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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:00pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
komekn: Nedum Onuoha?! Or another Nedum?! The one in floundering QPR? To be entirely honest with you, Awaziem, Balogun, Ekong and Omeruo are all better than him. I mean Balogun's own is definetly a sure bet, but y'all are forgetting the class Ekong exuded at the Olympics, he was our(no, the tournament's) best CB, who compares that with 'mince-meat' nedum? Nawa o. Dominic Iorfa is playing for which club again? Isn't it Wolves? Nawa oo 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:01pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Well I understand. But we can't still tell how things will eventually pan out for Solanke at Liverpool. komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:15pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Joebie: Not disputing his goals, rather disputing the asslicking that he did no wrong on Saturday. clear difference! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:21pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
An ideye or Macaulay (too bad he faded like fake ankara) or an Aaron Simon fits well into your scenario. komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:22pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
The team did wrong. We didn't play as a team. Iheanacho is a quality forward. But he is not in the mold of Aghahowa for example who scores most of his goals by individual effort. Emenike is another example of that kind of striker who can single highhandedly create and score. Kelechi on his part needs to have a clear sight at goal or be set up by a team mate. We need to play according to the strengths of our players. When there is that kind of understanding, we will have team work. Baxter said his boys will play for each other. Their secret was revealed even before the match. MODIFIED Kelechi did not have a clear sight at goal. No thanks to the organized SA team. Neither was he well set up by his teammates. somehow: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:29pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Joebie: Yes the team did wrong and HE as a sole person did wrong too! Hope you read what he said with his own mouth? whether they fed you balls or not, a serious minded striker will surely go hustle for his ball if truly he wants to leave a mark. (ditto Suarez, Aguero, G. Jesus e.t.c) Not having a clear sight on goal is another negative addition to his bad game on saturday. All in all, maybe Ideye (calling on him cos i don't think we have any other big striker that can act both as a CF and SS currently) can help him perform better against Cameroon if the coach is to go with Iheanacho in the starting 11. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:35pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
We want to lambaste our players. Can we pause a bit and give credits to the South African team. Even if we had all the players you are clamoring for on that day we would still have had it rough. I repeat know the strengths of your players and play to each other's strengths as a team. Just because Iheanacho is not that kind of forward does not reduce his quality. I think our argument now should center more on who can be the perfect partners up front? Iheanacho remains a starting material. We just need to get this issue right. somehow: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:51pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Joebie:SA played well because we played poorly, no more, no less, the better side always win most of the time. we hailed them when they were winning and sang their song, so why shouldnt they be rebuked when they do wrong? He's a good player nonetheless, i didn't say otherwise. infact i reminded the house how efficient he was playing as a SS during his youth career. what's good is good and whats bad is bad. no asslicking here. He's a starting 11 because we don't have a better replacement (tested) for him so far, if we were spoilt with options (strikers) like before, he won't even be in there which you know. the job is now in the hands of the coaching crew to find solution to our attacking prowess. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:58pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Joebie: What I meant was THQ Iheanacho can be our own Gyan in the sense that he can be our main goal poacher ,same way Gyan is to Ghana. Am not really comparing him to Gyan. He can be a better player than Gyan. Am just saying Nigeria needs a reliable goal poacher.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:11pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
That's our arrogance. Truth is you have to study your opponents as well. SA did just that. They didn't let us play our game. No wonder our ex-SE players can't really explain what happened. Go pages back and you will see what I said about the South Africans style, but we were all busy focusing on the individual strengths of the players and who should start. . somehow: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:26pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
No matter how well SA studies or watch the clips of teams like Germany, Brazil, Argentina et.c, they might not be able to best any of these countries, why? Tell me Joebie: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:55pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
komekn: Habaaaaaaa. Benteke will thrive in a long ball that is way ahead of the line and land straight in the hands of the keeper. This happened repeatedly and you say Benteke will thrive. I tire. Find a way to watch the game again to know how terrible these final balls were. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:57pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
goldfish80: That is the young man wishing at least he had a shot on target. The question you should ask yourself is that, did Iheanacho get one good service despite being positioned well to have a shot on target. Can you please answer the above and save us this drag. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:01pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
goldfish80: The Journalist that asked that question needs to go and learn how to read the game because he is atrocious. Changing Iheanacho was a wrong option and a wrong call by Rohr and that Journalist is asking why Rohr did not make a wrong call earlier. Na wa. The problem we had in the first have was poor final balls. Rohr should have fixed it earlier by getting someone with the ability to deliver better balls. Not removing a striker. Rohr pulled out Iheanacho and Kayode was ineffective too. Is that not enough to tell you that the Call was wrong? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:05pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
