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Re: Chop Off Your Hand?! Was Jesus Serious? - Paul Ellis by MuttleyLaff: 1:52am On Jun 05, 2017 |
PastorAIO:Mba mba mba Chalk and cheese. Incongruent Butter o nse ounjẹ ọbọ 'cyrus cylinder brouhaha' is not a hyperbole PastorAIO:I am glad you accept that the Cyrus Cylinder is not brouhaha and now recognise how you improperly used it in your ''Inside all that you wrote the only thing worth responding to is this Cyrus Cylinder brouhaha'' construct PastorAIO:If you were in the audience only you wouldnt know that Jesus is using a hyperbole and a scaremongering tactic to make people feel worried or frightened concerning committing adultery (i.e. the context) and besides where have I stated that cutting off your hands is at odds with the ''general context'' because knowing you and your pedantic self, I consciously & deliberately didnt cite or refer to Matthew 5:30 in any of the three listed criteria I submitted PastorAIO:Open a thread if you want to remark on whether or not the whole notion of hell is a hyperbole besides read below my succinct opinion of hell PastorAIO:You're missing seeing in the context, the anger management forest because you're focusing on the trees text You can bet that right now, it is a relief that I am not defined by whatever image you've exactly conjured up thinking of me PastorAIO:Hell originated from Greek mythology and so therefore is a Greek invention Appropriately speaking, Ghenna, which was real in biblical Israel was consistently used by Jesus as a metaphor for the lake of fire and the bible says Death and Hades will be thrown into same lake of fire. PastorAIO:The bible says that Jesus was taken up into a cloud and states He will return the same and/or similar way He went up, coming in a cloud with power and great glory PastorAIO:No because hyperbole is from a Greek word meaning ''excess'' and that hyperboles are not narratives but are figures of speech used in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect towards making a point Examples: It rained cats and dogs yesterday, this conveying the message that it rained heavily yesterday I could sleep for a year, this conveying a message of being completely bushwhacked and a want to sleep for a long time to recover |
Re: Chop Off Your Hand?! Was Jesus Serious? - Paul Ellis by PastorAIO: 2:30am On Jun 05, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff:\ So you can't see how it applies to what you are saying. Should I try to explain? hmmm... okay Brouhaha: a noisy and overexcited reaction or response to something. "the brouhaha over those infamous commercials" Claiming Cyrus is a Marduk worshipper and going on at length about it ignorantly can be described as a brouhaha. Some might see that as hyperbolic but that is just a matter of degree. Banging on about it in sheer ignorance and being arrogant about it, no matter how slightly is to me a brouhaha. I am glad you accept that the Cyrus Cylinder is not brouhaha Where did I accept that? and why is it that you are only responding where you mistakenly believe you may have room to expound your ignorance. Why didn't you go to the other thread and respond there? Even a small admission of error is so hard for you. Yet you will call yourself a christian. If you were in the audience only you wouldnt know that Jesus is using a hyperbole and a scaremongering tactic to make people feel worried or frightened concerning committing adultery (i.e. the context)So Jesus is a scaremonger to you now. It doesn't surprise me after all it is you that said Yahweh is not El Elyon and Melchizedek (the priest that Christ's priesthood is modelled on) wasn't serving Yahweh. By the way, this entire thread is about matthew 5:30. and you are talking about general context, oh my lord, the levels of irony ... Open a thread if you want to remark on whether or not the whole notion of hell is a hyperboleI don't need to. You said that cutting off the hand is just hyperbole. Yet in the exact same passage that we are discussing Jesus said that the reason for cutting off the hand is that it is better to be saved with one hand than to enter hell with your whole body. So hell is a crucial part of this discussion. If the hand cutting is hyperbole, then I ask you: Is hell a hyperbole too? You're missing seeing in the context, the anger management forest because you're focusing on the trees text Mr Context. You and context sha.. and all the while demonstrating no grasp of the context of what is being discussed. You can be sure that you are as idiotic as I think you are and it is plainly