Mujtahida:

Which position has Omeruo not played in the backline except the left back?
The position being debated here is the center back ie who partners Ekong?

Joebie:
I'm not questioning Iwobi's class as you put it. My question is if Iwobi is out of form as we saw him at a point in time recently will you rather start ahead of an in-form Moses Simon on LW. Both players play that position. We have seen an in-form Moses Simon. Many of our forwards are versatile. Even Ahmed Musa has played LW for us many times in the past.

Experiencing a deep = out of form

Mujtahida:

On this Osimhen issue the preferred approach is to just watch for now. A raft of guys playing for championship sides in England na im dem prefer. No wahala with that. But Osimhen has questions on his head. How can those questions be answered if he's not given an opportunity to answer them. You set exam. You lock the key to the exam Hall preventing a student from taking the exam. How then can the student prove himself?

Osimhen =fingers crossed for now.

Joebie:
Okay lets follow your logic:

Since Omeruo fumbled as CB against Zambia he has NEVER returned there.
Against Zambia Ndidi played RB, ahead of Shehu
Omeruo was RB versus Algeria ahead of Shehu. Shehu replaced him in the 66th minute.
Ebuehi started as RB against Corsica ahead of Shehu in the absence of Omeruo
Omeruo started as RB against Senegal ahead of Ebuehi and Shehu
Shehu started as RB against Togo ahead of Ebuehi in the absence of Omeruo.

So this follows that... (although Rohr makes the final say)

modified**
Let me help you.
So far it follows that :
1. Omeruo is preferred among the trio at RB
2. Omeruo has never been used to pair Ekong at CB since the Zambia mishap
3. Shehu has been a regular call up and his closest rival seems to be the new entrant, Ebuehi
4. Awaziem even though a new entrant will most likely get the nod since Rohr has not tempered with that Awaziem-Ekong CB partnership even in test training matches. That's more like continuity in the absence of Balogun. It is LESS risky than an Omeruo-Ekong CB partnership AGAIN after a long time.

eterisan:
zambia away omeruo started at cb..rb..ever since...but since we have ebuehi and shehu..I do not think he is in contention for the rb slot..cb...its him against awaziem...if he loses his spot against awaziem in the absence of balogun then that means he is declining and personally I do not see that..not yet

forgiveness:


Omeruo was played as a DMF this season in his club. Perhaps, is poor defending costs him that position.

As you said, he fumbled against Zambia hence the need to play him at the RB.

If Aweriem performs better than him in camp, he should go and sidon for corner.

Experience should be used when we are talking about a player with class and not one below average player.

I hope he does well at preseason with Chelsea but for now..

AIG07:
I won't love us to go in cycle. As long as he is been invited, he gets the nod ahead of S. Moses...

Probably because it is the 'Art' of the game.

Icon4s:


Again you use club examples for national team selection.

Joebie:
Well, that's for you as a coach.

Icon4s:


On this Osimhen issue, I think I am slightly with forgiveness on this. I had always opined that let us see him kick the ball as a professional before giving him the call-up. Yes he has started playing for Wolfsburg but sincerely speaking he has not done anything of note to be invited to be Super Eagles.

However, I feel Rohr knows Osimhen and the team better than I do so I join you in just watching.

AIG07:
their matter tire me ooo. They often think what's applicable and workable in football clubs can also be feasible in International football... They are two different ball game.

De don't ask d reason why D english stuck to Rooney prior to and after Euro '16, why an inform but young Martial(commanding a starting shirt den in Man U) had to sit on the bench and watch his seniors play @Euros same with Renato Sanchez etc...

Icon4s:


On this Osimhen issue, I think I am slightly with forgiveness on this. I had always opined that let us see him kick the ball as a professional before giving him the call-up. Yes he has started playing for Wolfsburg but sincerely speaking he has not done anything of note to be invited to be Super Eagles.

However, I feel Rohr knows Osimhen and the team better than I do so I join you in just watching.

TheGoodJoe:


We are happy when forgiveness talks this way.

Mujtahida:

That's just it. I will not hesitate to put him on the back foot if he does not give the desired input that has made us cry out for him. I followed the debate here on the question of Odey, Olatubosun and Muazzam. Today we know better. With Osimhen we shall soon know too and in that knowledge we shall either say woowwwww and say my my we've struck gold or just let out a dismissive hiss and say na wash jare. Matter go end.

