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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 11:46pm On Jun 23, 2017
Ara

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:47pm On Jun 23, 2017
genieluv:


Kk. So, what bonds Amharas & Tigrays to the Habesha identity together? anything?
They are northerns(like Ednited mentioned it). They are also descendants of Axumites together with Gurages, Hararis and Tigrinyas(Eritrea Tigrays). All those 5 Habesha people speak Semitic languages.

Amharas and Tigrays were/are also Abyssinians.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:50pm On Jun 23, 2017
mtis:

I like Kagame but sometimes you meet some Rwandese an ya like the one on defensive
Ha ha grin

Kenyans would vote for him anytime

grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:54pm On Jun 23, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Had a Rwandese friend who completely refused to tell me whether he was Hutu or Tutsi.
Sad. And the way their Kagame is busy preaching how there is no Hutu or Tutsi.

"94 is still fresh in their minds.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 11:58pm On Jun 23, 2017
Proforce PF3 ACV.

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Passenger Compartment: The entire personnel compartment of Pf3 is imbued with ballistic protection to BRV 2009 VR7, 7.62 x 51 NATO Ball and all lesser threats, to include AK47 7.62 x 39 Soft Core to the vertical surfaces and roof at 90° to the material. Protection to AK47 7.62 x 39 API is available as an option. Engine Compartment: The engine compartment is armour protected with ballistic steel to CEN Level B6, 7.62 x 51 NATO Ball and all lesser threats to include AK47 7.62 x 39 Soft Core to the vertical surfaces and hood at 60° to the material Wheels: All four wheels (and the spear) are fitted and empowered with run-flat system. Floor and Fuel Tanks: Armouring of the floor and fuel tanks gives protection in excess of STANAG 4569 Level 1 to withstand L2A2 grenades and for enhanced under-body protection. Body Configuration: The fully armoured body of Proforce Pf3 is fabricated and attached on up-rated body mountings: - 8 personnel configuration: 2 front + 6 rear. - Bend seating in the rear. - 8 firing-ports installed: 3 on both left and right sides of the cabin + 2 to back of the cabin. - An armour protected escape hatch is mounted on the roof of the vehicle, which enables increased awareness of the security situation for the personnel on board. - Heavy duty air-conditioning system installed. Electrical Configuration: There are additional standard features in the PROFORCE Pf3 for optimal performance characteristics, including but not limited to: - IR lighting system and convoy light

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 12:09am On Jun 24, 2017
Shaytun:
Proforce PF3 ACV.

Model: PF3 Leopard Engine Capacity: 4000Cc Petrol, VVT-I Fuel tank Capacity: 90+90 Ltrs Gross vehicle Weight: 5 tonnes Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
ARMOURING SPECIFICATION FOR PROFORCE Pf3 Armoured Personnel Carrier-APC
PROFORCE has specially designed; developed and manufactured this security vehicle with armour systems based on OEM 4x4 platforms. This Armoured Personnel Carrier produced by PROFORCE LIMITED is tailor-made to suit the customer’s requirements. Key options, design changes and extra equipments can also be incorporated to meet the specific needs of the customers.
PROFORCE Pf3 APC has the following key characteristics, among others: - BRV 2009 VR7 (7.62x51 NATO Ball/ CEN Level B6/ NIJ III) armour protection and under-body blast protection. - Standardized equipment specification with a wider range of optional equipment packages to enable the vehicle fulfil many security-operations characteristics.
ARMOUR PROTECTION AND VEHICLE SPECIFICATIONS:
Passenger Compartment: The entire personnel compartment of Pf3 is imbued with ballistic protection to BRV 2009 VR7, 7.62 x 51 NATO Ball and all lesser threats, to include AK47 7.62 x 39 Soft Core to the vertical surfaces and roof at 90° to the material. Protection to AK47 7.62 x 39 API is available as an option. Engine Compartment: The engine compartment is armour protected with ballistic steel to CEN Level B6, 7.62 x 51 NATO Ball and all lesser threats to include AK47 7.62 x 39 Soft Core to the vertical surfaces and hood at 60° to the material Wheels: All four wheels (and the spear) are fitted and empowered with run-flat system. Floor and Fuel Tanks: Armouring of the floor and fuel tanks gives protection in excess of STANAG 4569 Level 1 to withstand L2A2 grenades and for enhanced under-body protection. Body Configuration: The fully armoured body of Proforce Pf3 is fabricated and attached on up-rated body mountings: - 8 personnel configuration: 2 front + 6 rear. - Bend seating in the rear. - 8 firing-ports installed: 3 on both left and right sides of the cabin + 2 to back of the cabin. - An armour protected escape hatch is mounted on the roof of the vehicle, which enables increased awareness of the security situation for the personnel on board. - Heavy duty air-conditioning system installed. Electrical Configuration: There are additional standard features in the PROFORCE Pf3 for optimal performance characteristics, including but not limited to: - IR lighting system and convoy light
Impressive! I think they also supply to Rwanda now.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 12:17am On Jun 24, 2017
freshest4live:
Impressive! I think they also supply to Rwanda now.
Also CAR and South Sudan.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 12:23am On Jun 24, 2017
The IGIRIGI.
Designed and manufactured by the army Corps of Engineers, the APC was first introduced to the media during the 2012 Nigeria Army Day celebrations (NADCEL). While actual specs of the vehicle are still undisclosed, observers noted the remote control weapons station, and its IED deflecting V shaped hull.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igirigi_APC

