya with the counting system from 1-10:
Ĩmwe, Igĩrĩ, Ithatũ, Inya, Ithano, Ithathatũ Mũgwanja, Inyanya, Kenda, Ikũmi. Notice the similarity with another language county system.

This is Zulu in South Africa, 4 thousands kilometers away:
kunye, kubili, kuthathu, kune, kuhlanu, isithupha, isikhombisa, isishiyagalombili, isishiyagalolunye, ishumi.

In Congo, the apparent Tiv homeland, the Kikongo counting system are: moosi, zoole, tatu, ya, taanu, saambanu, ntsambwaadi, naana, vwe/vwa, kuumi.

In Tiv language: the numerical system are: mom, uhwa, utaa, unyii, utaan, aterata, utankaauhwa, anieni, utankwunyi, pue.


See, even Bantu languages that have been separated for millennia share more in common with each other, than Tiv which relatively recently migrated from Congo the fall of Kwarafa according to you. Can you find me a language in Congo that's very similar to Tiv?

See the multiple similarities in Bantu languages. Also in many bantu languages, the word for people is "bantu." This isn't the case for Tiv which lacks that terminology. Researchers classified Tiv and some surrounding languages as Bantoid not Bantu. Bantoid languages are close to Bantu languages, they are not the same necessarily. In

Archaeology and Historic evidence
*Tiv claim descendant from an ancestor named Tiv who had two progenitor sons; Chongo and Pusu.
Tiv claim they originate from a hillly/mountainous area known as Swem, before settling at the Benue valley.


"Archaeological researches conducted on abandoned settlement sites in Tivland particularly the hilltop settlement sites have also been useful in the search for Tiv origin and migrations. These researches seem to support the assertion by Tiv oral traditions that, the Tiv inhabited the hilltops as they migrated from Swem into the Benue Valley of Nigeria. The migration from Swem according to oral traditions was sparked in part, by conflict with other tribes (Akiga 1939, Makar 1975, Gbor 1978) and the hilltops provided the needed protection from their enemies as they were pursued into the Benue Valley. Archaeological and ethno archaeological works conducted by scholars such as Andah 1983, Folorunso 1989, Ogundele 1993, Gundu 1999, Ndera 2009, and Chia 2014 have associated the hilltop settlements in Tivland today with the Tiv."

This hilltop settlements predate Kwararafa as archeologists found Tiv pottery and tools evidence dating back to the 1400s.

"Having examined the evidence available for Tiv origin and migrations from different sources, it seems the notion of a Tiv migration from somewhere around the Nigeria- Cameroon border into the Benue Valley of Nigeria is not in doubt again."



A lot of ethnic groups in Nigeria are expansionists, Igala, Nupe, Yoruba, Ijaw, Hausa, Ebira and Fulani are all expansionists, but does that make them Bantu languages? It's true that Tiv as Bantoid does feature some similarities with Bantu, but they are not necessarily the same.

Again don't get me wrong, my point all along is still that Tiv is Bantoid, because it's the factual classification and as such the closest groups to Bantu languages. Tivs are similar to other Bantoid groups found in Cameroon as well. In Cameroon, there is a distinction, as well as a bond between Bantu-speaking ethnic groups and Bantoid ethnic groups with each accounting for around a third of the population.
I hope this helps.

Research Info from:
Richard Terungwa Chia
Department of Archaeology,
Ahmadu Bello University,
Zaria, Nigeria.

Below is a map of the language classification. Look at the Southern boarder between Cameroon and Nigeria. The dark and light orange represents Bantoid languages. The brown represents Bantu languages.

Underneath are the original abandoned ancient Tiv hill settlements uncovered by archaeologists.

Nowenuse:


No need, let me help u with the normal Kenyan look.

I bet u look worse than this

freshest4live:

It's funny, because to me we are the only ones with a clear accent except the English speaking countries. I get turned off by the Indian Southern African, Eastern African and Ghanian accents.

freshest4live:

I have stayed with Ghanians, l struggle to understand them.