demonstrated all over NL with you attempts to distort and misinterpret and twist the bible into all sorts of hideous doctrines thought up by your demonic mind. Hell originated from Greek mythology and so therefore is a Greek invention So you're saying that Jesus is peddling Greek inventions in Matt 5:22 and Hades I take it is real biblical Israel concept in your mind. and Death is actually a physical person that can be thrown into a physical lake of fire. O ma se o. Yeye yi ma ti pupo ju. The bible says that Jesus was taken up into a cloudI know the bible says that. that is not the point I was making. If you are not stupid go and read it again and respond intelligently. No because hyperbole is from a Greek word meaning ''excess'' Even sef, come to think of it. Cutting of the hand is not hyperbole. Otherwise the reasonable thing jesus was suggesting would be to just chop a finger off or cut the wrist a bit rather than excessively cutting off the whole thing. And neither would 'it rained monkeys and Muttleylaffs' be hyperbole. Hyperbole would be saying that you are caught in a torrential rainfall when in fact it is just drizzling. |
Re: Chop Off Your Hand?! Was Jesus Serious? - Paul Ellis by MuttleyLaff: 4:41am On Jun 05, 2017 |
PastorAIO:w w w.dictionary.com/browse/brouhahaa Brouhaha: loud confused noise; commotion; uproar. e n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brouhaha A brouhaha, from French brouhaha, is a state of social agitation when a minor incident gets out of control, sometimes referred to as an uproar or hubbub Where is the noise, uproar or commotion? Where and what is ''brouhaha'' in me saying: ''Actually Cyrus did worship Marduk. Cyrus' admission is found in the ''The Cyrus Cylinder'', a cuneiform tablet now in the British Museum'' PastorAIO:Going on at length? Banging on about it? Didnt know you're a snowflake PastorAIO:Aje kun iya ni o je. Aje kun iya ni o je E ni ti o to nina, tin de na de ni'. Aje kun iya ni o je Is it by force? Are you deaf of hearing? What part in ''I will publish my replies in my own time. Until then I am in waiting mode and still waiting'' do you have a problem with understanding? PastorAIO:You're lying like a persia rug. PastorAIO:No, He isnt. I simply used a crude word to explain a point PastorAIO:Keep up misquoting me ooo. Sooner than you'll know that your pinocchio nose will soon fall and drop off PastorAIO:Matthew 5:30 is a text born out of an adultery context PastorAIO:Do yourself a favour and read Matthew 5:27-28 (i.e. one-two verses above Matthew 5:30) and then Matthew 5:31-32 (i.e. one-two verses below Matthew 5:30) to see that adultery is the crux and subject matter of how ''cutting off hands'' came in to being at the teaching on the mountain PastorAIO:You've made a mockery and nonsense of sentence, in not tying in the sentence along with the crux of the matter taught in its paragraph What you should have being thinking of is why is Jesus using Matthew 5:30 to serve as a deterrent to curb adultery PastorAIO:What I am saying is, Jesus used and said Ghenna in Matt 5:22 PastorAIO:Sheol is more of a proper and real biblical Israelite concept of where the dead are ''interned'' Death is not a physical person but it will cease to exist because it will be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical lake of fire PastorAIO:God bless you and your therapist |
Re: Chop Off Your Hand?! Was Jesus Serious? - Paul Ellis by PastorAIO: 8:58am On Jun 05, 2017 |
Behold!! The effects of irreligion and satanism.... MuttleyLaff: |
Re: Chop Off Your Hand?! Was Jesus Serious? - Paul Ellis by MuttleyLaff: 9:20am On Jun 05, 2017 |
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Re: Chop Off Your Hand?! Was Jesus Serious? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 2:18pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
mfaniyi:Thank you so much my brother..... Yes.. what u said there is all true.. Click on my profile name and you will see so many topics teaching about Christ Jesus and His Finished Work on the Cross. Truths about our new birth in Christ and generally how the Cross of Christ changed everything for humanity... You will love my topics. Have a great day my broda. |
Re: Chop Off Your Hand?! Was Jesus Serious? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 10:56pm On Aug 09, 2018 |
Thank you Lord Jesus |
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Re: Chop Off Your Hand?! Was Jesus Serious? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 6:17pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
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