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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:37am On Jun 11, 2017
zicky:
. For the 2nd goal, we had cornerkick which our defenders went to contest which is normal, whose responsibility it is the stand with the SA player, Onazi, he's the shortest of our defenders had no business in the SA 18yard and as the most experienced player on thhe field, he couild not coordinate his team.


to be honest....rohr really need to save his Job and reputation... many of so called experience players like onazi need to start sitting on the bench....even the musa upon his introduction yesterday still played rubbish... likewise elderson echiejie
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by signz: 8:37am On Jun 11, 2017
The major lesson I picked from this game is that we need our experienced players.

Apart from guys like Moses Ikeme Balogun and Mikel who didn't make it due to injuries, we need to bring back Ideye, Sone and Enyema.

We need a mix of experience and youth.

Someone suggested we start #bringbackenyeama campaign on twitter, I think it's time we take that suggestion serious.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:39am On Jun 11, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


That also crossed my mind during the game. Switch Iwobi and Etebo. Also instruct Onazi and Ndidi to get the ball to Iwobi.

So many wrongs yesterday but as expect the coaching crew to learn from it.
to be honest....wit you wit no offence
I think those indigenous assistants working wit rohr are empty skulls
especially that agu and Yusuf
u see RSA had to go call rantie to come play because of his past precedent playing Nigeria...
Yusuf claim to have been around for so long and still inexperienced

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:40am On Jun 11, 2017
An excerpt from Papa Guus Hiddink on Mikel Obi during the resurgence of Chelsea creates a picture of the deep role instructions.


For the midfielder, the instructions are crystal clear now. "He's good in short passing. I don't expect and I don't ask him to make the decisive final pass. He can but no, we let the other players do that. The talented players can then explore their qualities."

There is a big reason for that "NO". Doing that affects the team's balance. Instead Onazi did it all game. Going for long balls and neglecting the simple short passes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:42am On Jun 11, 2017
Humility017:


I truly blame rohr...for iwobi lapses
he should have use the boy on the 10 role and let etebo play frm the flanks
watching Algeria match should have taught him that... where iwobi disappeared into tin air
I think Rohr wanted a little bit of power and muscle in midfield that was why Etebor was preferred in the middle.
I hope this will be the last Kelechi is seen playing the lone striker role. I have always said he's a liability up front on his own. Yesterday was one of such nights again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:44am On Jun 11, 2017
goldfish80:

I think Rohr wanted a little bit of power and muscle in midfield that was why Etebor was preferred in the middle.
I hope this will be the last Kelechi is seen playing the lone striker role. I have always said he's a liability up front on his own. Yesterday was one of such nights again.

Kelechi Iheanacho was an asset up front yesterday. Unfortunately we did not have the right personnel in midfield to use him to cause damage. If not, we would have been two or three goals up first half.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:46am On Jun 11, 2017
Humility017:

to be honest....wit you wit no offence
I think those indigenous assistants working wit rohr are empty skulls
especially that agu and Yusuf
u see RSA had to go call rantie to come play because of his past precedent playing Nigeria...
Yusuf claim to have been around for so long and still inexperienced
Please the Nigerian assistants wouldn't have done anything. Rohr was the man in charge, the buck stops at his office, he makes all the decision. Why not mention Rohr's foreign assistants?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jakandeola(m): 8:46am On Jun 11, 2017
Lionessza:









SA 2- nigeria 0. Lmfao
dont let me get mad at u cos if I do u regret urself snd cry to sleep
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:46am On Jun 11, 2017
Humility017:

to be honest....wit you wit no offence
I think those indigenous assistants working wit rohr are empty skulls
especially that agu and Yusuf
u see RSA had to go call rantie to come play because of his past precedent playing Nigeria...
Yusuf claim to have been around for so long and still inexperienced

