Hati13:

After the fall of Zagwe in 1270, state capital disappeared and urbanization started to fall. This was because Abyssinia emperors together with their camps continuously moved from one region to another to check rebellion and to see the administration.

In the 17th century, for the first time after the fall of Axum and Zagwe, Abyssinia emperor Faselades founded a Gondar and it became permanent captain until Addis Ababa was found in 1896 GC.

Worse, most of Ancient and medieval towns, great architectural achievements and historical books were destroyed when Ahmad Gragn of Adal conquered most of Abyssinia for 12 years. In 1543, with the help of Portuguese we defeated them and liberated Abyssinia. Adals were Somalians, Hararis and Afars.

There are many historical towns in Ethiopia, but since we are mainly dependent on Agriculture, majority of Ethiopians are farmers and live in rural areas.

Kk

Really, i do admire the command of history you Ethiopians have about your people.

***** It seems like history is a vital part of your student curriculum from primary levels?

We Nigerians also have a fairly rich history of ancient kingdoms n empires, buh it's such a shame that history is not taught as a compulsory subject in our schools and most Nigerians do not even have a clue of the history of the ancient kingdoms n empires they originated.

>>>>Most Nigerians you see here like us who know some bit of history were self educated.

Nabhani:


Its a hybrid but I would say its more Bantu than Middle Eastern. Aside from how we dress and some of our food, we are different from Arabs.

Take the Omani Arabs that went back to Oman after the Zanzibar revolution in 1964, their own people shunned them for being more African than Arab. Our mode of dress may be similar but once you get deep into our culture, you can see clear differences.

Kk.

****Please can you explain the african parts of your cultures? Cos the only thing i learnt about your people is your Taraab music which looks very much non-african.

I have heard about the Zanzibar revolution of how the arabs were overthrown n chased away. I'd like to know more please.
Were the overthrown arabs also swahili speaking?
Were arabs also attacked on the mainland TZ?
Are there still arabs left in TZ or Zanzibar?

@Ednited n Hati13

Here are more cool Ethiopian musics i came across. Are these popular musics/artistes?

Can you both do the dancing n shaking of shoulders? cos this seems like the most common Amhara dance steps. Or not?

*** How popular are Oromo, Tigray n Somali musics/artistes in Adis Ababa? Do you guys listen to them?

Nowenuse:


Wow, its so nice to have a Tanzanian here. I have been waiting for this all along. Habari

Great explanation above.

So, many things i'd like to know about TZ. But first of all, i'd like to know what part of the swahili clan you belong to, the swahilized african, swahilized arab or native swahili?

You really are d#mb. What the hell is swahilized? You are either Swahili or aren't. For example I am Kamba but fluent in Swahili. Am I a "swahilized" Kamba? You need to know when to quit.

genieluv:



Seriously, if the definition of dark skin by Kenyans is Lupitia Nyongo, then i finally see where the whole misunderstanding and false accusation is coming from.

*** People with Lupita's skintone in Nigeria are classified as 'extremely dark skinned' or 'very black' n not just dark-skinned.

In Kenya, we are raised not to classify people by colour or race. Such issues are taboo in East Africa you Nigerians should style up.

shervydman:


that's exactly where the problem lies................ here in Nigeria; she's dark skinned. infact, that's how most Nigerians look.

pls, lets forget skin color palaver.

I know that very well, you own the bleaching world record at 77% bleached skin. So yes, That's not light at all in Nigeria!!!!

genieluv
I know, she's part of the 33%. Hhhhhh

TayserMahiri:


WTF? How? All these technological advancements cannot be made up stories

Technological advancements aside. Which, by the way are not anything new on the face of the earth, modern science has covered up and degraded a lot of ancient useful knowledge and ideals in favour of theories justifying and laying the basis of the dominance of the West and in specific, a few elites.

mtis:

hati13 science today is another religion and just like others it has its own false prophets

Exactly!!

Science today is just a means of justifying an end, which is usually political.

Hati13:

Science isn't a religion. It's a system of observing, experimenting, hypothesizing and concluding. Science classify something that could be right or wrong as theory. Others are classify as facts since they are supported by concrete evidences. So I don't see any reasons not to believe in REASON. Join us sister?

