sontoly2:


Southampton just joined the race, the move is hotting up, check BBC gossip. He will definitely move before transfer deadline worst case is a loan maybe if it drags till the deadline date.

wayodude:
OFFICIAL - DONE DEAL

Everton have signed Nigeria striker Henry Onyekuru from KAS Eupen for £7m and sent him on loan to Anderlecht.

Onyekuru, 20, scored 22 goals for the Belgian top-flight club last season and has been linked with Arsenal, West Ham and clubs throughout Europe.

He is viewed as a prospect for the future by manager Ronald Koeman and signs a five-year contract.

Earlier on Friday, Barcelona took up clause to buy winger Gerard Deulofeu back from Everton for £10.6m.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40418808

Napoleon55:
football

komekn:


Ultimately Systems don't win matches good quality exceptional players do.

komekn:


What's so modern about his strategy? what is so strategic? Different doesn't mean new and or modern it's just a biased person based preference.

I watched him humiliate Sakho and demote him to the U23's he was not allowed to even train with the first team. His preference Joel Matip.

Once again you are elevating coach to being infallible small gods and having more appreciation of strategy than anybody else.

Well Benteke was treated abysmally and sold to Crystal palace.

Well he who laughs last laughs best. Liverpool played Crystal palace and we're flogged 2-1 and Benteke scored 2. Of course Klopp had to shut up his mouth and eat humble pie.

Add to that that since Sakho went to Crystal palace they went on winning streak hardly losing any games.

Sakho proving he is one of the best defenders in the EPL.

edi287:

Mbappe is an eu citizen and Onyekuru isn't?

.....Although Iheanacho does not qualify for a work permit but City intend to use the exceptional talent rule to secure a work permit for him, the same rule with which Chelsea signed John Mikel Obi back in 2006.

https://football411.net/iheanacho-leaves-eagles-camp-to-sign-for-man-city/

TheGoodJoe:


Benteke can work in Sam Allardyce system but that is not the kind of system the top performing coaches in Europe play. Allardyce is yet to get to a level of doing what Klopp has done in football. So Benteke should stick to Allardyce analog system. Not carrying his kind of play for expansive possessive systems.

So next time you guys are suggesting big target man, ask yourself the system of the coach first.

Thanks men.

komekn:


You seem to be obsessed to turning mere men and football managers into infallible demi gods. Hinging everything you say not on personal inspection, experience and study but quotes of other men.

Using your methodology Lucien Favre the current manager of Nice. Who has an even better Pedigree than Klopp and is considered a modern and forward thinking top Manager. Pushing an average Nice way beyond all projections to the top level of French Football.


It is the same Lucien that picked up a totally rejected, denigrated and ignored Balotelli by Klopp. Giving him the opportunity to express himself and propelling Nice to the top of the French league 1, for the larger part of the season.


The same Balotelli has scored more goals than both of Klopps top forwards combined, Coutinho and Mane considering his Klopps modern unbeatable football strategy according to you.


Furthermore, Balotelli was restricted by Injury so missed probably near 20% of this seasons games. Balotelli has now re-confirmed himself as one of the top strikers in the World, after the rubbish he experienced at Liverpool.


Benteke left Liverpool to a lower level Crystal Palace after being denigrated and abused by Klopp. Nonetheless, he scored more goals than both of Liverpools highest goalscorers Coutinho and Mane.

So in reality Klopp shows a kick of strategic capacity, understanding and versatility because he didn't know how to fuse a top striker into his strategic modern game plan. He simply failed.

So stop the unsubstantiated and sentimental hero worshiping of managers. Be more objective and analytical, I do believe you can.

komekn:


You seem to be obsessed to turning mere men and football managers into infallible demi gods. Hinging everything you say not on personal inspection, experience and study but quotes of other men.

Using your methodology Lucien Favre the current manager of Nice. Who has an even better Pedigree than Klopp and is considered a modern and forward thinking top Manager. Pushing an average Nice way beyond all projections to the top level of French Football.


It is the same Lucien that picked up a totally rejected, denigrated and ignored Balotelli by Klopp. Giving him the opportunity to express himself and propelling Nice to the top of the French league 1, for the larger part of the season.


The same Balotelli has scored more goals than both of Klopps top forwards combined, Coutinho and Mane considering his Klopps modern unbeatable football strategy according to you.


Furthermore, Balotelli was restricted by Injury so missed probably near 20% of this seasons games. Balotelli has now re-confirmed himself as one of the top strikers in the World, after the rubbish he experienced at Liverpool.


Benteke left Liverpool to a lower level Crystal Palace after being denigrated and abused by Klopp. Nonetheless, he scored more goals than both of Liverpools highest goalscorers Coutinho and Mane.

So in reality Klopp shows a lack of strategic capacity, understanding and versatility because he didn't know how to fuse a top striker into his strategic modern game plan. He simply failed.

So stop the unsubstantiated and sentimental hero worshiping of managers. Be more objective and analytical, I do believe you can.

Oasis007:




Isaac Success is also an EU Citizen before he moved to Watford?! Iheanacho..... I guess is also an EU Citizen before he was signed by Man City?!

