slivertongue:


you could be the finger behind them
if you know those behind Kanu you will give those guys a chance
there are no perfect leaders anywhere

mekuzi09:

You are very correct. If not for the "we South South crew" on this forum that attack Igbos with ferocity, I don't think the average Igboman will have a problem sharing the same country with ND tribes. After all, Rivers State is a composition of different ethnic group, including Igbos and Ijaws, but the state is peaceful.

caleboxylic:


I don't even want any non-igbo speaking tribe in Biafra except Ibibio, anang and Efik if they wish to join Biafra. I'm 70% sure ogoja/ogoni will join Biafra if given the opportunity. Biafra of only Igbo tribe will be a great nation to reckon with.

DerideGull:


Ndigbo are steadfast in their quest to achieve home land. Any group is free to declare its homeland too. The die is cast.

PointB:


That is true.
The Ken Saro Wiwa case was also a missed opportunity. Eastern Nigeria folded their hands and watched as life was snuffed out of him and the struggle he represents. We (Igbos) didn't raise a hand to help, maybe because of his past treachery. Uwazuruike would have also felt alone and threatened while he was imprisoned at the peak of his struggle which I believe affected his strategy. In a similar way, NK 'shock and awe' Radio Biafra strategy is about to be replaced with a more subtly system to appeal more to the elite than the masses. I'm not sure how that will pan out.

Nigeria does not respect reason and logic, they respect any 'shock and awe' which threatens the system. So while a subtly and elitist approach will appeal to some, the 'shock and awe' element is still important an element in this struggle for self-determination. It appeals to many.

Sun Tsu, Art of War, Chapter 2 verse 16 says


This was the strategy used by NK during his Radio Biafra days to get the people to this point. That strategy must always be deployed and to its maximum effect. In the journey to Biafra, Nigeria is the enemy, and strategy as such to force self determination is fair. The pressure must be sustained and increased, and there must be no let-up. As often as can be possibly arranged, IPOB must come up with options to keep the fire burning, they should not waste to much time over analyzing it. Some IPOD action should be compelling others confounding, even ambiguous.

Even Nigeria government will find it difficult to afford the cost of maintaining order in multiple cities and town across a united better south.

Sun Tsu, Art of War, Chapter 2 verse 19 says


When there is no idea of what next to do, street protests and rallies are always available. We must make haste. No one can kill an idea whose time has come.

Develpeast:


Sometimes you all think Biafra is heaven instead of a new country. If you start choosing ppl that you want to share a country with, who will draw the boundary demarcation for you? Nnamdi KANU? I believe the only open minded ppl in this struggle are the ppl on top but the followers are killing it based on over patriotism.

Develpeast:


Sometimes you all think Biafra is heaven instead of a new country. If you start choosing ppl that you want to share a country with, who will draw the boundary demarcation for you? Nnamdi KANU? I believe the only open minded ppl in this struggle are the ppl on top but the followers are killing it based on over patriotism.

YorubaForum:

Oga afonja abeg go and sit down...we need to organise ourself before the rubbish that is happening in Nigeria now Will start happening there...so and bury ur head in shame

YorubaForum:

Oga afonja abeg go and sit down...we need to organise ourself before the rubbish that is happening in Nigeria now Will start happening there...so and bury ur head in shame

Chiwude:
Nice thread! Weldone Ahaika, Amarabae, Candy.rain, Kathmandu and others. Keep up the good work.

Develpeast:


You do not need to get worked up about anything, I am a very logical minded man and I will tell you that if you say ogoni will join while annang will not join, then you are creating a problem yourself.

Let everybody come and let's get Biafra. Biafra is a country and not heaven.

Develpeast:
A note of reality to those who are trying to equate Biafra to heaven:

1. Biafra will be a country and not paradise. The outcome of our decisions today will decide if the country will be better than what we have now or worse.

2. In Biafra, there will be sins like formication, adultery, armed robbery, heart break, corruption, etc. It depends on how you see it. Its a country of real people and not spirits, okay.

3. Igbo needs other tribes in Biafra. The many, the merrier. On a serious note, we need the sea access, we need the available market, we need the love of neighborhood and most importantly, we need the numbers. Igbo's thrive with numbers and if it goes the way it is planned, we are going to ecstatic by the number of Igbo's relocating from kano to warri and from Lagos to akwa ibom. People is money.

4. Biafra will meet some difficulties of which they will need time to solve. Yes, a new born baby will learn to crawl before walking. Do Biafra will pass through such process. The only difference is that it will not crawl on stone but crawl on a rug. So the knee will not peel. I assure, with a conglomeration of positive minded people who are looking for a better life, it story will always turn out better.

5. Biafra is not for you and I. Yes, this is the painful truth. The enjoyment that will come for Biafra will be fully enjoyed by our kids why you and I will work to make it better. Ours is to do the work when its fully actualized, they will just copy our template and live life to the fullest.

