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We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by maclatunji: 3:15pm On Jun 05, 2017
Joe Igbokwe

The Yoruba Nation I know has been in the Opposition even since the inception of Nigeria and yet they are not the worst in Nigeria. After the annulment of the June 12, 1993, presidential elections won by Moshood Abiola, the powers that be tried to console the Yoruba by appointing Ernest Shonekan the head of the interim Government. Did Yoruba accept Shonekan? No, they did not. They did not come out on the streets with Gbedu Drums to celebrate Yoruba and Chief Shonekan.

Yoruba proudly told the powers that be that you can only be the Head of State in Nigeria through two methods: either through an election or through a successful coup d’état. In the case of Shonekan, he did not ascend to power through either of the above processes. He was therefore rejected by the Yoruba. Now, if it were the Igbo, would they have reasoned this way? I doubt it. In the struggle for June 12, Abiola was put in detention, and his wife killed. Several Yoruba people were in detention and some hounded abroad. Abiola was eventually killed. But did the Yoruba go to war or resort to self-determination? No, they did not. They fought back using common sense and the power of ideas.

In 1998 when the presidency was zoned to the South-West because the late MKO Abiola has paid the supreme price, the Yoruba preferred Olu Falae but the powers that be forced Obasanjo on Nigeria. Now did the Yoruba accept Obasanjo because he is a Yoruba man? They did not. This unique race rejected Obasanjo for the eight years he was in office, from 1999 to 2007. To date the Yoruba still believe that Obasanjo wasted their eight years. OBJ was rejected even in his own ward, in his local government, and in the whole of the Western Region. That is the Yoruba nation for you. Can the Igbo do this? I doubt it. After the 2003 elections, the PDP stole all the states in the South-West, leaving only Lagos because they were afraid of the trouble Lagosians will give them. The Former Governor of Lagos State, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, fought back like a wounded lion with his committed associates to reclaim almost all the States in the South-West. He did not stop there; he spread his intimidating political tentacles across Nigeria, forming alliances across building networks and bridges, and the result is what we saw on Saturday, March 28, and April 11, 2015.

Now, can any leader in the South-East achieve this feat? Where is the character? Where is the courage? Where is the wisdom and understanding? Where is the Common sense? Where is the discipline? Where is the capacity and capability?

Source: http://www.opinions.ng/not-need-war/

cc: Lalasticlala, Mynd44

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Nobody: 3:20pm On Jun 05, 2017
We in the South West (The Yorubas) have always believed that brains, intelligence and reasoning will always beat brawns and braggadocio, particularly when it comes to politics.

But realistically, we can't expect all tribes (or group of people) to think and act the same way; though using the vehicle of hate, lies and insults is deplorable and inexcusable.

If the South East (The Igbos) want out, let them push for a referendum for their core SE states and have their Biafra.

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by pezest: 3:25pm On Jun 05, 2017
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maclatunji:
Joe Igbokwe

The Yoruba Nation I know has been in the Opposition even since the inception of Nigeria and yet they are not the worst in Nigeria. After the annulment of the June 12, 1993, presidential elections won by Moshood Abiola, the powers that be tried to console the Yoruba by appointing Ernest Shonekan the head of the interim Government. Did Yoruba accept Shonekan? No, they did not. They did not come out on the streets with Gbedu Drums to celebrate Yoruba and Chief Shonekan.

Yoruba proudly told the powers that be that you can only be the Head of State in Nigeria through two methods: either through an election or through a successful coup d’état. In the case of Shonekan, he did not ascend to power through either of the above processes. He was therefore rejected by the Yoruba. Now, if it were the Igbo, would they have reasoned this way? I doubt it. In the struggle for June 12, Abiola was put in detention, and his wife killed. Several Yoruba people were in detention and some hounded abroad. Abiola was eventually killed. But did the Yoruba go to war or resort to self-determination? No, they did not. They fought back using common sense and the power of ideas.

