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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:04pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Iheanacho is one of the most lethal forwards in the EPL when you compare his goal to game ratio. That is enough to show he is a quality striker. Then when you consider that Pellegrini, Vieira and Guardiola has played Iheanacho in that position, it is clear to show he can play the role. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:06pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Answer those questions one by one first before you start deviating as usual. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:15pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness: Answer which question? It filled with ridiculous assumptions like the ridiculous posts you made without reading or reasoning it out. I can not continue answering basic questions that a simple wearing of your thinking cap will answer. If Guardiola has the best striker, why did he buy Gabriel Jesus? I mean, you want me to answer that even after earlier stating that Guardiola had Aguero and still but Gabriel. You want me to answer why he did not play Iheanacho when Aguero injured when at that time we were under pressure due to a string of poor results and was rapidly changing strategy. Or that we do not know what happened in the back room that suggested using the likes of De Bruyne and Nolito upfront. The answer is simple. Can Iheanacho play as a quality striker? The answer is a clear yes. Nacho secured a contract with City playing as a striker during the preseason game and came out as one of the best players for City. He broke into the City team playing as a striker for the Junior team. Nacho was on loan and we got good reports from America when he scored four goals during a scrimmage game. Playing as a striker. He made good records at City under Pellegrini playing as a striker. This season, Nacho had some good games under Guardiola playing as a striker. This explains Nacho can play as a striker. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:15pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Answer those questions one by one first before you start deviating as usual. ![]() TheGoodJoe: When did Nacho join Manchester City? Before or after U17 World cup? ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:18pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness: Ha. You are doing it again. The coach talking there is a Taye Academy coach. When he is talking about using Iheanacho it was when Nacho was in Taye Academy. The coach talked of how he used Iheanacho as a ten and How Iheanacho performed well. The coach is talking about City playing Iheanacho as he did in the Academy before joining City or the U17. Taye Academy is before U17 World cup. Comprende? Try and read the articles you post. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:22pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Storrrryyy! Answer those questions first. Thank u. ![]() @bolded you mean, for Guardiola to get good result, he needed to consider the third striker and an ATM ahead of the best striker in the EPL in the person of Nacho? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:26pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Now, read the whole article and tell who is not doing the reading before mis yannig btw you and I? ![]() ![]() IHEANACHO PLAYED OUT OF POSITION AT MANCHESTER CITY, SAYS TAYE ACADEMY'S EZENWERE By Tomiwa Babalola 10/12/16NIGERIANS ABROAD Getty The tactician has urged the Citizens to stop playing the 20-year-old out of position, claiming he functions well behind a striker Kennedy Ezenwere has told Manchester City that they are playing Kelechi Iheanacho out of position, claiming the Nigerian international performs better as a second striker. The Taye Academy handler said Iheanacho is also comfortable in the attacking midfield role, or on the flanks being a natural left footer. “Kelechi is best utilised as a support striker,” Ezenwere told Manchestereveningnews “He can play as an attacking midfielder, and also play from the flanks. He is a natural left footer so can play from inside left.” “He is good in taking free kicks,” he said. “It is 100 percent possible that he will score against Algeria. “When he was in my team, almost all the competitions we participated he came out as highest goalscorer. “Kelechi will tell me I will score two goals in this match and he always delivers. That’s a natural gift." http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4110/nigerians-abroad/2016/10/12/28398962/iheanacho-played-out-of-position-at-manchester-city-says Check the date of the article. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:31pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness: “When he was in my team, almost all the competitions we participated he came out as highest goalscorer. “Kelechi will tell me I will score two goals in this match and he always delivers. That’s a natural gift." Afraid is catching me. Read the bolded and understand what the coach is saying. Use Iheanacho as I did before the U17 World cup. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:34pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Icon4s: Coming from someone who said he didn't see the impact of Kayode who was still on the bench when he played with Iwobi, Musa and Moses.Bhuuuhahaha ![]() ![]() We know Kayode was never on the pitch while Iwobi played. ![]() ![]() You can't be taken seriously. Oga. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:36pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness: The coach making a choice does not mean the player can not play the role. Mourinho choosing Mikel for the DMF role did not mean Mikel can not play AMF. Guardiola dropping Bony from his team does not mean Bony can not play as a striker. So does Guardiola opting for another player ahead of Iheanacho does not mean Iheanacho can not play as a nine. Logic. Earlier in the season when Aguero got suspended for elbowing a player, Guardiola opted for Iheanacho to play nine and the young man did well. Does that mean Iheanacho could play nine then? Your questions are illogical. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:36pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:39pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Meaning he is not just good enough for the CF position though he can play. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:01pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness: Ha. This is frustrating. So because Rohr did not call Ajagun, it means Ajagun is not good enough to play attack midfield. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:52pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:I believe I have told you before that Aguero isn't and has never been in my top five forwards of this season in fact, Guardiola is just saying the same thing I am saying. Aguero isn't world-class I have said that before and Nacho doesn't cut it as a striker a true nine, how is that hard to grab 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:08pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness: Someone please help me interpret what this clown is saying. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:10pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
If you like count it as one.... Fact is he scored three as a starting CF in those games. Those are what the records state okay. And there is nothing you, me or anyone can do about it. You asked for how many goals and I gave you his stats, now you ask for how many matches... next question will be how many competitive matches has he scored in? Oga... like it or not... Nacho is the best CF we have for now and by far our best goals scorer upfront. That is the painful truth for you but the simple truth for some of us. Nacho is also our finest and most lethal finisher. None of the CF options we have can be trusted to finish the way Nacho does and with emphasis too. His deadliness is well underlined... best goals ratio in World's toughest league since August 2015 no be beans biko! A few bad games does not change that or dampen such quality. forgiveness: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:12pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Please ooo help me ask him oooo.... The logic of his arguments keep shifting and taking new shapes. This is very simple for Goodness sake TheGoodJoe: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:28pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: Loz!! @ ' keep shifting and taking new shapes'. Are you referring to an Amoeba here? Haha haha. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:28pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: I remember Nacho missing chances against Senegal, Corsica and Algeria so it's not as if the 'clinicality' is 100%. not to mention that we haven't tried other players in this new system, who knows?they may score more 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:34pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Man City youngsters should not be discouraged by Kelechi Iheanacho exit It is difficult not to feel a tinge of sadness about Kelechi Iheanacho's future at Manchester City, the club he joined as a rising star and represented in an FA Youth Cup final. The Nigerian was used as an example to follow, as one of the first youngsters to be promoted to the senior set-up since the CFA first opened its doors. After turning out for the club at under-18 level, Iheanacho went on to make 64 appearances for the first team over two seasons, scoring 21 goals. But he has struggled to make an impact under Pep Guardiola, and is the subject of interest from multiple Premier League sides. He is still only 20 years old, and it is easy to use his situation as another stick to beat City with when it comes to youth development. After all, City have one of the best academy set-ups in the country, while the facilities available are unrivalled on these shores. So, the narrative goes, why is it that even a player with Iheanacho's talents cannot emerge from the system to make a sustained success at first-team level? What hope is there for others? But the current crop should not be discouraged should the striker depart this summer. Iheanacho was always a poor example of what the CFA is trying to achieve, both now and in the future. It is difficult to argue he was a bona fide graduate of the system, given he did not make his debut until February 2015 - when he was already 18 years old. Although he represented City in the 2015 Youth Cup, it was only in the final - when he scored a tap-in after Aaron Nemane ran the length of the Stamford Bridge pitch before providing an inch-perfect cross. It was one of only a handful of appearances at youth level ahead of a promotion to the first team that summer. That is hardly comparable with the likes of Tosin Adarabioyo, who has been playing in City blue since he was seven. Iheanacho has not been schooled in the City Academy, and has therefore had a very different footballing education from the likes of Lukas Nmecha, who is two years his junior but has repeatedly caught the eye at youth level. As a result, he was far less suited to Guardiola's system than those who come behind him. Nmecha's goalscoring record is excellent, but he also brings more to the table in his all-round game - which Guardiola values City's youngsters are challenged to play in multiple positions, are brought up to cherish possession of the ball, and train in a similar style to the first team. Guardiola is in charge of a squad that is well-stocked with first-class talent, and his transfer activity is only making it harder for youngsters to make the grade. More players are arriving, while the average age is coming down, through the arrival of the likes of Leroy Sane, Gabriel Jesus and Bernardo Silva. The academy staff know all of this. But the players under their care for the long term have had the advantage of being prepared to succeed in the style on display on the other side of the bridge. It would be disappointing to see Iheanacho go, but his skill set does not make him ideally suited to a Guardiola team. The next player to make that breakthrough has a much better chance of being a long term success at the Etihad Stadium. