4 years back I went to the Nyahururu KWS offices for a duck shooting licence. An uncle has a vacant 20 ac right on L Olbossosat,a seasonal migratory route. The law says you're limited to 15 birds per gun per day for the duration of the season. This is why shotguns come equipped with a dowel. This limits the size of the magazine limiting you to only 2 shells to comply with hunting laws.
Its not a slaughter! That's not in anyone's interest-keep the species going so other duck shooters can return and pay KWS fees which pays for their ops,btw. A much better option than foreign funds which come with the funders own numerous neuroses.
Have you seen the duck flocks above L Olbossosat in the season?! Anyway I got the Nairobi HQs to be shocked when I was told ALL HUNTING IS NOW BANNED. Ducks,even rabbits,anything, even on private property is now a criminal offence. In the early 2000s these above named foreigners hijacked the KWS,using local ignorant media and imposed a draconian mindset equating hunting with murder!
Looking at the S African hunting success story-can we continue paying the opportunity cost of childish illogical regulations?! Should we?

genieluv:


They r not just clothes. African clothes r an element of your identity.

You have to understand Kenyan history. Kenya was a Settler colony, meaning a lot of culture was deleted by the Brits. I guess Nigeria was an indirect colony, meaning a lot of culture is still intact. Thats why our culture is not as 'African' as yours. Gerrit?

TayserMahiri:


Can I ask what exactly the King does?

Basically the office is more of a ceremonial one. However they engage in traditional administration of their people, they r the custodians of the cultures of the people. They help in settlings customary disputes. They have the respect of the people, so, people do look up to them for guidance, direction, blessings n support.

Hati13:



I tried, but I can't find on the Internet.

I know an Afar student in my University class and he seems similar like us. You are right that there is a distinction, but they are similar in some features.

By the way, they are very fearful by almost all other Ethiopians. Most of them don't know jokes and he might kill you make him angry or wants with no reason.

Feared? Are they so barbaric in nature?

TayserMahiri:


You right. We would have to resort to bad mouthing like our brodas do when asskicked. Fortunately (unfortunately for us ) was told they wont elect Malema which means their economy might do well in the next years. We got to hit double digits

I have too much dignity to get involved in such b.s.. Throughout this thread I highlighted their fake stats and gave concrete examples of how we're ahead e.g. HDI,LPI and legatum prosperity index. With RSA trustme dude, we ain't there yet! Like I said not til at least a decade of 7% growth and if the South stays sluggish.

Hati13:

Could you explain it.
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The masquerades like i told you are mostly elements of ancestral religions n deities.
Some used to be believed to have mystical powers, some r believed to be messengers of the gods, some r believed to be the gods themselves or spirits.
It varies from culture to culture.

****Many Nigerian christians n muslims no longer have interest in masquerades n some condemn it cos apparently they are festish or symbolic of the pagan religions of our ancestors. Some believe they should be retained as elements of our culture. My own opinion is in between cos some Nigerian traditionalists use these things to molest or take advantage of innocent people n truly they are fetish.

Hati13:

Could you explain it.

There is a yearly national festival for all ethnicities in Ethiopia to show their respective cultures. It's called "Bher Bhereseboch baele" and celebrated around Hdar(November). The place of celebration will be rotated annually from regions to regions and Federal States.

As far as I know, there is public festival called "Ashenda/Shadey". It's celebrated by Wag Hemra Agew, Tigray, Tigrinyas(Eritrea Tigrays) and Rays. But, they don't attire like the pictures above.
By the way, I'm Wag Hemra Agew from my mother side.

1. Wag Hemra Agew Song named "ye Agew lage".
2. Bher Bhereseboch baele
3. Tigray - Ashenda
4. Wag Hemra Agew - Ashenda


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD65ICaG5GA

Wow, this is great.
Where was the last one held? Did u attend?

*** Is agew an independent ethnicity or a subgroup of an ethnicity? Cos i've never heard of them. Which regions r they found?

QueenOfNepal:
I think you need to focus on fashion works here and leave anything pertaining to history and poitics to those who took it upon themselves to read wide and not some folklore your dad told you at a fire place.


