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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:29pm On Jun 04, 2017
Togo halt their losing run.

Ivory Coast get trounced by an average Dutch team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 9:33pm On Jun 04, 2017
I'm suprise that those defending Oshimen inclusion ask "who orji go bench" as if Oshimein fit bench anyone, I just feel hard work should be rewarded. Nacho prove himself in USA and city before he was invited to the SE not his U-17 record.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:44pm On Jun 04, 2017
zicky:
I'm suprise that those defending Oshimen inclusion ask "who orji go bench" as if Oshimein fit bench anyone, I just feel hard work should be rewarded. Nacho prove himself in USA and city before he was invited to the SE not his U-17 record.

Do you think Osimhen is invited on under 17 record or what Rohr has seen of him?

Afterall, he invited Esiti once and has not invited him again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 9:48pm On Jun 04, 2017
tbaba1234:


Do you think Osimhen is invited on under 17 record or what Rohr has seen of him?

Afterall, he invited Esiti once and has not invited him again.
most people that defend his inclusion do so because of his u-17 exploit. After that achievement, he has not done anything to warrant his inclusion in SE.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:51pm On Jun 04, 2017
zicky:
most people that defend his inclusion do so because of his u-17 exploit. After that achievement, he has not done anything to warrant his inclusion in SE.

But Rohr has seen him up close enough to know what he is about..

Esiti has been playing well with Gent but has not being invited again. Do you not think the coach has an idea of what he is looking for in a player?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 9:54pm On Jun 04, 2017
komekn:


Youth football shows potential it doesn't confirm class or ability. Chrisantus was golden U17 boy how far did he go

Chuba Akpom has been Killing it at youth level but cannot make the big jump to senior football.

If he was that good lowly struggling Wolfsburg would not have left him on the bench in a win or loose everything final relegation match with Eintracht Braunschweig.

It is your club present and continous form and performance that justifies your inclusion not your past glories into the national team.

Osimhen has none to underpin his selection beyond, the coaches think he is good.
you will soon find out why Victor osimhen kept getting invited, just relax he will proof it on the pitch
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:55pm On Jun 04, 2017
Not long ago, we were told about why Odey should replace Iheanacho because of Iheanacho's lack of game time and Odey's goals.

Osimhen has only been hampered by injury, his ability is not in doubt not by the coaches in Wolfsburg, not by Rohr..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 9:56pm On Jun 04, 2017
maidaboi:
injury free osimhen would have started more games
osimhen started from u17 to u20 to u23 to super eagle through different coaches
and remember the coach and director that bought him have all been sack yet the new coach still gave him some game time when he returned from injury
he is quality, i rest my case
#respect
injury free Joel Obi would've a top star by now bt ....we should not base our argument on sentiment, the guy has potentials bt that is not enough to invite him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 9:58pm On Jun 04, 2017
komekn:


Youth football shows potential it doesn't confirm class or ability. Chrisantus was golden U17 boy how far did he go

Chuba Akpom has been Killing it at youth level but cannot make the big jump to senior football.

If he was that good lowly struggling Wolfsburg would not have left him on the bench in a win or loose everything final relegation match with Eintracht Braunschweig.

It is your club present and continous form and performance that justifies your inclusion not your past glories into the national team.

Osimhen has none to underpin his selection beyond, the coaches think he is good.

Sir, In as much as I am not a fan of Osimhen, Your submission on his involvement in Wolfsburg make or mar relegation fight can tempt one to think he is one 25-year old striker. But hey......this guy is just 18 yrs and he was good enough to make the bench for that all-important clash. To me, that's enough. Not all African players at that young age are favoured in Europe that way.
Let's allow Rohr plan his team. My main concern is convincing (and vital) wins and good football

I'm not sure Osimhen will even make the match day squad against SA which means Rohr, (who I doubt will continue coaching SE after the 2018 WC) has future plans for the SE.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:06pm On Jun 04, 2017
tbaba1234:


But Rohr has seen him up close enough to know what he is about..