I really don't understand why some of you won't take time to study a Scenario before jumping on Board to defend the indefensible out of Favoritism.

Have you heard of Exceptional Talent Clause to get Work Permit in UK?! Kindly do some Homework on it pls. It won't hurt you.

Humility017:

the dude should go to Leicester...
I really fancy...Shakespeare desire to play him as SS

komekn:


It's not as straightforward as that, they are not paying a lot of money for him. He is a player they will buy and if he doesn't meet the requirements they can still sell for various little profit.

It's business not just football.

Francisco Junior turned down offers from Manchester city, etc and came to Everton at age 19, having played for Portugal U21, was on near £10k a week from Benfica fc. He played a couple of games for Everton. He was an EU citizen and did not require a work permit.

Today after all the hype he is playing for lowly Norwegian side in an obscure league, going nowhere fast.

Onyekuru is just on a very long road that may not lead to the premiership. There are many mountains to climb.

Wish him well but these are the harsh realities.l

sontoly2:


Chairman, I tire for your argument oo, OK let me agree with you say henry is not an exceptional player, cos he has not proven himself, does it mean that success is an exceptional player for him to get the work permit?.

Try google that work permit stuff and see how it works, success case may have been cos of relationship BTW owner of the same club, remember iheanacho was player for the U21 side of city for almost a year, check those factors please.

henry is not too fantastic before we start expecting miracle from him, let the guy be given room to express himself before we crucify am.

Anderlecht is even a bigger club than Everton if he can prove himself there, then it shldnt be a hard job in Everton.

Oasis007:




Isaac Success is also an EU Citizen before he moved to Watford?! Iheanacho..... I guess is also an EU Citizen before he was signed by Man City?!

I really don't understand why some of you won't take time to study a Scenario before jumping on Board to defend the indefensible out of Favoritism.

Have you heard of Exceptional Talent Clause to get Work Permit in UK?! Kindly do some Homework on it pls. It won't hurt you.

TheGoodJoe:


Benteke can work in Sam Allardyce system but that is not the kind of system the top performing coaches in Europe play. Allardyce is yet to get to a level of doing what Klopp has done in football. So Benteke should stick to Allardyce analog system. Not carrying his kind of play for expansive possessive systems.

So next time you guys are suggesting big target man, ask yourself the system of the coach first.

Thanks men.

edi287:

So why did he bring up the Mbappe comparison and not Iheanacho or Mikel?? Did Onyekuru play in any youth competition like Iheanacho and Mikel?? Is the Jupiler league a top 5 league in europe like the La liga?? Do you honestly think it makes sense to compare a EU citizen case like Mbappe to that of Onyekuru? Wasn't Issac Success Watford's most expensive player??
You yourself need to stop jumping into conclusion

Oasis007:




Am I? LOL!

See..... no one is hating on anyone or any Player, coz I believe that's where you are definitely heading to. Did you even know the Reason for the Comparison? I doubt it!

Football is known as a Factor that's uniting us in this Country, however if the Factor is gradually failing to unite us, then there is really a big Problem.

We should be more friendly with our Approaches and counter-arguments on this Thread, as well as do away with "He hates him" Nonsense.

What "we" that some of you are termed as "Haters" are saying is; we should stop over-hyping our Stars because they ain't there yet. And that's the Reason I brought in Mbappe who is 18yrs old and already a world recognized Talent.

We should give our Stars chance to prove their respective Talents..... they have huge Potentials, but fulfilling the Potentials and becoming great Players from Africa Soil is what we are asking for!

You can't become a great Player by siting in the Bench, playing in a low League or plying your Trade in the Asian Continent.

edi287:

Clearly there's a misunderstanding. I replied because I thought you were implying Onyekuru didn't get a work permit because he was african or whatever. My apologies.

sontoly2:


Why una like hating like this?, from your tone its obvious you don't like the move, and which one be Fransisco junior does it have a relationship with henry?, you have already wished the guy doom before he even kicked the ball.

No matter wetin person do people must talk, I remember when nacho went to city they said he won't perform that he shld go for a small club, but the guy proved dem wrong and performed exceptionally well until pep decided not to use him, now he is going for a small club people still dey complain.

Thank God henry did not sign for arsenal cos people for talk tire, let's give the guy a chance abeg.
If u doubt his ability go and watch his highlights on YouTube, u will understand why he is rated high.

BascoVanVeli:


Benteke was bought by your main man Rodgers o and i can bet Klopp felt bad when he hit a brace in front of the kopp.

sontoly2:


Forget coach promises, Leicester like long balls a lot vos most of their players are pacey, but nacho likes to play short pass and doesn't have much speed, I think Leicester will be a very bad choice for him.

sontoly2:


Why una like hating like this?, from your tone its obvious you don't like the move, and which one be Fransisco junior does it have a relationship with henry?, you have already wished the guy doom before he even kicked the ball.

No matter wetin person do people must talk, I remember when nacho went to city they said he won't perform that he shld go for a small club, but the guy proved dem wrong and performed exceptionally well until pep decided not to use him, now he is going for a small club people still dey complain.

