kikuyu1:


I don't want to derail this thread with politics but I'll say this: if UK somehow loses (IMPOSSIBLE! !) I'LL DELETE MY NAIRALAND ACCOUNT! There,I said it!

This 3/4 Mlunje here shares your feelings .I would hate to see him lose bcuz NASA dudes just drive me nuts cuz they have no vision .Kenya is more important than some dudes who feel "its our turn" yet have no solid plans or record (full disclosure i also do have Kikuyu relatives hence the other 1/4)

"Nigeria could be the fast growing economy over the period to 2050"

"Nigeria could push UK and France out of top 10 Economies''


LOL!

Jayceon:
LOL zoogerians convincing and assuring themselves that they are somehow sophisticated human beings.The same uncivilized savages that chop off human heads and mine human skull in the quest of becoming millionaires ...PATHETIC *spits*

Southafricans are ritualists too, if you want l would give you proof.

Lionessza here's another one from England, this happens regularly from countries like England, Russia, U.S, Canada, much more than the drug and scam stories that only come out from Nigerians in Malaysia and other parts of Africa.
https://www.nairaland.com/3892126/queen-england-honours-young-nigerian

freshest4live:

Southafricans are ritualists too, if you want l would give you proof.

give me proof...

Tzardom:
"Nigeria could be the fast growing economy over the period to 2050"

"Nigeria could push UK and France out of top 10 Economies''


LOL!

Wa se George Goch

Jayceon:
give me proof...

Just one click would give you your proof, but then it would become another war here, this isn't my intention, but Africans shouldn't be accusing other Africans of this, so drop it while you can.
But if you must insist then google..

Satanism and rituals in Southafrica
Five year old seweto boy killed by ritualists

You can start with that for now, there are more.

freshest4live:

Just one click would give you your proof, but then it would become another war here, this isn't my intention, but Africans shouldn't be accusing other Africans of this, so drop it while you can.
But if you must insist then google..

Satanism and rituals in Southafrica
Five year old seweto boy killed by ritualists

You can start with that for now, there are more.

bolded: was that an ultimatum? I hope not


I'll stop,I don't wanna get a six months ban for the things i'll post here,so guess what...your ultimatun worked

Cheers

Jayceon:
bolded: was that an ultimatum? I hope not


I'll stop,I don't wanna get a six months ban for the things i'll post here,so guess what...your ultimatun worked

Cheers

Same here, l can post things too, and the thread becomes bloody, and we both get banned, so it's not worth it, just don't throw stones from a glass house with such a damaging topic common in at least 80% of Africa and even beyond.

freshest4live:

Same here, l can post things too, and the thread becomes bloody, and we both get banned, so it's not worth it, just don't throw stones from a glass house with such a damaging topic common in at least 80% of Africa and even beyond.

HAHA post what you want to post and stop sending me threats


And before you accuse me of throwing stones,did you even check who started this bulls***?

Nowenuse:


Yoruba developed Ajami? Never heard of that. Are there scrolls and precolonial documents in this yoruba ajami script to prove this?
Cos, Hausa ajami was so popular among the hausa masses that it entered our naira notes and national army logo.

I'd like to know about this Yoruba odu ifa please.

I have heard about Nsibidi writing and it seems like Igbos are now laying claim to it. I heard it was developed by the Ekoi people. Unfortunately it was never a very developed form of writing, neither was it scriptinzed. ...please, do you know if the Ekoi masses or elders of today themselves decode it?

Yes, they did just like the many ethnic groups in Africa like Songhai, Oromo, and Somali all of whom modified the Arabic script and adapted it to their language. Ajami in Yoruba is known as Anjami or Anjemi. More specifically, it was Oyo empire that developed the use of Anjami.

Even though conversion was slow, Yorubas have had contact with Islam for a very long term, perhaps since the time of the Malian empire. The religion of Islam in Yoruba is translated as Esin Male meaning the Malian religion. Oyo had link to the trans Saharan trade as well as Trans Atlantic trade. Ethnic groups throughout West Africa traded with Oyo and Islamic scholars beyond the boundaries of Nigeria were present in Oyo. Even though many ignorant or tribalist folks like to wrongly assume that the word "Yoruba" comes from Hausa, its true etymology goes back to the Songhais who were also present in Oyo. The first mentioning of Yoruba in writing goes back to a treatise written by a Songhai scholar named Ahmed Baba in the 16th century which was addressing Oyo.