Esiti has been playing well with Gent but has not being invited again. Do you not think the coach has an idea of what he is looking for in a player?
SE can boost of so many DM now, maybe if it were the Ruben Gabriel, olofinjana or what this guys name(that aboki that was red carded against Greece at the world cup) era he would've cut it, so forget that guy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 10:08pm On Jun 04, 2017
ChrisKels:
The "Deutch" is sodomising our brothers from the coast of ivory, real bad. 5goals to nil, it would have been worse if Robben and Janssen had been more team players. What happened to the elephants? Could this be another Wilmot factor playing out?

It's Dutch as Deutch can be mistaken as German and not The Netherlands

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 10:12pm On Jun 04, 2017
do4luv14:


yes a rookie yes, a rookie who can inspire and co-ordinate our defence to stand strong always, and to wither every storm,

not the shakey panicky, and un-inspire keeper like AKPEYI,

if you doubt me, go ask SHURUMO,ADEBOYE, and EYEAMA
who is adeboye?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:12pm On Jun 04, 2017
Clementoke:


Sir, In as much as I am not a fan of Osimhen, Ur submission on his involvement in Wolfsburg make or mar relegation fight can tempt one to think he is one 25-year old striker. But hey......this guy is just 18 yrs and he is made d bench for that all-important clash. To me, that's enough . Not all African players at that young age are favoured in Europe that way.

Enough to be selected over proven, tested and established players playing in better teams and better leagues.

We know anything that diews not have clearly defined methodology and measurement for excellence and ability will be open to abuse particularly in Nigeria.

My query is very simple create a level playing field for players to get selected on merit not subjective judgement.

Are there better proven and established players yes there are. This boy is a youth player however if he has proven his quality at 17/18 in his parent club just like Mbappe and Gabriel have done there will be no debate.

He is recovering from Injury has played barely 45 minutes of total football all season in lowly relegation facing club and is invited to SE camp. There is no basis beyond the coach likes him.

It sends the wrong signal it clearly is not a level playing field. It is not the right imagery needed for the SE sends a negative signal.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:17pm On Jun 04, 2017
zicky:
SE can boost of so many DM now, maybe if it were the Ruben Gabriel, olofinjana or what this guys name(that aboki that was red carded against Greece at the world cup) era he would've cut it, so forget that guy.

Esiti is a very good player in my opinion but not Rohr's kind of player.

Osimhen must be hitting the right notes in training.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:19pm On Jun 04, 2017
Kog45:
Simple point?if u don't have a problem having Iheanacho on d bench for a season or two,well we Nigerians don't want him to be on d bench going through Pep's drilling without playing time.Haba Super Eagle Number 9 going through drilling for a season or two

You are free to have your opinion. I am pointing out mine. What I felt was most important for Nacho in his formative years was to learn the disciplined lifestyle, work ethic, healthy living and tactical discipline of players who work under Guardiola.

The lessons gained from these is more important than regular playing time in a midtable team. If Nacho leaves now, I am satisfied.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 10:20pm On Jun 04, 2017
komekn:


Enough to be selected over proven, tested and established players playing in better teams and better leagues.

We know anything that diews not have clearly defined methodology and measurement for excellence and ability will be open to abuse particularly in Nigeria.

My query is very simple create a level playing field for players to get selected on merit not subjective judgement.

Are there better proven and established players yes there are. This boy is a youth player however if he has proven his quality at 17/18 in his parent club just like Mbappe and Gabriel have done there will be no debate.

He is recovering from Injury has played barely 45 minutes of total football all season in lowly relegation facing club and is invited to SE camp. There is no basis beyond the coach likes him.

It sends the wrong signal it clearly is not a level playing field. It is not the right imagery needed for the SE sends a negative signal.

But he is not going to make match day squad na.
We already have two good strikers in Iheanacho and Kayode in the team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:28pm On Jun 04, 2017
Clementoke:


But he is not going to make match day squad na.
We already have two good strikers in Iheanacho and Kayode in the team

It doesn't matter.

Invitation by merit not associated past glories or assumed potential to be groomed.