I will be honest with you, I think they are also the problem. It makes Rohr a bit lenient on the old brigade and keeper role during selection. They are African coaches and they are suppose to have inside intel on the South African team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:49am On Jun 11, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Kelechi Iheanacho was an asset up front yesterday. Unfortunately we did not have the right personnel in midfield to use him to cause damage. If not, we would have been two or three goals up first half.
Don't start abeg. What exactly did he do yesterday? How many shots on target did he muster? How many shots off target did he have? If it was Ideye who had such poor stats, everyone would have been all over him.
I have always told you people not make demi gods off these players. You're not helping them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by cromz(m): 8:49am On Jun 11, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Let Ndidi play it. He also played as a central defender and his defensive instinct is good. Esiti needs to do more than sit because of his passing. Ndidi has the attributes to make a good defensive shield.
no doubt ndidi is a good dmf but he's better playing as a roaming midfielder a big man is most suitable for the deep playing role I would prefer a midfield that consist of iwobi or ajagun (in mikel's absence) ndidi,onazi or etebo(roaming midfielder) john ogu,Mikel agu or esiti(deep role MF).
By the way I don't know why rohr can't invite igali or this our boy that plays in Spain have forgotten his name sef.Cus sentiments apart akpeyi is wack.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:53am On Jun 11, 2017
cromz:
no doubt ndidi is a good dmf but he's better playing as a roaming midfielder a big man is most suitable for the deep playing role I would prefer a midfield that consist of iwobi or ajagun (in mikel's absence) ndidi,onazi or etebo(roaming midfielder) john ogu,Mikel agu or esiti(deep role MF).
By the way I don't know why rohr can't invite igali or this our boy that plays in Spain have forgotten his name sef.Cus sentiments apart akpeyi is wack.

Keep in mind, two exceptional defensive shields were Mascherano at Liverpool and Makalele at Chelsea. Flamini in his hay days was exceptional too. Gatusso did a fantastic work shielding the Milan defence.

So it must not be a big man, although most good fours are big men. Players like Busquets, Mikel Obi, Edmilson, Casemiro, Wanyama, Nzonzi etc.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:56am On Jun 11, 2017
cromz:
no doubt ndidi is a good dmf but he's better playing as a roaming midfielder a big man is most suitable for the deep playing role I would prefer a midfield that consist of iwobi or ajagun (in mikel's absence) ndidi,onazi or etebo(roaming midfielder) john ogu,Mikel agu or esiti(deep role MF).
By the way I don't know why rohr can't invite igali or this our boy that plays in Spain have forgotten his name sef.Cus sentiments apart akpeyi is wack.

I feel Ndidi should take the role. Become the next Oliseh. Stay disciplined. We have a lot of talented midfielders for Ndidi to bother himself with that. He should just sit deep and recycle the ball. He can do it and it will go a long way in helping the team succeed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by cromz(m): 8:57am On Jun 11, 2017
Good players dey rohr no go invite na academy players baba dey find here are some players I think should have been invited to the national team.
Manuel akanji (it's so sad we lost these one)
igali
sone aluko
ajagun
ideye(hasn't been invited in recent times)
Thiago ilori (dude would play the RB role better than the players we have)
nedum onuoha (experienced CB)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:59am On Jun 11, 2017
goldfish80:

Don't start abeg. What exactly did he do yesterday? How many shots on target did he muster? How many shots off target did he have? If it was Ideye who had such poor stats, everyone would have been all over him.
I have always told you people not make demi gods off these players. You're not helping them.

Kelechi Iheanacho's positioning and runs were precise. Unfortunately we did not have the right personnel to deliver the right passes for him to tear the South Africans apart.

