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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 1:27am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Hati13: The most sincere people on this thread...wenedem 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 1:46am On Jun 25, 2017 |
genieluv: I totally disagree with you abt d Usman Dan fodio form of Islam been radical here... I have already corrected fresh on dat. The Usman Dan fodio Islam is what most yorubas practice today. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 4:40am On Jun 25, 2017 |
PissedYagami:In Nigeria, there are 3 main regional languages. I'm sure if I go to Kenya, I'll hear more Swahili than English likewise if you go to Nigeria, you'll hear the regional languages than you would English. In Nigeria, the National news are broadcasted in Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa and English. Even an int. org BBC recognize this, that's why they've officially list Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo, and Pidgin as their broadcast languages. What other African countries has 4 of its languages added to BBC? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 5:15am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Hati13:I'm just wondering, I've noticed that the rate of adherents of Ethiopia Tawedo Orthodoxy has declined with an upsurge in Pentay adherents looking at the census data. I've noticed a lot of the upsurge in Pentay and noticeable decline in Orthodoxy can be attributed to the Oromia region. Do you think this has to do with some resentment among the Oromo community due the association of the Orthodox church with Habesha if the church is actually associated with Habesha in Ethiopia since I don't really know the situation. I just want your view on this matter and I'll appreciate your feedback. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:15am On Jun 25, 2017 |
freshest4live: That was so cold what the northerners did... It's a high time Nigerians start working towards breaking this hatred and realize Nigeria will never be thesame if they they separate.. One day Africa will live and Trade as one country same like the U.S and E.U. Time may not be right now but it will surely come to pass. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 5:19am On Jun 25, 2017 |
jln115: GAASSSPP!! How can you say that?! They've quite frankly underperformed of late but theres hope since they recently reached the pinnacle. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:20am On Jun 25, 2017 |
9jakool: That does not make you guys better than countries with common lingua.. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 5:39am On Jun 25, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:Kenya has culture just like Nigeria, so I am not here to argue that. I have heard if the Samburu before especially a few years back for the creation of all female village called Umoja. The truth is, there are a lot ethnic groups in Nigeria and Western Africa alike who predominantly practice their native religions. For example, there is a cultural region in parts of NE Nigeria and Northern Cameroon known as Kirdi with dozens of ethnic groups who adhere to their native ethnic religions. In fact, the word Kirdi means Pagan in Fulani because when the Muslim Toroobe Fulani settled in the region and attempted to convert the locals, they were very resistant to their Jihad. Also, there are many ethnic groups in Nigeria like Hausa or Igbo who are predominantly Christian or Muslim, However there are also many who are mixed in terms of religion like Yoruba, Igala, Etsako, Gbagyi, etc. Even among the Hausa and Igbos, you can till find notable indigenous element like Maguzawa or Odinani respectively. Similarly in Kenya, you have ethnic groups that are predominantly Muslim like Somali or Swahili and ethnic groups that are majority Christian like the Kikuyu. You can also find those who are mixed like Oromo and those that are majority traditional adherents like the Samburu. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:00am On Jun 25, 2017 |
arinzeejikonye: What was the nature of conjoining? Kenya has been separating conjoined twins for years but last year's case was special in that the two girls shared vital parts of their bodies and it was a first one in Africa outside SA. Only SA has done that. Took 23 hours to complete. http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2016/11/conjoined-twin-girls-survive-groundbreaking-surgery-in-sub-saharan-first/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:56am On Jun 25, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:Don't think, it's not your strong suite!! Every expert recommended legalising rhino horn trade and flooding the market thus dropping the price and demand dramatically!! But seem like some nairaland ewarrior knows more about economics than actual economists |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:26am On Jun 25, 2017 |
jln115: You need to look at the peeps who are use this products..it the Chinese for pete's sake..want to know their number..its in billion...dropping price will no reduce demand coz the demand for this products outstrips supply..for Gods sake it economics 101 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:30am On Jun 25, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:msee this is the kind of stuff happening in the science field where honorable scientists pervert science to benefit themslves an that is not soo sciency cc Muafrica2 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:31am On Jun 25, 2017 |