Its the same science that is being used by the West to claim superiority and an ancient right of dorminance.

Don't let me start of the food politics and the fact that five multinational have been genetically modifying most crops at the pretence of improving just to claim right of ownership distribution, and general control. I hear in US, these multi billion companies are suing poor farmers for license fees by claiming that their pollen has fertilized and improved neighbouring farms.

Corrupted science!!!

BedLam:
Who wanna see pictures from Ghana ?

Post them

Muafrika2:

Technological advancements aside. Which, by the way are not anything new on the face of the earth, modern science has covered up and degraded a lot of ancient useful knowledge and ideals in favour of theories justifying and laying the basis of the dominance of the West and in specific, a few elites.

It would be better if you laid up examples of how the west does not in fact dominate scientifically. Whether the guys benefitted from being leeches off other people's inventions does not justify why the rest of the world and Africa in particular has underwhelmed for the past few centuries.

Muafrika2:

I know that very well, you own the bleaching world record at 77% bleached skin. So yes, That's not light at all in Nigeria!!!!

genieluv
I know, she's part of the 33%. Hhhhhh

whatever grease ur d!ck, man.................. its ur problem.

Muafrika2:

Its the same science that is being used by the West to claim superiority and an ancient right of dorminance.

Don't let me start of the food politics and the fact that five multinational have been genetically modifying most crops at the pretence of improving just to claim right of ownership distribution, and general control. I hear in US, these multi billion companies are suing poor farmers for license fees by claiming that their pollen has fertilized and improved neighbouring farms.

Corrupted science!!!

Science just happens to give those who master it power over others by for example having the most lethal weapons. Those who master science will dominate! It has been the same for millenia, only that back then inventions were not considered to be science par se. But it was still science. I dont really know how/why you want to separate innovation from science. The food politics issue is a legal and political issue with the likes of Monsanto. The science is not corrupted, the politics is. Its controversial but you cannot allow your invention to be used and you never get to recover the resources you used to come up with it while everyone else was cooling their heels. I must however reiterate that I am not for these greedy companies. Even then, Science is not to blame, its just doing what it is supposed to do, which is to study, discover and invent. Greed and The politics are the elephants in the room.

TayserMahiri:


It would be better if you laid up examples of how the west does not in fact dominate scientifically. Whether the guys benefitted from being leeches of other people's inventions does not justify why the rest of the world and Africa in particular has underwhelmed for the past few centuries.

That's because your view of science is only what you find in textbooks as propagated by the West.

Let's take the invention of penicillin by some guy just the other day.

Weren't Africans conducting serious operations using traditional medicine? My grandmother was a midwife. People who modern hospital could only deliver by CS delivered normally with her. Without even the tear. 99% of women delivering in hospitals nowadays have to be cut at the vaginal opening and the 1% happens mostly due to neglect. That's science.

shervydman
I was under the impression you are one rare Nigerian with a higher reasoning capacity than your sisters here. I guess I was wrong

Muafrika2:

That's because your view of science is only what you find in textbooks as propagated by the West.

Let's take the invention of penicillin by some guy just the other day.

Weren't Africans conducting serious operations using traditional medicine? My grandmother was a midwife. People who modern hospital could only deliver by CS delivered normally with her. Without even the tear. 99% of women delivering in hospitals nowadays have to be cut at the vaginal opening and the 1% happens mostly due to neglect. That's science.

Not really my view as propagated by the west. Your example would have been better had you captured the whole picture. They used to do the midwifery but were the deaths during childbirth fewer than in the contemporary world? Its definitely safer now. The issue with these days is because women have been opting the easy way out, to deliver via CS simply to avoud the pain. Unfortunately thats not how humans were made. And is it really 99 %? Its high but not that high.

CocoMilian:

Lol I thought my presence annoyed u people

no, it doesn't.......sincerely speaking, I don't think anybody's presence annoy people here.
but, the bone of contention is when people are deviating from important issues to nonsensical ones.

Muafrika2:
shervydman
I was under the impression you are one rare Nigerian with a higher reasoning capacity than your sisters here. I guess I was wrong

depending on ur own level of reasoning too........... u may be right n u may be equally wrong. I don't really give a fuq.