He should be left alone to develop and prove himself worthy in his club first before the SE.

What about the players proven, tested and established not even given a notice.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:28pm On Jun 04, 2017
komekn:


Enough to be selected over proven, tested and established players playing in better teams and better leagues.

We know anything that diews not have clearly defined methodology and measurement for excellence and ability will be open to abuse particularly in Nigeria.

My query is very simple create a level playing field for players to get selected on merit not subjective judgement.

Are there better proven and established players yes there are. This boy is a youth player however if he has proven his quality at 17/18 in his parent club just like Mbappe and Gabriel have done there will be no debate.

He is recovering from Injury has played barely 45 minutes of total football all season in lowly relegation facing club and is invited to SE camp. There is no basis beyond the coach likes him.

It sends the wrong signal it clearly is not a level playing field. It is not the right imagery needed for the SE sends a negative signal.


Simple. Rohr, just like Amunike, Siasia, the past and current Wolfsburg Manager see a bright future in Osimhen. That was why Arsenal and Tottenham were also interested in getting him on their books.

There is a huge potential there and Rohr sees it. This is beyond the playing time debate. We are talking of a kid recovering from a long term injury and a team like Wolfsburg rushed him back. Most of the players people are screaming should have been called ahead of him will not be rushed back into the team that way.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:34pm On Jun 04, 2017
komekn:


Enough to be selected over proven, tested and established players playing in better teams and better leagues.

We know anything that diews not have clearly defined methodology and measurement for excellence and ability will be open to abuse particularly in Nigeria.

My query is very simple create a level playing field for players to get selected on merit not subjective judgement.

Are there better proven and established players yes there are. This boy is a youth player however if he has proven his quality at 17/18 in his parent club just like Mbappe and Gabriel have done there will be no debate.

He is recovering from Injury has played barely 45 minutes of total football all season in lowly relegation facing club and is invited to SE camp. There is no basis beyond the coach likes him.

It sends the wrong signal it clearly is not a level playing field. It is not the right imagery needed for the SE sends a negative signal.

There are players who fit seamlessly into the tactical and future plans of the coach. Osimhen has this intuition of knowing precisely what the coach wants. In his first screening with Amunike, Osimhen understood Amunike wanted the striker defending.

If you watch the way Osimhen wraps his foot around the ball when shooting, you see the natural gift. This gift is what makes Rohr very interested in the guy.

You might feel a regular player in championship with talent is enough to get the nod. However, that same player might not fit the coach's strategy.

The signal Rohr is sending is that he knows what he wants and Osimhen reaching his full potential with the Super Eagles is a priority.

As I said, this is beyond our understanding. This is the time we take notes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 10:37pm On Jun 04, 2017
komekn:


It doesn't matter.

Invitation by merit not associated past glories or assumed potential to be groomed.

He should be left alone to develop and prove himself worthy in his club first before the SE.

What about the players proven, tested and established not even given a notice.

So which of the Number 9, who have been "proven, tested and established" has not been called sir?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:44pm On Jun 04, 2017
zicky:
I'm suprise that those defending Oshimen inclusion ask "who orji go bench" as if Oshimein fit bench anyone, I just feel hard work should be rewarded. Nacho prove himself in USA and city before he was invited to the SE not his U-17 record.
You have to understand that some players have a cult followership on this thread. At the mention of certain names, all manner of of objectivity fly out of the window.
Osimhen is one of such players.
I hope this supposed cult followership don't reduce the intelligent quotient of this thread.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:48pm On Jun 04, 2017
tbaba1234:
Not long ago, we were told about why Odey should replace Iheanacho because of Iheanacho's lack of game time and Odey's goals.

Osimhen has only been hampered by injury, his ability is not in doubt not by the coaches in Wolfsburg, not by Rohr..

Please I would like to know who told u this.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:49pm On Jun 04, 2017
komekn:


Youth football shows potential it doesn't confirm class or ability. Chrisantus was golden U17 boy how far did he go

Chuba Akpom has been Killing it at youth level but cannot make the big jump to senior football.