damn!!............. i'm liking @ednited every day by day. I think taysermahiri will face a stiff competition here.... I don't mind flying edo airways to Ethiopia as long as fanficgirl will be the pilot..... as a matter of fact, tayser should just go along with hati13's sister n leave ednited for me.... i'm very sorry to muafrika2, my African queen......sorry to every female on the thread too...... *runs outta thread*.........along with ednited 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:38am On Jun 25, 2017 |
shervydman: dang it you Nigerians why cant you just go after ya own babes..Eastafrica is so far away an i dont think Edo air can reach there |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 8:47am On Jun 25, 2017 |
9jakool:You know so much about other African countries mate, I salute thee |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:49am On Jun 25, 2017 |
mtis: Their own babes look like men in wigs. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:52am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Nowenuse:If the school is in Addis, then those Oromos will learn all subjects until 6 Grade using Amhargn and also take independent Amhargn and English subject. Nowenuse:Amharanizition process through Ethiopia is only 90-100 years, so it isn't that long. Since Amhargn is a basic need to interact with other ethnicities and engage in Addis and other cities, some Oromos and other peoples known Amhargn. They speak their respective languages when they are in their region and with their fellow same ethnic group. Most of the people in rural areas in all corners of the country don't know Amhargn very much, because they mostly interact with their fellow ethnic groups. Nowenuse:Some of them may use Amhargn for public purposes with other ethnicities and Oromo language during with those who know it. Others may only use Oromo language if they live in rural areas. I've came across with some Oromos in rural areas who know not even a single Amhargn word. Nowenuse:The official language of the Federal Gov't is Amhargn. Nowenuse:What I mainly meant by Amharanizition process is promoting Amhara culture in the re-conquered areas and becoming it the official culture of Ethiopia. If a person with other backgrounds want to be a student, go to Hospital, want to be a Christian, go to court or employed in Gov't and Military, he/she must speak Amhargn. Those that want to be identified as an Amhara can join, but majority of the Oromos and others refused. The Amharas saw them inferior if they aren't Amharas, but they weren't forced to be Amhara. And also, since the Amhara domination did only last for 90-100 in all Ethiopia, many Oromos and others didn't lost their identities and those who lost are trying to regain it. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:53am On Jun 25, 2017 |
NairobiWalker: To you this is groundbreaking, but to Nigeria it is not new, Nigeria have done this as far back as 1972 in university of ibadan, before Africa got accustomed to the Internet, It took Kenya about almost 50 doctors to perform this, for about 23 hours and you don't want us to hear a word, when that of University of maiduguri performed same feet for just 12 hours by a couple of doctors in 2011, Did you see Nigerians jumping like monkeys in the safari? Mind you the twins shared vital organs too including liver, intestines, and so on, As a matter of fact apart from this being done in 1972 in ibadan, Other institutions in enugu, Lagos, etc have done these feet, In health Nigeria beats Kenya hands down https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/sunday/index.php/feature/3134-inside-unimaids-breakthrough-with-conjoined-twins-surgery Initially, there were rumours in the town that only one of the twins would survive because of the complexity of the situation.But after meticulous team work and endless prayers from well-wishers, the process turned out to be a huge success.Probably that was why all the doctors were elated, including dozens of medical students who watched the “miracle” via a television. “We have succeeded in separating the two male conjoined twins,” the lead surgeon, Dr Auwal Abubakar said to us. According to him, “in medical terms, we call their situation iskiophagus (joined at the pelvis). This type of conjunction is the most complex, because their lives were conjoined. Both of them have a small intestine, but shared one single large intestine,” Dr Abubakar said. “We are grateful to God for making this possible…we are really grateful,” he said, admitting that the credit goes to many people. According to him “This is not only pediatric surgery, it is a team work. We had pre - surgery conferences together with other specialists, and discussed several investigations. Apart from the liver that was conjoined, we had predicted almost all the abnormalities we found in the babies. “Plastic and reconstructive surgeons played vital roles in reconstruction. Orthopedic surgeons helped us in separating the bones, theatre nurses also assisted in their own field. anathesialogist kept