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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:29am On Jun 01, 2017
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Agumbankembu:


Stop this nonsense talk.
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Another hiv positive nigga spotted shocked
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:40am On Jun 01, 2017
Just30:
highly affordable
Poor people In Ghana are less than 2%


Just tell me how much is Coca cola in Ghana Cedi, that's all. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 1:49am On Jun 01, 2017
FreddyKruger:


That nigga will rape u and infect u with hiv...they got the highest hiv/aids prevalence and he's positive shocked

A$$ hole grin Where do you come from grin I can smell something from you grin I will kick your smelling a$$ if you don't stop grin I am joking grin I don't care about your smelling a$$ grin I am sleeping now grin,
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CocoMilian(f): 2:07am On Jun 01, 2017
MPSA:


Sun City is a good place for tourist, I also love the place, the other beautiful place in that region is haartebeespoort, Is almost 50 km from Sun City, Is too close to Pretoria, You will never regret if you can visit that area, It has a big dam,cable car, hotels, Hot balloon, the place is beautiful.

Would you kindly share pics of haartebeespoort .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CocoMilian(f): 2:15am On Jun 01, 2017
FreddyKruger:


That nigga will rape u and infect u with hiv...they got the highest hiv/aids prevalence and he's positive shocked

Cmon that's just absurd. undecided

Dont be judgemental.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:31am On Jun 01, 2017
CocoMilian:


Cmon that's just absurd. undecided

Dont be judgemental.

Like seriously...if u must visit SA jst stay celibate, and stay away from dt dude...he wanted to post his birth certificate d other day and mistakenly posted his hiv+ result shocked
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:33am On Jun 01, 2017
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MPSA:


A$$ hole grin Where do you come from grin I can smell something from you grin I will kick your smelling a$$ if you don't stop grin I am joking grin I don't care about your smelling a$$ grin I am sleeping now grin,
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Quoting me gives me d chills...hope i don't contract type 2 hiv by replying u shocked
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:13am On Jun 01, 2017
genieluv:


Which place is this in Nigeria?




Sorry took so long,
1.ondo golf club
2. Ibrahim badamosi babangida international golf course/club Abuja.
3. Le meridian golf course akwaibom,
4.ogun golf club.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:17am On Jun 01, 2017
genieluv:


great, can u enlighten me a little about this?



Ogun is the gateway state to Lagos, she has overtaken lagos in industrialization and is the mining capital of Nigeria.

This is one of the foreign direct investment drive, becoming a reality.


It was opened last week for operations, the produce toiletries, sanitary pads, pampers, etc
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 4:55am On Jun 01, 2017
genieluv:


Mmm, daaah, Buh the current prime minister of Ethiopia is Oromo, isn't he? Oromos are not that marginalized in Ethiopia from what i can see. I may be wrong tho.
I also think it's wrong for you to be supporting the disintegration of Ethiopia. Are there not marginalized groups in Kenya too?
They are marginalised. Actually Ethiopia is somewhere up there with North Korea when it comes to human rights.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 4:56am On Jun 01, 2017
genieluv:


Aaah, not cool sad dnt you think Nigerian movies at least need to encouraged with the recent efforts put in? If we can come this far, i believe we will soon start producing real action, adventure n sci fi movies with a close quality as Hollywood very soon smiley
Are you saying you don't watch any other movies at all apart from sci-fi movies? undecided

Btw, what'd u mean by our accents are a turn off? I don't get undecided
Especially broda. I hate that word
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nev92: 4:58am On Jun 01, 2017
Whoever wants to compare Nigeria's GDP with Kenya's certainly doeant understand a thing about economics. Kenya is wherever it is because Kenyans are brilliant people. Nigeria has $0.5 B GDP because of oil exports. Kenya doesnt rely on minerals, unlike the rest of Africa's top 10 GDPs. FYI Kenyans marry anyone because we are receptive of all cultures, not because Kenyan women like Nigerian men. Refer to Barack Obama Snr.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 4:58am On Jun 01, 2017
genieluv:


Cc MtuMsuper, nowenuse, muafrika2

I love your explanations 9jakool buh please can you try to put some summariness? Thanks.