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:44pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Balogun Back In Gym , Training hard For Full Recovery By Johnny Edward ![]() Super Eagles defender Leon Balogun is back training in the gym after an hamstring injury induced one month lay-off, Completesportsnigeria.com reports. Balogun who pulled out of Nigeria's 2019 Africa Cup of Nations qualifier this month against South Afrbattlked out, training in the gym in Germany under the guidance of physical trainer, Ellery Cario as he battled to regain full fitness ahead of the start of the new season The 28-year-old defender was pleased to spend time in the gym with his former teammate Kevin Prince Boateng. "Always great to work out with the @prince09_ but this time we took it to another level thanks to @outlinetraining & @jg_training #TheHustle," Balogun wrote beneath a picture he posted on Instagram with the German born Ghanian midfielder after the session. Both players were teammates at German side, Hertha Berlin from 2004 to 2007 before they departed for different clubs. Balogun made 21 (17 in the Bundesliga) appearances for Mainz last season in all competitions. Only on Tuesday, Wolverhampton Wanderers goalkeeper, Carl Ikeme who also missed Nigeria's 2-0 loss to the Bafana Bafana of South Africa returned to training after being out of action since March. Source: http://www.completesportsnigeria.com/balogun-back-gym-training-hard-full-recovery |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:08am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Messi misses, Ronaldo misses, Aguero misses.... even Lewandowski misses.... missing is part of the business. Who can boast a 100% clinicality in front of goal? who? None.... But records have it that Nacho has the best Conversion ratio also in the EPL at 65.2% or so since August 2015!!!!! In the presence of established EPL strikers like Aguero, Kane, Lukaku, Firmino, Costa et al.... #Fact Kelechi Iheanacho: Of the 59 players to score 10+ PL goals since August 2015, Iheanacho has the best on-target conversion rate (63.2%) pic.twitter.com/qwxkKJoyTm We cannot throw him away and depend on "Maybe's"... He is our most clinical and most deadly forward and finisher.... We have to thread carefully here if Cameroun must indeed be beaten. Kayode, Adi, Martins, Ideye, Ighalo and whosoever you have in mind are not as wickedly clinical. All strikers/forwards miss chances and can have bad days in the office but Nacho's finishing/Clinicality is one of the best in European football. He is the best we've got for now. Mickael2: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:18am On Jun 25, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: you guys don't even understand what these people say sometimes. read it again slowly, best on target conversion rate. that is his off target strikes are not counted just that when he hits the target he scores 65% of the time, not that it is bad just that you are making it sound like he is so conical that anything that comes close to him is a goal. when you consider that most of his goals are tapins no offence that shows just why he has such a ratio. now I am not saying he is.bad just that we should reduce the hype. the other time I said Kayode is faster and presses more than him, you almost reaped out my heart but we all saw it in this last match, that's just my point 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:35am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Alex Porter.... abeg swerve. Goan siddon for one corner abeg. The likes of Stuart Brennan of the same MEN won't put such subtle attempt at comforting oneself just coz they are die-hard City fans. This is an article I read many hours ago and found funny in some aspects. That is why I remember the writer's name. This is a subtle attempt by the writer to make it look like Man City would lose nothing in terms of having The EDS' posterboy go and that Nacho does not fit into Pep's system... if he doesn't fit in then why the hell as they fighting tooth and nail to insert a buy-back clause that suits them?? They are soooo convinced that he will come good and super explode elsewhere that they don't wanna do a Lukaku or pogba... they don't wanna make the mistakes made by Chelsea and Man Utd. Iheanacho did what none of the City youngsters have done and may never do... breaking into City's first team and taking the EPL by storm in first professional season. #HugeHeights If this writer thinks it would be easy for the likes of Nmecha, Jadon Sancho, Aleix Garcia, Maffeo, Gunn, Manu Garcia or even the delectably skilled Brahim Diaz to establish themselves as important parts of City's first team, then he better think again. I think the lad with the brightest chance is Brahim Diaz... yet no guarantees with the way Pep keeps tearing the cheque book. Alex Porter should plsss go take a backseat abeg. Sad to see Iheanacho go yet you make it sound like he was never vital. Funny. BascoVanVeli: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:42am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Oga keep quiet abeg. Trying so hard to discredit this lad. What is wrong with you sef?? This is becoming so irritating. He has the best conversion rate in the EPL... is that hype or fact?? He is One of Europe's most clinical forwards... and one of the best young strikers around... is that hype or fact?? Is the stats even