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Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Hanabian: 3:04pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
> Jeremiah > Chapter 1 > Verse 5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart..." The case of freewill is the ultimate failure of the religious propagandas. Its funny how a being that claims you have a free will also punishes you for exercising your freewill. This is a case of giving money to a child and telling him or her to buy a Nintendo or Xbox.In the child's mind,he thinks he has a choice in the matter,but doesn't know his choice has already being decided for him. Wake up people, the religious Gods are myths and only powerful in the pages of fictional books. This is my first topic and post on this site,and I am here to wake a lot of people up from their slumber. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by hopefulLandlord: 3:36pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
interesting |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Hanabian: 4:30pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Did Adam and Eve sin,or where they actually planted in the garden of Eden to further some beings interest? Is it not silly to believe Adam and Eve actually had a say in the matter when in fact they have been preordained to commit the act they whole Bible is based upon? Jer 1:5 As if that deceit is not enough,the Almighty that says he is all knowing and omniscient regretted creating man. Is this a joke,or are some people really silly? Is like keeping a loaded gun near a child with the safety on,and then blaming the child for shooting himself with it.However, this child illustration is still hindered by the fact that the supposed Almighty knows what will happen in 20billion years,yet he never knew that man will eat a fruit. Wake up people from this silly religious bullshit! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by hopefulLandlord: 5:06pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Hanabian:thought provoking |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by geoworldedu: 5:55pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Yahweh's foolishness no be here ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Samsimple(m): 6:30pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
As a guy u go through puberty ..,and also empowered with d power of konji and gradual development of mr P .?abeg which one b no sex b4 marriage abeg make dem dress .. If really dere is a freewill it wont be a sin to commit d above....and if there is no freewill the power of konji and enlargement of ur mr p wud b on ur wedding night 1 Like |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by jonbellion(m): 6:43pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Everything is predestined in Christianity na ![]() If I decide to rob Fort Knox today and have a threeway with bennyann and pidgin2 it wasn't my fault na ![]() ![]() I'd just walk myself to the court like "bitch I did that" 1 Like |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by CAPSLOCKED: 7:30pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Hanabian: NICE.... AND WE ALL WILL BE HERE TO WATCH YOU WASTE YOUR TIME TRYING TO SCHOOL THESE LORD'S "SHEEP". THEY'RE MORE INTERESTED IN MAKING THE CON MEN AND "USUALLY WELL DRESSED FRAUDS" RICHER, WITH THE CONSTANT DEPOSITION OF A CERTAIN 10% AND OTHER OFFERINGS, THAN LISTEN TO WHATEVER SHIIT YOU'RE HERE TO SAY. ![]() |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by hopefulLandlord: 7:33pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
jonbellion:true omniscience paradox |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Hanabian: 7:37pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Did the Almighty Jesus Christ that all Christian faith are based actually sacrifice himself? If Jesus had sacrificed himself, why is he alive? Exactly how did our forefathers even buy this story? As a supposed God Jesus is,he knows already that he will be resurrected when he supposedly dies;after all on many occasions, he has said he is one with the Father.So,what is the sacrifice in dying knowing fully well that its just for two days and no big deal? Judas wasted his sweet precious life thinking he betrayed his master,but JER 1:5 says Judas has already been preordained to do the act.Would Judas had killed himself if he had known this? From the Egyptian tales by moonlight, we are also told God hardened the heart of Pharaoh so that he (God) will use it as an opportunity to kill innocent children. But guess what? Pharaoh is blamed for an act he never had a say in... Wake up people,all the silly stories we once believed before were done as kids who cannot reason.Now that we can reason,why can't we look at this fairy tales and tell it for what it is. The other day in Aba,four kids were killed(murdered) while in Church.Now,it was said one of this kids had told the mum he doesnt want to go to church that day,but the mum wouldn't hear of it.Now kid is dead.God has supposedly (through the mum) led the kid to his untimely death. What the child have died that horribly at home? Just a remember, her brain was crushed. But then am not surprise, that's the type of death God enjoys, isn't it? 4 Likes |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Hanabian: 7:40pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Samsimple:As in eeh... You give someone food,you still will not allow the person eat the food in peace. |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Hanabian: 7:42pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
jonbellion:Lol.You are funny! |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Hanabian: 7:43pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
CAPSLOCKED: My brother,my mind will not let me rest o.I have been trying to keep it to myself, but my mind won't allow me! |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Davidgrey: 9:29pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