First of all, in response to your second paragraph or first point, i'd like you to know that a good number of ethnic groups in Cross river north n maybe central do share Kwararafa origins e.g the Yalas, yaches, bekwarras, obubra n obanliku e.t.c.
There was a time a few years ago that traditional rulers from Cross river and other states of Nigeria went to Wukari to meet the Aku-Uka n confer their rightful ancestry to his kingdom.
Check the link below to confirm, the 2nd paragraph of the 1st page.

http://www.academia.edu/7007449/Origin_of_Kwararafa_Kingdom


Before i throw in a few explanations about the Tivs, i'd like you to read this link very well.

http://naijasky.com/benue-state/19/history-of-tiv-people/9455/

After reading this link, i don't think we need much explanations or arguments again to understand where you and i are missing it.

I was missing the fact that even though Tivs came from Congo, they did not come to Benue region of Nigeria immediately, they settled at the swem hills in present day Cameroon until it became overpopulated for them before they came to Benue, Central Nigeria and displaced we the kwararafan tribes.
You are missing the fact that they possibly came from somewhere before arriving the swem hills (in present day Cameroon).

I enjoy reading your links and you do have a good points.

Yes, I visited your links. What did i gained from this? I reinfirmed the notion that Tiv expanded from Swem hills in Cameroon. The Congo evidence is not widely supported. Out of the plethora of authors, only a very few confirmed that they asre indeed fom Congo. "Abraham (1934: 5) concluded that the Tiv were “real Bantu” suggested that Tivs migrated from Congo." Abraham based his description by selecting 67 Tiv words that he thought sound similar to Nyaza of Congo. Notice the use of "real bantu". The theory that they came from Cameroon is more supportred by their oral and archeology tyraditions than the theory that they came from Congo. Also Congo is a huge place stretching from Southern africa to Northern Africa and to Eastern Africa. The language he was referencing is spoken in a region all the way South near Zambia. The Congo evidence is so narrow and it's not as supported. Even this similarity does not change the fact that they are Bantoid. Bantoid languages have narrow similarities with Bantu, I've already established that. This is already touched on by Muafrika2. But they are classified as Bantoid and not Bantu by scientists for a reason right?

Another point we are having a misunderstanding is the issue of Tiv expansion and their expansionist nature.
It's unfortunate that you don't understand my explanation of Tiv expansion, that was why you were comparing Tiv expansion to Igala, Nupe, Edo or Yoruba expansion.
Hope you know that there are over a million Tivs in Nasarawa n Taraba states? Buh the Tivs in these states are not regarded or recognized as Indigenes by the other ethnic grouops in these states because these people all knew when the Tivs arrived.
We in Benue don't have such audacity because the Tivs are the majority here and their settlements in Benue are definitely older than those in neighbouring Nasarawa n Taraba states.
Tivs are/used to be the kind of people who will come to your community in peace looking for farmlands and once you have given them it is finished, they have the highest birth rate of any tribe in Nigeria or even Africa and multiply so fast. Within a short time they have already outnumbered you in your community and before your people can say jack, they have already had more settlements surrounding your community and if you try to fight them, you are most likely to loose the fight due to their large numbers. This was how they displaced most Kwararafan tribes and are still displacing us till date (only that civilization n education has reduced it to an extent).

This is the reason why you find Benue river Jukun n Etulo (Idoma speaking tribe) communities in the heart of Tiv land in Benue state, completely enclaved by Tiv communities. During the height of Tiv expansion when they displaced Kwararafan tribes, some like the Etulo n River Benue jukuns (who are mostly fisher people) and probably thought they could not do without the River Benue stayed behind, and this was how they were enclaved and cut off away from their linguistic sibblings. Today, most of them have adopted Tiv language, culture n identity and it's just a matter of few decades for them to be completely Tiv-ized.