You can not blame an attacker when the midfield supplied little to no balls. Watch the match again and see how many times Iheanacho was through on goal. Unfortunately the final balls were wrong.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:00am On Jun 11, 2017
cromz:
Good players dey rohr no go invite na academy players baba dey find here are some players I think should have been invited to the national team.
Manuel akanji (it's so sad we lost these one)
igali
sone aluko
ajagun
ideye(hasn't been invited in recent times)
Thiago ilori (dude would play the RB role better than the players we have)
nedum onuoha (experienced CB)

Apart from Awaziem, we fielded a team with playing experience. We just got the set up wrong.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lionessza(f): 9:04am On Jun 11, 2017
jakandeola:
dont let me get mad at u cos if I do u regret urself snd cry to sleep









Hahahaha you are forever issuing threats at me , why don't you just snap already I'm fuckn sick of these stupid threats.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:06am On Jun 11, 2017
goldfish80:

I think Rohr wanted a little bit of power and muscle in midfield that was why Etebor was preferred in the middle.
I hope this will be the last Kelechi is seen playing the lone striker role. I have always said he's a liability up front on his own. Yesterday was one of such nights again.

I agree wit you
the lad play better when played as a SS
let me tell you...rohr won't forbid those indigenous coaches input if they've any
Yusuf seems clueless
I remember back in school where I was always made assistants or deputy leader..
my boss never for once refuse my inputs
even at that most of the landsliding achievements we recorded all those times...were my initiative and ideas
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:11am On Jun 11, 2017
goldfish80:

I think Rohr wanted a little bit of power and muscle in midfield that was why Etebor was preferred in the middle.
I hope this will be the last Kelechi is seen playing the lone striker role. I have always said he's a liability up front on his own. Yesterday was one of such nights again.

from the previous match played in uyo prior the one of yesterday.....a good coach need no one to tell him that it takes a midfielders who read games and a creative midfield to outsmart the RSA defense...that's why aluko could Savage the day in our last meeting...
I was expecting the assistants like Yusuf who have been very much around to proffer the needed advice and also...rohr watch of past clips....
the play pattern wasn't different from our last outing
you wanna beat the South Africans....then score them first
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jakandeola(m): 9:12am On Jun 11, 2017
Lionessza:










Hahahaha you are forever issuing threats at me , why don't you just snap already I'm fuckn sick of these stupid threats.
hmm u knw I care and see u as a friend buy I hate wat u keep writing against naija
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:13am On Jun 11, 2017
goldfish80:

Please the Nigerian assistants wouldn't have done anything. Rohr was the man in charge, the buck stops at his office, he makes all the decision. Why not mention Rohr's foreign assistants?
something tells me....these indigenous coaches flaws will better be exposed during CHAN tourney
let's keep fingers crossed....that awka united coach...
seems the best for the now..
though I will want him as one of our next age grade team coach
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by cromz(m): 9:15am On Jun 11, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Apart from Awaziem, we fielded a team with playing experience. We just got the set up wrong.
I am not talking about only experience am also talking about quality elderson played woefully as LB,our forwards lacked the creativity to create deadly chances, the passes by our midfielders were too simple and predictable,the defenders lacked a leader someone who could instruct them to play well. our blocking dmf wasn't just good enough.
The players I mentioned here if given the chance would perform better than those that played.
The wings isn't all about speed and shooting our wingers lackrf vision and creativity they were just running aimlessly. An aluko would hv changed that game. slow calm and visionary wingers are very important to a team. So is the deep Dmf an experienced defender and a good goal keeper all this we lacked in the starting xi against SA yesterday.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:16am On Jun 11, 2017
Humility017:


from the previous match played in uyo prior the one of yesterday.....a good coach need no one to tell him that it takes a midfielders who read games and a creative midfield to outsmart the RSA defense...that's why aluko could Savage the day in our last meeting...
I was expecting the assistants like Yusuf who have been very much around to proffer the needed advice and also...rohr watch of past clips....
the play pattern wasn't different from our last outing
you wanna beat the South Africans....then score them first

Ironically, during the game yesterday I told someone if Aluko was in this team we would tear the South African's defence. Sad we have failed to use that man's talent in our team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by cromz(m): 9:19am On Jun 11, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Keep in mind, two exceptional defensive shields were Mascherano at Liverpool and Makalele at Chelsea. Flamini in his hay days was exceptional too. Gatusso did a fantastic work shielding the Milan defence.