from me?? WhoScored.com posted that stats and we both know they are as true as the sun.... why can't you just deal with it?? Lad has the Best... not second best... not third best... but the best clinical ratio in a league that has Kane, Aguero and more and you are saying "not that it is bad".... can you imagine? You will see fact and still wanna argue what?? Gibberish?? This is becoming so habitual/common place for some of you here.... shocking! And what did we see of Kayode in the last match biko?? What exactly?? now you are the one suddenly doing what you advise against ba?? Hyping! Kayode was superman when he came on abi?? Even Osimhen showed more class when he came on.. Kayode will always be Kayode.. full of huffing and puffing here and there and runnings... nothing new. So stop your subtle hypes of a player that Nacho is miles ahead of and just accept the truth. Haba!!! Mickael2: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:58am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Ex-Nigeria U15 Sensation Dennis Bonaventure Scores On Club Brugge Debut ![]() Former Nigeria U15 international Dennis Bonaventure netted on his unofficial debut for Club Brugge in their first pre-season match against Westkapelle on Saturday, June 24. The Belgian First Division A club thrashed their opponents 9-0, with the new Nigerian striker finding the net in the 71st minute. Acolatse, Cools (2), Vanaken, Osei-Berkoe, Vlietinck, De Bock and Vanlerberghe were the other scorers for the Blue-Black. Dennis Bonaventure started the game witnessed by 1,500 spectators on the bench and entered into the fray at the start of the second half. The former Zorya Luhansk wonderkid has signed a four-year deal with Club Brugge. **Igho Kingsley Photo Credit : instagram.com Source: http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=23528 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 2:16am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Black Africans what's up....I don dey wella na'im I say make I holla. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:05am On Jun 25, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: Same thing that crossed my mind when I was reading the article. The EDS is a failed project as long as the Execs of the club will continue touring the world for proven talents. Iheanacho was a brilliant addition to the team but if we keep buying forwards, then the EDS boys stand no chance. Tosin Adarabioyo is not putting Otamendi, Kompany or Stones on the bench soon and we are still expected to secure another top class defender. Even the likes of Mangala could not keep up. Securing Kyle Walker and Dani Alves means no chance for Maffeo. We are just helping young boys have a solid foundation but breaking into the City main team is now slimmer with Iheanancho's expected departure. With the arrival of Bernardo Silva who I feel is one of the most gifted players in the game, Brahim Diaz needs to hunt for another team. Sane, Sterling, Silva, De Bruyne, Gundogan etc are just too much competition. Not Iheanacho not groomed to suit Guardiola's style. That is a weak excuse. Was Sterling, Sane and De Bruyne groomed for Guardiola? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:12am On Jun 25, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: That's in the world toughest league. I am talking about the National team. His performances in that position are undesirable. So, how many matches did he play as a point man(CF)? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:42am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Mickael2: Bros if you have been on this thread long enough you'll know I should be the last moniker to hype Iheanacho. I know how I continuously poured cold water on guys here hyping Iheanacho putting him on the same level, if not above, Messi and Ronaldo. But, I can tell you that though Iheanacho may not presently be looking like a player that would take the world by storm as earlier predicted, he is our most lethal striker. It is no hype. Create chances for Iheanacho to score and see whether he wouldn't rattle the net severally. Our opponents now know that Iheanacho needs the balls to score. Cut him off supply and he will be a passenger on the field. Now what I expected of the technical crew is to device a set up that will make the midfield and AM creative enough to dis-organize our opponent's midfield and defense and Iheanacho will continuously find himself in good scoring positions. You saw how Chile did this against Cameroon and Vargas, but for his poor finishing, would have scored at least 3 goals that night. Sending Iheanacho to the bench and fielding another striker without our midfield and AM being creative enough is like moving from frying pan to fire. Talking about creativity that is why I am not just of the opinion that Iwobi should be sent to the bench against Cameroon. Apart from physicality you also need creativity to beat a team like Cameroon. I have severally thought of Iwobi being played as the CM and Ndidi DM and Mikel as the AM. Iwobi hardly makes wrong passes. His through balls are almost always perfect. He is a more creative player than Etebo. Etebo can play from the wings while Iwobi plays the CM role. Mikel and Ndidi to provide physical support to Iwobi. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:36am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Iheanacho is the best finisher we have in this team...anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. I never watched Nacho at the U17s, but at this moment, he is simply a number 9. That was the position he played in city's youth teams. He is now a 9 and needs to work more on his game. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:43am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Icon4s: you do understand that the CMF is the box to box, do you think Iwobi can do that? |
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