If you want to study the history of a tribe, especially through the oral means. Another good way you can do it is by asking the neighbouring tribes of that ethnic group to give you some oral accounts about their neighbours.
I will try to find some online documents featuring oral accounts from Idomas, Jukuns, Agatus, Igedes, Alagos and all other ethnic groups neighbouring the Tivs.
Buh being from this area, i have had first hand oral history info from my own tribe and other neighbouring Kwararafan tribes on the Tivs and it is exactly the same story from every quarters about the Tivs being expansionists who came to their lands not too long ago.
If you want to confirm this, pls feel free to befriend any person from an ethnic group of Kwararafan descent in Taraba, Benue, Nasarawa or Cross river state.
Thanks.
I completely get it. Personally, that story of "Tivization" is very similar to "Hausanization" currently going on.

***It's unfortunate i accused your post of being too lengthy, while mine is no different grin. I apologize****
It's fine.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 5:02am On Jun 01, 2017
forgiveness:



Just tell me how much is Coca cola in Ghana Cedi, that's all. grin
grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 5:05am On Jun 01, 2017
FreddyKruger:


Like seriously...if u must visit SA jst stay celibate, and stay away from dt dude...he wanted to post his birth certificate d other day and mistakenly posted his hiv+ result shocked









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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 5:09am On Jun 01, 2017
Muafrika2:

I submit to you, that there are strong similarities ...

Kamba tribe, Kenyan Bantu ...

Imwe, ili, itatu, inya, itano, thandatu, monza, Nyanya, kenda, Ikumi

Swahili:
Moja, mbili, tatu, nne, Tano, sita, Saba, nane, tisa, kumi

I bet I would somehow comprehend the language if I heard it being spoken
Very interesting. Bantoid languages have some similarities with Bantu languages. The Noun structures of Bantoid languages are different from Bantu, but a few very basic vocabularies have some similarities.
Are all Bantu languages comprehend able in spoken form?

How much of this can you understand?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Sd9ayp-Co
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 5:15am On Jun 01, 2017
genieluv:



Oooh myyy! Nooo! shocked
~~I have once seen a report where a black foreigner claimed that the number n influence of Indians n whites in Nairobi,Kenya is too much for a typical black african country buh i never thot it was that much~~.

TayserMahiri, muafrika2, PissedYagami, MtuMsuper
Is this really true?
I'm sorry if i sound so much of a critic or racist, i am not against foreigners in any way. I love em smiley buh i don't like the idea of foreigners dominating or having so much influence in African cities. Nuuh i don't. Why should they?
Kenya has man UN offices so there are averagely more foreigners(whites) than any other African country, say apart from South Africa. Also Kenya has a lot of tourists, so you will find a lot of non blacks when you walk on the streets but thats just that. Whites do not control the Kenyan economy. There is a sizeable number of Kenyan whites but they are mostly farmers or just exist like normal Kenyans. And yes they are Kenyan and feel Kenyan, so dont try to be a racist cunt. Some have been here since the 1800s so they are 100% African. Kenya is also a civilised African country and people dont have backward racist mindsets. Kenya does receive a sizeable number of immigrants mostly from Italy, so there is a growing number of Kenyan Italians, mostly at the coast, but most of them just love the country. There are some others who come from other countries like Norway, Canada etc and settle here. Its a nice country we welcome all. No one in their right mind would immigrate to Nigeria tbh
Yes Indians are in Kenya and they are not foreigners, actually they are Kenyan Asians because not everyone who looks Indian is from India, there are also Pakis . They do not have much influence of Kenyan cities, Blacks are the majority in Kenya and have the most influence. There are many malls here, and people you will see there are blacks, meaning they can afford and they are not as hopeless as 6868 tries to portray here.
Kenya is mostly black controlled,
And yes the most patriotic Kenyan song was sang by him. so dont try to be racist. Calling a person foreigner just because he is not black african is not cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBmu0BPYfkI

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 5:28am On Jun 01, 2017
genieluv:



Oooh myyy! Nooo! shocked
~~I have once seen a report where a black foreigner claimed that the number n influence of Indians n whites in Nairobi,Kenya is too much for a typical black african country buh i never thot it was that much~~.