You have to stop reading/processing the bible "literally"| Religion is questionable and will forever be faulted. |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Samsimple(m): 11:08pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Hanabian:d tin weak me oohhh |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Obalende: 1:09am On Jul 09, 2017 |
geoworldedu:I would not go this far have some respect for God my hand no dey oh! |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Obalende: 1:13am On Jul 09, 2017 |
This is a thought provoking piece and to add to that the same God turns around says it's our fault, blames us for it and casts us to burn forever. A typical example is the bum shorts, skimpy dressing, rompas etc from the underwater marine kingdom of Satan.... God approved these marine kingdom activity that is currently being sold in stores worldwide turns around and blames men for lust and sends us to burn. And then turns around and claims it loves us? Same thing with Satan God foreknew Satan will fall. What is God even doing with Satan? Why not just destroy it? |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by geoworldedu: 1:32am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Obalende:and if it is for u to despise amadioha my own god now it wouldn't hard u. The majesty of Amadi Oha is greater than that of nonsense Yahweh sef. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Obalende: 1:37am On Jul 09, 2017 |
geoworldedu:Do you want to have another showdown on mount camel? Let both of us pick a certain time, make an alter - I will call upon Jehovah and you will call upon Amadioha; the God that answers by fire let him be God! Pick time and date. |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Nobody: 1:44am On Jul 09, 2017 |
So brother, Are you saying that with "choices" should come no consequences? Or are you saying that any "choice" that one makes should only have a positive outcome? Even if a negative consequence results from having "freewill", shouldn't one have an opportunity to make the choice? |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Obalende: 1:47am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Ngo40: we were given a sinful nature; the Bible says the heart of man is wicked - all our freewill choices will therefore be wicked. So why blame us when we were born that way? |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Nobody: 1:53am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Obalende: Yes...we were born with sinful natures...BUT we don't have to stay that way. That's why Christ came to die for our sins. He died so humanity could be restored to its original perfect state. That was called the plan of Salvation....and there are only two ways....either life or death. He's trying to show us the "best" way to go. But, of course one has a choice whether he/she wants Christ to transform his/her sinful nature. One can choose to stay entrapped in sin..but there is a consequence. |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Obalende: 2:03am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Ngo40: You have written a very wicked piece. Listen to me: God created a devil designated as a tempter, God also created demons to do evil biddings of entrapping us in sin, gave us sinful natures - then how is it my choice that i am entrapped in sin - these powers are too strong for man or woman! Its intellectually lazy to just say we are chosing to remain in sin - address this issue i have just raised if you could... |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Amberon11: 2:15am On Jul 09, 2017 |
So all this headache is caused by an "inexistent" God ![]() ![]() |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Nobody: 2:20am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Obalende: Brother, I'm sorry that you find the piece "wicked" & my response as "intellectually lazy". So with that said, there's nothing else I can address here... |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Obalende: 2:27am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Ngo40: ok then thanks. To all others reading this for centuries Christianity has heaped blame on mankind and I think this is undeserved.... It is God who ordains. Why blame us after ordaining. |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Nobody: 2:34am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Obalende: Brother, You seem extremely angry....why is that so? The Bible is the blueprint.....which followers of Christ are supposed to use as their guide. But you are angry with God....since its ultimately His book...His words... Yes it points out negatives....but it also offers solutions... |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Obalende: 2:36am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Ngo40:Because we are mere objects of war to be cast to hell mostly due to no fault of our own and be blamed for it... Salvation of Christ is not perfect, if it were, it would have delivered us from the power of sin; christianity is very complicated and full of threats. i dont expect u to have all the answers because you are not God. but thanks at least for listening. |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Nobody: 2:37am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Obalende: You are welcome brother... |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Nobody: 5:10am On Jul 09, 2017 |
jonbellion: The only three way you'll be getting is a trip to Hades if you don't repent for good ![]() |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by geoworldedu: 6:00am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Obalende: ![]() |
Re: Christians And The Foolishness Of Freewill by Hanabian: 7:27am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Ngo40:Sister, I am saying you should look at the instances I gave and see if those people actually had a choice or were preordained to do the acts they did. Now,if they were preordained to do the act,where then does the human freewill exist? |
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