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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:31am On Jun 23, 2017
gabbytabby:
I kuku dey but una Mr Trump has been taking my social media time of late. Can't seem to believe the lunatic got through the asylum gates to become president.

If its possible for anything more to surprise person he has then been acting like person wey him village people don tie for padlock.


When his first travel ban went into effect, my wife (resident alien then) and I were in Nigeria. She made up her mind there and then to pursue citizenship.

He's shaken the lunatic tree and all sorts of weirdos have fallen out and creating havoc over here.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:34am On Jun 23, 2017
diordaves:


EgunMogaji I like your double slippers; can you cost it as well please.

That's the wire sellers fashionable slippers cheesy

Una guys too dey carry amebo grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 10:40am On Jun 23, 2017
johnson232:

What are the sizes of the plots?

4plots, a plot is 50ft x 100ft.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 10:40am On Jun 23, 2017
twinskenny:
@allCopacetic

you make one of my client change all his AC SWITCH kudos to you sir.. grin grin despite the fact that the accessories was bought from UK
Oh the ULTI right,
Thanks chief. Hope they're still working fine
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 10:45am On Jun 23, 2017
44chux:


Due to repeated cases of unsatisfactory customer service and aftersales support, I stopped every NL biz transaction.

But for AllCopacetic I made an exception because he has, till date, been the only NL contact that follows through with his WARRANTY, going as far as to replace defective items as well as goods missing in transit.

@AllCopacetic please bear with me. The Tyranny of time affects even my most notable intentions.
My Oga grin
We have come a long way, and will hopefully go farther.
Thanks for your sustained trust and faith.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 11:04am On Jun 23, 2017
Very wise idea might tell my mum to do same but she is quite non challant about it saying as far as them no go ban her from 9ja.

I ended up paying extra cos I wan avoid going through lunatic/weirdo events and surprises for una side. It cant continue like this oh cos them wan take person back to the bad old days.

EgunMogaji:


When his first travel ban went into effect, my wife (resident alien then) and I were in Nigeria. She made up her mind there and then to pursue citizenship.

He's shaken the lunatic tree and all sorts of weirdos have fallen out and creating havoc over here.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:40am On Jun 23, 2017
I really wish to convert a Lagos Molue like this but not in Lagos but Delta. The transport costs to Delta didn't make sense as at last try.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 11:40am On Jun 23, 2017
allCopacetic:

Oh, then I understood you out of context Sir. I made a blanket statement to infer that integrity issue can come up, which was why my response was general.

Speaking of guarantees, I prefer to let my reputation speak. no seller would admit to selling you fakes in the first place. It's not difficult to come out and shout integrity integrity

But since you insist on a direct answer, let me be VERY categorical smiley

"ALL" our Cables are supplied by the Factory, So they are 100% guaranteed to be authentic.
We do not directly or indirectly sell or encourage the sale of adulterated cables (which infact greatly affect our business)
If our pricing does not work, it's goodbye and thanks for considering us.

I know l will be re-assured, l just want others to be re-assured as well.
With you, it is 101% guaranteed.
Keep it up
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 11:49am On Jun 23, 2017
mufutau55:


Sorry if you dont like the response. I am just telling you the process I and others went thru to make sure we dont get any fake, also for the benefit of the others.

Hajji M.

Sorry, its not about liking or not liking your response please. That is completely irrelevant.
I just want the "principal person" involved, to be the one giving the assurances, not a 3rd party.
Giving assurances of that sort, on behalf of somebody, is completely ineffective, when the chips are down
But not to worry any further, l am very satisfied @Alcopacetic has done the needful.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:59am On Jun 23, 2017
diordaves:
I really wish to convert a Lagos Molue like this but not in Lagos but Delta. The transport costs to Delta didn't make sense as at last try.

These are the kinds of things I want to be doing in my retirement.