Your reasoning sounds too shallow to engage you.

Now am shallow cos you cannot disprove any of my points n you feel ashamed of yourself.

*** If i'm not mistaken, you recently joined this thread n am yet to see anything positive you brought here apart from trying to cause divisions n ill-feelings. so why dont u crawl back to the hole you came out from?

Nowenuse:


Okay. Thanks

These Southern minorities who adopted Amharagn as their official language, do the people still learn in their own native languages in their schools alongside Amharagn?

Up to Grade 6, they do learn the different subjects other than Amhargn and English Subjects by their local languages.

After Grade 7 till end of University, all Ethiopians learn using English except for Amhargn and other languages related subjects/cours.

Nowenuse:
I also did a check on these cities you listed for me and i have some questions.

- In Harar, the capital city of Harari region, Oromos and Amharas outnumber the Harari people by far, how come this is the case? i tot Hararis should be more in population in their own region?

I'm also amazed by this. During Oromo population movement, almost all Oromos around Adal heavily mixed with the Hararis and may be the majority of those mixed started to identify themselves as Oromo.

In the case of Amharas, after Menelik army defeated Hararis in the 1890s, many Amharas stolen lands from the locals and settled their.

After the conquest, many northerners started to settle in all the conquered areas guarded by soldiers called "Neftegnas". Actually, my father parents settled from north to south under this system. Since my father was true socialist, he opposed this system.

Now, most of Ethiopians insult Amharas by the term "Neftegnas".

Nowenuse:
- In Dire dawa, apparently Oromos & Somalis outnumber the Amharas. This is in discordance with what you listed for me.

Thanks for the correction

Nowenuse:
- In Adama (nazreth), Amharic is still more popular than Oromo language and oromos are the majority, how come?

I think because Adama had been very influenced by the Amharanizition process in the past and that effect is still affecting it. Most Oromos surrounding Addis Ababa can speak Amhargn, so they may use Amhargn for public situations in Adama.

Nowenuse:
- How do you mean Addis is the capital of Oromia region when it is also regarded as a federal state? How possible is this? Is the mayor of the city an Oromo?

Yes, the mayor is Oromo.
I don't know how it's possible for them to have Addis as their capital. They even call Addis Ababa as "Finfina". They say Finfina was stolen from them by Shewa Amhara Atse(emperor) Menelik II. It's a funny claim, because they themselves too conquered and stole that area from Abyssinia Amharas.

The reason Atse(emperor) Menelik II conquered SW, S and SE areas isn't only to bring back the previously lost areas, but also to retaliate Oromos for their brutal expansion. It's believed that Menelik soldiers had annihilated(massacred, mutated and sold as a slave) half of Oromo population back then. Now, they are majority and causing problems.

Nowenuse:


Interesting. Yes, nothing beats enlightenment and exposure.
I sincerely hope Ethiopia becomes more developed economically and urbanized in subsequent years.

Thanks wendem

kikuyu1:


I have too much dignity to get involved in such b.s.. Throughout this thread I highlighted their fake stats and gave concrete examples of how we're ahead e.g. HDI,LPI and legatum prosperity index. With RSA trustme dude, we ain't there yet! Like I said not til at least a decade of 7% growth and if the South stays sluggish.

So you think you are up to Nigeria's level because of HDI! keep deceiving yourself, you are not to be blamed, but we are to be blamed for even engaging you for so long, all in the name of education and discussion.

Marcelo290:
Most of what you stated have some atom of truism, but was it why the British liked them more and struggled to smuggle them into power by all means at the advent of independence? definitely No! that is our argument here.

Yes, it was part of the reasons, buh it may not be all.

You guys keep on talking about the British empowering the northerners buh you are not elucidating the steps or measures at which this so called empowerment was carried out.

**** First of all, the reason the Hausa-fulanis or northerners seem so powerful today was because the British created a very large n powerful northern Nigerian region n these same British tried their best to homogenize this large northern region while the southern region was balkanized into western n eastern regions.

