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Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Trottle: 12:06pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
realjoker: If it is a Yoruba town 100%, how come it had the name "Jebba". Do you mind explaining its etymology? 1 Like |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Nobody: 12:07pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
mykl01: The person that drew it was actually high on gegemu, how can he classify Kogi, benue and Kwara as north central. If we are to go by that map, we should be having South central then and not North central. Just go through the map and see for yourself. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by luluman: 12:07pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
aolawale025:Why don't you ask the okuns before talking, they renounce Yoruba membership since & prefer being call okun.Why do they want to be with us now? mtcheeeeeeew! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Trottle: 12:07pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
realjoker: If it is a Yoruba town 100%, how come it had the name "Jebba". Do you mind explaining its etymology? |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Fearlez: 12:08pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Zoolezoo:There was a mix up with some group saying they wanted another state from the east and some business mogul felt they would lose thier business to political uncertainty.( Remember Onitsha main market is amongst the biggest in West Africa). Others in the East felt igbos will have genuine tentacles into the Niger Delta region with that creation of Anioma. Know that Anioma state is one the oldest states agitated but never created preceding even Midwest state. So there was no lie anywhere. So it's a matter of economic expediency . |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Fearlez: 12:09pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Viergeachar: They haven't really given up, agitation died during GEJ's regime. And the present governor of Delta state coming from that region thaws the yearnings for now |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Fearlez: 12:10pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Markfemi2:I have never read of any agitation except this. Anioma state is the oldest requested state in Nigeria, dating back before the creation of Midwest state. |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Trottle: 12:11pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Zoolezoo: I agree with your assertion. But the question is why are Yoruba sub-groups always added to the Yoruba nation, but that of the Nupes is being deliberately relegated, from the colonial daysdays to this present day? |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by realjoker(m): 12:11pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
AbakalikiPress:Lol... Don't even know what to say to you. Since your shallow brain has jumped in to conclusion of where I am from. |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Nobody: 12:12pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
TerrorSquad: Back2Sender! Thunder will fire your entire generation. Useless hegoat.... 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by realjoker(m): 12:14pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Trottle:Lol.. Seems like you have soften your stance now. Jebba is an ancient Yoruba town. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Trottle: 12:15pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Markfemi2: Please don't cofuse us. I was referring to the Yoruba-Kanuri coalition, but you are stating another thing entirely. Please address my questions regarding your assertion of the "coalition" between the Yorubas and the Kaburis agianst the Fulanis. Please visit that post again and re-read the questions and your assertion. Thanks. |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Trottle: 12:18pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Double post |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Trottle: 12:18pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
realjoker: My stance remain the same, but you should understand the perspective that I'm coming from. Jebba is not a Yoruba town historically. If it is, please explain the etymology of the name "Jebba". Thanks. |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by realjoker(m): 12:19pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Trottle:Lol. Forward all the books to me. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Trottle: 12:20pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
realjoker: I would, you too forward yours. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by mrhowoto: 12:22pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
The man in this pic is truly a legend. 2 Likes