I wish the youths would think of restoring stuff or improving on things instead of thinking of making toy looking cars.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 12:11pm On Jun 23, 2017
44chux:


Town planning Authority is supposed to inspect and certify a building fit before occupancy.
Infact after building plan approval, we are supposed to serve them with notice of commencement and of completion for them to dispatch their inspectors for site visit
Thanks for the clarification. Many people don't even know some of this government agencies exist neither known their function, due to failure in the system for over decades. Couple of days back I red when people start debating about fencing height, many States have their rules when it's come to your fence height. For example in Abuja, there are many zoned areas where your fence can not be above 1 - 1 1/2 meters hight, otherwise you will never get approval for the building. If you choose to take law to your hand, in no time the agency in charge will pull that fence down and send you the bill for their service. Many time I don't blame people that go out of normal channels to get things done, most time some of those agencies staff are worst the Even the kidnapper. There was one inspector that came to one my site that I will never forget. This dud asking the workers quality of sand the block was made off and which rivers was the sand dredge from. Can you imagine that.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 12:21pm On Jun 23, 2017
EgunMogaji:


These are the kinds of things I want to be doing in my retirement.

I wish the youths would think of restoring stuff or improving on things instead of thinking of making toy looking cars.

Spot on man, Spot on. In a country like Nigeria, unemployment can be a state of the mind. Waiting for government for everything is not beneficial. A kid 'invents' practically a toy car and then wait for government to help. What's that.

Graduates instead of looking for work for donkey years, convert an abandoned Danfo to sell ice cream, kunu, kilishi, suya etc. Convert Keke Napep to selling Ewa agoyin and bread, dundun and Koko, beans and dodo. Package it well with a clean environment and disposition. Then say farewell to unemployment.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 12:22pm On Jun 23, 2017
diordaves:
I really wish to convert a Lagos Molue like this but not in Lagos but Delta. The transport costs to Delta didn't make sense as at last try.

hmmmmm, not to discourage you, but pls get a good engineer to do the calculations, n not just give a local welder to weld some stuff, b4 that vehicle was put on the road in the uk..serious calculations hv been done, center of gravity, stability concerns etc

2ndly most nigerian roads hv low hanging cables,/flyover/pedesterian crossing etc that wud surely entangle a vehicle of this hieght, unless you wud hv a fixed route wch you hv presurveyed, and the driver warned thoroughly not to deviate from a presurveyed route.....

i think the cons outweigh the pros in this case, nigeria isnt ready for this vehicle yet as a means of public transport

you may wish to create a thread in the auto section, siena wud hv been of great help
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:48pm On Jun 23, 2017
diordaves:


Spot on man, Spot on. In a country like Nigeria, unemployment can be a state of the mind. Waiting for government for everything is not beneficial. A kid 'invents' practically a toy car and then wait for government to help. What's that.

Graduates instead of looking for work for donkey years, convert an abandoned Danfo to sell ice cream, kunu, kilishi, suya etc. Convert Keke Napep to selling Ewa agoyin and bread, dundun and Koko, beans and dodo. Package it well with a clean environment and disposition. Then say farewell to unemployment.

Even though I know the capital may not be readily available, but I see a lot of heavy machinery like bulldozers, tracors, etc that are broken by the wayside. I feel they can be learnt and reparied and turned into money making ventures.

There's no reason why they can't make borehole drilling rigs that are cheap. Practically all houses needs a borehole in Nigeria. This rip off N5,500 per meter or whatever drilling fees will be sidelined when competition is stiff due to readily available locally manufactured drilling rigs.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 1:01pm On Jun 23, 2017
earthrealm:


4plots, a plot is 50ft x 100ft.
Budget 50-60k for digging
budget 50-60k for blinding labour.

The above amount can be a little bit more or less, as labour cost also varies with location.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 1:16pm On Jun 23, 2017
johnson232:

Budget 50-60k for digging
budget 50-60k for blinding labour.

The above amount can be a little bit more or less, as labour cost also varies with location.

ok thanks, i thought there was an average rate/charge for the ops say per 10ft or 20ft etc
also if the land is to be 1plot or 2 plots, can i conveniently divide by 4 or 2 respectively to get quotes for 1 or 2 plots?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 1:37pm On Jun 23, 2017
earthrealm:


ok thanks, i thought there was an average rate/charge for the ops say per 10ft or 20ft etc
also if the land is to be 1plot or 2 plots, can i conveniently divide by 4 or 2 respectively to get quotes for 1 or 2 plots?
@bold....it can also work
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 1:57pm On Jun 23, 2017
earthrealm:


hmmmmm, not to discourage you, but pls get a good engineer to do the calculations, n not just give a local welder to weld some stuff, b4 that vehicle was put on the road in the uk..serious calculations hv been done, center of gravity, stability concerns etc

2ndly most nigerian roads hv low hanging cables,/flyover/pedesterian crossing etc that wud surely entangle a vehicle of this hieght, unless you wud hv a fixed route wch you hv presurveyed, and the driver warned thoroughly not to deviate from a presurveyed route.....