68816419:

sincerely speaking ,Nairobi have few nice places but most of these "nice " places are mostly dominated by Indians and whites fellas, Nairobi CBD have this advantage of it location, the location which is very close to the airport gives a good impression of the city and even the country at large,imagine having an airport at VI,IKoyi or even Lekki.
while I was at Nairobi , I stayed at a place called Karen ("posh place "where literally all the politicians, and whites stays) this place was provided by the company i worked with,and this was based on the contract agreement signed,the agreement was to be provided with a safe and conducive areas, this so called"posh reserved" area not only have bad roads but does not by any means qualify to be rated above an average places in Abuja and Lagos,also, prior to leaving for kenya I had a very good impression of a nice "black African city" ,but I was wrong, my first disappointment came when I realised that an average black Kenyan does not see that the economy of the nation ain't longer in their hands rather in the hand of few Indians, Somalis and white people, best estates, supermarkets,shops,restaurants, hotels and other big business are owned by these few guys ,one can hardly go to a cinemas where Indian movies r not given priority above other movies let say Kenyan or even english movies, go to the industrial areas along airport roads and see how over 98% of the companies are owned by these Indians ,go to this so called "nice" places ,Karen,Westland,parkland,muthaiga, spring valley,lavington.. and see how very few the black Kenyans are , blacks in kenya mostly stays in a very low areas with very poor facilities and the funny thing is the fact they stay not too far from where the Indians and white stays .so, I would summarise my Nairobi experience as, a place designed for few whites,Indians and tourist.
also, one would think it's only Nairobi that has this challenges but the truth is that, almost all Kenyan cities have same issues from Nakuru to naivasa, from Mombasa to malindi , from malindi to ukunda, from ukunda to eldoret, they all have this same issue of self delusional, myopic reasoning, they are all too blind to see what's going on, and it really pains me a lot. I have this friend from eldorate he once said this to me "it too late now ,we can never do any thing to these Indians ,any attempt to take back out economy from them means total collapse of our economy and we don't want to experience what happened to Zimbabwe and Uganda"
I just laughed and ended the conversation...

freshest4live:

I have stayed with Ghanians, l struggle to understand them.

forgiveness:



It is high time I burst some bubbles.

Nairobi is the Africa headquarters of international organizations claims.


They said Nigeria doesn't have Regional international organization headquarters but we told we are building our own world international organizations in Nigeria with headquarters in Lagos.


However, out of the 58 international companies or agencies sited in Nairobi, 30 are East and SubSaharan Africa regional headquarters while only 22 are Africa regional headquarters.

Nevertheless, out of the same list, I counted 26 international companies or agencies with their West and Africa regional headquarters in Lagos.

Since, that is all they have, Lagos will dust Nairobi if we count all the west/Africa regional headquarters in Lagos such as banks, Oil companies, manufacturing companies etc.

This is all the international companies with headquarters in Nigeria. I numbered the companies with West Africa/Africa headquarters in Lagos.

1, Asus Lagos West Africa
AVIC International
2, BASF Lagos West Africa
Bank of China
Bharti Airtel Lagos West Africa
United Nations
3, BlackBerry Ltd Lagos West Africa
4, Bosch Lagos West Africa
5, Cisco Systems Lagos West Africa
Chartis
China-Africa Development Fund
China Central Television
China Daily CBD Africa
China Radio International

6, Citibank Lagos West Africa

7, Coca-Cola Lagos West Africa (31 countries). Nairobi no longer host the Africa headquarters. Nairobi office is just the East/South Africa headquarter.

8, Diageo Lagos West Africa
9, Eltek Lagos West Africa

FirstCarbon Solutions
GEMS Education

10, General Electric Lagos West Africa

Google Africa headquarter not in Nairobi.
GSM Association?


11, Heineken Lagos West Africa

Hill International

12, Huawei Lagos West Africa. Nairobi is not the East Africa regional headquarters.
Ha

13, IBM Lagos West Africa. the Africa headquarter is not in Nairobi.

