komekn:


I would like to add to that we got off lightly it was no fluke in reality we should have 5 goals against us.

This was a comprehensive defeat.

It's a blessing in disguise stop the unnecessary pride and politics we absolutely need Enyeama.

I will ask this question is any of our current CB's better than Nedum and Dominic Iorfa

komekn:


Explain to me why that information is irrelevant according to you.

For instance the coaches in Everton and Liverpool have different emphasis and football strategy including structure. This is quite obvious when you watch them in training add to that when you ask the coaches what they are trying to achieve.

If I take player to a club without telling him what the philosophy, emphasis and strategy is, I would not be helping at all.

It's from that perspective of let's say price somewhat insider knowledge. It's in this regard I would have a better insight than someone who just watched the game on TV.

I await your answer without prejudice.

Joebie:
Loyal fans remember the good times. Iheanacho remains our leading goalscorer under Rohr. Let's cut him a slack. But I maintain that game was lost in the midfield. Akpeyi probably should have stopped the first goal with better reflexes. Let's throw our weight behind the team. One thing I've learned in life is to assume responsibility even when I am not wrong. It is professional for Iheanacho to blame himself. It's also professional for Mikel to say the team can do well with or without him. That's a sign of maturity and humility.

komekn:


Because KC is not a true No.9 I would suggest he is useless in the air. This meant that the crosses that Moses Simon put in became wayward. They weren't great crosses but crosses a Benteke would thrive on. Unfortunately he is not Nigerian.

Some of the balls forward were reflection of players use to playing with a true No.9 who can hold up play and bring in either attacking midfield players or supporting forward players.

Furthermore it meant that the SA center backs didnt feel pressure to drop back.

I think we need a Drogba, Lukaku, Anichebe type player so when the going gets tough that option us created. An option we may desperately need when we face Cameroon. At least on the bench to change things if the need arises to change the structure and adapt play to circumstances.

We also had players who lacked versatility and or where of form. We definitely could do with Sone Aluko.

We need to really look at our options in defence. I remember Danny Shittu how he came in and brought real calmness to our defence years ago.

somehow:


Not disputing his goals, rather disputing the asslicking that he did no wrong on Saturday.

clear difference!

Joebie:
The team did wrong. We didn't play as a team. Iheanacho is a quality forward. But he is not in the mold of Aghahowa for example who scores most of his goals by individual effort. Emenike is another example of that kind of striker who can single highhandedly create and score. Kelechi on his part needs to have a clear sight at goal or be set up by a team mate. We need to play according to the strengths of our players. When there is that kind of understanding, we will have team work. Baxter said his boys will play for each other. Their secret was revealed even before the match.

MODIFIED
Kelechi did not have a clear sight at goal. No thanks to the organized SA team. Neither was he well set up by his teammates.

somehow:


Yes the team did wrong and HE as a sole person did wrong too!

Hope you read what he said with his own mouth? whether they fed you balls or not, a serious minded striker will surely go hustle for his ball if truly he wants to leave a mark. (ditto Suarez, Aguero, G. Jesus e.t.c) Not having a clear sight on goal is another negative addition to his bad game on saturday.

All in all, maybe Ideye (calling on him cos i don't think we have any other big striker that can act both as a CF and SS currently) can help him perform better against Cameroon if the coach is to go with Iheanacho in the starting 11.

Joebie:
We want to lambaste our players. Can we pause a bit and give credits to the South African team. Even if we had all the players you are clamoring for on that day we would still have had it rough.

I repeat know the strengths of your players and play to each other's strengths as a team. Just because Iheanacho is not that kind of forward does not reduce his quality.

I think our argument now should center more on who can be the perfect partners up front? Iheanacho remains a starting material. We just need to get this issue right.

Joebie:
Read your post again. You wrote, "our own Asamoah Gyan", which is why I assumed you were Ghanaian.

somehow:

SA played well because we played poorly, no more, no less, the better side always win most of the time. we hailed them when they were winning and sang their song, so why shouldnt they be rebuked when they do wrong? He's a good player nonetheless, i didn't say otherwise. infact i reminded the house how efficient he was playing as a SS during his youth career. what's good is good and whats bad is bad. no asslicking here.

