johnson232:

E never reach like this na...
Una wan turn here to WWE...

I am sure Daboomb understands me not to mean any harm, but we live to learn everyday, maybe there is a method of excavation he will bring along which I need to learn for the reduction of costs and the overall good of the building industry. Contractors cannot do it alone, we need your input sometimes.

I am also interested to see costs crash, and any method that will see lesser time spent on processes, without compromising laid down engineering methods as contained in the building codes.

Any ideas will be welcomed.

Thank you all.

Daboomb:


If you use FIVE DAYS to dig a trench of an already Pegged land, then l will assume you did all the digging for a very large Mansion, all by yourself!
Share the loot please, let your boys chop out of it.

Five labourers will finish any trench for a block of four flats (2Up, 2down) in a single day.
Labour = #2,000 each.
Oga Spyder = #10,000 for supervision.

What else?

Oga, I will have to disagree with you here. A block of four flats, say 2 bedroom flat semi detached, two on the ground floor and two on the first floor will have a perimeter of about 120m and about 20 or above column bases (pad footings). It will take more than 3days to do the digging and another 2 days to the the excavation of the pad footings.

By increasing the number of crew members the job can be done in fewer number of days

spyder880:


5 laborers to complete the excavation of a large mansion in 1 day and you pay them N2k each?

Sir, let us do an open challenge for the world to judge. I have a new foundation coming up this month, I have not fixed the starting date yet. Location is Enugu outskirts. Can I give you N100,000 to pay boys for the excavation and another N20,000 for you or anybody you choose to be on the grounds as supervision fees, here is the challenge.

If you can use N120k to deliver this foundation pegging and excavation till column bases are completed in 4 days, I will cough up another N100,000 as fine paid to you for winning the challenge, but if you cannot beat the deadline, you pay me just N10,000? What do you say Sir?

. Nice challenge indeed.

spyder880:


I am sure Daboomb understands me not to mean any harm, but we live to learn everyday, maybe there is a method of excavation he will bring along which I need to learn for the reduction of costs and the overall good of the building industry. Contractors cannot do it alone, we need your input sometimes.

I am also interested to see costs crash, and any method that will see lesser time spent on processes, without compromising laid down engineering methods as contained in the building codes.

Any ideas will be welcomed.

Thank you all.

Oga no argument in this thing... Sometime it is easier said than done.

We are to pipe a duplex.. The client look at it as two days job but was telling a week for a good job.. Took us a week and 1 day

mufutau55:
More photos... see the actual write-up and cost two messages above.
Update: Fencing with Razor Sharp Barbed Wire using "American Fence Wire"

Hajji M.

Thank your Sir.

Hajj "Quiet Thunder"

twinskenny:



Oga no argument in this thing... Sometime it is easier said than done.

We are to pipe a duplex.. The client look at it as two days job but was telling a week for a good job.. Took us a week and 1 day

You slacker

You're supposed to beat your job proposals and do it in 4 days.

If you need a quality tiler, call me. Experienced in all kinds of tile and marble with proven track record of quality . reach me on 07034497734

mufutau55:


Couple of those MACKS with Chekitaut, and you never have to work again o. Nah lifetime retirement.

Hajji M.

The question is: Who retires first...Egunmogaji or Chekitaut?

I will put money on Cheki.

spyder880:


5 laborers to complete the excavation of a large mansion in 1 day and you pay them N2k each?

Sir, let us do an open challenge for the world to judge. I have a new foundation coming up this month, I have not fixed the starting date yet. Location is Enugu outskirts. Can I give you N100,000 to pay boys for the excavation and another N20,000 for you or anybody you choose to be on the grounds as supervision fees, here is the challenge.

If you can use N120k to deliver this foundation pegging and excavation till column bases are completed in 4 days, I will cough up another N100,000 as fine paid to you for winning the challenge, but if you cannot beat the deadline, you pay me just N10,000? What do you say Sir?

Better be careful with your challenge.

There is a certain man in my village that can chop 10 people food and do 10 people work.

Using the calculation, he will do the whole work in half a day

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InvertedHammer:


Better be careful with your challenge.

There is a certain man in my village that can chop 10 people food and do 10 people work.

Using the calculation, he will do the whole work in half a day

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That man will be something else

But Enugu lands are very hard, do you know that there was a burial in my place that was delayed because the ground is too hard. Young men in the village started early in the morning and were taking turns to dig with pick axe, remove loose sand with shovel and continue to dig till evening.

I was there at the burial and we were going there to cheer the boys on, drop money and drop drinks for them to hasten up. At the end, the man was buried around 7.30 pm! Digging a grave in some villages in Enugu cost around N25,000, 6 ft length x 6 ft depth., soakaway is around N50,000.

abdulwastecx:


Oga, I will have to disagree with you here. A block of four flats, say 2 bedroom flat semi detached, two on the ground floor and two on the first floor will have a perimeter of about 120m and about 20 or above column bases (pad footings). It will take more than 3days to do the digging and another 2 days to the the excavation of the pad footings.