Thank God henry did not sign for arsenal cos people for talk tire, let's give the guy a chance abeg.
If u doubt his ability go and watch his highlights on YouTube, u will understand why he is rated high.

Oasis007:




So it's crime to respond to a Quote?! Also it's a Crime to enlighten a Dude who actually is not well informed?!

You ain't tired of reading flimsy Excuses flowing up and down here as regard the Reason Onyekuru couldn't secure the Work Permit, but you are tired of my Response?!

If a Guy quoted me to refute my Assertion on a Particular Issue, but because someone like you would be tired and frustrated, hence I should just fold Arms and ignore?!

On Success Case, he got the Work Permit by the Virtue of his Transfer Fee, Wage and moving from a Top League to another Top League.

However, it wasn't the same with Iheanacho.
He was issued the Work Permit solely based on Exceptional Talent Rule same as John Obi Mikel when he joined Chelsea.

If you ain't sure, I will like to redirect you to your Suggestion for me - Google is waiting!

SMH!

komekn:


It's not about liking the move cause in reality he has not moved to Everton they have just bought him.

What I am saying have cautious expectation consider Everton current history and internal politics. The word HATE has nothing what so ever to with thus discussion.

Consider Oumar Niasse bought for £13.5 million by Martinez. Just after 2 or 3 games and the internal politics he was not given a squad number. Then add insult to injury he was demoted to U23. He then leaves on loan to Hull and has a reasonably good impact in relegation club.

What I am saying better be in a club that really infact desperately need you to play. Than a club that could just add you to thier asset base for possible future reference.

Everton is a club I know well and there are other things I could say. Reference to Francisco is indicative of what could happen, I am sure you can understand that uncomplicated fact.

komekn:


In principle you are correct but there was actually more to Isaac move than meets the eye. Consider the family proprietary ownership of Watford, Udinese and Granada at that time prior and afterwards. Consider the issues of asset transfer and mix it with little Italian mafia and you have the perfect soup.

chrisooblog:
gabriel jesus is already an established brazilian international who has performed creditably at club level. this is the first break out season for onyekuru and he only just got invited to the national team

komekn:


In principle you are correct but there was actually more to Isaac move than meets the eye. Consider the family proprietary ownership of Watford, Udinese and Granada at that time prior and afterwards. Consider the issues of asset transfer and mix it with little Italian mafia and you have the perfect soup.

TheGoodJoe:


Rodgers missed it. I was against it from the start even though I am not a Liverpool fan. Remember, Liverpool lost form and a wrong forward choice was one of the reasons. Speed, Skill and Mobility is the key word. If your forward can not tick these, it is hard to fit in the modern game.

chrisooblog:
the players you listed below are no doubt exceptional. reminds me of the great rashidi yekini. that said what some commentators might have been trying to express is the fact that most of these target men might struggle based on the formation some coaches might deploy. ibra as great as he is/was couldn't quite cut it at pep's barcelona team. same for benteke who could not cope with klopp's intense movement centric tactics at liverpool. with due respect to costa and lukaku top clubs haven't exactly been falling over themselves to sign them. the big point man in all fairness is my ideal kind of striker cos in tight games where tikitaka might be failing you the big striker could manufacture a miracle.
the reason why i think people might not prefer the big striker option is that once service is cut of the guy might become a lame duck. talking specifically about the super eagles i also share the opinion that based on the players we have now and the best tactic that suits us (4-2-3-1)
we need a point man who can bring other players into action. iheanacho yes for now is our most lethal finisher but i feel he will be at his most dangerous in the AM/SS role . so who will play the point man role for us? ighalo beside the fact that his goal scoring record of recent has been poor his hold up play is not there. osimhen has showed promise let's see how he does at the beginning of the bundesliga season. anichebe i like has good hold up play will be an asset to his fellow striker but i have questions about his fitness (injury problems), goal convertion rate and his movement let's be honest victor is not the quickest or sharpest. ideye i like he ticks all the boxes for me except the goal scoring aspect but he could be a vital tool in our tactical setup

komekn:


In principle you are correct but there was actually more to Isaac move than meets the eye. Consider the family proprietary ownership of Watford, Udinese and Granada at that time prior and afterwards. Consider the issues of asset transfer and mix it with little Italian mafia and you have the perfect soup.

Loogan:


First of all ibrahimovic, Kane, balloteli are skillfully CF with awesome technique and who are very unpredictable, they are tall and physical but much more than target men so they don't belong in that list.
You saying benteke, lukaku and drogba(target men) do not need a lot of support and can on their own dismantle any team is a big lie, everyone knows they mostly rely on a creative player to give them the assists.

Then these guys are in epl a league where almost all the defenders are physical and rugged ready to match them physically in in all battles, when they get physically outmuscled they run out of ideas and are not just dynamic enough to make a difference.(the lukaku you put is a perfect example only 2 goals and some poor games against Chelsea why because the defenders are able to match him physically) but evertime Chelsea faces a striker like aguero, not one of the strongest he has always Been able to hurt Chelsea more.

Then I didn't say target men lack creativity, vision, skill some do but you of all people should know they are more than just target men and can't be considered alone as "target men"