In 1998 when the presidency was zoned to the South-West because the late MKO Abiola has paid the supreme price, the Yoruba preferred Olu Falae but the powers that be forced Obasanjo on Nigeria. Now did the Yoruba accept Obasanjo because he is a Yoruba man? They did not. This unique race rejected Obasanjo for the eight years he was in office, from 1999 to 2007. To date the Yoruba still believe that Obasanjo wasted their eight years. OBJ was rejected even in his own ward, in his local government, and in the whole of the Western Region. That is the Yoruba nation for you. Can the Igbo do this? I doubt it. After the 2003 elections, the PDP stole all the states in the South-West, leaving only Lagos because they were afraid of the trouble Lagosians will give them. The Former Governor of Lagos State, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, fought back like a wounded lion with his committed associates to reclaim almost all the States in the South-West. He did not stop there; he spread his intimidating political tentacles across Nigeria, forming alliances across building networks and bridges, and the result is what we saw on Saturday, March 28, and April 11, 2015.

Now, can any leader in the South-East achieve this feat? Where is the character? Where is the courage? Where is the wisdom and understanding? Where is the Common sense? Where is the discipline? Where is the capacity and capability?

Source: http://www.opinions.ng/not-need-war/

cc: Lalasticlala, Mynd44

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Fooools everywhere

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Nobody: 3:25pm On Jun 05, 2017

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by maclatunji: 3:27pm On Jun 05, 2017
pezest:
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Fooools everywhere

Wise man that cannot spell. Oya, present your template for development.

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by maclatunji: 3:31pm On Jun 05, 2017
deji15:
Igbos cannot play opposition politics.

Going by what is happening now, I must admit, they are not very good at it. They were not doing well with the so-called 'Azikwe Jonathan' in power too.

Doing badly in power (at least, that is what they claimed when GEJ was there).

Doing badly out of power.

People like Joe Igbokwe, Senator Ken Nnamani, Governor Rochas Okorocha and Dr. Oby Ezekwesili should do more for the region.

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by reptile1: 3:33pm On Jun 05, 2017
maclatunji:
Joe Igbokwe

The Yoruba Nation I know has been in the Opposition even since the inception of Nigeria and yet they are not the worst in Nigeria. After the annulment of the June 12, 1993, presidential elections won by Moshood Abiola, the powers that be tried to console the Yoruba by appointing Ernest Shonekan the head of the interim Government. Did Yoruba accept Shonekan? No, they did not. They did not come out on the streets with Gbedu Drums to celebrate Yoruba and Chief Shonekan.

Yoruba proudly told the powers that be that you can only be the Head of State in Nigeria through two methods: either through an election or through a successful coup d’état. In the case of Shonekan, he did not ascend to power through either of the above processes. He was therefore rejected by the Yoruba. Now, if it were the Igbo, would they have reasoned this way? I doubt it. In the struggle for June 12, Abiola was put in detention, and his wife killed. Several Yoruba people were in detention and some hounded abroad. Abiola was eventually killed. But did the Yoruba go to war or resort to self-determination? No, they did not. They fought back using common sense and the power of ideas.

In 1998 when the presidency was zoned to the South-West because the late MKO Abiola has paid the supreme price, the Yoruba preferred Olu Falae but the powers that be forced Obasanjo on Nigeria. Now did the Yoruba accept Obasanjo because he is a Yoruba man? They did not. This unique race rejected Obasanjo for the eight years he was in office, from 1999 to 2007. To date the Yoruba still believe that Obasanjo wasted their eight years. OBJ was rejected even in his own ward, in his local government, and in the whole of the Western Region. That is the Yoruba nation for you. Can the Igbo do this? I doubt it. After the 2003 elections, the PDP stole all the states in the South-West, leaving only Lagos because they were afraid of the trouble Lagosians will give them. The Former Governor of Lagos State, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, fought back like a wounded lion with his committed associates to reclaim almost all the States in the South-West. He did not stop there; he spread his intimidating political tentacles across Nigeria, forming alliances across building networks and bridges, and the result is what we saw on Saturday, March 28, and April 11, 2015.

Now, can any leader in the South-East achieve this feat? Where is the character? Where is the courage? Where is the wisdom and understanding? Where is the Common sense? Where is the discipline? Where is the capacity and capability?

Source: http://www.opinions.ng/not-need-war/

cc: Lalasticlala, Mynd44


Another demented pig on the loose. Your opinion is not needed. U may choose to remain with Yoruba people forever. That's ain't our biz.

The biafran hustle must pay bigtime. Haters drink acid

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Nobody: 3:33pm On Jun 05, 2017
maclatunji:


Going by what is happening now, I must admit, they are not very good at it. They were not doing well with the so-called 'Azikwe Jonathan' in power too.

Doing badly in power (at least, that is what they claimed when GEJ was there).