By increasing the number of crew members the job can be done in fewer number of days

Thank you Sir, plus the unplanned inconveniences, community youths stopping work, local government and state government regulators being unnecessarily troublesome, and if you have a smaller plot where sand cannot be thrown far from the space, it could delay digging further as you have to delay some partitions, cast some bases and then come back to excavate the rest of the foundation after about a week.

InvertedHammer:

The question is: Who retires first...Egunmogaji or Chekitaut?
I will put money on Cheki.

LOL. Good question.

Hajji M.

diordaves:


Good budget for the real thing. When executing a project, there is nothing like doing "one is one". It may be more expensive initially but way cheaper on the long run. My budget is less because I included the "Y" element in the gate cost and bought the razor from ebay here.

Please share the eBay link. Thanks.

Juokorow:

Please share the eBay link. Thanks.

For the UK site; go to eBay.co.uk and search with "NATO Razor wire"

diordaves:


For the UK site; go to eBay.co.uk and search with "NATO Razor wire"

1) how was shipping/clearing

2) how did it compare to local

Erico2k2 how far?

EgunMogaji:


1) how was shipping/clearing

2) how did it compare to local

Erico2k2 how far?

Baba we are blessed long time..how's evry

EgunMogaji:


You slacker

You're supposed to beat your job proposals and do it in 4 days.

Heheheh

EgunMogaji:


1) how was shipping/clearing

2) how did it compare to local

Erico2k2 how far?

In Nigeria they do it by "bundle". So a bundle in Nigeria is on average 10k for the real non rust one. But the problem is you are never sure of the length. From asking the length in Nigeria is less than 80m for 10k. At least in Delta.

However, for about £21 you could get the real thing of 150m on eBay. My shipping was hand luggage so "free". But from the UK a Kg by air freight to Lagos is about £3. I'm not sure of the weight. Sea shipping can't be more than £40 for the whole lot to complete a 100 by 60 plot. So it's a balancing act really.

diordaves:


In Nigeria they do it by "bundle". So a bundle in Nigeria is on average 10k for the real non rust one. But the problem is you are never sure of the length. From asking the length in Nigeria is less than 80m for 10k. At least in Delta.

However, for about £21 you could get the real thing of 150m on eBay. My shipping was hand luggage so "free". But from the UK a Kg by air freight to Lagos is about £3. I'm not sure of the weight. Sea shipping can't be more than £40 for the whole lot to complete a 100 by 60 plot. So it's a balancing act really.

Plz what are we talking about here ,I came to class late

diordaves:

Good budget for the real thing. When executing a project, there is nothing like doing "one is one". It may be more expensive initially but way cheaper on the long run. My budget is less because I included the "Y" element in the gate cost and bought the razor from ebay here.

You are right Boss. I have a contractor who is charging me 150-160k for the whole job but will not disclose to me which type of wires he will use or how full the wires will be... So I decided to do it on my own. At least I know the quality of the materials and the closeness of the wires.

So you bought the wires from ebay and have it shipped to Naija?

Hajji M.

EgunMogaji:

Thank your Sir.
Hajj "Quiet Thunder"

Wetin man go do.... My time is almost up o.

Hajji M.

erico2k2:

Plz what are we talking about here ,I came to class late

Read my post above (on previous page) about "Razor Sharp Fence Wires" and see the pictures too...

Hajji M.

mufutau55:


Wetin man go do.... My time is almost up o.

Hajji M.

Epe fun wa Sir.

A o ma riyin ba.

erico2k2:

Plz what are we talking about here ,I came to class late

Class Prefect came late.

Now where is that my flogging meme

erico2k2:

Plz what are we talking about here ,I came to class late

We are talking about razor wire for fence. Scroll back to Haji M's photos.

mufutau55:


You are right Boss. I have a contractor who charges me 150-160k for the whole job but will not disclose to me which type of wires he will use or how full the wires will be... So I decided to do it on my own. At least I know the quality of the materials and the closeness of the wires.

So you bought the wires from ebay and have it shipped to Naija?

Hajji M.

Yes. Bought on eBay, took them along to Nigeria with my normal luggage allowance.

diordaves:

Yes. Bought on eBay, took them along to Nigeria with my normal luggage allowance.

Very good way to do it.

Hajji M.

chidexy:
Good morning folks. Can our experts in the house, Chief Dr Hajji M and co help me take a look at this quote that I got for POP ceiling. The POP ceiling is only to be done on the upstairs.

First the dimensions
1st sitting room is 30m²
2nd sitting room is 25m²
2 sit out for the sitting rooms is 30m²
The steps up till upstairs is 35m²
Total area to be covered is 120m²
His charge for workmanship is 1.5k per m² totaling 180k

MATERIALS
1) 42 bags of white cement @ 3.8k each = 160k
2) 40kg of sponge (fillers) @ 1.5k/kg = 60k
3) 1 big roll of binding wire = 9k
4) 6 packs of concrete nails @ 2.5k each = 15k
5) 1 roll of imperial soap = 1.5k
6) 5 litres of groundnut oil = 2,5k
Total for material = 248k

GRAND TOTAL = 430k

I must say you have a very good deal. Go for it.