He's a starting 11 because we don't have a better replacement (tested) for him so far, if we were spoilt with options (strikers) like before, he won't even be in there which you know. the job is now in the hands of the coaching crew to find solution to our attacking prowess.

Joebie:
That's our arrogance. Truth is you have to study your opponents as well. SA did just that. They didn't let us play our game. No wonder our ex-SE players can't really explain what happened.

Go pages back and you will see what I said about the South Africans style, but we were all busy focusing on the individual strengths of the players and who should start.

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komekn:


Because KC is not a true No.9 I would suggest he is useless in the air. This meant that the crosses that Moses Simon put in became wayward. They weren't great crosses but crosses a Benteke would thrive on. Unfortunately he is not Nigerian.

Some of the balls forward were reflection of players use to playing with a true No.9 who can hold up play and bring in either attacking midfield players or supporting forward players.

Furthermore it meant that the SA center backs didnt feel pressure to drop back.

I think we need a Drogba, Lukaku, Anichebe type player so when the going gets tough that option us created. An option we may desperately need when we face Cameroon. At least on the bench to change things if the need arises to change the structure and adapt play to circumstances.

We also had players who lacked versatility and or where of form. We definitely could do with Sone Aluko.

We need to really look at our options in defence. I remember Danny Shittu how he came in and brought real calmness to our defence years ago.

goldfish80:


Manchester City forward Kelechi Iheanacho has sent his apologies to the coach of the senior national team of Nigeria Gernot Rohr for his poor conduct after he was substituted in Nigeria’s 0-2 loss to South Africa.
Iheanacho was yanked off for Olarewaju Kayode as Nigeria chased an equaliser. The forward strolled off the pitch slowly despite the Eagles trailing, he even had to be hurried off the pitch by a South African player.
He grudgingly shook the hand of Rohr before heading to the bench, where he angrily kicked at a water bottle while ranting. 20 year old Iheanacho says he regrets his actions and linked it to the frustration of playing poorly.
“I wish to apologise too for the way I reacted when I was substituted. I did it for myself because as a striker I should have at least got at least shot on target.
“Unfortunately, I couldn’t do that. That’s why I was angry with myself. I wish to apologise to the manager, the coach and the Nigeria Football Federation for my action. That’s not me.
“For our next game, I believe we will come back stronger and better against Cameroon. I will improve my performance.”

cc:owngoalnigeria

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The young man even acknowledged that he had a stinker. Yet you're making excuses for him. If you can do away with sentiments and emotions,you will be a better analyst.

goldfish80:


Nigeria manager Gernot Rohr was bombarded with questions by local media after the Super Eagles' loss to South Africa on Saturday.
The Nigerian Federation spokesman, Ademola Olajire, came to the rescue of the German tactician when he was quizzed about some of his naive tactical decisions like starting Awaziem instead of the more experienced Chelsea defender Kenneth Omeruo and leaving an off-form Iheanacho on the pitch for that long.
''Nobody is happy with the manner of the defeat because it could have been avoided, we wanted to know why he made some of those decisions, '' a top source at the post match press conference told
allnigeriasoccer.com .
''Rohr was asked why he started Awaziem ahead of Omeruo and why he didn't substitute Iheanacho earlier when he noticed he was ineffective but the Nigerian Federation's Olajire kept shutting me down, he told Rohr not to respond.''
After match day one in the 2019 Africa Cup of Nations qualification, Nigeria are only third in Group E because Seychelles suffered a heavy 5-1 loss away to Libya on Friday.

cc:allnigeriansoccer.com
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You can keep burying your head in sand when almost everyone who watched the game attest Kelechi had a stinker.
Funny enough, some journalists were of the opinion he was left too long on the pitch.

goldfish80:

A striker dropping deep is simply a way to get off his markers. Not necessarily because the team is having problems with their build up play.

By the way, I have read you constantly yell that Kelechi should improve on his game by dropping deep and aid the build up play for Man city. You have always been of the opinion that he should improve on this.
A fee weeks down the line, you have somersaulted. You no longer see that Kelechi should improve that aspect of his game. The manner you swing up and down like a yoyo, distorting facts to suit your narrative is just out of this world.