the babies alive and asleep for close to thirteen hours. Our engineers in the hospital contributed immensely, because they placed us on generator and we didn’t have power failure,” Dr Auwal remaked. He also gave credit to the medical students in the hospital. “About nine of them donated the blood facilityused for the operation.” He said the operation took a long time because of the complications inherent in the systems of the babies. “We had to divide the large intestine into two… we also separated the intestine of the first baby, and joined it with the distal part of the bowel that goes into the anus. We then used the other half of the large intestine to construct an anus for the second baby. The process was really complicated,” the surgeon added. He said as a result of the amendments made in the body of the twins, one of the three legs which they were delivered with, had been severed and they would now have one leg each, and that one of them will grow up as a female. “The two babies shared a single male external genital; as such we left the genital to one of them, because it is much easier to construct a female external genital than that of male. We have actually explained this to the parents, and we are going to raise one of the babies as a female,” he said. Asked whether Hussain whose name will be changed to Hussaina (female) will give birth later in life, Dr Auwal said no. “She will function normally, but will not reproduce, because there are no reproductive organs, we have removed the testicles.” He said the children will be kept in the Intensive Care Unit (ICU) for convalescence. “This is not the last procedure of the operation. We would have to do other things to tidy up other problems. We would much later go into the phase of rehabilitation, like getting them an artificial limb,” he said. He said this is the second time that this type of operation was done in Nigeria. “The first was in Ibadan in 1972, but the conjoined twins had four legs. Many other pediatric centers in Zaria, Ibadan, Ife, Enugu and other places, had separated other types of conjoined twins, but this is the second time that this particular type has been done,” Dr Auwal revealed. Asked about the factors responsible for giving birth to conjoined twins, Dr Auwal smiled. “Well, nobody will really tell you the cause of giving birth to conjoined twins, but the case is more common in Africa and Asia. Usually when you have twins, they split into two during their formation, but this one did not.” “It was one of our students who was then in Ningi that saw the mother with the children, and recognized the deformity early. He immediately referred them to us and contacted me for discussion. “We deliberately delayed the operation because the chance of survival if you separate them testicles early is 20 per cent and if done it at that (about one year old) they have 80 per cent chance of survival. This is because, if the conjoined twins are bigger, they would be able to tolerate the anesthesia better, and will stand post operation stress. Their tissues would be bigger, and you will be able to identify them much easier,” Dr Auwal said. He praised the management of the hospital for giving all the desired support. “The management of UMTH had waived all the medical bills of the twins because of the status of the parents. There is no way they could foot the bills of the operation, including all the tests and examinations,” he said. Dr Auwal said the efforts put in by all who took part in the operation will not be in vain. “We think they have good chances of survival even though this is not the last of the procedures of the operation. We would have to do other things to tidy up other problems, because…there similar reported cases around the world and the children are doing very well,” he said. He assured that if given the necessary support, doctors at the hospital have the potentials of doing even more complex operations in the future. Binta, the mother of the twins, said the separation of the twins was the greatest thing that happened to her, and expressed gratitude to God. “When they were ‘gummed’ together, managing their life was very difficult. They had only one anus and you cannot tell who wants to excrete. “Sometimes one will like to sleep and the other might not be in the mood to sleep. I therefore have to cajole all of them to sleep…it was really an experience that I will live to remember,” she said. Binta said she had given birth five times and had never gone to hospital for ante natal care. “I gave birth to all of them at home, through the help of local birth attendants,” she said. Her husband, Isa, said he never thought his twins will have a semblance of normal life. “As a poor man, it was really, very tasking taking care of the twins. The only big support we got was from a former chairman of Ningi local government area, who gave us N50,000 to buy food for the kids,” he said. Isa said since that time, there was no tangible financial assistance, and therefore called on well meaning Nigerians to help them. “The parents really need help because they would remain in the hospital with the separated twins for some time, and you know what this means,” a nurse at UMTH observed. For me, the adventure at the operation theatre was a worthwhile and unforgettable experience. We watched and took pictures as doctors pierced and stitched the babies. “Today, you too (journalists) are honorary doctors,” one of the surgeons humoured as we walked out of the operation theatre. Two days after the operation, the same doctor called and joyfully remarked “The twins are in stable condition, we are pleased with what is happening,” he said. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:01am On Jun 25, 2017 |
