sheguru:





No, Fake Visas are soo rampant and the agents are quoting 450k- 600k per person for the visa. The main thing is how sure are my that it will be the REAL thing!! You will need to go to their embassy personally to make enquiries and then apply, that's when you can be SURE...
For now, am checking out other options.

MRBrownJ:


a Brazilian passport grants visa free access to most European countries and US , so i would understand why many wish their kids (and subsequently them) to have such passport

ugsams:


Can you give an idea on the cost of real estates there? I mean the price range of renting an average apartment there, where to get cheap rents? and other cost of living.

MRBrownJ:


this is Brasil we are talking about here, not some small tiny land... decide which city you wanna move to (different city/neighborhood, different prices), do your own homework via Google etc, and you will get ALL the info you require.

ugsams:
I'll appreciate if you can give a first hand information on any of these big cities, Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paulo and most preferably Salvador. I know i can look up prices of rent and other things on the internet but I just needed a first hand experience while I continue on my research. Thanks and I'll be grateful to learn from your experience.

MRBrownJ:


how can i give anyone 1st hand info, when i have no idea who you are (emotionally/physically/financially) as a person?! thats stoopid as we certainly wont live the same lives. dont ever think you can/should compare your life with that of others. i could tell you that you can live on 5$ OR 100$ a day here, and i wouldnt be wrong. never take another man's struggle/success as your own, and instead prepare yourself PROPERLY before deciding to go anywhere... but here is a simple clue: if you aint got money to pay for 6months rent/feed/outing, before coming here, then i suggest you dont come to Brasil.

remember, you can live in Rio/São Paulo OR you can live in Salvador (2 different type of cities entirely); you can live in a favela OR a posh neighborhood; you can live close to the main city spots OR you can live hrs from there; you can be here legally OR illegally; you can easily get a job OR you can NEVER get a job; you can easily speak Portuguese and integrate, make friends in Brasil OR you are too dumb to learn a foreign language; you can eat rice and feijão everyday OR you can do buffets/restaurants every days; you can get a car/moto OR you can waste time in public transport; you can go straight home after work OR you can hang out and enjoy evenings during the week; you can have a miserable life doing absolutely nothing but save every centavos you get OR you can have expensive hobbies. the choice is all yours, live YOUR life!

it all depends on who you are as a person, how/why you wanna come to Brasil, what you intend to do here, how you intend to achieve that etc. too many foolish Nigerians are tricked into doing some crime BS because they travel to a place hoping they will achieve the same success as others, while the failures of ignorant/unprepared brothas here are PLENTY!

ugsams:



About why I'm asking all these, I learnt that Brazil doesn't offer only birthright citizenship, they also give residence permit to the parents of their Brazilian child if one decides to stay back. The idea makes much sense to me being that i live in a country where i can never be a permanent resident no matter what i do and how long i stay here. The nature of my work is flexible and by God's grace if my anticipated promotion comes as planned this year, I will only have to work 6 months a year and have 6 months of field break.

My plan is that if i can get my woman to give birth to our child in Brazil sometime in the future, we settle there for a while as I travel to work in my present country of residence and return back to Brazil as my second home we will get a permanent residence there and maybe citizenship. With this idea I would have secured a good status in South America while i await for the oil price to increase so i can pitch my tent there.

Just an idea I'm exploring not as if I want to move in there illegally.

MRBrownJ:
take the following as the important questions you should have answered before you expect anyone to give you any information about life in Brasil:
- who you are as a person,
- how/why you wanna come to Brasil,
- what you intend to do here,
- how you intend to achieve that
- you can live in Rio/São Paulo OR you can live in Salvador (2 different type of cities entirely);
- you can live in a favela OR a posh neighborhood;
- you can live close to the main city spots OR you can live hrs from there;
- you can be here legally OR illegally;
- you can easily get a job OR you can NEVER get a job;
- you can easily speak Portuguese and integrate, make friends in Brasil OR you are too dumb to learn a foreign language;
- you can eat rice and feijão everyday OR you can do buffets/restaurants every days;
- you can get a car/moto OR you can waste time in public transport;
- you can go straight home after work OR you can hang out and enjoy evenings during the week;
- you can have a miserable life doing absolutely nothing but save every centavos you get OR you can have expensive hobbies.

you answer will give me an idea of what 1st hand life you expect me to tell you about

ugsams:

My last post already answered the following questions

"who you are as a person,
- how/why you wanna come to Brasil,
- what you intend to do here,
- how you intend to achieve that
- you can be here legally OR illegally; "
- you can easily get a job OR you can NEVER get a job"
- you can go straight home after work OR you can hang out and enjoy evenings during the week; "

I was hoping that a first hand information will guide me on answering the remaining questions because I have no idea on the cost of living in Favela, posh neighbourhood, main city spots or far from it in Brazil. I don't know the advantages or disadvantages of life in Rio/Sao Paulo when compared to Salvador but I will prefer Salvador based on the general knowledge I have of the place. I also know nothing about social life and what it costs. Yes, i can eat rice often and i don't know what a feijão tastes like.
Comparing the cost/plan of renting/buying a car/moto to the means and cost of public transportation will guide me on which to pay more attention on.

Cost will be the major factor in most of my decision as my initial plan is to work elsewhere and live in Brazil.
I know you don't want to answer my questions, hence, you're being cocky with your replies. You don't owe me any answer. However, I'll leave my questions here and will continue to respond to any of your further questions whether rhetoric or sarcastic in nature.