>>>> The british promoted the use of Hausa as a lingua franca to homogenize northern Nigeria n it worked perfectly n this they effectively carried out through the indirect system of rulership where almost all northern minorities were classified under Hausa-fulani emirates irrespective of their histories n cultures and we were all ruled directly from the Sokoto Sultanate, hence we all developed a united AREWA identity against our own independent ethnic identities. This is something you southerners never had!

Some, culturally Southern Nigerian areas (like the yorubas of Kwara n Kogi) were also annexed into the Northern region (all in order to create a large intimidating northern region).

>>>> Now, tell me why a united Northern Nigeria will not dominate a fragmented n balkanized southern Nigeria??

genieluv:


Feared? Are they so barbaric in nature?

They are more or less. But, recently they have been integrating with other societies and their temper is started to decrease. But they are still feared and most of the time, you need to play by their rules, especially in their region.

Marcelo290:
Most of what you stated have some atom of truism, but was it why the British liked them more and struggled to smuggle them into power by all means at the advent of independence? definitely No! that is our argument here.

Sometimes i find you Southern Nigerians to be heavy hypocrites (am sorry if i sound insultive).

**** You guys keep on talking about how northern Nigerians dominate the military, politics or whatever buh you do not talk about how you guys dominate the economy of the country.
You guys are not talking about how the British favoured you guys by establishing the capital of the country in Lagos n how this has brought heavy development n urbanisation to Southern Nigeria n how this has made Southern Nigeria the economic powerhouse of the country.

Why don't you guys tell this to the Kenyans? ephi321 n co

PissedYagami:

You have to understand Kenyan history. Kenya was a Settler colony, meaning a lot of culture was deleted by the Brits. I guess Nigeria was an indirect colony, meaning a lot of culture is still intact. Thats why our culture is not as 'African' as yours. Gerrit?

An that explains alot...i think the whites intended to stay around

Maduawuchukwu:


Before colonialism, the Hausa-Fulani were easily the most advanced Nigerians. They had the best tax code, they could read and write in Arabic, they were administrators etc. As at this time, many ethnic groups in were at very primitive levels. You don't have to agree with all her posts but that's the truth.

Thank you for telling QueenOfNepal, Ngozi123 n ephi321 the truth.

****Hausa-fulanis were more advanced than the rest of us before and even during colonialism buh that is history because today we are doing better than them.

You Igbos n Yorubas are doing way better in education, media, international achievements, economical influence e.t.c and am so proud of you guys n seriously wish my own middlebelt people to catch up with you guys cos it's obvious we are still behind.

Holly I wonder why many Nigerians like to paint the truth with bigotry. Sometimes, admitting the truth helps you work on yourself n bring out the best from within you. This is my school of thought.

mtis:

An that explains alot...i think the whites intended to stay around

Lol @ PissedYagami, buh didn't the whites also wanted to stay in Uganda, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Namibia et al? Buh the people of these countries apparently aren't as westernized as you Kenyans.

genieluv:


Thank you for telling QueenOfNepal, Ngozi123 n ephi321 the truth.

****Hausa-fulanis were more advanced than the rest of us before and even during colonialism buh that is history because today we are doing better than them.

You Igbos n Yorubas are doing way better in education, media, international achievements, economical influence e.t.c and am so proud of you guys n seriously wish my own middlebelt people to catch up with you guys cos it's obvious we are still behind.

Holly I wonder why many Nigerians like to paint the truth with bigotry. Sometimes, admitting the truth helps you work on yourself n bring out the best from within you. This is my school of thought.

have to agree that you do know more stuff about ya Country an sorry about the Ngozi marking you as an imposter in her thread...

genieluv:


Lol @ PissedYagami, buh didn't the whites also wanted to stay in Uganda, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Namibia et al? Buh the people of these countries apparently aren't as westernized as you Kenyans.

What do you mean westernized coz i dont see no feel it ...i wake every day a see Africans doing their African thingy

genieluv:


Sometimes i find you Southern Nigerians to be heavy hypocrites (am sorry if i sound insultive).