In all, when Biafra comes, it is going to be a reward of hardwork and no shortcuts.

ndcide:



GBAM!!!!


I've been shouting. My people have refused to listen.

Somewhere in their illusion they think of a SS state.


One buffoon is talking about urhobo state. in the same breath mentioned resource control or federalism.


I laughed. Our people are not ready.

Unfortunately, when they are pinned to the wall, they'll blame GEJ.

mekuzi09:

Standing on the sideline and watching events without commenting could earn you more respect. Stop this childish rant of Afonjas. Its too mechanical.

ahaika23:


Bro, you need to realize that when you have made up your mind to achieve anything, nothing can stop you. When it is ripe, the North can not hold us bound further. They deliberately skewed the constitution to perpetually make us unable to have the number necessary to change the constitution but I tell you, injustice will not suppress justice forever. If not for how NK had been going about the struggle, it would not have gotten global attention this fast.

ahaika23:

I remember when he shouted at the Judge in court and I read some comments suggesting that he should have begged her rather than talk to her that way and what happened finally, he was released. Or do you think he was pitied upon before he was granted bail? Things actually went down and they had no choice but to succumb. I tell you, if you want to beg, you will remain a begger!

UncleJudax:
There is strength in diversity. But that is only if and when everyone is happy in a "union". Clearly that not the case in Nigeria.

In the same vein, lumping too many unrelated people in Biafra wouldn't be any different from the present Nigeria.

I have always said if the non Igbo folks in the SS want their freedom from Nigeria, their best bet is to have an "MOU" with Biafra, then go their way after the struggle is actualised.

Nobody wants non IGBOs in Biafra

ahaika23:

Over the years, the struggle for self-determination of the Niger Delta has flipped for multiple times on different fronts but all have had if not similar but a very closely related demise. From the times of Adaka Boro through Ken Sarowiwa (both of blessed memory) to the times of the militancy struggle, all of which had one peculiar thing in common which is the deliberate and intentional slaughtering of the men in the struggle and/or their subordinates at the expense of the struggle. Sadly NOTHING much can be said to have been achieved in that regard.
My region boasts of billions of dollards of reserves of natural gas and crude oil which does not translate to the expectant living condition of the common man, neither does it reflect in a single perspective on the average Niger Deltan. With the billions of reserve lying within and out of our shores, the Niger Delta would have been an envy of the rest of Africa but what we have is a large expanse of murky dirty filty landscape covered and littered by shanties unfit for humans. Communities with crude oil underneath their lands are even living in worse conditions. This is the sad story of the Niger Delta.

The men who have recently been involved in whatever title they called it in recent times have all backed out. A lot of people are of the opinion that the likes of Asari, Boyloaf, Ateke Tom, Governor, Niger Delta Avengers, and their likes have been duly rewarded for their struggle and settled excellently well. I cannot say anything in that regard because I have never been an arms bearer, let alone be involve in the freedom fighting crusade, neither do I have any access whatsoever to any of the aforementioned groups or individuals (yes, there are a lot of people like us), and thus have NEVER benefitted in any single drop of oil the flows from my backyard. It then seemed as though the self-determination was never about a group of selves but rather a unit of self!

Who then are we the Niger Deltans, who are we? Do we have to take up arms before we can have a sip of our God-given resources? Why has Nigeria programmed the people of the region to resort to violence if they want to at least lead a fabulous life? Why do Emirs in the far North have oil wells in the tropics where I have to cut through bushes to reach when I want to farm (but the Emir only sees it on a map) while my Uwema and or Oda/Abuan (Community Chief and or King of Abua) have no knowledge as to when the wells in his domain were snatched away to a Northerner, why

We have tried our best by using force but what has been learnt is that force may not give us a peaceful happy ending. Even the bible says “come let us reason together”. It is time to reason together. What the Biafra sit-at-home day has impressed in my heart is that anything is achievable without the sound of a single gun. So what options do we have? Because as far as I am concerned, Nigeria being composed as it is remains a contraption of injustice, therefore equity and fairness will forever remain in the realms of our imaginations.

On the inclusion of our region with Biafrans, for those who may not be aware, the contraption Nigeria was initially composed of 3 regions viz the Northern, Eastern and Western regions. Now the Eastern region was a composition of all the south-eastern states and southern states. It was officially divided in 1967 into three new states which were Rivers State, South-Eastern State and East-Central. But these were originally a region bound by unity, language gradiation and sharing (what a word means in one dialect would mean some other thing in another dialect, same word), culture values, same food, trade and commerce. But Nigeria came and began to split us all apart.