In the simplest way I can define it for you, Odu Ifa are series of codes that are interpreted by babalawos in the ifa divinition system.

Nsibidi is a form of writing; no be so? That totally blew that myth that Hausas were the only Nigerians to develop a form of writing, which is just modified Arabic and here is a 100% indigenous form of writing that you are casting as side as insignificant. As for Igbos, they historically adopted it due to proximity to the Ejagham and the Ibibios, however they can't claim something that's not entirely theirs just like the British can't claim the Latin script. I feel like you have some wrongly assumed pre-concieved notion about certain ethnic groups. You don't have to go the ignorant route by saying Nsibidi is not developed enugh or scripted.

One of the earliest evidence can be traced to the earliest Ikom monoliths which dates back to around 2,000 years ago. Sure, Nsibidi is used in decoration of objects like pottery, it also has at least historically far more practical use in Ikpe court cases in Cross River which are most definitely scripted.

Bifwoli:


This 3/4 Mlunje here shares your feelings .I would hate to see him lose bcuz NASA dudes just drive me nuts cuz they have no vision .Kenya is more important than some dudes who feel "its our turn" yet have no solid plans or record (full disclosure i also do have Kikuyu relatives hence the other 1/4)

For real if the unthinkable happens then we'll deserve all the terrible consequences! Like I said I don't agree with all UK's moves but he's put us on the path to permanent prosperity. If we lose the momentum due to unwise political choices that chance may never happen again. Do you know between 2013 and now our GDP has almost doubled ?

Nowenuse:


You did not argue about hausa foot soldiers, but you are playing down their relevance, forgetting that Hausa was the language of the caliphate and spoken by most fulanis who were already becoming heavily hausanized.

It is very pointless adressing Hausanized fulanis as fulanis., cos the former are almost no different from Hausas themselves. So i don't see anything wrong in calling some of the jihadic wars hausa-fulani wars, just as those embarked on by the Nupes can be very much called Nupe-hausa-fulani jihad wars.

Lol, I was downplaying Hausa foot soldiers when I didn't even talk about them. If you are going to talk about Hausa foot soldiers, then you must also talk about other groups like Borgus and etc. In fact, the Borgus had a more important role than Hausas in the fall of Ilorin to Fulanis. Anyways, I am not downplaying anything as I'm simply not interested.

Answer this question for me. Were Dan Fodio, Mallam Dendo, and Alimi Hausas? Again, the Hausanization during the earlier Jihad years of the caliphate was not as strong as the latter years following and leading to colonization.

Jayceon:
LOL zoogerians convincing and assuring themselves that they are somehow sophisticated human beings.The same uncivilized savages that chop off human heads and mine human skull in the quest of becoming millionaires ...PATHETIC *spits*

Lol.

Another victim of slavery.

Must Hurt, being enslaved in your own Motherland.

I feel your Pain jayceon. Believe me i do.

Tzardom:
"Nigeria could be the fast growing economy over the period to 2050"

"Nigeria could push UK and France out of top 10 Economies''


LOL!

Another demented Fool..

Estimates boy, Estimates..

Or is your brain too shallow to process that..

kikuyu1:


For real if the unthinkable happens then we'll deserve all the terrible consequences! Like I said I don't agree with all UK's moves but he's put us on the path to permanent prosperity. If we lose the momentum due to unwise political choices that chance may never happen again. Do you know between 2013 and now our GDP has almost doubled ?

GDP means nothing if the situation on ground remains constant. Jubilee took power when Kenya was set for a leap - discovery of oil and it's speculation, one of the best constitutions on the continent and devolution, a plethora of mega projects set to begin etc. The GDP was bound to double. It could triple were it not for the looting of the Jubilee government and that would have brought the REAL change. As it stands, the doubling hasn't changed living standards much considering the price of almost everything basic has also doubled within the same period.