**** You guys keep on talking about how northern Nigerians dominate the military, politics or whatever buh you do not talk about how you guys dominate the economy of the country.
You guys are not talking about how the British favoured you guys by establishing the capital of the country in Lagos n how this has brought heavy development n urbanisation to Southern Nigeria n how this has made Southern Nigeria the economic powerhouse of the country.

Why don't you guys tell this to the Kenyans? ephi321 n co

The problem l have with the North is the radicalized form of Islam they practice. The form of Islam that is against western education and promoted by Usman Dan fodio, is what leaves them lagging behind, afterall the British has been away for the past 50 years now.
Take a look at Dangote, he is an example of what the educated core Northerner can become, the northerners had great empires then and the potential to unleash their talents but they have put themselves behind.
The economy and media would continually be controlled by southerners until the core north begin to embrace education and not just Islamic education alone.
Illiteracy is also the reason why many are prone to kill at the slightest provocation in the name of religion.

genieluv:


Lol @ PissedYagami, buh didn't the whites also wanted to stay in Uganda, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Namibia et al? Buh the people of these countries apparently aren't as westernized as you Kenyans.

Uganda, Tanzania were not settler colonies. Especially Tanzania. Show me Zimbabwean culture then

Settler rule
Settler rule refers to the type of colonialism in southern Africa in which European settlers imposed direct rule on their colonies. Settler colonies differed from other colonies in Africa in that a significant number of immigrants from Europe settled in these colonies. These immigrants or settlers were not like missionaries or European colonial officials. Just like early European immigrants to the United States and Canada, settlers in Africa planned to make the colonies their permanent home. In order to thrive in the colonies, settlers demanded special political and economic rights and protection. Security and prosperity for the settlers depended on economic exploitation and political oppression of the African population that vastly outnumbered the settlers. Settler colonies were found primarily in southern Africa including the colonies of South Africa, Southern and Northern Rhodesia (Zimbabwe and Zambia), Angola, Mozambique, and South West Africa (Namibia). Settlers from Holland, Britain, Germany, and Portugal colonized these areas. In addition, settler rule was practiced in Kenya, a British colony in East Africa, and in Algeria, a French colony in North Africa.
genieluv

genieluv:


Thank you for telling QueenOfNepal, Ngozi123 n ephi321 the truth.

****Hausa-fulanis were more advanced than the rest of us before and even during colonialism buh that is history because today we are doing better than them.

You Igbos n Yorubas are doing way better in education, media, international achievements, economical influence e.t.c and am so proud of you guys n seriously wish my own middlebelt people to catch up with you guys cos it's obvious we are still behind.

Holly I wonder why many Nigerians like to paint the truth with bigotry. Sometimes, admitting the truth helps you work on yourself n bring out the best from within you. This is my school of thought.

Yeah the north has been affected by usman Dan fodio Islam, the core Northern tradition and history, if free of radical Islam or merged with just moderate form of Islam would do great.
Today a 15 year old Northerner from Nigeria(Ibrahim) is the youngest Havard student presently, honoured by even Obama himself.

mtis:

An that explains alot...i think the whites intended to stay around

And that is why some never left. And that is also why Kenya has a lot of immigrants from Europe flooding in. British ex soldiers never go back, there are hordes of British expats( fancy word for white immigrants, blacks, Arabs, Indians etc are immigrants, whites are expats) Italians are flooding the coast of Kenya and you have some people like Gilad who will never go back to his country.

genieluv:


Lol @ PissedYagami, buh didn't the whites also wanted to stay in Uganda, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Namibia et al? Buh the people of these countries apparently aren't as westernized as you Kenyans.

But then again our main language is African, not English, like you guys who are so cultured. Checkmate

jln115:

Just to add on my previous comments, I don't mean to bash Kenya, I was simply responding to others.......I in fact love Kenya, I think besides for Namibia, only Kenya shares so much in common with SA culturally, our Sport, history, racial demographics.

Besides how kan you not love the Kenyan 7s rugby team.