Over the radio today, I heard some rather embarrassing comment from one caller who claimed to be from Rivers State. He spoke with antagonism and anger as to why Igbos would make Port Harcourt businesses grounded yesterday during the sit-at-home exercise and I asked myself why he and his family members do not own businesses. If you refuse to fix it, others are fixing theirs and your refusal/hate cannot stop the world! We have to keep up and compete so as to be able to rub shoulders with others and have the voice to speak and be heard. We cannot be cowards and want the best, who would give it?

As it is now, if my brothers want to insist not to be a part of the future with Biafra, I would ask them who in the south-south is a Niger Delta Nationalist whom we can look up to and follow and your guess is as good as mine. As for me, instead of sitting down doing nothing, I would rather take pride in voting for a referendum for a better future for my people. I believe a process has begun without the sound of the barrel!

DauraDullardo:
You can't get anywhere with those people with this your wrong frame of mind. You're dealing with extremely ultra-conservative feudalists and oligarchs. Negotiations and round-table discussions arent things they understand or relate with. In all honesty I have every reason to see you as a pacifist. The more you continue trying to assuage or pacify them, the more they continue trampling on you... The more they'll continue to see you as a conquered lot. They can NEVER concede anything to you by the reason of negotiations. That is the nature of bullies. It has always been the same since the beginning of time. You can't have your way with a bully until the day you decide to stand up to him.

This Nigerian question is a matter of survival. The survival of the North is desperately hinged on the resources from the South. Buhari said it sometime ago that desert encroachment is a huge challenge for the North. They desperately need the arable grasslands of the South plus the almighty petroleum resources. Asking for a restructuring is akin to severing them from their means of survival. You asking them to die and they can NEVER agree to that. Buhari himself said it's better we all drown in the ocean than to ask them to go their way. I think this should give you an insight into the kind of problem/situation we're dealing with.

Fifty years from now, Nigeria can never be restructured. We'll continue going round in circles until the country collapses .... Most possibly by violence. There's no other way. Quote me fifty years from today!

Chigboboss:
And by your definition, standing up to them is through insults and threats?

How can we be so undiplomatic and almost tactless as such? Do you know how much animosity we have created? Even when we get Biafra have you thought about the intricate details as highlighted on the thread about deporting us from Nigeria?

smh

Zhirinovsky:
There is no Biafra without non Igbos Bro. I can't picture myself in a new country without the Efiks and ibibios,we are the same people. The ijaws too and other ethnicities in the ND. Together we can forge a nation on equity and. Fairness.
Biafra without the ibibios means that people like Gen.Phillip Effiong fought for nothing (God forbid).
It just pains me when some Niger Deltans say ill about their Igbo brothers and denounce Biafra. That was exactly what the people that divided the old eastern region wanted to achieve so that we can be so divided to challenge them.

Chigboboss:


Negative global attention that still cannot get us the needed majority to get a referendum to leave this hell-hole.



Released on bail on medical grounds you mean. That is pity.

Ekinematics:
It surprises me that an Abuan that has nothing both historically and linguistically with Ibos will wright this RUBBISH.
No Abua man be it from Central Abua, Emughan or Odual will ever think of joining biafra.
Even the Uwema of Abua will spit on the Op if he sees him/her.

Ekinematics:
It surprises me that an Abuan that has nothing both historically and linguistically with Ibos will wright this RUBBISH.
No Abua man be it from Central Abua, Emughan or Odual will ever think of joining biafra.
Even the Uwema of Abua will spit on the Op if he sees him/her.

Ikology:


Those of our people in East are predominantly myopic, selfish and lack the will to accommodate modern economy. Providence and their political sagacity has made it possible for Abuja to emerge which the whole of the North now see as their heritage , also Lagos has been generally accepted by all Yorubas while we down south are still debating about Port Harcourt. PH is suppose to be a hub by now, with the right population mix that will rival Lagos and Abuja.

ahaika23:
That is the problem with you. What surprises you? Is it the stories you heard about what Igbos did to Abuans? Can you relate such stories to your present relationship with Igbos? I have lived with Igbo folks for over 20 years now and bro, everything said against them I am yet to experience.
What I have rather learnt from them is the ability to be self-dependent, build a business, nurture it and let it blossom, which I can beat my chest and say in the whole of Abua Kingdom, there is no one who has built an edifice from scratch, by setting up a business empire which employs up to 10 people. Which Abua man have you heard of in the capacity of the likes of late Stanley Uwom in this present day. It is because of this hatred among us that we do not thrive!

mekuzi09:

Ekinamitic is an Okrikan, I wonder why the guy hate Igbos so much. Judging from the fact that some Okrikans are bilingual; very fluent in Ijaw and Igbo, pointing to the fact that the group have been existing side by side peacefully for ages . Sometimes, I'm force to believe that he is an imposter, going by his trailing antecedents.

ahaika23:
I am believing that at the appropriate time, people like myself would be at the heart of an agitation done with brains, calculation and objectivity which is already building up massively

ahaika23:


We keep hating and they keep slaving us. First it was the whites, now it is the North!