If he was that good lowly struggling Wolfsburg would not have left him on the bench in a win or loose everything final relegation match with Eintracht Braunschweig.

It is your club present and continous form and performance that justifies your inclusion not your past glories into the national team.

Osimhen has none to underpin his selection beyond, the coaches think he is good.

If Osimhen was not that good, he will not be an option for Wolfsburg because of his age and length of time on the side lines.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:51pm On Jun 04, 2017
goldfish80:

You have to understand that some players have a cult followership on this thread. At the mention of certain names, all manner of of objectivity fly out of the window.
Osimhen is one of such players.
I hope this supposed cult followership don't reduce the intelligent quotient of this thread.

Some people might have their favorites but Rohr has seen more of Osimhen than anyone here.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 10:53pm On Jun 04, 2017
ChrisKels:
Maybe a few people think through this line with me, but I think it is worth the mention. To the powers that be, the bigwigs in here, I direct this question, please why don't we read of NFF's push to cap Manuel Akanji as much as we read of their pushes for other guys his age? I have seen him play severally and from my own standards, he is okay. He just won his place as a starter with Basel and I think we should have arms round his neck as we do Awaziem now because we don't have that much options at the back and Balogun ain't getting any younger. The boy doesn't hide his Nigerian heritage, evident is the presence of Nigerian flag on his instagram handle (I guess). He might love the prospect of playing with this young, vibrant Eagles team. They(Awaziem and Akanji) wouldn't make bad partners *future wise* in eagle's defense if we got him in the fold.
GBAM
komekn will not see this one because he is not in england

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:54pm On Jun 04, 2017
goldfish80:

You have to understand that some players have a cult followership on this thread. At the mention of certain names, all manner of of objectivity fly out of the window.
Osimhen is one of such players.
I hope this supposed cult followership don't reduce the intelligent quotient of this thread.

It is baffling that people take their time to break down their reasons for taking a particular side of a debate and you come up with such ridiculous and baseless statement as the above.

None of us called for the inclusion of Osimhen to the best of my knowledge. What I am certain is that most of us know we have a gem in this young man.

The actions by the team mangers at Wolfsburg, Amunike, Siasia and Rohr certifies our beliefs that he is quality. You can keep viewing analysis from the spectacle of playing time but the fact is that football is deeper than that.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 10:59pm On Jun 04, 2017
komekn:


On Orji current form and performance it is not a matter of debate, Orji has far more justification than Osimhen.

But so do a lot of other players of Nigerian unfortunately they are not liked by Rohr.
you see the difference is
orji has to start from youth teams before playing for main team WHILE
Oshimen start from the main team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 11:02pm On Jun 04, 2017
zicky:
injury free Joel Obi would've a top star by now bt ....we should not base our argument on sentiment, the guy has potentials bt that is not enough to invite him.
injury free joel obi was a super eagle player

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 11:05pm On Jun 04, 2017
maidaboi:
you see the difference is
orji has to start from youth teams before playing for main team WHILE
Oshimen start from the main team
what's the difference, still Orji played for the main team before Oshimen, had more game time and impact for the main team. Nacho went through similar route, youth team then main team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 11:09pm On Jun 04, 2017
maidaboi:
injury free joel obi was a super eagle player
And after his injury he wasn't invited back to the SE because of his past record, that's what I'm saying, so injury should not be an excuse fo oshimen.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 11:10pm On Jun 04, 2017
zicky:
what's the difference, still Orji played for the main team before Oshimen, had more game time and impact for the main team. Nacho went through similar route, youth team then main team.
they trust oshimen talents more

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:12pm On Jun 04, 2017
zicky:
what's the difference, still Orji played for the main team before Oshimen, had more game time and impact for the main team. Nacho went through similar route, youth team then main team.

Osimhen signed officially during the winter break and was injured soon after. When would he have had his debut? He only recovered at the end of the season and was immediately thrust into the first team.

Orji on the other hand was fit all season and got his chance eventually.

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