EgunMogaji:


Class Prefect came late.

Now where is that my flogging meme

D way we dey take find £££ nor dey make man see road

diordaves:


We are talking about razor wire for fence. Scroll back to Haji M's photos.

Noted

If you use FIVE DAYS to dig a trench of an already Pegged land, then l will assume you did all the digging for a very large Mansion, all by yourself!
Share the loot please, let your boys chop out of it.

Five labourers will finish any trench for a block of four flats (2Up, 2down) in a single day.
Labour = #2,000 each.
Oga Spyder = #10,000 for supervision.

What else?

spyder880:


5 laborers to complete the excavation of a large mansion in 1 day and you pay them N2k each?

Sir, let us do an open challenge for the world to judge. I have a new foundation coming up this month, I have not fixed the starting date yet. Location is Enugu outskirts. Can I give you N100,000 to pay boys for the excavation and another N20,000 for you or anybody you choose to be on the grounds as supervision fees, here is the challenge.

If you can use N120k to deliver this foundation pegging and excavation till column bases are completed in 4 days, I will cough up another N100,000 as fine paid to you for winning the challenge, but if you cannot beat the deadline, you pay me just N10,000? What do you say Sir?

My Oga Spyder, l am wondering why you keep towing this path?
If we must take a challenge, we should at least be speaking about the same thing.
I have quoted again, my initial post, upon which l based my argument.

It was based on a FOUR FLAT Configuration (2-Up, 2-Down)
Now, you throw a challenge, without stating whether your challenge conforms to the configuration ls stated in my assertion?

How can yo use the trench-digging of a "Big Mansion" with that of a Four Flats?
Moreover, l have seen some of the Trenches dug by our Contractors, some are no deeper that 2feet, in a good red soil.

So, if you clearly state the terms of your challenge and it conforms to my initial post, l will certainly take up your challenge.

And please dont forget to add 'transport fee' for me and my boys to the location you want us to work in.

I am not ruling out the fact that some terrains can be challenging (As in those one with Rocks that you showed in those picture) but we all know that when we make these points, we are speaking from an "average and generalized" point of view.
Not one or two, specific cases that are not the norm.

abdulwastecx:
Oga, I will have to disagree with you here. A block of four flats, say 2 bedroom flat semi detached, two on the ground floor and two on the first floor will have a perimeter of about 120m and about 20 or above column bases (pad footings). It will take more than 3days to do the digging and another 2 days to the the excavation of the pad footings.

My able Engineer, I am not very sure what you mean by the bolded.
20m or above for column base? is that an 'area' or 'depth' of trench measurement?
In saying it will take more than 3days, you did not state how many Labourers are involved in those 3days?
Is it five , ten or just two labourers?

Digging the 'Trenches' is included in "Excavation" of Pad footings now?
All 'DIGGINGS' that have to do with foundation, is included in that statement of 'digging trenches'.

Finally, to make arguments meaningful and beneficial to all of us, we should make ourselves clear and conform to the same points in the argument.
Bless both of you.

Daboomb:
If you use FIVE DAYS to dig a trench of an already Pegged land, then l will assume you did all the digging for a very large Mansion, all by yourself!
Share the loot please, let your boys chop out of it.

Five labourers will finish any trench for a block of four flats (2Up, 2down) in a single day.
Labour = #2,000 each.
Oga Spyder = #10,000 for supervision.

What else?



My Oga Spyder, l am wondering why you keep towing this path?
If we must take a challenge, we should at least be speaking about the same thing.
I have quoted again, my initial post, upon which l based my argument.

It was based on a FOUR FLAT Configuration (2-Up, 2-Down)
Now, you throw a challenge, without stating whether your challenge conforms to the configuration ls stated in my assertion?

How can yo use the trench-digging of a "Big Mansion" with that of a Four Flats?
Moreover, l have seen some of the Trenches dug by our Contractors, some are no deeper that 2feet, in a good red soil.

So, if you clearly state the terms of your challenge and it conforms to my initial post, l will certainly take up your challenge.

And please dont forget to add 'transport fee' for me and my boys to the location you want us to work in.

I am not ruling out the fact that some terrains can be challenging (As in those one with Rocks that you showed in those picture) but we all know that when we make these points, we are speaking from an "average and generalized" point of view.
Not one or two, specific cases that are not the norm.




My able Engineer, I am not very sure what you mean by the bolded.
20m or above for column base? is that an 'area' or 'depth' of trench measurement?
In saying it will take more than 3days, you did not state how many Labourers are involved in those 3days?
Is it five , ten or just two labourers?

Digging the 'Trenches' is included in "Excavation" of Pad footings now?
All 'DIGGINGS' that have to do with foundation, is included in that statement of 'digging trenches'.

Finally, to make arguments meaningful and beneficial to all of us, we should make ourselves clear and conform to the same points in the argument.
Bless both of you.

My oga, the 120m means 120 meters