TayserMahiri:


Science just happens to give those who master it power over others by for example having the most lethal weapons. Those who master science will dominate! It has been the same for millenia, only that back then inventions were not considered to be science par se. But it was still science. I dont really know how/why you want to separate innovation from science. The food politics issue is a legal and political issue with the likes of Monsanto. The science is not corrupted, the politics is. Its controversial but you cannot allow your invention to be used and you never get to recover the resources you used to come up with it while everyone else was cooling their heels. I must however point out that I am not for these greedy companies. Even then, Science is not to blame, its just doing what it is supposed to do, which is to study, discover and invent. Greed and The politics are the elephants in the room.

Am not separating invention, am just setting it aside as a portion of science that can be verified or not depending on its nature. Invention is wide and nowadays include isolating species of diseases like Ebola which end up getting patents just before breaking out.

True, politics is driving science. Which interferes with its integrity.

Part of science is just made up.

Evolution of man

Carbon dating - I've never seen more brazen guess work in the name of science

A huge portion of astronomy The space race should be blamed for this,

Anthropology !! A significant potion of it. You can't insist people came from Y when they are telling you that actually, they came from x

TayserMahiri:


Not really my view as propagated by the west. Your example would have been better had you captured the whole picture. They used to do the midwifery but were the deaths during childbirth fewer than in the contemporary world? Its definitely safer now. The issue with these days is because women have been opting the easy way out, to deliver via CS simply to avoud the pain. Unfortunately thats not how humans were made. And is it really 99 %? Its high but not that high.

99% is not about CS. Its the women delivering normally who still get cut, to give way for their delivery. Cut and sawn in stitches immediately. There is not much difference between CS and normal delivery nowadays. All end up cut.

Medically, Apart from immunizations, I see little improvement on preexisting science.

shervydman:

depending on ur own level of reasoning too........... u may be right n u may be equally wrong. I don't really give a fuq.

Go sleep this jitu

Muafrika2:

Am not separating invention, am just setting it aside as a portion of science that can be verified or not depending on its nature. Invention is wide and nowadays include isolating species of diseases like Ebola which end up getting patents just before breaking out.

True, politics is driving science. Which interferes with its integrity.

Part of science is just made up.

Evolution of man

Carbon dating - I've never seen more brazen guess work in the name of science

A huge portion of astronomy The space race should be blamed for this,

Anthropology !! A significant potion of it. You can't insist people came from Y when they are telling you that actually, they came from x

Do you mean evolution of man alone is made up or all evolution? Evolution has too much evidence, its virtually a fact. In fact you would probably get a serious honor for disproving it. Do you also think that other theories in science are made up? Evolution does not sit comfortably with most people, especially due to ego but its a fact of life, happening as we chat here. Carbon dating, I dont know if you know the serious chemistry that gave rise to carbon dating. Unless you have a more accurate way. Astronomy? What exactly is made up about it? Anthropology is the only one I would agree with you. But only if you have a better one. You see, science provides the best ways to explain and solve problems. If you dont have a better way, you cannot then mock the best available one.

Muafrika2:


99% is not about CS. Its the women delivering normally who still get cut, to give way for their delivery. Cut and sawn in stitches immediately. There is not much difference between CS and normal delivery nowadays. All end up cut.

Medically, Apart from immunizations, I see little improvement on preexisting science.

OH I misread that part. The cut makes sense. If I may ask, would you then advise science to halt at its present stage and exterminate all scientific research as you see no improvements?

TayserMahiri:


Do you mean evolution of man alone is made up or all evolution? Evolution has too much evidence, its virtually a fact. In fact you would probably get a serious honor for disproving it. Do you also think that other theories in science are made up? Evolution does not sit comfortably with most people, especially due to ego but its a fact of life, happening as we chat here. Carbon dating, I dont know if you know the serious chemistry that gave rise to carbon dating. Unless you have a more accurate way. Astronomy? What exactly is made up about it? Anthropology is the only one I would agree with you. But only if you have a better one. You see, science provides the best ways to explain and solve problems. If you dont have a better way, you cannot then mock the best available one.

Of man. Animals definitely evolved.

