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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by dealslip(f): 10:22am On Jun 21, 2017
DieBuhari:

Why not use the power you used in "defeating " them to take back Ilorin from them.
Aren't you aware that the present Emir is a Yoruba man. Emirates occupying a place meant for traditional king is the issue here.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by DieBuhari: 10:28am On Jun 21, 2017
dealslip:

Aren't you aware that the present Emir is a Yoruba man. Emirates occupying a place meant for traditional king is the issue here.
Gambari calls himself Fulani
Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by dealslip(f): 10:29am On Jun 21, 2017
DieBuhari:
Gambari calls himself Fulani
He is Yoruba

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by DieBuhari: 10:32am On Jun 21, 2017
dealslip:

He is Yoruba
Are you forcing him to be?
Ibrahim Zulu Gambari is Fulani, just like the Sarakis.
The day he will come out and claim Yoruba will be the end of his reign on that throne.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Newmanluckyman(m): 10:33am On Jun 21, 2017
...With due respect to the Cardinal. However, he intentionally avoided the Alimi-Ilorin -Kwara Saga. To me that's the height of cowardice.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by zombieHUNTER: 10:39am On Jun 21, 2017
The
Newmanluckyman:
...With due respect to the Cardinal. However, he intentionally avoided the Alimi-Ilorin -Kwara Saga. To me that's the height of cowardice.
The cardinal spoke well
But you use references which buttress your point... Alimi ilorin saga doesn't in this scenario
Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by dealslip(f): 10:44am On Jun 21, 2017
DieBuhari:

Are you forcing him to be?
Ibrahim Zulu Gambari is Fulani, just like the Sarakis.
The day he will come out and claim Yoruba will be the end of his reign on that throne.
So Olusola, Gbemisola and Olubukola are Fulani names bet why? Brother bet why?

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by DieBuhari: 10:48am On Jun 21, 2017
dealslip:

So Olusola, Gbemisola and Olubukola are Fulani names bet why? Brother bet why?
The fact that I have an English name doesn't make me English. The fact that they've Yoruba names doesn't make them Yoruba.
That's exactly what Pa Saraki said.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by ibkayee(f): 10:51am On Jun 21, 2017
Proudly Yoruba

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by victorDanladi: 10:52am On Jun 21, 2017
dealslip:

The truth is that the Fulani jihadists having succeeded in taking Ilorin through treachery decided to test their treachery beyond Ilorin but they were bravely pushed back, mind you there was nothing called Kwara state in those days, having had their way in Ilorin doesn't mean all other cities and towns around Ilorin and under present day Kwara state is under the control of the Emir. You really need to see the hostility and animosity towards Fulanis in Kwara. Have you ever heard of Herdsmen misbehave in Kwara before. They park well in Kwara.

The emir self has been yorubanized.I doubt it if he can speak fulani self.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by AshiwajuFoward: 10:54am On Jun 21, 2017
Newmanluckyman:
...With due respect to the Cardinal. However, he intentionally avoided the Alimi-Ilorin -Kwara Saga. To me that's the height of cowardice.

Some of you igbos are so ignorant that it ain't even funny. Ilorin was never conquered in any battle. The city's inhabitants willingly accepted the emirate system in line with their strong Islamic affiliation. The city was never conquered nor subdued in any battle as you and your Ilk would like to paint and believe. Afonja had already lost the confidence of his ilorin Yoruba muslim brethren by the time the fallout between he and Alimi occurred.

In 1895, the Yoruba rose against the then emir, burnt his palace and killed him. But the revolt did not result in enthronement of a Yoruba king -- it certainly would have if those Yorubas that perpetrated this act were under bondage of emirate oppression and domination, as you like to paint it.

In 1913, when Lord Lugard administered the northern and southern Nigeria, Yorubas again spearheaded a riot over tax to bring the rulership of the then emir to ridicule.

In 1936, the Yorubas of ilorin yet again ousted Emir Abdulkadir who was banished to Kaduna but was later reinstated by the colonial administration.

For all intents and purposes, the emirate is a mere traditional institution that exists only because ilorin Yorubas (not even the entire Kwara folks sef) still chose for it to remain, as the above history shows. You people just talk crap about what you know little to nothing about.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Afam4eva(m): 10:56am On Jun 21, 2017
I think anyone group can cite examples as to why they're not this or that. But stereotypes are what they are. It's when a part of a story is picked out and the others thrown in into the bin. I'm sure those who will agree with Yoruba not being cowards will agree with Igbos being lovers of money. It's the same crime, it's just that when you're at the receiving end of the stick you start churning out what proves contrary to the accusation.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Nobody: 10:58am On Jun 21, 2017
My Afonja crush tellem in Soulja Boy'"s voice
ibkayee:
Proudly Yoruba
Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Nobody: 11:15am On Jun 21, 2017
Afam4eva:
I think anyone group can cite examples as to why they're not this or that. But stereotypes are what they are. It's when a part of a story is picked out and the others thrown in into the bin. I'm sure those who will agree with Yoruba not being cowards will agree with Igbos being lovers of money. It's the same crime, it's just that when you're at the receiving end of the stick you start churning out what proves contrary to the accusation.
Am guessing by the bolded you mean how (2011)
afam4eva: Al_harem has spoken the truth. You cannot eat your cake and still want to have. PDP controls the center.So, states that will benefit from the center are PDP states. They should go and meet oga Tinubu if they feel marginalized
Suddenly turned into (2017)
Afam4eva(m): 9:22pm On May 09

