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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jun 01, 2017
Daboomb:


Those 5ton Bedfords are also six tyres too.
Between 5T and 10T Trucks, tyres cannot be used to differentiate, most have 6tyres.

Chekitaut, come and show us pictures of your 10Ton trucks please


Of course they are, but the fact that they are old Bedfords makes them 5 tons.

I can use tires to differentiate. YMMV.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:15pm On Jun 01, 2017
Pic #1: Allegedly 20 tons.

Pic #2: Allegedly 5 tons.

Pic #3: I need this for the Micras in Ibadan.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 7:24pm On Jun 01, 2017
EgunMogaji:


Chairman of the board - double tuale Sir grin

Still in search of Ofe Owerri, none to be found in Ibadan last month.

I will send one on DHL express service to you Sir, but you must promise to send me the best Amala plate from Iya Basira with a steaming hot plate of soup with orisirisi meat inside, shaki, roundabout, kpomo and topped with that sweet stew. grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chuksjuve(m): 7:34pm On Jun 01, 2017
EgunMogaji:

Perhaps on a thread showcasing your company.
Good evening bro, I just opened the thread.. I really appreciate your word of advise.. i will keep posting and updating subsequently.. thanks!!!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 7:36pm On Jun 01, 2017
EgunMogaji:
Speaking of quality of workmanship and available good raw materials. They are building this block of flats behind me.

For Naija.. people go dey shout Pako house, Pako house; who want to build Pako house.... like Anigilaje always says... Ile pako.
And those can last real long here o... of course with good maintenance.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chuksjuve(m): 7:36pm On Jun 01, 2017
jabolo:


As advised, please start your own thread showcasing your strengths. Pics are good and don't be bashful about your pricing.

Serious users will find it if you make it informative and educational. Trust me, that is how a lot of business is generated in this Property section.

Good luck.

Kindly mention me on the thread so I can find it easily among the dross of advertisements as I'll definitely be looking for such a landscaping service in the nearest future. I might give you a relatively open canvas to work with too.


Good evening bro, I just opened the thread.
I really appreciate your word of advice..
thanks!!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PrinceLat(m): 7:40pm On Jun 01, 2017
EgunMogaji:
Pic #1: Allegedly 20 tons.

Pic #2: Allegedly 5 tons.

Pic #3: I need this for the Micras in Ibadan.

Thanks bro, I appreciate, even though they are "alleged"

Daboomb:


Those 5ton Bedfords are also six tyres too.
Between 5T and 10T Trucks, tyres cannot be used to differentiate, most have 6tyres.

Chekitaut, come and show us pictures of your 10Ton trucks please
Exactly my point, tyres confuse me, that's why I requested "naija pictures Abeg" preferably in action self........ Hopefully Chekitaut can help out here.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 7:41pm On Jun 01, 2017
spyder880:

The return of Egunbaba himself! I will visit more often now you are around again. Welcome Sir. grin

What!!!!!!!! What about WE the bench-warmers?

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 7:44pm On Jun 01, 2017
mufutau55:


What!!!!!!!! What about WE the bench-warmers?

Hajji M.

Oga me, you are the professor emeritus of the property section, and if anyone says anything and your seal of approval is not seen on it, "we will not take it!" cheesy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 7:48pm On Jun 01, 2017
spyder880:

Oga me, you are the professor emeritus of the property section, and if anyone says anything and your seal of approval is not seen on it, "we will not take it!" cheesy

It don finish be that.... my blood pressure is no relaxed... plenty TWALE! jare my Oga patapata.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 7:50pm On Jun 01, 2017
EgunMogaji:
Pic #1: Allegedly 20 tons.

Couple of those MACKS with Chekitaut, and you never have to work again o. Nah lifetime retirement.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:10pm On Jun 01, 2017
Assuming your project is a 4 bedroom bungalow all en suite.
Day 1: Setting Out and Excavation
Day 2: Complete Excavation and proceed with blinding of foundation trench.
Day 3: Form work and raise block to foundation level (4-5 blocks course depending on the topography of the land and level to existing road).
Day 4: Iron bending work starts if your house is using concrete facial/parapet,etc,etc,etc.
Day 5: Carpenter boards column points, etc,etc.
Day 6: Back filling of the foundation starts.
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What exactly does "Setting Out" entails if the person doing it is not actually doing the supervision of the project entirely?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kolnel: 8:14pm On Jun 01, 2017
mufutau55:


Couple of those MACKS with Chekitaut, and you never have to work again o. Nah lifetime retirement.