Anyway,irrespective of whatever you think of Kelechi's game, Rohr who is the manager took a decision and subbed him off. For any coach who is a goal down in the second half, at home to remove his only striker should be a damming verdict that the said striker was having a stinker.

I hope Rohr actually gave people like Ideye, Adi and Nwakaeme opportunities to show what they can do. They could be his solution to the Lone striker role. If not, he should adopt a system that will suit Kelechi's skill set, failure to do this = dropped points against Cameroun. As simple as that.

somehow:


Just as he used Fabrigas as a 9, i guess that makes Fabrigas a 9?

He even used Pedro as a 9, Pedro must be a 9 too

Or maybe Sanchez is a 9 too afterall he was used as one before by Arsene Wenger and also Pep.

Before club football and senior national team games, what was his position and what position made him so popular and allowed him score and have ALOT of ASSIST?

please think wide my brother. shallow box thinking isn't healthy.

somehow:


Yes the team did wrong and HE as a sole person did wrong too!

Hope you read what he said with his own mouth? whether they fed you balls or not, a serious minded striker will surely go hustle for his ball if truly he wants to leave a mark. (ditto Suarez, Aguero, G. Jesus e.t.c) Not having a clear sight on goal is another negative addition to his bad game on saturday.

All in all, maybe Ideye (calling on him cos i don't think we have any other big striker that can act both as a CF and SS currently) can help him perform better against Cameroon if the coach is to go with Iheanacho in the starting 11.

TheGoodJoe:


You will hustle ball when your team is in control, building up well and sending passes to the attack.

We can run around the Bush but the fact remains. With Mikel in the side, Iheanacho would have gotten loads of clean passes to cause havoc. We need to sort this out. With better delivery we would have celebrated another win.

TheGoodJoe:


Is it not loogan that took his time to educate you that modern day forwards have the ability to play multiple roles? So saying Iheanacho can not play nine is ridiculous. Yet you go to post the above to show you have not understood what he is saying.

somehow:
No matter how well SA studies or watch the clips of teams like Germany, Brazil, Argentina et.c, they might not be able to best any of these countries, why? Tell me

Joebie:
In your words "might". So the question is already dead.

somehow:


Just as he used Fabrigas as a 9, i guess that makes Fabrigas a 9?

He even used Pedro as a 9, Pedro must be a 9 too

Or maybe Sanchez is a 9 too afterall he was used as one before by Arsene Wenger and also Pep.

Before club football and senior national team games, what was his position and what position made him so popular and allowed him score and have ALOT of ASSIST?

please think wide my brother. shallow box thinking isn't healthy.

komekn:


Being objective I can not say KC is completely better than Solanke I will concede he is currently ahead of him. But they both have different attributes Solanke being the more true No.9 and KC a more SS but with very good and better finishing for now.

KC will have his true test when the proposed move to West ham goes through. When he starts to play regular week in week out football as a striker. The same goes for Solanke at Liverpool.

Joebie:
Okay who played the certified 9 when we were winning? And what did the person do? I agree that all modern forwards can play 9, although they may not be your ideal 9. But you are not a coach.

somehow:
Who's a certified 9?

somehow:
Was trying to be modest hence the "might", we all know it won't happen in any competive match.

somehow:
Every knowledgeable football fan knows who's right here. Can't overflog this. Do you now agree he's not a certified 9 or you still think all forwards can play 9? I no fit continue with u jare bro no vex.

somehow:
Why hustle for ball when your team is in control? Guy I no get time for this funny comment jare. You're right and the rest are wrong including the player himself.

TheGoodJoe:


That is the young man wishing at least he had a shot on target. The question you should ask yourself is that, did Iheanacho get one good service despite being positioned well to have a shot on target.

Can you please answer the above and save us this drag.

BascoVanVeli:


If u can call Isaac Success a waste man then u have no business endorsing Dominic over Nacho. Ur comment just shows the obvious bias u have against home grown players or are u telling me a guy who couldn't take the Netherlands by storm is better than someone that took the EPL by storm?

BascoVanVeli:


If u can call Isaac Success a waste man then u have no business endorsing Dominic over Nacho. Ur comment just shows the obvious bias u have against home grown players or are u telling me a guy who couldn't take the Netherlands by storm is better than someone that took the EPL by storm?