Anybody devoid of tribalism will agree that Jonathan's regime was fair to everybody. The only problem some of you had with the presidency is that he took away the powers of people who had an overwhelming grip on the country's commonwealth. Just because for the first time, Igbos were made to feel like Nigerians again, it became a problem for some of you. it may even interest you to know that there were actually more Yoruba appointees in Jonathan's regime than Igbos and infact there were way more Hausa/Fulani appointees than everyone else. They were only sad that they did not have the overwhelming grip on the country like they currently have with Buhari in power. Sometimes, i'm forced to support the call for disintegration of the country because some of you are just incorrigible and it's nauseating to say the least. The country is not yours to determine what happens and that is why we've been calling for true federalism so that everyone can answer their papa name and APC rode on that, only to get there and change their dance tune from jazz to apala.
The internet never forgets.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Olaolufred(m): 11:23am On Jun 21, 2017
dienlmods:

At least, since the past 50 years we have been fighting to be on our own.... It took the entire Nigerian and British power to keep Igbo's in Nigeria.... But since I was born I have never heard Yoruba's ever wanted to be on their own... Even Hausa/ Fulani once wanted to be own their own.... I repeat, coward are those who can stand on their own and chart their course

Yoruba can only fight for what he believes.
1. We believe In NIGERIA
2. We believe in regional governance.

Nothing else outside this.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by StOla: 11:37am On Jun 21, 2017
Afam4eva:
I've always thought Olubunmi Okogie was Edo.

I believe his mum is from Ibadan/Oyo while his dad is from Edo. But having grown up in Yoruba land and accepted as one, he see himself as Yoruba.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by bakynes(m): 11:37am On Jun 21, 2017
DieBuhari:
The fact that I have an English name doesn't make me English. The fact that they've Yoruba names doesn't make them Yoruba.
That's exactly what Pa Saraki said.
I just checked Wiki, the Emir of Ilorin is Yoruba.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Odingo1: 11:41am On Jun 21, 2017
Yoruba are still cowards, let the agitate for Yoruba nation and make their-self great like Japanese,Biafrans, Germans etc, when you are afraid to face responsibilities,confronts issues and call a spade a spade then you are nothing but a coward.
Yoruba did not send Jonathan packing but the north did, when you hide from the truth and always play the game of double standard and always sit on the fence waiting for the winner to emerge then I can that the person is an unmitigated coward and has no future.
Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Odingo1: 11:48am On Jun 21, 2017
Olaolufred:


Yoruba can only fight for what he believes.
1. We believe In NIGERIA
2. We believe in regional governance.

Nothing else outside this.

That shows how you people are cowards and like playing double standard
,since 1970 your people are talking about restructuring Nigeria,Yorubas had been in power several times but couldn't do anything.
Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by dealslip(f): 11:53am On Jun 21, 2017
DieBuhari:
The fact that I have an English name doesn't make me English. The fact that they've Yoruba names doesn't make them Yoruba.
That's exactly what Pa Saraki said.
Who doesn't know Saraki to be a politician, he uses those lines in his political transactions. When he needs Yoruba vote, he is Olusola and when he needs Fulani vote he becomes Abubakar. He himself has traced his lineage to Saki in Oyo state. Yoruba speaking part of Kwara state were before now under the Oyo Kingdom.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by dealslip(f): 11:58am On Jun 21, 2017
Odingo1:

That shows how you people are cowards and like playing double standard
,since 1970 your people are talking about restructuring Nigeria, Yoruba had been in power several times but couldn't do anything.

shocked shocked The bolded is a lie. We have only been in power once, infact Igbos have been in power more than Yorubas. Obasanjo, Idiagbon Vs Jonathan, Azikwe, Alex Ekwueme, Ubitu, Aguiyi Ironsi,

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by dienlmods: 12:44pm On Jun 21, 2017
Henryyy:

Liar liar pants on fire.U started chanting Biafra when power was taken out of ur hands in 2015. Btw after all your rants and leading your own kinsmen to death in the course of protests, one would expect u to welcome the Arewa ultimatum with open hands but you are all still here crying about victimisation while your leaders are prostrating for the common northerner pleading they should have mercy on your souls. Who are the cowards now? You all are all talk and no action.
It seems you are from moon, igbos have been fighting for Biafra since 1966, but lay low all this years because we are powerless as the northerners hold the ace in nigerian
Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Nobody: 12:56pm On Jun 21, 2017
dienlmods:

It seems you are from moon, igbos have been fighting for Biafra since 1966, but lay low all this years because we are powerless as the northerners hold the ace in nigerian
Blatant rubbish. What happened to Biafra when GEJ was president?If my memory serves me right am very sure there were no agitations.Stop being an hypocrite.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Olaolufred(m): 1:01pm On Jun 21, 2017
Odingo1:

That shows how you people are cowards and like playing double standard
,since 1970 your people are talking about restructuring Nigeria,Yorubas had been in power several times but couldn't do anything.