Anyway, I'm sorry but you sound radical. I am NASA but I hold no extreme views towards Jubilee and I'll still love my country and be patriotic if Jubilee wins. Holding views like you'll do this and that if the party you don't support wins (which you find impossible) is one of the reasons we erupted into turmoil in 2007. Change your mentality brother.

freshest4live:

In my opinion, criminals are criminals no matter what country they come from. The police should address those cases according to south african law not the locals. The way the police treat your criminals, they should do same with the money miss road Nigerians who sell drugs in SA.
Here in Nigeria, we talk tough, we call a spade a spade and call criminals criminals, no matter where they come from. Do not think that we would support criminals, if you treat them by your law the way you treat your criminals and drug pushers. They only cry xenophobia when it seems like xenophobia.
For example there are some Nigerians who are being killed in Singapore for drug crime by Singaporean law, by the Government in Singapore. You would blame those Nigerians who know the law but risk it, no one has right to cry xenophobia in that instance.

First of all, I've acknowledged before that we have criminals here and those of neighboring countries. Police sometimes get to the scene too late when people's rage has already taken over and this happens everywhere even worse in your country from what I read daily. Now these criminals get fuckd by the crowd whether they are citizens or foreigners but obviously the usual loud mouths will scream xenophobia when caught up in their own shyt. Show me where a Zimbabwean community has cried xenophobia when their criminal gets jungle justice? They know their boys are a nuisance in the country and will get what they deserve.

I'm not a fan of jungle justice but I understand where the people are coming from. On a daily basis your fuckn criminals are arrested and not beaten up by a crowd so don't make it seem like that's frequent occurance.

Mbeki really fuckd us in the ass with his "Africa must Unite" bullshyt. How do you Unite with people who can't even be United in one country ? And worse open your doors wide open for them ? Damn!

Nowenuse:


Keep deceiving your xenophobic self.

Why wouldn't your government put so much efforts on Hiv when you guys Bleep like animals and transmit it everywhere? Nigeria dealt with Ebola in one swoop even when it was ravaging other Neighbouring countries.

Quote me when you stop having the highest HIV population in the world. It is not by writing wishful memos.

Lol@ keep deceiving yourself , the typical Nigerian comeback .


The SA government spends a lot of money on everything concerning it's people, the biggest budgets being education and health and the biggest in Africa....I guess that's why we are in the top 4 in literacy rankings and you are no where near that .


Your kids have Aids and your lazy criminal government does nothing about it. You are dying of polio and meningitis daily in huge numbers and you are worried about South Africans with a manageable hiv that will live longer than your people in the north ? Lmfao, what a joke.

NairobiWalker:


GDP means nothing if the situation on ground remains constant. Jubilee took power when Kenya was set for a leap - discovery of oil and it's speculation, one of the best constitutions on the continent and devolution, a plethora of mega projects set to begin etc. The GDP was bound to double. It could triple were it not for the looting of the Jubilee government and that would have brought the REAL change. As it stands, the doubling hasn't changed living standards much considering the price of almost everything basic has also doubled within the same period.

Anyway, I'm sorry but you sound radical. I am NASA but I hold no extreme views towards Jubilee and I'll still love my country and be patriotic if Jubilee wins. Holding views like you'll do this and that if the party you don't support wins (which you find impossible) is one of the reasons we erupted into turmoil in 2007. Change your mentality brother.

There are a number of assertions in the first paragraph that really need confirmation.

Nowenuse:


And what difference does it make when the Hiv free delivered child grows up and gets raped and infected with HIv in that rape-driven country of yours? A country where even Lesbians and Homosexuals are raped?

Rape and uncontrolled bleeping are 2 things that will keep on leaving SA as the Hiv capital of the world.

The joke is that Nigeria has no data at all. No one knows how many rape victims you have , no one knows for sure how many you are , no one knows how many criminals you have , no one knows how many kids are born daily, no one knows how many people are without electricity and tap water etc Nigerian statistics are picked out of Buhari's sick asshole .


Show me a credible source claiming SA is the rape capital of the world and not some white man's blog . Can you,? Nope no one can because any person with half a brain knows that those blogs started appearing when SA was about to host the 2010 world cup and the Brits and Germans were pissed and started the smear campaign. Amazingly people came and we hosted one of the best world cups in history, African style . The same people who called SA names are here yearly enjoying themselves but will never flock to the peaceful zoo, I wonder why? LMFAO.