So it must not be a big man, although most good fours are big men. Players like Busquets, Mikel Obi, Edmilson, Casemiro, Wanyama, Nzonzi etc.
which of our midfielders have d qualities of masherano or gatuso?? but we have big men who can do the job the likes of ogu,esiti,Mikel agu etc
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:19am On Jun 11, 2017
solonnachi:
All we are saying, Just bring back
1. Vincent Enyeama
2. Carl Ikeme
3. Mikel Obi
4. Victor Moses
5. Ola Aina
6. Leon Balogun
I don tire abeg!!!!

Add to that Sone Aluko proven tested and established quality player. I suggested on this thread ages ago that he brings more to the table than Iwobi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:20am On Jun 11, 2017
cromz:
I am not talking about only experience am also talking about quality elderson played woefully as LB,our forwards lacked the creativity to create deadly chances, the passes by our midfielders were too simple and predictable,the defenders lacked a leader someone who could instruct them to play well. our blocking dmf wasn't just good enough.
The players I mentioned here if given the chance would perform better than those that played.
The wings isn't all about speed and shooting our wingers lackrf vision and creativity they were just running aimlessly. An aluko would hv changed that game. slow calm and visionary wingers are very important to a team. So is the deep Dmf an experienced defender and a good goal keeper all this we lacked in the starting xi against SA yesterday.

An Iwobi in front of the defensive midfield earlier would have created better chances than Etebo, Onazi and Ndidi. Ndidi or Mikel Agu sitting deep in midfield would have provided better shielding.

Echiejile playing in a disciplined/defence first fashion would have reduced the gaps in the left side of our defence.

That is why I feel we had enough quality to execute the game. With better arrangement we would go far.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:22am On Jun 11, 2017
cromz:
which of our midfielders have d qualities of masherano or gatuso?? but we have big men who can do the job the likes of ogu,esiti,Mikel agu etc

I am talking in respect of Ndidi. Ndidi has exceptional qualities and if he plays in a disciplined fashion and make the shielding responsibility his own, we would have a gem in our hands.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lionessza(f): 9:22am On Jun 11, 2017
jakandeola:
hmm u knw I care and see u as a friend buy I hate wat u keep writing against naija








I haven't seen you telling your brothers to stop writing shyt about SA . Have you seen us starting threads to bash Nigeria and it's problems ,? Nope . But you start nasty threads about SA daily and we attend to you , you start ranting like crazy people.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:23am On Jun 11, 2017
cromz:
Good players dey rohr no go invite na academy players baba dey find here are some players I think should have been invited to the national team.
Manuel akanji (it's so sad we lost these one)
igali
sone aluko
ajagun
ideye(hasn't been invited in recent times)
Thiago ilori (dude would play the RB role better than the players we have)
nedum onuoha (experienced CB)

Go home, u are drunk.

U Contradicted ur academy claim with Akanji suggestion (though he's been capped by the swiss)

Tiago Ilori? Are you for real? Do u even know how he has been faring ever since he left Sporting? Another academy player(at Liverpool) and now a bench warmer at Reading in the Championship.

Nedum Onuoha? Experienced CB? What international football experience does Nedum have? BTW, have u ever seen Nedum suited up as a CB? Nedum is average at best and his position is RB. Nedum isn't as good as what we already have, besides he ditched us when he was a bit above average, I would rather we brought back Ambrose than give Nedum a call up, lest for remain patient till Aina's case is sorted out. We also have Nura in the pipeline.

Ligali if throughly he is a Nigerian, check

Ideye the hustler, check

Aluko, check

Ajagun? I would go for Azu Okechukwu instead.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by cromz(m): 9:24am On Jun 11, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


An Iwobi in front of the defensive midfield earlier would have created better chances than Etebo, Onazi and Ndidi. Ndidi or Mikel Agu sitting deep in midfield would have provided better shielding.

Echiejile playing in a disciplined/defence first fashion would have reduced the gaps in the left side of our defence.