TayserMahiri, muafrika2, PissedYagami, MtuMsuper
Is this really true?
I'm sorry if i sound so much of a critic or racist, i am not against foreigners in any way. I love em smiley buh i don't like the idea of foreigners dominating or having so much influence in African cities. Nuuh i don't. Why should they?
I do not know if it is a good or a bad thing , but many Kenyans dont realise the number of immigrants moving into Kenya. Like a huge chunk of ex Zimbabwe whites moved to Kenya, see a pround Kenyan Norwegian in that screenshot, and a good number of Boers are shifting base. SA is too hostile I hear. And from this video is a Kenyan American, busy singing in Swahili. Tbh I dont know if it is a good or a bad thing. But I believe it shows anyone can live anywhere in the world. Why create borders for humans. I believe anyone should live anywhere, well except the Mexicans an Nigerians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1hdXTuZxrI

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 5:35am On Jun 01, 2017
Muafrika2:

Karen was overtaken decades ago by places like Kabete, Kitusuru, etc Many people are also building their homes in the rural places.

Don't be so quick to judge. There are whites in Karen who are descendants of settlers who got the land for free but a century later, they are barely surviving. Not all white people are rich.

The place is more of a college district nowadays.
True, not all muzungus are rich. Some have a tough life here

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 5:36am On Jun 01, 2017
forgiveness:


Did I say IBM Africa headquarter is in Nigeria? shocked

Check well. I said IBM Africa regional headquarter is not in Nairobi.

A Nigerian was formerly the chairman of West, South and East Africa headquarter. He is now the chairman of of East and Southern Africa of Coca cola.

Many organizations have demoted Nairobi from the Africa regional headquarter to East Africa regional after coming to Lagos. grin grin
Name a few
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 5:41am On Jun 01, 2017
vaxx:
ghana is earning more in revenue than kenya.
Wait, what? Ghana earns more then Kenya?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 6:17am On Jun 01, 2017
9jakool:


I enjoy reading your links and you do have a good points.

Yes, I visited your links. What did i gained from this? I reinfirmed the notion that Tiv expanded from Swem hills in Cameroon. The Congo evidence is not widely supported. Out of the plethora of authors, only a very few confirmed that they asre indeed fom Congo. "Abraham (1934: 5) concluded that the Tiv were “real Bantu” suggested that Tivs migrated from Congo." Abraham based his description by selecting 67 Tiv words that he thought sound similar to Nyaza of Congo. Notice the use of "real bantu". The theory that they came from Cameroon is more supportred by their oral and archeology tyraditions than the theory that they came from Congo. Also Congo is a huge place stretching from Southern africa to Northern Africa and to Eastern Africa. The language he was referencing is spoken in a region all the way South near Zambia. The Congo evidence is so narrow and it's not as supported. Even this similarity does not change the fact that they are Bantoid. Bantoid languages have narrow similarities with Bantu, I've already established that. This is already touched on by Muafrika2. But they are classified as Bantoid and not Bantu by scientists for a reason right?


I completely get it. Personally, that story of "Tivization" is very similar to "Hausanization" currently going on.


It's fine.








You forgot to add " Yorubanization" toogrin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 6:19am On Jun 01, 2017
Isahalbash:









You forgot to add " Yorubanization" toogrin
grin What parts?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:20am On Jun 01, 2017
TayserMahiri:

Right, and do you think thats happening?