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Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Zoolezoo(m): 12:29pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Trottle: Who is separating them? look at the Bassa Nges for example, their territory is not contiguous with the rest of nupeland. the Kakandas too are quite far off from kin Nupe and the only access they have is a river link to Baro from where there they actually migrated downstream, nothing more. All the other groups are known to outsiders as Nupe only. Only Nupe people actually even know that they usually separate themselves. Certainly not the fault of the outsiders. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Markfemi2: 12:30pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Trottle: Pls tell us the meaning of Ede, yagba, Omu Aran, ekiti 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Markfemi2: 12:31pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Trottle: Well your stance doesn't change tbt fact jebba has an oba lol 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Viergeachar: 12:32pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Fearlez: The truth is that there has never been any agitation by SS 'Igbos' for Anioma state to be added to the SE. That's because they (most of them) are not Igbos. It has always been the SE Igbo agenda. The other Delta ethnic groups will gladly have the SS Igbos out of their way anytime anyday. Tells you Delta Igbos themselves dont want to belong to the SE. Same with other SS 'Igbos' 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by AworiLagosian: 12:34pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Trottle: No no no, the Obaship institution in Jebba does not have anything to do with Lugard. The first Oba Debola Adebara ruled in the mid 1800's whereas Lugard only got to Nigeria in 1912. So you see the delinkage. 10 Likes |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Trottle: 12:43pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Markfemi2: You are bereft of any point please retire from this discourse. |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by realjoker(m): 12:46pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Trottle:Like i earlier stated 1, Jebba is 100% Yoruba ancient city 2, its ownership is not under contention, rather jebba North is under contention, which is now dominated by Nupes on the northern side of River Niger ceded to Niger state after IBB regime border readjustment policy that based Kwara state and Niger state borderline on river Niger. 3, The two states government are working towards reaching amicable compromise on Jebba north ownership, part of the resolution is Kwara state being recognized as hydro electric power state. Note: Jebba hydroelectric dam is in Jebba North ceded to Niger state. 4, Nupes people and people of jebba and Yorubas in general has a cordial relationship predating colonial era and never fought any major war with each other. Till date Nupe and Yoruba still sees each others as brothers forget about the dirty politics currently going on in Nigeria. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Markfemi2: 12:47pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Trottle: Show us evidence nupe founded Jebba - no shoe Show us evidence of old nupe kings you no show Pls you just wasted your energy 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by realjoker(m): 12:49pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Guseh:They are called north central because they are part and parcel of the defunct northern protectorate, 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Markfemi2: 12:49pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
AworiLagosian: I said this throttle has been spitting super story up and down 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Trottle: 12:49pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
AworiLagosian: "Other machinations involved" (Britain, UAC, etc) these ones were present and have been trading and exploring far earlier than that. Gowever, observe the discourse from this angle. Jebba has been existing pre 1864 right? The question therefore is that; was there no form of rulership? |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Fearlez: 12:52pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Viergeachar:And yet , they (Delta Igbos) proposed Anioma state with Onitsha in the East as the headquarters!! Viergeachar:Aniocha North, Oshimili South, Ndokwa, IKa, Agbor, Ibuso (Igbo Di n'uzo) Aniocha South, Oshimili North, Asaba (Ahaba) Obulukwu, Iselleuku, Ogwashiukwu, Onicha-Olona , Onicha-Ukwu, Onicha-Ugbo, etc. Majority aren't igbos and all their towns and villages are Igbo by name and they are igbo-speaking. Oh, boy the argument is old but Anioma doesn't belong to any other tribe in Nigeria's archives or gazette other than Igbo. Viergeachar:you gave yourself away as an urhobo here. Abeg, which other ethnic groups in delta are you referring to? You're trying to deceive people as if the other tribes in delta are so united and speak with one voice! Do itsekiris want you? Do ijaw want you? Delta igbos have been the bridge bridging the tribal madness in delta state hence itsekiri supported the capital to be in Asaba. Viergeachar:Again, answer the question, why did the federal troop carry out the Asaba genocide during the civil war if they aren't Biafra? |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by realjoker(m): 12:55pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
luluman:stop peddling half truths. okun feel more Yoruba than an average Osun man, tell them they are not Yoruba and see what their response is. Which is why I do kick against Markfemi2 creating all these unnecessary threads litter all over nairaland, an average okun, kwarans (be it Yoruba, Nupe, bariba) don't need a referendum to tell you where they belongs, they are not suffering an identity crisis, they know what they are, who they are and what they want. 6 Likes |
Re: Restructuring: Kogi Yorubas Want Reunion With South West by Trottle: 12:55pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Markfemi2: I would get you the evidence of the Nupes of the old. I would give you additional sources on how the Nupes founded Jebba. While I'm on it, you too should start digging up facts about; 1. The Kanuri-Yoruba coalition against the Fulanis 2. The etymology of the word "Jebba" 3. Provide Mungo Park's book that predates Lugard's Do that. |
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