goldfish80: That is why you need to learn how to read games before blabbing. The scenario on ground determines the action of the striker. If a striker is closely marked and the midfield is having trouble getting the ball to the striker. Note, the midfield can deliver quality balls but the striker is shielded, the striker needs to drop deep or go wide when the wing back overlaps to be free to receive the ball to attack or build up play. In this case, Iheanacho was not closely marked. He had room to receive the ball and cause damage. Repeatedly he made the right runs but the final ball to him was bad. With a quality midfielder supplying good balls, we would have been two or three goals up in the first half. So dropping deep is not an option. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:08pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
somehow: Is it not loogan that took his time to educate you that modern day forwards have the ability to play multiple roles? So saying Iheanacho can not play nine is ridiculous. Yet you go to post the above to show you have not understood what he is saying. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:22pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
somehow: You will hustle ball when your team is in control, building up well and sending passes to the attack. We can run around the Bush but the fact remains. With Mikel in the side, Iheanacho would have gotten loads of clean passes to cause havoc. We need to sort this out. With better delivery we would have celebrated another win. 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:28pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Why hustle for ball when your team is in control? Guy I no get time for this funny comment jare. You're right and the rest are wrong including the player himself. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:30pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Every knowledgeable football fan knows who's right here. Can't overflog this. Do you now agree he's not a certified 9 or you still think all forwards can play 9? I no fit continue with u jare bro no vex. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:35pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
In your words "might". So the question is already dead. somehow: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:47pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Was trying to be modest hence the "might", we all know it won't happen in any competive match. Joebie: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:47pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Okay who played the certified 9 when we were winning? And what did the person do? I agree that all modern forwards can play 9, although they may not be your ideal 9. But you are not a coach. Modified. In fact you are just somehow lol somehow: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:48pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
komekn: If u can call Isaac Success a waste man then u have no business endorsing Dominic over Nacho. Ur comment just shows the obvious bias u have against home grown players or are u telling me a guy who couldn't take the Netherlands by storm is better than someone that took the EPL by storm? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:48pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Who's a certified 9? Joebie: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:57pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
That's ur term so answer. somehow: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:11pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
That's untrue. It can even happen in a World Cup Modified. They beat France in 2010 World Cup. And they have not been sleeping since then. Their league is highly commercial and their players don't go to Europe like ours. We dismiss other countries while they are quickly catching up with us. Now they are better. What they did in Uyo last week they almost did before in Uyo. Don't you see the progression? somehow: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:22pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
somehow: Are you the one sharing number 9 Certificate? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:24pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
somehow: Say you do not know. Not you do not have time. A player drops deep to help the team build up play. We were in control of the first half but out final balls failed us. Nacho did not need to drop deep. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by pyrex23(m): 11:26pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
mehn this SA really caused some argument on this thread....fed up.also y call success a waste? I see him with the likes of nacho and iwobi making it this coming season. doubt Henry will make it in the premier league |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:54pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: When? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:15am On Jun 13, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: That's a nonsensical proposition that you relate to me. For the avoidance of doubt I have not too date said Dominic over KC. What I said is for now KC is ahead. However, they are different types of players KC being a SS with outstanding finishing on the other hand Solanke is a true no.9 but not proven to have the same level of finishing. The final judgement will be when both of them play a full season in thier respective clubs. Tell me bearing in mind what Isaac Success has done all season with his £12 million price tag at Watford. What accolade would you give him most promising forward player that is still promising succes. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:16am On Jun 13, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: That's a nonsensical proposition that you relate to me. For the avoidance of doubt I have not too date said Dominic over KC. What I said is for now KC is ahead. However, they are different types of players KC being a SS with outstanding finishing on the other hand Solanke is a true no.9 but not proven to have the same level of finishing. The final judgement will be when both of them play a full season in thier respective clubs. Tell me bearing in mind what Isaac Success has done all season with his £12 million price tag at Watford. What accolade would you give him most promising forward player that is still promising succes. Or most valuable player. Bearing in mind his Manager, Walter said he is not fit and Isaac said he is fit and able to play 90 minutes. So is he taking up space or is he contributing to his team positively commensurate with his huge price tag. |
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