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 12:40am On Jun 24, 2017
The Igirigi.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:40am On Jun 24, 2017
Hati13:

President position is largely a ceremonial one.


The Amharanization process that was imposed on Ethiopia from 1880s till 1991 had very much affected them. That's why.

The region is also inhabited by many different ethnic groups, so Amhargn was chosen as the official language of the region government to resolve the language problem.


• Addis Ababa - almost from all corners of the country, but Amharas, Oromos, Tigrays and Gurages are the majority.
• Biher Dar - Amharas
• Dire Dawa - Amharas, Oromos, Hararis
• Gondar - Amharas
• Mekele - Tigrays
• Awasa - southern Nations Nationalities and Peoples and Amharas
• Harar - Hararis, Amharas and Oromos
• Adama/Nazareth - Oromos
• Dessie - Amharas
• Debre Marqos - Amharas
• Debre Brehan - Amharas
• There are other +100,000 cities/towns

Ethiopia has 9 Regions and 2 Federal States.

• Afar: Capital City, Semera
• Amhara: CC, Biher Dar
• Benishangul-Gumuz: CC,!Asosa
• Gambela: CC, Gambela
• Harari: CC, Harar
• Oromia: CC, Addis Ababa(they are very funny)
• Somali: CC, Jijiga
• Southern Nations, Nationalities, and Peoples' Region: CC, Awasa
• Tigray: CC, Mekele

Federal States
• Addis Ababa
• Dire Dawa

Okay. Thanks

These Southern minorities who adopted Amharagn as their official language, do the people still learn in their own native languages in their schools alongside Amharagn?

I also did a check on these cities you listed for me and i have some questions.

- In Harar, the capital city of Harari region, Oromos and Amharas outnumber the Harari people by far, how come this is the case? i tot Hararis should be more in population in their own region?

- In Dire dawa, apparently Oromos & Somalis outnumber the Amharas. This is in discordance with what you listed for me.

- In Adama (nazreth), Amharic is still more popular than Oromo language and oromos are the majority, how come?

- How do you mean Addis is the capital of Oromia region when it is also regarded as a federal state? How possible is this? Is the mayor of the city an Oromo?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:45am On Jun 24, 2017
Hati13:

No, it's only few of them that have this midst. Most of them like other Africans and support Africa teams during major competition event.

Even those that have that midst, they mostly interact with other Africans when the see and most of the women like to date/marry black Habesha, black non Habeshas. I don't know that much about with other Africans.


I don't know about other Horners, but most Ethiopians don't know what is going on in most of African countries. They feel all African(except SA and Arabs) countries are poor like them.
80% of Ethiopians live in rural areas, so they haven't affected that much by globalization.