Hajji M.

Sir
It could either be an investment or money drainer

Things hardly go right in that country

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:14pm On Jun 01, 2017
PrinceLat:


Thanks bro, I appreciate, even though they are "alleged"


Exactly my point, tyres confuse me, that's why I requested "naija pictures Abeg" preferably in action self........ Hopefully Chekitaut can help out here.

I don't happen to have a truck weigh station on my site so I have to allege. Some Nigerians, not all, are fantastically corrupt.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:17pm On Jun 01, 2017
mufutau55:


What!!!!!!!! What about WE the bench-warmers?

Hajji M.

You weren't noticed because you haven't had to extinguish EgunMogaji induced infernos in a while grin

Of course I jest, you are the official unofficial moderator of the section.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:18pm On Jun 01, 2017
mufutau55:


For Naija.. people go dey shout Pako house.... like Anigilaje always says... Ile pako.
And those can last real long here o... of course with good maintenance.

Hajji M.

That was bare ground when I left for Naija on 5/5. So they rough framed a 5 flat in 4 weeks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 8:22pm On Jun 01, 2017
kolnel:

Sir
It could either be an investment or money drainer
Things hardly go right in that country

Agreed 1000% Boss. That is why I am not involved in that kind of business... Blood drainer...
I no get energy fighting with drivers... smiley

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 8:27pm On Jun 01, 2017
EgunMogaji:

That was bare ground when I left for Naija on 5/5. So they rough framed a 5 flat in 4 weeks.

And you know what? If they were working round the clock like in NYC, they would have probably finished by now..
You need to see the how quick they finished some high-risers o. And machineries being used dey help too.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:30pm On Jun 01, 2017
mufutau55:


And you know what? If they were working round the clock like in NYC, they would have probably finished by now..
You need to see the how quick they finished some high-risers o. And machineries being used dey help too.

Hajji M.

I was watching one of Trump (I now have to go and wash my hands) towers being built, they were doing 1 floor per week. Impressive.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 8:35pm On Jun 01, 2017
EgunMogaji:

I was watching one of Trump (I now have to go and wash my hands) towers being built, they were doing 1 floor per week. Impressive.

Not be joke, my brother. Everything boil down to MONEY (Ape kanu ko!)

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 9:07pm On Jun 01, 2017
spyder880:


OK, someone who feeds his family, pays for utilities and school fees, transports himself and his team to site is made to read and interprete the building plans, place the building on the right spot in the land, take all decisions to ensure a smooth start and continuation of the project, he now;

1. Sets out the building and marks out the trench lines(1 day)
2. Monitors the excavation work till completion (my last 5 sites done this year was an average of (5 days.)

This is 6 days work where you can even pay your workers as you alone can never set out a building. And someone pays you N20k to do all these in this hard country wey hard like iron grin

Until contractors start begging food on the streets.......... grin
Oga spyder which building u dey excavate for 5 days? shocked haba!
Abi na community u dey dig? or u use less than the required manpower?
Maybe we are not talking about the same size of buildings....i am talking abt simple residential buildings...

None of my buildings has ever exceeded one day for excavation, day1 setting out, day2 digging......i ensure more than enough men are on ground to dig to avoid excuses for enlongation.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jun 01, 2017
It's time to add the "Stalag 13" look to my site.

The perimeter is 450 feet.

How many Y whachacallit do I need and how many coiled razor wire?

Muchas gracias mi amigos.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 11:22pm On Jun 01, 2017
johnson232:

Oga spyder which building u dey excavate for 5 days? shocked haba!
Abi na community u dey dig? or u use less than the required manpower?
Maybe we are not talking about the same size of buildings....i am talking abt simple residential buildings...

None of my buildings has ever exceeded one day for excavation, day1 setting out, day2 digging......i ensure more than enough men are on ground to dig to avoid excuses for enlongation.