That is why I feel we had enough quality to execute the game. With better arrangement we would go far.
didn't u notice d wastefulness of our striker, the wastefulness of moses simon,aimless runs by musa,poor goalkeeping by akpeyi,lack of control and understanding in our defense??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:25am On Jun 11, 2017
Dedebanky85:
Gosh!!! I can't take this sentimental analysis no more. There are some people that would defend certain players even if they show 2 owngoals in a game. Omeruo just proved to me today that he's internationally better than Awaziem. Guys international footy is not moimoi ooooo. Awaziem started getting jittery when we were faced with counters. Omeruo would never. Nobody cam ever convince me that cos Azuibike plays in Turkey he's not good. Taaaa! That boy is a MF Comptroller General. Depending on Aina's switch, Shehu should go to LB. Boy's a damn good player. He's just not been lucky to move to a good club. Against CMR, I don't wanna hear Iwobi and 1st 11 in d same statement. MF would be Ndidi Etebo and Mikel. Attack would be V.Moses, Aluko and Ideye. I'm not discarding Iheanacho but if we keep goimg to play 3 attack, Ideye is a beast in it. They way he plays, his take-ons, his football intelligence is well suited for a 3 man attack.

This match exposed Rohr's preference for only one formation. Makijg like for loke subs when you're down.
On another note I have never seen a country thatdiscards it's older. players due to the emergence of new talents. I know of Naija fans were French fans, they'd tell Koscienly to go and die, tell Giroud to go represent the Village team. On top yeye talent and newspaper derived imaginary transfers that never materialize, we go de front.
We play this nonsense against CMR, I'd happily wager on a CMR double victory and even make more money by betting that we ain't gonna score CMR. We hype average talents too much. It has gotta stop.

This is the heart of the problem discarding tried, tested and proven quality experienced players.

For young upstarts who play in youth teams in low level teams and leagues and or are confirmed bench warmers.

If you are not making waves in your club how on earth are you supposed to make waves in the SE.

There are exceptions if you are in Real Madrid, Chelsea with top world class players limiting your opportunities.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:25am On Jun 11, 2017
Dedebanky85:
Gosh!!! I can't take this sentimental analysis no more. There are some people that would defend certain players even if they show 2 owngoals in a game. Omeruo just proved to me today that he's internationally better than Awaziem. Guys international footy is not moimoi ooooo. Awaziem started getting jittery when we were faced with counters. Omeruo would never. Nobody cam ever convince me that cos Azuibike plays in Turkey he's not good. Taaaa! That boy is a MF Comptroller General. Depending on Aina's switch, Shehu should go to LB. Boy's a damn good player. He's just not been lucky to move to a good club. Against CMR, I don't wanna hear Iwobi and 1st 11 in d same statement. MF would be Ndidi Etebo and Mikel. Attack would be V.Moses, Aluko and Ideye. I'm not discarding Iheanacho but if we keep goimg to play 3 attack, Ideye is a beast in it. They way he plays, his take-ons, his football intelligence is well suited for a 3 man attack.

This match exposed Rohr's preference for only one formation. Makijg like for loke subs when you're down.
On another note I have never seen a country thatdiscards it's older. players due to the emergence of new talents. I know of Naija fans were French fans, they'd tell Koscienly to go and die, tell Giroud to go represent the Village team. On top yeye talent and newspaper derived imaginary transfers that never materialize, we go de front.
We play this nonsense against CMR, I'd happily wager on a CMR double victory and even make more money by betting that we ain't gonna score CMR. We hype average talents too much. It has gotta stop.

This is the heart of the problem discarding tried, tested and proven quality experienced players. For assumed new emerging talent, Mbappe, Rashford, Dele, these are classed as new emerging talent not players who are on the bench or youth team players. We have a warped definition of new talent.

For young upstarts who play in youth teams in low level teams and leagues and or are confirmed bench warmers.

If you are not making waves in your club how on earth are you supposed to make waves in the SE.

There are exceptions if you are in Real Madrid, Chelsea, etc, with top world class players limiting your opportunities.

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