Some urban Ethiopians who relatively know better about other African countries struggle to migrate to Sudan, Kenya, South Africa.

Most Ethiopians(the one who are relatively globalized) don't know Nigeria has the biggest economy in Africa. Most think it's South Africa. I will try to advertise how Nigeria cities are beautiful, it's people diversity and many many other positive things. Same also for Kenya.

I myself though that other than the Horn Africans, all Africans are very similar and their isn't that much diversity in those countries, Even if I knew about many African countries name. I thank NL and you guys for educating me very much. The knowledge I got and still getting in NL is beyond I can ask for.

Interesting. Yes, nothing beats enlightenment and exposure.
I sincerely hope Ethiopia becomes more developed economically and urbanized in subsequent years.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Marcelo290(m): 12:47am On Jun 24, 2017
genieluv:


How can you guys say northerners were less informed? When they were the first group of present day Nigerians to start reading, writing n travelling outside Africa on voyages since pre-colonial times?

**** My reply to Ngozi will do you some good too cos i can't start typing all over. We are somehow saying basically the same thing.

Most of what you stated have some atom of truism, but was it why the British liked them more and struggled to smuggle them into power by all means at the advent of independence? definitely No! that is our argument here.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:49am On Jun 24, 2017
Jayceon:
grin grin grin grin grin grin Is that why they don't have a K9 unit in their police force ? .they ate all their German Sharpeds grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 1:58am On Jun 24, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
I think you need to focus on fashion works here and leave anything pertaining to history and poitics to those who took it upon themselves to read wide and not some folklore your dad told you at a fire place.


Your reasoning sounds too shallow to engage you.

Can you disprove her? That is the issue here and not long long talk.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 3:46am On Jun 24, 2017
Hati13:

Yeah, it's also the same here.

What do you think is the reason for the lightness of some of the Nigerians in almost all ethnicities in Nigeria.
Don't think too much into it. It's simply genetics and nothing more or spectacular.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 4:25am On Jun 24, 2017
Marcelo290:
This is very true, environmental determinism.
Is this legitimate?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 4:30am On Jun 24, 2017
genieluv:


Naaah, those clothes belong mostly to Yorubas (South-western Nigerians) buh they are also worn by other groups.
Here are northern Nigerian clothes (core-northern)
Your dedication to clothing grin grin Let me post my older ones grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 4:34am On Jun 24, 2017
jln115:

Google is your friend........ honestly doesn't mean much to have more Animals than the rest of Africa since only Kenya, Tanzania, Botswana , Namibia and Zimbabwe have any large mammals species left:

Total heads of large game:

Kenya: 700 000
Namibia:3 000 000
Botswana:+-2 000 000
Tanzania: less than 1 000 000
Zimbabwe: +- 1 500 000

South Africa: 20 500 000

@TayserMahiri

It's not about meaning anything. It's about being factual........and where did you get these crappy numbers? lol. Maasai Mara alone has over 1 million heads of wildebeest alone dude (the population is actually over 3M after migration from Tanzania). That's just wildebeest - and here you claim Kenya has 700,000 heads of animals?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 4:46am On Jun 24, 2017
jln115:

I know the British did the same to SA, yet you didn't see us blaming it on the colonial masters!!

Yeah didn't Kenya resontly lose its last Northern White Rhino?? Congrats on your conservation efforts only one of your species went extinct in the last 2 years clap clap

Maybe you should unban hunting....just a thought!
Are you an Afrikaner? You sound like one lipsrsealed
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 5:04am On Jun 24, 2017
Shaytun:
Ara
Who manufactured these?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 5:05am On Jun 24, 2017
NairobiWalker:


It's not about meaning anything. It's about being factual........and where did you get these crappy numbers? lol. Maasai Mara alone has over 1 million heads of wildebeest alone dude (the population is actually over 3M after migration from Tanzania). That's just wildebeest - and here you claim Kenya has 700,000 heads of animals?
Has this really turned into animals? . Everything is a fight for Africans.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:40am On Jun 24, 2017
fanficgirl:

Has this really turned into animals? . Everything is a fight for Africans.