i think the cons outweigh the pros in this case, nigeria isnt ready for this vehicle yet as a means of public transport

you may wish to create a thread in the auto section, siena wud hv been of great help

I'm not sure but I think you missed the point. It's not converting into a double decker for Nigerian roads. It pimping up an abandoned decommissioned Molue into a trendy bar, or ice cream Parlour. You don't need high powered engineer for that. You will need spraying and panel beating skills though. Just situate the pimped Molue in a choice location with good footfall.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 2:53pm On Jun 23, 2017
44chux:


Town planning Authority is supposed to inspect and certify a building fit before occupancy.
Infact after building plan approval, we are supposed to serve them with notice of commencement and of completion for them to dispatch their inspectors for site visit

Good.

I have a question, do you serve these papers and follow up to ensure that the builders/owners comply to the rules before moving into their new houses? I hope you are referring to Lagos and Abuja alone?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 3:00pm On Jun 23, 2017
diordaves:


I'm not sure but I think you missed the point. It's not converting into a double decker for Nigerian roads. It pimping up an abandoned decommissioned Molue into a trendy bar, or ice cream Parlour. You don't need high powered engineer for that. You will need spraying and panel beating skills though. Just situate the pimped Molue in a choice location with good footfall.

ooh my bad, i missed it. i thought you wanted to convert it to a double decker commuter bus as used in the uk.
you plan sounds cool then, carry go!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 44chux(m): 12:15pm On Jun 24, 2017
spyder880:


Good.

I have a question, do you serve these papers and follow up to ensure that the builders/owners comply to the rules before moving into their new houses? I hope you are referring to Lagos and Abuja alone?

Your question is kind of confusing.

For starters am no expert and what I know is generally gathered from years of observation of the workings of some state Authorities. I assume that since the state laws are generally derived from the federal decree, then disparities should be minimal

Normally they just end up serving you a notice of violation and expect you to come settle. However they have the power to recommend your house for demolition. In PH they mobilised to demolish one building because of setback violation after the Neighbour claimed that rain water from that compound's roof fell directly into his plot. The landlord had to couch out close to a million. In Abuja and Warri I have witnessed houses demolished for reasons like blocking of flood ways / drainage masterplan.

You know that leaving a police case file open when the case is cold is generally asking for future wahala from some smart asS corrupt officer. So its cheaper to go by the book.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 7:08pm On Jun 24, 2017
EgunMogaji:


Even though I know the capital may not be readily available, but I see a lot of heavy machinery like bulldozers, tracors, etc that are broken by the wayside. I feel they can be learnt and reparied and turned into money making ventures.

There's no reason why they can't make borehole drilling rigs that are cheap. Practically all houses needs a borehole in Nigeria. This rip off N5,500 per meter or whatever drilling fees will be sidelined when competition is stiff due to readily available locally manufactured drilling rigs.

I don't think it will have a positive impact on the environment if every houses drill a borehole due to the such effect on the stability of our earth crust. What we need is community development program aim at having a central borehole system or a mini water treatment facility for a small community where every member of the community can easily tap into the central system using a simple pipe network system. This will reduce the negative impact on the society, make repair, operation elf the facility easier and cheaper

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:28pm On Jun 24, 2017
abdulwastecx:


I don't think it will have a positive impact on the environment if every houses drill a borehole due to the such effect on the stability of our earth crust. What we need is community development program aim at having a central borehole system or a mini water treatment facility for a small community where every member of the community can easily tap into the central system using a simple pipe network system. This will reduce the negative impact on the society, make repair, operation elf the facility easier and cheaper

Of course it won't be good for the environment and we've discussed this before BUT until the government wakes up to its responsibilities then it's the lesser of two evils.

#Borehole
#Soakaway
#Generators
#Property Setback
#Build Ratio
#100% Cement Build
#Worker Safety

Most of our construction sites would be shut down immediately if in a developed world that favors ecology.

Hope you're good Sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 7:51pm On Jun 24, 2017
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EgunMogaji:


Of course it won't be good for the environment and we've discussed this before BUT until the government wakes up to its responsibilities then it's the lesser of two evils.

#Borehole
#Soakaway
#Generators
#Property Setback
#Build Ratio
#100% Cement Build
#Worker Safety

Most of our construction sites would be shut down immediately if in a developed world that favors ecology.