Doing badly out of power.

People like Joe Igbokwe, Senator Ken Nnamani, Governor Rochas Okorocha and Dr. Oby Ezekwesili should do more for the region.

No, they cannot. They will rather bring down the house than play opposition politics

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/its-not-easy-to-play-opposition-politics-in-nigeria-ngige/

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Nobody: 3:37pm On Jun 05, 2017
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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Jabioro: 3:38pm On Jun 05, 2017
Joe Igbokwe was a true igbo man, the son of soil who knows the onus.. he has told his people what to do,how to do it and the template to follow if they wanted to achieved BIAFRA but many would not read through the thinning line..

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by mpianya39(m): 3:41pm On Jun 05, 2017
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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Paperwhite(m): 3:42pm On Jun 05, 2017
Joe Igbokwe antecedents shows he is not a true igbo man.Igbos don't ass-lick.

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by pezest: 3:43pm On Jun 05, 2017
maclatunji:


Wise man that cannot spell. Oya, present your template for development.

e pain am gringringrin

If u are angry try rat poison. That was what helped awolowo those days

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by maclatunji: 3:44pm On Jun 05, 2017
Paperwhite:
Joe Igbokwe antecedents shows he is not a true igbo man.Igbos don't ass-lick.

Very shallow submission. Empty pride and boastfulness does not add value to anyone talk less of group.

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by kingzizzy: 3:58pm On Jun 05, 2017
JohnXcel:
We in the South West (The Yorubas) have always believed that brains, intelligence and reasoning will always beat brawns and braggadocio, particularly when it comes to politics.

But realistically, we can't expect all tribes (or group of people) to think and act the same way; though using the vehicle of hate, lies and insults is deplorable and inexcusable.

If the South East (The Igbos) want out, let them push for a referendum for their core SE states and have their Biafra.

And what happens to Igbos in the not so core states such as Delta, Rivers, Benue and Edo?

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Nobody: 4:14pm On Jun 05, 2017
kingzizzy:


And what happens to Igbos in the not so core states such as Delta, Rivers, Benue and Edo?
Then they would have to go home.

Although the extent of the boundaries of ''home'' would have to be defined by Biafra and the authorities of those regions (Delta, Rivers, Benue and Edo).
Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by ProWalker: 4:21pm On Jun 05, 2017
JohnXcel:
We in the South West (The Yorubas) have always believed that brains, intelligence and reasoning will always beat brawns and braggadocio, particularly when it comes to politics.

But realistically, we can't expect all tribes (or group of people) to think and act the same way; though using the vehicle of hate, lies and insults is deplorable and inexcusable.

If the South East (The Igbos) want out, let them push for a referendum for their core SE states and have their Biafra.


You mean those 5 potopoto hamlets? No way, Igbos are interested in oil and access to the sea, which non of those 5 potopoto villages can guarantee.

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by ProWalker: 4:23pm On Jun 05, 2017
kingzizzy:


And what happens to Igbos in the not so core states such as Delta, Rivers, Benue and Edo?

They should move in with their kinsmen in the core igbo states.

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Nobody: 4:30pm On Jun 05, 2017
ProWalker:



You mean those 5 potopoto hamlets? No way, Igbos are interested in oil and access to the sea, which non of those 5 potopoto villages can guarantee.
Bros yea grin grin grin. Abeg make we leave dem.

Itesiwaju ile Yoruba lo kan wa cheesy
Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by kingzizzy: 4:31pm On Jun 05, 2017
ProWalker:


They should move in with their kinsmen in the core igbo states.
You mean that they should leave their ancestral lands and move just because Nigeria created states? So the Igalas of Anambra should leave their ancestral lands and move to Kogi? The Idomas of Enugu should leave thwrw lands and move move to Benue?

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by kingzizzy: 4:34pm On Jun 05, 2017
JohnXcel:
Then they would have to go home.

Although the extent of the boundaries of ''home'' would have to be defined by Biafra and the authorities of those regions (Delta, Rivers, Benue and Edo).

What do you mean go home? You mean that Igbo clans that were put in Benue such as the Umu- Ezeokaha people should abandon the land of their fore- fathers just because they were carved into Benue?

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Nobody: 4:37pm On Jun 05, 2017
kingzizzy:


What do you mean go home? You mean that Igbo clans that were put in Benue such as the Umu- Ezeokaha people should abandon the land of their fore- fathers just because they were carved into Benue?
Let me reiterate: the boundaries of ''home'' would have to be defined by Biafra and the authorities of those regions.