arinzeejikonye:Ya joking ehe..you dont put Nigeria an health in one sentence...please dont start something ya not researched please abeg you 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:04am On Jun 25, 2017 |
mtis: Name your groundbreaking feet, you brought separation of complex conjoined twins sharing vital organs, and I showed you, Nigeria did it without noise as far back as 1972,2003,2011 etc Why are you spewing gibberish wenedem? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:08am On Jun 25, 2017 |
arinzeejikonye:lets start 1: Nigeria has highest infant mortality rate in Africa.. lets me add its not a nice to thing to pick for comparison so lets stop this now... |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by safarigirl(f): 9:10am On Jun 25, 2017 |
NairobiWalker:and yet they win world beauty pageants, whatever happened to your own feminine women? Nigerian men will chase anything with a foreign passport. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:11am On Jun 25, 2017 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:12am On Jun 25, 2017 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:12am On Jun 25, 2017 |
[quote author=mtis post=57820646] author=NairobiWalker post=57820878]don't get me wrong pals...........it's parts of our African camaraderie. *do not disturb, off to church* |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:14am On Jun 25, 2017 |
mtis: And her population grew from 50million in1960 to about 200 million in 2015 To hell with such fallacious unsubstantiated fact, the ngo can shove it in their anus, bring it out and suck it up in their buccal cavity, You can believe even a truth from the devil, it is your right to believability wenedem |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:16am On Jun 25, 2017 |
shervydman:pray for nairalanders then wenedem |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:18am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Nabhani: Kk. I get |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:18am On Jun 25, 2017 |
arinzeejikonye:wenedem have never seen you curse so bad..lets then stop with the health thingy then |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:24am On Jun 25, 2017 |
freshest4live: Dude, remember the phrase,'consumption data?' We've talked about this before and its implications on REAL GDP. With that in mind lets look at Pakistan. Its been found out their GDP is at least 25% larger than stated due to consumption data;we can't escape that phrase!! Should we have to wait that long; is there a way of coming up with an order of magnitude about the size of the Pakistani economy? My view is that this could be done by using consumption data to roughly estimate the economy’s size. Good quality data are available on some of what the economy uses to produce the final product...We know how much cement and steel are used, how much petrol and diesel are burnt every year, the quantities of food grains people consume. Converting these data into consumption per head of the population for these critical inputs would provide us with a number of coefficients that could be compared with those of the countries that are similarly situated as Pakistan.https://tribune.com.pk/story/1346902/real-size-pakistans-gross-domestic-product/ Its not complicated;its an easy read even for moderately intelligent mid level school goers. Now,if for example our oil consumption per capita is 110 barrels,yours 93. We're still not a producer like you guys,as you know. http://world.bymap.org/OilConsumption.html Your sugar consumption is 1.6 mn for 180 mn. Ours is 800k for 45 mn. You outnumber us 4 times. Per capita Kenyan sugar consumption yearly is 18 kg while yours is an unbelievable half at only 9kg -HOWW?! Abuja – Minister of Industry, Trade and Investment, Mr Okechukwu Enelamah, says more than 1.6 million metric tons of sugar is consumed in Nigeria annually.http://sundiatapost.com/2017/01/31/nigeria-consumes-1-6m-tons-of-sugar-annually-enelamah/ I could go on with cement but really,nigga,if you must insist your GDP per capita is truly 5800$ then ours is twice the official figure at 7200$. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:29am On Jun 25, 2017 |
arinzeejikonye, you are such a badass just see the way you embarrassed Nairobiwalker, mtis n other kenyans with hard facts above n dumbfounded them for good. Lol ***now i know that most Kenyans r dumb, they can't even google about what they want to brag against to check the situation in Nigeria before bragging. >>> I bet you, many years from now if Kenya probably start manufacturing cars, you will see some Kenyans coming to try n brag how they r now manufacturing cars n how apart from them n South africa no other country in Africa does. How pathetic. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 9:37am On Jun 25, 2017 |
genieluv:We have Mobius cars here |
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