Nowenuse:


What basic amenities? The majority of which are exclusive to the white areas? Please, tell us something else.

LMFAO, sit down boy let me educate you as you clearly need it. First there are no white areas in SA unless you're talking about Orania . If you know any please inform me, this is not Nigeria where Lebanese and Indians live alone.


2.Over 90% of our population has 24hr uninterrupted electricity. Something you can only dream of. And we are almost done with our new power plant , meaning every home even in the most remote village will have power.


3. More than 84.5% of our population have access to clean tap water and that was in 2016 , I'm sure the number has risen. Not that borehole shyt you guys depend on.

4. Less than 5% of our population live in slums , 2016 again . People who are less fortunate are given free houses not made a laughing stock like you do in Nigeria.

5.Many of our communities have tarred roads , including townships and villages something you're struggling with even in inner cities .

6. Free quality education from primary to grade 12.

7. Every community has a functional hospital or clinic, not just lagos and Abuja . The biggest hospital in the world is found in a Township called Soweto serving the whole southern african region.

8.- Even a child whose parents are not employed or earn minimum wage(the highest in the continent by the way) qualifies for a monthly child grant until the age of 18. There is free lunch in every public school. We don't have begging children here or child maids like you.

-Every old person over the age of 60 years qualifies for a social grant.
- every disabled person qualifies for a social grant, we don't oppress or laugh at them . We take care of their basic needs and we have homes for them , orphans and old people.

I could go on the whole day , talking about the benefits of being a SA citizen but let me give you a chance to tell us what your taxes do in Nigeria? Where is the oil money going ?

Nowenuse:


Yeah, why don't you and Lionessza run off and go and do what you are good at?

That's all you will ever post abut SA , criminals who looted shops who make up an insignificant number of our population because the positive things about SA hurt you to the core, they give you sleepless nights don't they? Lol. You people are so bitter it's beyond comprehension. But I would too if I made the worst list on almost everything and rarely the best list in the continent . I hope one day you will get the courage to stand up to your leaders and stop the bitching.

freshest4live:
Lionessza here's another one from England, this happens regularly from countries like England, Russia, U.S, Canada, much more than the drug and scam stories that only come out from Nigerians in Malaysia and other parts of Africa.
https://www.nairaland.com/3892126/queen-england-honours-young-nigerian

Like I said before , stop telling me what your people do elsewhere because that's none of my business. I only concern myself about what happens in my country and what they do here is commit all sorts of crimes from immigration to human trafficking hence they make up the highest numbers of foreign nationals in our jails. By the way , you posted the positives they do in those countries don't forget to tell us about the ones committing crimes in higher numbers. Isn't the most dangerous prisoner in the UK a Nigerian?. Kudos to those doing well, I wish more of you did that instead of what you're famous for. Peace

Shaytun:


Lol.

Another victim of slavery.

Must Hurt, being enslaved in your own Motherland.

I feel your Pain jayceon. Believe me i do.

You feel sorry for someone whose living standards are millions times better than your zoo life? Well played shít-tun,well played

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freshest4live:

Just one click would give you your proof, but then it would become another war here, this isn't my intention, but Africans shouldn't be accusing other Africans of this, so drop it while you can.
But if you must insist then google..

Satanism and rituals in Southafrica
Five year old seweto boy killed by ritualists

You can start with that for now, there are more.

Lol, funny how you would compare random and rare cases of ritual killings to something that is widespread and has become a norm in Nigeria. Please show us how many cases of ritual killings you can dig up in SA I dare you. A ritual murder in SA would make the news for weeks because it's rare and scary. In Nigeria daily there's news about this and people rarely comment because oh well ! 5 died yesterday and 13 will die tommorow. I dare you to post every link you can find concerning this shyt in SA

Lionessza:




LMFAO, sit down boy let me educate you as you clearly need it. First there are no white areas in SA unless you're talking about Orania . If you know any please inform me, this is not Nigeria where Lebanese and Indians live alone.


2.Over 90% of our population has 24hr uninterrupted electricity. Something you can only dream of. And we are almost done with our new power plant , meaning every home even in the most remote village will have power.