Yes, it's under control.

As more oil and gas pipeline comes up, improvement in Agriculture, security is also improving, industries are also increasing despite power challenges etc. We expect things to get better since this are all indicators that demand for forex will reduce over time and industries will start exporting thing we use to import.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:38am On Jun 01, 2017
Nev92:
Whoever wants to compare Nigeria's GDP with Kenya's certainly doeant understand a thing about economics. Kenya is wherever it is because Kenyans are brilliant people. Nigeria has $0.5 B GDP because of oil exports. Kenya doesnt rely on minerals, unlike the rest of Africa's top 10 GDPs. FYI Kenyans marry anyone because we are receptive of all cultures, not because Kenyan women like Nigerian men. Refer to Barack Obama Snr.


You really need to learn economics dear. Oil contribute only 11-18% of Nigeria's economy. Google is your friend bro. Agriculture, telecommunications, etc contribute more.

Oil is the major source of forex to Nigeria and it's also the major source of government revenue. Economy is a completely different thing.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 6:42am On Jun 01, 2017
iblawi:



You really need to learn economics dear. Oil contribute only 11-18% of Nigeria's economy. Google is your friend bro. Agriculture, telecommunications, etc contribute more.

Oil is the major source of forex to Nigeria and it's also the major source of government revenue. Economy is a completely different thing.
11 to 18% that is directly. Then there is indirectly, got to be bigger. Thats why all oil economies have higher gdp per capita than non oil economies
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 6:49am On Jun 01, 2017
PissedYagami:

11 to 18% that is directly. Then there is indirectly, got to be bigger. Thats why all oil economies have higher gdp per capita than non oil economies
Apart from oil the Telecommunication sector is huge in Nigeria, same with Agriculture and Banking. Lagos state has no oil, yet it is higher in GDP than Kenya alone.
There are other aspects such as the fashion industry( Germans too are now beginning to love and patronize it). Lagos is Africa's economic and business hub, All of these have little or nothing to do with oil. Note that shamefully Nigeria also imports refined crude. Oil is not everything in Nigeria. You can't compare your Agriculture and Telecommunication, or Entertainment to ours. Nigeria alongside Kenya and Southafrica dominate the ICT sector in Africa, and there are so many entrepreneurs in Nigeria. We have one of the highest number of women entrepreneurs as well, if not the highest.
Forget it, oil or no oil you can't compare Kenya to Nigeria. Angola has oil afterall.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:55am On Jun 01, 2017
PissedYagami:

11 to 18% that is directly. Then there is indirectly, got to be bigger. Thats why all oil economies have higher gdp per capita than non oil economies

For Both direct and indirect.

Do people buy more fuel than what they eat? About 100 million active internet subscribers plus o over 150 million active telephone lines, communication satellites, etc for telecommunications sector. Transportation sector, culture and entertainment, industries, etc.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 7:00am On Jun 01, 2017
PissedYagami:

Wait, what? Ghana earns more then Kenya?
revenue in tourism
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 7:03am On Jun 01, 2017
PissedYagami:

11 to 18% that is directly. Then there is indirectly, got to be bigger. Thats why all oil economies have higher gdp per capita than non oil economies

Oil would contribute more when we start refining every oil we use locally and even start exporting by 2019. Our current refining capacity is too low compared to our demand.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 7:04am On Jun 01, 2017
CocoMilian:


What are some of the most outrageous coffins built in Ghana and can you share the pics?
i have posted many of them. in case you dont have it check these again

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 7:11am On Jun 01, 2017
vaxx:
am not discreditng nigeria. Just given fact base on GDP per capital Take these. Make research on them. Kwame addo kuffor. He is worth over 2 billion dollar. Another ghana man. Citizen kofi .The guy who brought of western union to africa. You can imagine how much he earns on each western union transaction daily,throughout africa as a continent
Nigerian GDP per capita is higher than that of Ghana.

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