The British tried to make Kenya like SA, but they met full resistance. Mau Mau and stuff. They even gave collaborators in the Anglo-Boer war land in Kenya. Thats why you will find places called Trans Vaal, Trans Mara etc here in Kenya. But the rebellion was badass here.
Our rugby and cricket are shittier than yours though better than all other countries in Africa I guess

freshest4live:

This thread is so long because the Ghanians and South Africans were also involved at some point, and if there are Gambians here that thread would also be very long. This is because contrary to what many think, Nigerians love other African foreigners, and would want to discuss with them and even playfully tease some( especially the Ghanians). l'm also happy to chat with Ethiopians and Tanzanians here and even an Algerian, it is rare to find such people.

Gambians should also join here.. We need to know more about other countries..

freshest4live:

Why are you guys arguing about animals? Who got more animals than the other? Really??

You can never understand this... just watch

PissedYagami:

But then again our main language is African, not English, like you guys who are so cultured. Checkmate

While it is true that the official language is English because there are hundreds of indigenous languages, the South west has Yoruba as the major language spoken, the South East has Igbo, the North and middle belt has Hausa. Overtime we have also fused words from Hausa, Yoruba and lgbo into our pidgin English which is widely spoken in the country.

genieluv:


Now am shallow cos you cannot disprove any of my points n you feel ashamed of yourself.

*** If i'm not mistaken, you recently joined this thread n am yet to see anything positive you brought here apart from trying to cause divisions n ill-feelings. so why dont u crawl back to the hole you came out from?

I came here to read up about other African people but your illiteracy on this thread about politics is quite nauseating

freshest4live:

While it is true that the official language is English because there are hundreds of indigenous languages, the South west has Yoruba as the major language spoken, the South East has Igbo, the North and middle belt has Hausa. Overtime we have also fused words from Hausa, Yoruba and lgbo into our pidgin English which is widely spoken in the country.

You should just use one African language, say Igbo,

genieluv:


Wow, this is great.
Where was the last one held? Did u attend?

The Tigray Ashenda was held in Tigray regions and Agew Ashenda was held in Sekota, Wag Hemra zone(Amhara region).

I never in my life attended it. In fact, it was 2 months ago that I went to Shekota for the 1st time. I have fallen in love with that place, so I will attend the event this year(less than 2 months).

genieluv:
*** Is agew an independent ethnicity or a subgroup of an ethnicity? Cos i've never heard of them. Which regions r they found?

Yes, they are independent ethnic groups. They are the one who built the 11 monolithic rock-hewn churchs of Lalibela. It's a one of the 9 UNESCO heritage sites. They are Cushite people. There are 4 Agew languages(3 in Amhara region and 1 in Eritrea).

They were the original inhabitants of northern and central Ethiopia and also Eritrea before the coming of Semites around 2000 BC.

Axumites and their descendants Abyssinians(Amharas and Tigrays) DNA is predominantly Cushite and it's the Agew who contributed more for that Cushite DNA than any other Cushites.

So, we can say:-
• Amharas are majority Agew/Semite mixs among other backgrounds of other Cushites/Omotes/Nilots
• Tigrays are majority Agew/Semite mixs among other backgrounds of other Cushites/Omotes/Nilots

Even the Ethiopian Jews(Bete Israeli or Falashas) are majority Agew/Hebrew mixs and Judaism convert Agews.

Most of the northern and central Ethiopia was under Agew like I mentioned above, but now there areas is relatively very small and their population is also small because most of them either been Amhara or Tigray.

Nowadays, most of the Agews have also mixed with Amharas and Tigrays. For example, my mother is Agew, but she has also Tigray and Amhara backgrounds. Agew are a very proud people and I'm very proud of my Agew background.

3 Agew people exist in Ethiopia. They don't have their own region, but 2 of them has their own Zones in Amhara region and 1 has it's own Wereda in North Gondar zone, Amhara region.
- Wag Hemra Zone, Amhara region
- Agew Awi zone, Amhara region
- Quara Wereda, North Gondar zone, Amhara region.

The last pic is Lalibela church(you should definitely visit it).