We are not fighting dear. We are discussing.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 5:47am On Jun 24, 2017
jln115:

That's what ignorant people who do nothing and know nothing about conservation will say

Kenyans come from a different school of thought. Since time we have lived side by side with animals so the notion of killing animals as trophies is simply taboo. This type of conservation is against our cultural norms and that's the end of it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 5:49am On Jun 24, 2017
Jay254:


I saw you guys breeding lions like broiler chicken... It's not same as Lion producing in the wild.. S.A has allowed GMO Foods while they are highly illegal here, we let nature take it's cause...

Thank you.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:59am On Jun 24, 2017
NairobiWalker:


It's not about meaning anything. It's about being factual........and where did you get these crappy numbers? lol. Maasai Mara alone has over 1 million heads of wildebeest alone dude (the population is actually over 3M after migration from Tanzania). That's just wildebeest - and here you claim Kenya has 700,000 heads of animals?
"The number of the 18 most common wildlife species reduced from a total of 1,809,605 in 1977-1980 to 607,233 in 2011-2013." The number includes your wildebeest population not that of migrating wildebeest since the don't stay in your country permanently!


http://theconversation.com/kenyas-wildlife-populations-are-declining-markedly-as-livestock-numbers-grow-6664
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:02am On Jun 24, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Now if only you could provide a link. Cos you are definitely wrong. The wildebeasts that migrate between kenyan and Tanzania are 2 million in number, so any of Kenya or Tz should have no less than 1 million animals. I believe Wildebeasts are large game.
http://www.maasaimara.com/entries/great-wildebeest-migration-maasai-mara
Those are migrating animals, only permanent heads of game are counted

http://theconversation.com/kenyas-wildlife-populations-are-declining-markedly-as-livestock-numbers-grow-66643
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:11am On Jun 24, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


Can you disprove her? That is the issue here and not long long talk.
Disprove a history revisionist undecided you need to join her in that her fashion expo and stop talking nonsense

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:39am On Jun 24, 2017
fanficgirl:
Who manufactured these?
Proforce Nigeria.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:49am On Jun 24, 2017
INNOSSON NIGERIA The First Black Car Manufacturer.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:56am On Jun 24, 2017
Innoson Nigeria.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:30am On Jun 24, 2017
Wow, glad the thread turned out informative...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 8:56am On Jun 24, 2017
jln115:

Those are migrating animals, only permanent heads of game are counted

http://theconversation.com/kenyas-wildlife-populations-are-declining-markedly-as-livestock-numbers-grow-66643

Fellow Kenyans,you've completely misunderstood the hunting issue. Firstly its a serious biz!

Buffalo $12,740 R178,395
Eland $2,800 R39,390
Gemsbok $1,360 R19,075
Hartebees $1,175 R16,440
Impala $625 R8,730
Kudu $2,630 R36,825
Roan $9,665 R135,295
Sable $8,555 R119,755
Springbok $720 R10,115
Wilde Blue $1,040 R14,560
Zebra Plains $1,265 R17,710

https://www.peterflack.co.za/south-african-hunting-statistics-2015/

The last firm figures I can find is from 2015:
The hunting industry in South Africa brings in more than $744 million each year. [/b]The industry employs about 70,000 people. And about 9,000 trophy hunters travel to South Africa every year.

https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/trophy-hunting-south-africa/2412610.html

Mind you much of this money goes where its needed most-rural areas. Trackers,skinners,drivers,bearers,camp personnel all make living off hunting safaris. Forget the airlines,car hire,hotel owners and taxidermists,the guys who stuff the animals for a minute. [b]TayserMahiri,jay254 and gallivant,would you have them ban this industry with its many numerous financial knock on benefits?


Once you anthropomorphise animals and pretend they're human you get poo like ivory burning. Do you have any idea how much money people will pay for single highly detailed carved pieces like the last two? A million dollars,goddammit!

That was one of UK's blunders,imo.

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