The theory has a lot of manufactured evidence - of skeletal remains - as far as man is concerned. These have been exposed severally. Like this one, to mention a few;

Almost forty years later, in 1953, Piltdown Man was exposed as a forgery, mainly through the work of Dr Kenneth Oakley. He showed that the skull was from a modern human and that the jawbone and teeth were from an orangutan. The teeth had been filed down to make them look human. The bones and teeth had been chemically treated (and sometimes even painted) to give them the appearance of being ancient.

But there is just too much at stake to let it go.

My problem with the way modern science arrives at its conclusion is first, by disregard of 1.Ancient science and 2. non western education based school of thought, and the notion peer review which are in fact derived from the same western education superiority mindset.

TayserMahiri:


OH I misread that part. The cut makes sense. If I may ask, would you then advise science to halt at its present stage and exterminate all scientific research as you see no improvements?

Some science is useful. Some, like hospitals.

Scientific "improments" on foods and subsequent patenting of seeds should definitely end.

I get shivers just wondering what big pharmaceutical companies are up to in their labs. These are people who make money treating diseases, so you think they would be happy eliminating them? BTW, a closely guarded secret is that pharmaceuticals, Oil companies, and food multinationals are usually subsidiaries of each other.

TayserMahiri:


Lemmi answer for our dear brodas, when you have money, you can afford lotion that can kill melanin genes

Exactly, you heard how someone here was so specific .. "... photos of middle class Nigerians in comfortable settings...(are light skinned)"

Nowenuse:


Ok genie, i would stop here.

But i really wonder how hard it is for these block headed Kenyans to know that t his is exactly the way most Urban middle-class Nigerians look like !

We don't disagree with this. They are the 77%. Nairagenetics at play

Jay254:
Majority of Nigerians are Dark.. 99% of Nigerians in Nairobi are darker than ordinary Kenyan... some pple need to get out of there villages.

True......very true.

Nowenuse:


Lousy human, get some enlightenment!

When you take a better camera closer, this is what you find. Can you see these poor rural northern Nigerians? This is as dark as it gets!

You've been repeating these photos for months now. Don't you have any other photos? Does that mean what mtis is posting are not Nigerians? Anyway, the girls you're posting - other than being Fulani - a minority community in Nigeria, are not as impressive as you're trying to make them.

Muafrika2:

Of man. Animals definitely evolved.

The theory has a lot of manufactured evidence - of skeletal remains - as far as man is concerned. These have been exposed severally. Like this one, to mention a few;

But there is just too much at stake to let it go.

My problem with the way modern science arrives at its conclusion is first, by disregard of 1.Ancient science and 2. non western education based school of thought, and the notion peer review which are in fact derived from the same western education superiority mindset.

Was expecting much better from you. So you think all animals evolved except man? What sort of logic. Man is an animal, albeit a more intelligent one. What you're doing is like a chimpanzee saying all other animals evolved, except chimpanzees
There has been forgeries in the past in the field of evolution, mostly driven by greed. But they were exposed, by scientists! So, its not like science just lets go of anything suspect. I cannot see how science disregards ancient science. If it is in books then people read and apply the knowledge. If it isn't, then where can they find it? What is the nonwestern school of thought you are saying? Culture? philosophy? If research is about something like genes or neutrinos, are scientists expected to consult village elders? And you cannot really tell me you have a issue with peer review. It may not be perfect but what would possibly be better than reviewing work for any errors? I think you have an issue with western superiority, dont make the mistake of misleading your brethren into believing science is wrong. That is one sure way to remain backward, and a favorite school of thought for lost sheep like BH.

Muafrika2:

Some science is useful. Some, like hospitals.

Scientific "improments" on foods and subsequent patenting of seeds should definitely end.

I get shivers just wondering what big pharmaceutical companies are up to in their labs. These are people who make money treating diseases, so you think they would be happy eliminating them? BTW, a closely guarded secret is that pharmaceuticals, Oil companies, and food multinationals are usually subsidiaries of each other.

Definitely, not all science is useful. BUT, the majority of science is useful, not SOME

Muafrika2:

Exactly, you heard how someone here was so specific .. "... photos of middle class Nigerians in comfortable settings...(are light skinned)"

Manenos. I've never seen that level of stupidity in my life.