ICAO

IMF
14, Intel Corporation Lagos West Africa

ITF
IUCN
15, Jotun Lagos West Africa

16, Kaspersky Lab Lagos West Africa

Kiva

17, LG Lagos West Africa/Africa?

18, MasterCard Lagos West Africa

Merck KGaA Africa and East Africa headquarter are not in Nairobi

Mitsubishi Motors Africa headquarter is not in Nairobi

19, Motorola Solutions Lagos West Africa

Nestlé Central and West Africa regional headquarters are not in Nairobi.

NIIT
21, Nokia Lagos West Africa

Nokia Research Hub

Panalpina

22, Pfizer Industrial Lagos Africa headquarter
23, Pricewaterhouse Coopers Lagos West Africa

24, Qualcomm Lagos West Africa

Rockefeller Foundation

Red Cross

25, RTI International Lagos West Africa

Sage Group

Scania AB
Sony
26, Standard Chartered Bank West Africa. Africa headquarter is not in Nairobi.?

Stockholm Environment Institute
Stratlink Global
TNT
Toyota
Visa Inc.
World Bank
Xinhua News Agency


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_and_organizations_based_in_Nairobi

Just30:
it's because, your grew up listening to the wrong pronunciation of things

freshest4live:

Rubbish, it's the Ghanians who do not talk well. How come the British and American accent seem smooth to me though fast.

vaxx:
if it is fast it can not be smooth.

freshest4live:

Rubbish, it's the Ghanians who do not talk well. How come the British and American accent seem smooth to me though fast.

fanficgirl:

LOL I was kind of joking I think its just culture. Jamaicans are just as loud

68816419:

Kenya's earnings from tourism fall 3 pct in 2015
revenue from its tourism sector dropped 2.87 percent last year to 84.6 billion shillings ($837.21 million), its tourism minister said.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL8N18Z0QK

freshest4live:

It's funny, because to me we are the only ones with a clear accent except the English speaking countries. I get turned off by the Indian Southern African, Eastern African and Ghanian accents.

Hbuyosh:



How many of those are actually Sub Sahara Africa/ African HQs? These are just serving the W.African region.

Kenya hosts the hqs of 60 multinational companies serving east/central/southern Africa, ssAfrica and the whole Africa.

Ie, u have the IBM in Lagos which serves only the west African region, but the one in Nairobi is the ultimate hq for the whole of the continent.

TayserMahiri:


That was reversed. In 2016, foreign tourism arrivals grew by 16 percent.

https://wolfganghthome./2017/02/01/kenyas-tourism-arrivals-grew-by-over-16-percent-in-2016/

Another 16 percent rise has been recorded this year.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/tourism-arrivals-kenya-mombasa/1056-3794720-j4wt61z/index.html

And the rise of tourist arrivals from west africa is 30 percent, mainly from Ghana and Nigeria.

http://www.namnewsnetwork.org/v3/read.php?id=Mzg0Njcy

forgiveness:



You are a bloody liar. IBM Africa headquarter is not located in Nairobi. They only operate East Africa regional headquarter in Nairobi and East Africa comprises of only 10 countries compared to their West Africa regional headquarter located in Lagos that serves 20 bigger countries.

We have many of them like that in that fake list.

Out of the 6 listed for SubSahara Africa only 5 ARE NOT LOCATED IN NAIROBI.

Now, let me break it down.

Out of the 58 multinational companies, 28 of these companies serves only the East Africa region which comprises only 8-10 countries, 1 serves the SubSahara Africa while 19 of these organizations serves the whole of Africa, of which most are humanitarian agencies,


The remaining 10 multinationals neither have their East nor Africa regional headquarters in Nairobi. Busted.

Nairobi is not blabla what you claim. Organization setting up companies first in Nairobi doesn’t tantamount to being the Africa regional headquarter. It may be the starting point but as soon as they expand to West Africa, Nairobi looses its regional headquarter status sharp sharp.


Note; out of your list 25 multinational companies serves the whole 20 countries in West Africa from Lagos while 1 multinational company Africa regional headquarter is located in Lagos.

This is just from your list. Whatever if we release Lagos list?