Hope you're good Sir.

I am good sir...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 12:55am On Jun 25, 2017
lol

That looks like the South Bank near london eye if i am correct, I recall taking a walk down that side last year and bought from this particular vendor. I like the concept, but such things are challenging in Nigeria. There is a place in VI that do nice ice cream in Lagos, last time I went there, they were running on Gen, how is such a biz sustainable ?

diordaves:
I really wish to convert a Lagos Molue like this but not in Lagos but Delta. The transport costs to Delta didn't make sense as at last try.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 9:05am On Jun 25, 2017
Daboomb:


I know l will be re-assured, l just want others to be re-assured as well.
With you, it is 101% guaranteed.
Keep it up
Thanks so much chief, appreciate the vote of confidence
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 10:10am On Jun 25, 2017
mavverick:
lol

That looks like the South Bank near london eye if i am correct, I recall taking a walk down that side last year and bought from this particular vendor. I like the concept, but such things are challenging in Nigeria. There is a place in VI that do nice ice cream in Lagos, last time I went there, they were running on Gen, how is such a biz sustainable ?

Running a Biz that depends on power is challenging in Nigeria,My Mrs run few saloons around Ph, our major problem is Power,it would be nice not to have that to worry about but there we are.I have resolved to old diesel gen as they can cope with dirty diesel.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Larwin(m): 5:24pm On Jun 25, 2017
abdulwastecx:


I don't think it will have a positive impact on the environment if every houses drill a borehole due to the such effect on the stability of our earth crust. What we need is community development program aim at having a central borehole system or a mini water treatment facility for a small community where every member of the community can easily tap into the central system using a simple pipe network system. This will reduce the negative impact on the society, make repair, operation elf the facility easier and cheaper

Good point sir,

This is what most people and government don't understand. Especially in lagos. How many people in lagos have access to fresh water from all the boreholes they are sinking.

Most household have their fresh water turn salty over few months or years of use. This is just a physical example of the adverse effect of having borehole sunk in each household. Its something happening to 90% of lagosians and everybody can see it. We all know the danger involved.

Now, what about the effects we couldn't see or feel....do anybody know how devastating it could be!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 6:24am On Jun 26, 2017
mavverick:
lol

That looks like the South Bank near london eye if i am correct, I recall taking a walk down that side last year and bought from this particular vendor. I like the concept, but such things are challenging in Nigeria. There is a place in VI that do nice ice cream in Lagos, last time I went there, they were running on Gen, how is such a biz sustainable ?


Sure it's Southbank accessed through Royal Festival Hall. Power supply in Nigeria is a long standing business retardant, but if you love-vendor up a Molue, you save up on rent and use the savings to sustain power supply.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mank1234(m): 8:05am On Jun 26, 2017
A central borehole will have the same effect on the environment as individual borehole since water is taken from the same water table underground except if it is pumped from a river or reservoir.

Central borehole will experience same contaminants and therefore not a solution. A better solution is using an advance water purifier which will not only remove the salt but also bacteria, fungi and virus. That can be done economically on individual basis.

Larwin:


Good point sir,

This is what most people and government don't understand. Especially in lagos. How many people in lagos have access to fresh water from all the boreholes they are sinking.

Most household have their fresh water turn salty over few months or years of use. This is just a physical example of the adverse effect of having borehole sunk in each household. Its something happening to 90% of lagosians and everybody can see it. We all know the danger involved.

Now, what about the effects we couldn't see or feel....do anybody know how devastating it could be!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Larwin(m): 8:21am On Jun 26, 2017
mank1234:
A central borehole will have the same effect on the environment as individual borehole since water is taken from the same water table underground except if it is pumped from a river or reservoir.

Central borehole will experience same contaminants and therefore not a solution. A better solution is using an advance water purifier which will not only remove the salt but also bacteria, fungi and virus. That can be done economically on individual basis.


A central borehole is still the solution, with that...the authority can control the extraction rate in other to checkmate the hydrodynamic balancing responsible for any form of contamination and also allow us have a minimal stable crust.

Do you know how much it will cost to carry out a complete treatment? I believe this should be done on a community base.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 9:07am On Jun 26, 2017
diordaves:


Sure it's Southbank accessed through Royal Festival Hall. Power supply in Nigeria is a long standing business retardant, but if you do up a Molue, you save up on rent and use the savings to sustain power supply.

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