TheGoodJoe:


Concerning if Rohr trust Omeruo more, I can not ascertain that until the camping reports. For now, my money is on Awaziem. Unless reports states otherwise, Awaziem ticks the right boxes.

Concerning Angelino and co., there are clearly better talents out there. City needs to tighten their scouting methods to unearth top quality youngsters. We are just spending money on whatever kid that shows promise. We need to treat the Etihad campus with as much seriousness as we do with the senior team. Although some transfers are questionable, like Sterling and Nolito.

Mujtahida:

Camping continues. Awaziem might even do better in camp and Omeruo will start. Like dedebanky pointed out Rohr might want to maintain consistency. But Awaziem will have his day. Let him just keep up doing great in training and at the drills (*winks)

AIG07:
yes, and that is what you'll get from 70% national team coaches...

forgiveness:


How many times has he played as a CB?
The last time he played, he fumbled big time.

Joebie:
Omeruo. Two pictures here. I have seen him show glimpses of a pure central defender in some occasions and a limited defender in other occasions. Never a ball playing defender.
Again it's not set in stone. The question is which role can they play best?

maidaboi:
because your players where not invited is why you are saying this trash
don't worry solanke, seyi ojo, ajagun, thiago ilori will be invited for our next month friendly with biafra
crazy dude hahahahahahahahaha....!

Icon4s:


First of all, I want you to name those 'better players' that have not yet been invited and We would gladly recommend them to Rohr and his coaching crew if truly they are better than the player(s) you want them to replace.

Concerning the issue of replacement are you telling me that for the current Eagles team we don't have at least 2 or 3 players per position?


Victor Moses, Leon Balogun and Mikel Obi who are 3 regulars are out and we are not even crying over it because we have capable replacements.

Also that team is so dynamic such that most of those players are capable of playing at least 2 positions. Any of Etebo, Iwobi, Moses, Musa, Success, Simon, Onyekuru can play each other's positions fairly comfortably. Injury to any 2 or 3 and we still have a pool to pick replacements from. Our midfield boast of Mikel, Onazi, Ndidi, Shehu, Agu, Ogu and sometimes Etebo. What of the defense? Even in Balogun's absence we still have 3 good CBs in Ekong, Omeruo and Awaziem. Recall also that Ndidi can also play CB. Echiejile, Shehu, Ebuehi, Madu and the newly invited Yousef are there as wing backs.

I am not saying this team is there yet but the fact remains that we are gradually getting there.

If there is any player the coaches feel can add quality to the team they will invite.

And if your favorite players are not there,of which I know is the main reason for this your clamour for back ups, let them keep working hard they may get their chances one day.

TheGoodJoe:


The question is, is Omeruo a better choice for the set-up Rohr wants to use in th next game. Definitely Omeruo is a ball playing defender but I doubt he is a better baller than Awaziem. The reports from Camp will give a better picture. For now, I believe Rohr intends to build a possession-heavy side that requires ball playing defenders and Awaziem has my pick. Especially after spending time with Lopetegui at Porto, a coach I admired his possession-heavy style when he coached Isco, Thiago Alcantara, Morata and Sarabia in the Junior levels of Spain.

TheGoodJoe:

We are happy when forgiveness talks this way.

forgiveness:



Of course, you know most of them are players of Nigerian origin Abroad.

Oga! Shehu Abdullahi, Ikechuckwu Ezenwa, Victor Osimhen, Ibrahim Alhassan, Noah(an injured player) etc should not have been called ahead of some players in Europe, both for the friendly and AFCON.

Why are the coaching crew doing selective selection?

I thought friendlies are meant to give some boys opportunity to show themselves.

Why bring the ones you can easily dispose and no one go raise eyebrow.

When competition come na dat time go clear. Enough said.

They keep working while you bring bench warmers to gain status, ba.

I am very much aware of the antics behind team selection.

Which players be even my players self?

Joebie:
If your figure is accurate, does it follow that the other 30% fail?

Mickael2:



Kai theGoodJoe are you the one saying this? Omeruo has played as a RB before, as a DMF before, have you ever seen a RB who can't play the ball well? I know some DMF's are limited passers but RBs and LBs are always serious ballers, Omeruo I can even argue is a better ball player than....Balogun(Ekong dey play ball wella, or atleast he did so at the Olympics).

In fact I remember you were the one saying that Omeruo was solid against Zambia despite his mistake(which I agree well enough), do you think that Awaziem can keep(....what is the name of that big and mean Zambian guy?) quiet?