I respect your opinion.
Though untrue.
Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by daveson2020(m): 2:25pm On Jun 21, 2017
grin grin grin OK then. Please if they aren't cowards what are they?. Hero?, because I still remember their role when AWO took OGWU OKE and abiola's case too grin grin
Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Nobody: 2:36pm On Jun 21, 2017
DieBuhari:
The fact that I have an English name doesn't make me English. The fact that they've Yoruba names doesn't make them Yoruba.
That's exactly what Pa Saraki said.


Fact that they bear saraki doesn't make them Fulani either. Now to the pertinent question disprove to me Saraki is not a Yoruba name.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Nobody: 2:41pm On Jun 21, 2017
Odingo1:
Yoruba are still cowards, let the agitate for Yoruba nation and make their-self great like Japanese,Biafrans, Germans etc, when you are afraid to face responsibilities,confronts issues and call a spade a spade then you are nothing but a coward.
Yoruba did not send Jonathan packing but the north did, when you hide from the truth and always play the game of double standard and always sit on the fence waiting for the winner to emerge then I can that the person is an unmitigated coward and has no future.


If Yorubas are cowards what are igbos, limp noddles Ofcos. As long as Yorubas are not agitating for Yoruba nation they are cowards to igbos. If that is the definition of cowardice then we are vindicated

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by TheKingdom: 2:43pm On Jun 21, 2017
AshiwajuFoward:


Some of you igbos are so ignorant that it ain't even funny. Ilorin was never conquered in any battle. The city's inhabitants willingly accepted the emirate system in line with their strong Islamic affiliation. The city was never conquered nor subdued in any battle as you and your Ilk would like to paint and believe. Afonja had already lost the confidence of his ilorin Yoruba muslim brethren by the time the fallout between he and Alimi occurred.

In 1895, the Yoruba rose against the then emir, burnt his palace and killed him. But the revolt did not result in enthronement of a Yoruba king -- it certainly would have if those Yorubas that perpetrated this act were under bondage of emirate oppression and domination, as you like to paint it.

In 1913, when Lord Lugard administered the northern and southern Nigeria, Yorubas again spearheaded a riot over tax to bring the rulership of the then emir to ridicule.

In 1936, the Yorubas of ilorin yet again ousted Emir Abdulkadir who was banished to Kaduna but was later reinstated by the colonial administration.

For all intents and purposes, the emirate is a mere traditional institution that exists only because ilorin Yorubas (not even the entire Kwara folks sef) still chose for it to remain, as the above history shows. You people just talk crap about what you know little to nothing about.

The truth after all the story story is that Yoruba man no fit fight when there is Owambe and chics to chase.
Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by salford1: 4:06pm On Jun 21, 2017
dienlmods:

It seems you are from moon, igbos have been fighting for Biafra since 1966, but lay low all this years because we are powerless as the northerners hold the ace in nigerian
We tried....but you lots through azikiwe wanted unity.

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by imam07: 4:17pm On Jun 21, 2017
Why yoruba will be governing themselves.Nigeria belongs to all of us and we believe in unity in diversity,but if not for u ibos that want to cause disunity in this country.
You call yoruba coward.Where are those biafrans that displayed their stupidity bravery in front of Nigerian army with AK47 some times ago?They are all in six feet deep.
dienlmods:
Whether Yoruba's are coward or not is irrevant... If Yoruba's are not coward, they should have by now governing themselves.... Brave people are those who can stand on their own....and I do not see such bravery in Yoruba's.... All I see is diabolical 2 faces people who uses dubious means to achieve their evil aim by being willing tool and colliding other evil people to ripp off others

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Re: " Yorùbá Is No Coward" -cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by imam07: 4:30pm On Jun 21, 2017
How old are u?I believe if ur fore father have told u how u people suffer during biafra war,u wll not come here and spill rubbish.Let me tell u why the ibos eat more leaves than the other tribe.May be u have not heard about it b4.Leaves and grasses was the only thing left for the ibos to survive on during d war.In order not to die of starvation,u ibos lived on leaves to live,so you ibos discovered different types of leave as food.So i u dont want to compete with goats again,stop agitating for biafra.
dienlmods:

At least, since the past 50 years we have been fighting to be on our own.... It took the entire Nigerian and British power to keep Igbo's in Nigeria.... But since I was born I have never heard Yoruba's ever wanted to be on their own... Even Hausa/ Fulani once wanted to be own their own.... I repeat, coward are those who can stand on their own and chart their course

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