I need some pictures to answer this Sir grin

Land get grade by grade, there are lands you will come to, and you will just bow. There are lands you can never think of digging if you are not armed with pick axe, there are lands where laborers will not collect N5k just to excavate one partition of ground by 1 meter depth. In this very land I pictured, you have to break very hard stones inside the foundation to continue, and we are talking of a double wing of 3 flats here.

You cannot complete this excavation plus column bases within 5 days here, the soil is just too stony.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 11:29pm On Jun 01, 2017
EgunMogaji:
It's time to add the "Stalag 13" look to my site.
The perimeter is 450 feet.
How many Y whachacallit do I need and how many coiled razor wire?
Muchas gracias mi amigos.

Make I chop finish. Tonight I go give some details. I just did mine for two plots on three sides becos the front has iron rails about three weeks ago. So I did 120ft x 3=360ft. Anyway later with some pics to go with it.


Update: Fencing with Razor Sharp Barbed Wire using "American Fence Wire"
There are difference kind of fence wires... but with my research "American Fence Wire" is the best becos it does not rust.
Although the wires are made in China not America, it's better than other China made.
I used 13 rolls of the wires for the 360ft fence so that it could be real full, but you could also use 10-12 rolls,
only half of the 13th was used.
Each roll of the American Fence wires cost N8,500.
The Y Adapter used on the fence coping is N350 each and 60 was needed because
I used one on every 6ft interval/gap on the fence, but I bought 70 pieces so I can have two on each corner.
The installation was N25k and that includes the aluminium binding wire to tie the wires to the Y adapter.
The aluminium binding wire is better than regular steel binding wire becos it does not rust.
The regular non-American Fence Wires is around N5000-N6000 per roll. I chose the American Fence Wires for N8,500 for non-rust.

Cost for the 3 sides of 2 plots of 120x120ft = 360ft
American Fence Wires @ N8,500 per roll (13 Rolls) = N110,500
Y Adapter @ N350 per piece (70 pieces) = N24,500
Labor (including aluminium binding wires) = N25,000
TOTAL COST = N160,000

Please the above cost does not include the fence cost, just for the razor barbed wires ni o.
You may be able to find the wires cheaper somewhere else, so this is not a set price.

See pics below for Section 1.
And see more Section 2 pics two street down.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 11:33pm On Jun 01, 2017
Bookmarked.

We await real projects from inception to completion if possible.

chuksjuve:



Good evening bro, I just opened the thread.
I really appreciate your word of advice..
thanks!!!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 12:19am On Jun 02, 2017
johnson232:

Oga spyder which building u dey excavate for 5 days? shocked haba!
Abi na community u dey dig? or u use less than the required manpower?
Maybe we are not talking about the same size of buildings....i am talking abt simple residential buildings...

None of my buildings has ever exceeded one day for excavation, day1 setting out, day2 digging......i ensure more than enough men are on ground to dig to avoid excuses for enlongation.

Look at another example, a place where the foundation wall sides can collapse due to the sandy nature of the soil. The workers keep digging and re digging.

In the third picture, I pack in so many workers that there is no space for others to raise their hand.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 1:05am On Jun 02, 2017
More photos... see the actual write-up and cost two messages above.
Update: Fencing with Razor Sharp Barbed Wire using "American Fence Wire"

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 6:29am On Jun 02, 2017
spyder880:


If I am the client in that case, I will cancel the contract and even insist that the guy supervises the house from setting out till roofing (after all roofing poles could be "set out" too) grin Let us make sure these contractors end up without a dime after their hard work grin

Na play I dey play o, before my fellow contractors punch me on the nose.

@ Daboomb, my respects. grin

Oga Sypder,
This is 'tongue-in-cheek' and very much unlike you!
Anyways, you are always ma-guy. Much respects.

I still insist that "Pegging and digging trenches" are better negotiated together and agreed.
Once there is an "agreement", everybody is happy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 6:33am On Jun 02, 2017
spyder880:


OK, someone who feeds his family, pays for utilities and school fees, transports himself and his team to site is made to read and interprete the building plans, place the building on the right spot in the land, take all decisions to ensure a smooth start and continuation of the project, he now;

1. Sets out the building and marks out the trench lines(1 day)
2. Monitors the excavation work till completion (my last 5 sites done this year was an average of (5 days.)