3. More than 84.5% of our population have access to clean tap water and that was in 2016 , I'm sure the number has risen. Not that borehole shyt you guys depend on.

4. Less than 5% of our population live in slums , 2016 again . People who are less fortunate are given free houses not made a laughing stock like you do in Nigeria.

5.Many of our communities have tarred roads , including townships and villages something you're struggling with even in inner cities .

6. Free quality education from primary to grade 12.

7. Every community has a functional hospital or clinic, not just lagos and Abuja . The biggest hospital in the world is found in a Township called Soweto serving the whole southern african region.

8.- Even a child whose parents are not employed or earn minimum wage(the highest in the continent by the way) qualifies for a monthly child grant until the age of 18. There is free lunch in every public school. We don't have begging children here or child maids like you.

-Every old person over the age of 60 years qualifies for a social grant.
- every disabled person qualifies for a social grant, we don't oppress or laugh at them . We take care of their basic needs and we have homes for them , orphans and old people.

I could go on the whole day , talking about the benefits of being a SA citizen but let me give you a chance to tell us what your taxes do in Nigeria? Where is the oil money going ?

wow this is so beautiful I almost shed a tear thank you babes

Modes should close this thread already

kikuyu1:


There are a number of assertions in the first paragraph that really need confirmation.

Name them.

I'm a Nigerian and I can courageously say that Nigeria is a shame of a country, all we do here is to loot ourselves blind, our government is a clueless one.

We are richer than any African country you can mention, but nothing to show for it.

Lionessza:



First of all, I've acknowledged before that we have criminals here and those of neighboring countries. Police sometimes get to the scene too late when people's rage has already taken over and this happens everywhere even worse in your country from what I read daily. Now these criminals get fuckd by the crowd whether they are citizens or foreigners but obviously the usual loud mouths will scream xenophobia when caught up in their own shyt. Show me where a Zimbabwean community has cried xenophobia when their criminal gets jungle justice? They know their boys are a nuisance in the country and will get what they deserve.

I'm not a fan of jungle justice but I understand where the people are coming from. On a daily basis your fuckn criminals are arrested and not beaten up by a crowd so don't make it seem like that's frequent occurance.

Mbeki really fuckd us in the ass with his "Africa must Unite" bullshyt. How do you Unite with people who can't even be United in one country ? And worse open your doors wide open for them ? Damn!

There's a difference between killing foreigners all over because of XENOPHOBIA and jungle justice because of crime, you started with xenophobia hate on all foreigners not just Nigeria in 2015, this is why your excuse about crime for jungle justice is reffered to as xenophobia.
Who wants to unite with south africa? What is Southafrica, do they feed us?,
For your information, we have had some of the highest number of panafricanist leaders even before Southafrica existed, from Nnamdi Azikiwe to Gowon, to IBB and Obasanjo. Many who had great influence in what had become AU or Ecomog and Ecowas. So if you blame mbeki, whom should l blame? Do not boast where we are.

Jayceon:
wow this is so beautiful I almost shed a tear thank you babes

Lol, the truth about the progress we are making hurts many but it warms my heart and makes me want to shed a tear myself when I look at some countries .

Lionessza:




Like I said before , stop telling me what your people do elsewhere because that's none of my business. I only concern myself about what happens in my country and what they do here is commit all sorts of crimes from immigration to human trafficking hence they make up the highest numbers of foreign nationals in our jails. By the way , you posted the positives they do in those countries don't forget to tell us about the ones committing crimes in higher numbers. Isn't the most dangerous prisoner in the UK a Nigerian?. Kudos to those doing well, I wish more of you did that instead of what you're famous for. Peace

You are wrong for every negative thing they do in those countries they do more positive,
Google.... Most intelligent family in Britain, Most educated foreigners in the U.S, note that we have more Indians most of these countries than Nigeria.
My point is that Nigeria is not more popular for the wrong reasons as you insist.
Note that SA as a nation is also well known for crime, it's like pot calling kettle black. Here is what some Americans have to say about Nigeria apart from crime.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thetoptens.com/interesting-countries-africa/&ved=0ahUKEwiAv5XvxOfUAhXEqxoKHRQUBYUQFgi6ATAA&usg=AFQjCNEOwsB3CWuYxVwlor2gzuk1-9W0Vg