I hope that someday someone who is willing to share from his experience will answer the questions to my benefit and that of many others. Cheers

MRBrownJ:


how did your last post answer any of the above questions? i still dont know who you are as a person, your financial abilities/budget, what your means of staying in Brasil will be; nor HOW you want to come here; even less what exactly you want to physically do here (apart from aiming for a citizenship); or the type of lifestyle you seek to have here... i dont have a crystal ball.



and if you'd done your homework, instead of simply focussing on the "citizenship", then you would have had an idea, as such infos are freely available on the internet. you wanna tell me you are planning on bringing your wife/family and having a child in Brasil, yet have absolutely no clue what the cost of living is over here?



again, i have no idea WHO you are and/or what you seek when coming here (apart from a citizenship). if you had at least done some research, you would have known that A) Rio and SP are the 2 most expensive cities in South America to live in, and B) Rio and SP are two different cities entirely... SP is the business hub, a city that never sleeps, intense, saturated, no beach anywhere near the city, EXPENSIVE, while Rio is the chic city, tourist hub with its 100s of beaches, havaiana state of mind, more laid back, and MORE EXPENSIVE.... yet here you are expecting me to give you an exposé on ALL the different possibilities there are to live in Brasil (since i dont bloody know what you seek).



there is a huge difference between someone willing to share their experience compared to you asking silly questions... here you are asking for the cost of real estate in Brasil, not knowing that such question has 100s of answers, and therefore, instead of expecting me to do your job, you probably should have an idea (beforehand) on where you wanna go, your aim here, what lifestyle you seek etc

finally, you said you would prefer living in Salvador, while i would never dream of living there, even if they paid me. but thats just me, and many are happy living in Salvador, but sadly it just aint my type of city (nor is SP)... but i dont want you to base your choices on what i regard as the best place to live in Brasil because we dont have the same lives/desires/aim/requirements, and therefore you need to discover it all, and THEN make up your own mind. whats the point of coming across the world for such a great adventure, and simply following/copying what others are doing? make your own LIFE path!!!!

anywhere in Brasil, you can rent a place from €50 to +€5K monthly, depending on where/how close/how nice/how big/how safe/how funky etc

ugsams:


Thank you for your contribution and always trying to demean me in your replies.

Shallypop:
ok. Thank u. Is their healthcare better than Nigeria?

MrBrownJay1:


Most definitely... Any emergency, you can just walk in any public hospital and you will be treated (no questions asked)
For pre natal care, best go to a private hospital.

Stay away from Rio as the state is going through one of its worst corruption scandal to date and the city of Rio is broke and can't pay it's workers, (April salary was just finally paid last week) thus many hospitals are on strike or closed due to lack of workers/meds.

Shallypop:
Thank u so much 4 dis info. I was considering Rio. Is there any other thing I need to know. I don't want to take wrong step considering my condition.

MrBrownJay1:


You need to research fully where you will stay...Rio and São Paulo are the most expensive city to live in South America, and it would be easier to stay in a smaller city, if coming just for the birth. If you decide to stay in Rio, you should search for place to stay in either Zona sul or Barra.

Lastly, wherever you stay in Rio, you are never too far from a favela, and although some are ok to live in, others ain't, so make sure to confirm that t he area where you are staying in isn't a favela.

although it is a fantastic city, sadly there is a recession here too, as many public workers haven't received their salaries, so crime is on the rise

givebirthbrazil:
Hi all,

I am new to this forum, but I saw that people were asking about giving birth in Brazil, and I thought I would post my thoughts. I know everyone thinks of Brazil and they automatically think of Rio and Sao Paulo, because these are the most famous cities in the country. However, if you want to travel to Brazil to give birth, I would personally recommend Florianópolis. It is the safest city in the country, it is a capital city in the south of the country with excellent hospitals and healthcare - even the public hospital is excellent (although it doesn't give pain relief for natural births). There is also a home birth option too which is cheaper than going to a private hospital...

givebirthbrazil:
Hi all,

I am new to this forum, but I saw that people were asking about giving birth in Brazil, and I thought I would post my thoughts. I know everyone thinks of Brazil and they automatically think of Rio and Sao Paulo, because these are the most famous cities in the country. However, if you want to travel to Brazil to give birth, I would personally recommend Florianópolis. It is the safest city in the country, it is a capital city in the south of the country with excellent hospitals and healthcare - even the public hospital is excellent (although it doesn't give pain relief for natural births). There is also a home birth option too which is cheaper than going to a private hospital...

papiloski:
I'm new on this thread but I currently live in Sao Paulo and I must confess that it's the most expensive city I've lived in all my life. If you're coming for the birth and don't have family or someone to live with here it's difficult. I'll advise you go to florianapolis as it's cheaper and healthcare is better over there.

Omodadi2:
Hello house, who has gone on this birth trip successfully please?

papiloski:
I'm new on this thread but I currently live in Sao Paulo and I must confess that it's the most expensive city I've lived in all my life. If you're coming for the birth and don't have family or someone to live with here it's difficult. I'll advise you go to florianapolis as it's cheaper and healthcare is better over there.

Adjo10:
Hello guys. Are you still interested in giving birth in Brazil? Well i have done it and i can tell you that it is the best decision i have ever taken. It is time we start thinking a little bit unconventional. If i were to do it again, i will choose it over US or Canada 100%. Let me know your questions and i will try and answer as best as i can.