This is 6 days work where you can even pay your workers as you alone can never set out a building. And someone pays you N20k to do all these in this hard country wey hard like iron grin

Until contractors start begging food on the streets.......... grin

If you use FIVE DAYS to dig a trench of an already Pegged land, then l will assume you did all the digging for a very large Mansion, all by yourself! grin grin
Share the loot please, let your boys chop out of it.

Five labourers will finish any trench for a block of four flats (2Up, 2down) in a single day.
Labour = #2,000 each.
Oga Spyder = #10,000 for supervision.

What else?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 6:38am On Jun 02, 2017
mufutau55:


Make I chop finish. Tonight I go give some details. I just did mine for two plots on three sides becos the front has iron rails about three weeks ago. So I did 120ft x 3=360ft. Anyway later with some pics to go with it.


Update: Fencing with Razor Sharp Barbed Wire using "American Fence Wire"
There are difference kind of fence wires... but with my research "American Fence Wire" is the best becos it does not rust.
Although the wires are made in China not America, it's better than other China made.
I used 13 rolls of the wires for the 360ft fence so that it could be real full, but you could also use 10-12 rolls,
only half of the 13th was used.
Each roll of the American Fence wires cost N8,500.
The Y Adapter used on the fence coping is N350 each and 60 was needed because
I used one on every 6ft interval/gap on the fence, but I bought 70 pieces so I can have two on each corner.
The installation was N25k and that includes the aluminium binding wire to tie the wires to the Y adapter.
The aluminium binding wire is better than regular steel binding wire becos it does not rust.
The regular non-American Fence Wires is around N5000-N6000 per roll. I chose the American Fence Wires for N8,500 for non-rust.

Cost for the 3 sides of 2 plots of 120x120ft = 360ft
American Fence Wires @ N8,500 per roll (13 Rolls) = N110,500
Y Adapter @ N350 per piece (70 pieces) = N24,500
Labor (including aluminium binding wires) = N25,000
TOTAL COST = N160,000

Please the above cost does not include the fence cost, just for the razor barbed wires ni o.
You may be able to find the wires cheaper somewhere else, so this is not a set price.

See pics below for Section 1.
And see more Section 2 pics two street down.

Hajji M.

Good budget for the real thing. When executing a project, there is nothing like doing "one is one". It may be more expensive initially but way cheaper on the long run. My budget is less because I included the "Y" element in the gate cost and bought the razor from ebay here.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 7:09am On Jun 02, 2017
Daboomb:


If you use FIVE DAYS to dig a trench of an already Pegged land, then l will assume you did all the digging for a very large Mansion, all by yourself! grin grin
Share the loot please, let your boys chop out of it.

Five labourers will finish any trench for a block of four flats (2Up, 2down) in a single day.
Labour = #2,000 each.
Oga Spyder = #10,000 for supervision.

What else?

5 laborers to complete the excavation of a large mansion in 1 day and you pay them N2k each? grin grin

Sir, let us do an open challenge for the world to judge. I have a new foundation coming up this month, I have not fixed the starting date yet. Location is Enugu outskirts. Can I give you N100,000 to pay boys for the excavation and another N20,000 for you or anybody you choose to be on the grounds as supervision fees, here is the challenge.

If you can use N120k to deliver this foundation pegging and excavation till column bases are completed in 4 days, I will cough up another N100,000 as fine paid to you for winning the challenge, but if you cannot beat the deadline, you pay me just N10,000? What do you say Sir?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 8:08am On Jun 02, 2017
spyder880:


5 laborers to complete the excavation of a large mansion in 1 day and you pay them N2k each? grin grin

Sir, let us do an open challenge for the world to judge. I have a new foundation coming up this month, I have not fixed the starting date yet. Location is Enugu outskirts. Can I give you N100,000 to pay boys for the excavation and another N20,000 for you or anybody you choose to be on the grounds as supervision fees, here is the challenge.

If you can use N120k to deliver this foundation pegging and excavation till column bases are completed in 4 days, I will cough up another N100,000 as fine paid to you for winning the challenge, but if you cannot beat the deadline, you pay me just N10,000? What do you say Sir?
E never reach like this na... cheesy
Una wan turn here to WWE... grin

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