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Nobody: 4:37pm On Jun 05, 2017
Joe Igbokwe has arranged himself with Bola Tinubu. His 419 tricks is putting food on his table. I cant blame him though. If you cant beat them join them.
Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by maclatunji: 6:24pm On Jun 05, 2017
pezest:


e pain am gringringrin

If u are angry try rat poison. That was what helped awolowo those days

Why would I be pained by illogical presentation? It is either you have value to add to the discussion or you can continue posting like a Pry 1 backsitter.

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by greenermodels: 6:58pm On Jun 05, 2017
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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Ovamboland(m): 9:10pm On Jun 05, 2017
Ibos went to war for the first time they were out of power with the killing of Ironsi and lost' 'bigly'.

The second time they lost out in the power equation with the electoral loss of their adopted son Azikiwe Ebele, they predictably resurrected the failed Biafra project. Once the get something like VP or Senate president post they will calm down till the next loss of power.

Courage to go the whole hog this time is failing them as they are afraid of herdsmen turned soldiers coming to rape their women again

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by KratosCorp: 9:25pm On Jun 05, 2017
Unfortunately you have zero idea how things work. Igbos are making 12 dimensional chess moves. So all you get from all the 2 dimentional Olatunjis of this world is confusion and much more confusion.

But guess what, your collective confusion is just begining. More of it is on the way.

maclatunji:


Going by what is happening now, I must admit, they are not very good at it. They were not doing well with the so-called 'Azikwe Jonathan' in power too.

Doing badly in power (at least, that is what they claimed when GEJ was there).

Doing badly out of power.

People like Joe Igbokwe, Senator Ken Nnamani, Governor Rochas Okorocha and Dr. Oby Ezekwesili should do more for the region.

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by kernel505: 9:33pm On Jun 05, 2017
deji15:
Igbos cannot play opposition politics.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/03/forget-igbo-presidency-massob-tells-ndigbo/

Is opposition sidelining a people from FG project, recruitment of DSS only Kastina took more than, what the entire South East states got? Is opposition throwing away merits for federal character?

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by kernel505: 9:40pm On Jun 05, 2017
maclatunji:


Going by what is happening now, I must admit, they are not very good at it. They were not doing well with the so-called 'Azikwe Jonathan' in power too.

Doing badly in power (at least, that is what they claimed when GEJ was there).

Doing badly out of power.

People like Joe Igbokwe, Senator Ken Nnamani, Governor Rochas Okorocha and Dr. Oby Ezekwesili should do more for the region.

Sometimes, I pity the level of gullibility ravaging West. Is Ex President Jonathan an Igbo man?
A man for over 50years, has been fighting for Confederation or an independent state, and you're asking him to play opposition, are they the same?

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by maclatunji: 11:06pm On Jun 05, 2017
KratosCorp:
Unfortunately you have zero idea how things work. Igbos are making 12 dimensional chess moves. So all you get from all the 2 dimentional Olatunjis of this world is confusion and much more confusion.

But guess what, your collective confusion is just begining. More of it is on the way.


Again, empty boasts. Sheesh, some of you guys are full of yourselves to the point of odioum even when your lack of sophistication is beating you with a bat.

If there's any major tribe confused at the moment it is the Igbos not because you don't have great men and women but because you have allowed charlatans and the ignorant define you to the world.

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Ganiyat72(f): 11:54pm On Jun 05, 2017
maclatunji:


Again, empty boasts. Sheesh, some of you guys are full of yourselves to the point of odioum even when your lack of sophistication is beating you with a bat.

If there's any major tribe confused at the moment it is the Igbos not because you don't have great men and women but because you have allowed charlatans and the ignorant define you to the world.
My fellow yoruba muslim bros, kudos on ur new found job chief political adviser on Igbo matters

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Re: We Do Not Need War By Joe Igbokwe by Nobody: 12:46am On Jun 06, 2017
kernel505:


Is opposition sidelining a people from FG project, recruitment of DSS only Kastina took more than, what the entire South East states got? Is opposition throwing away merits for federal character?

You mean like the former director of immigration recruited mainly people fro SE? You mean the Igbonisation agenda of Pius Anyim? You are too greedy to share a country with you need Biafra.

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