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Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by Nobody: 10:50pm On Jul 10, 2017
spacetacular:


Then why not use TC (Topic Creator)
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Is it uk-land? Why tell us how to run our stuffs ehh undecided

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Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by ifenes(m): 2:25am On Jul 11, 2017
This is really interesting. I am happy to see people who think outside the box with upgraded minds. All humans are the same but all do not vibrate at the same frequency.

All mobile phone can primarily make calls and send text messages but you cannot expect the 3310 Nokia to carry out the unique functions of an iPhone 7. In fact the vintage Nokia fone will argue that it is not possible to do a video call simply because it cannot do it or imagine such possibility. This is what goes on in the human world. Logic is limited and those governed by logic alone are prone to sever ignorance. They want evidence they can see with their limited foresight. It is not impossible to explain a 3 dimensional theory to a 1 dimensional being.

Once upon a time I joined an "Atheist" whatsapp group chat via naira land. Honestly I have never met such extreme ignorant minds as I did on there They claim to be "free thinkers" but will not consider the possibility of a parallel universe or possibilities of existence of higher dimensions. They were always quick to debunk. They crave debunking anything contrary to their views. Such mindsets are enslaved to science and Charles Dawkins just as Christians are to the false interpretations of the bible.

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Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by obinna58(m): 3:54am On Jul 11, 2017
Cooop:


It's a tool to control you to view life in a 1 dimensional pattern and to elevate conventional scientific empiricism, despite how infantile it is, to the level where it becomes a sieve to which you distill every truth.

It limits you because it disconnects you from the understanding that you are a soul and your physical body is just a suit, and as a soul, you have the ability to access powers and a higher level of consciousness beyond this 3rd dimensional plane your physical body exists in.

It also keeps you in the dark about every other truth that exists. Example: Miracles, ghosts, and entities like demons/angels/extraterrestrials that exist in other dimensions that your doubt about their existence, keeps you in subordination to them.


Soul hehehehehehehe there z nothing like soul Bro(it would have been best thing to ever happen to human it soul Really exist) What everyone wished for, I'm more like a physicalist Will tell u that "apart from matter and it components nothing more exist"
Coincidence is connected with miracle, enlightened atheists can never deny the fact that ghosts, demons, angels Etc exist Cos it has to do with the power of mind But on a real note those spiritual beings does not exist,
When ones mind is messed up it might result hallucinations, Mind can be messed up through different ways *Religion Drugs* alcohol*movies etc they all have the capability of reseting one mind for Some moments,
It's impossible to drive any sort Life advantage through imaginations, dreams, visions etc rather it creates more negative effects to the brain, I'm sure u av seen many people run mad in the street without knowing the cause hehehehehehehe, some might be as a result of religion no one would agree to it Though but I'm sure u av seen many run mad as a result of drugs, Some Start doing strange things after long period of talking alcohol, they will all the time act as if they are drunk even when they are not
And not talks about religion heheh

We all have subconscious mind bcoz of how we were raised Knowing how to keep the mind calm is difficult when u believe in some certain things that aren't real, that why some Battle unreal beings in quest to calm/comfort the mind.
But
The only thing I can Never denie is The possibility of recarnation(existence of mind) since u existed At first their z still possibility that after death ur mind might probably exist again without knowing u existed b4 But only in form that will allow u to know u Existed wink



spacetacular here is the paining truth u failed to see from ur own side grin
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by Cooop: 6:15am On Jul 11, 2017
obinna58:



Soul hehehehehehehe there z nothing like soul Bro(it would have been best thing to ever happen to human it soul Really exist) What everyone wished for, I'm more like a physicalist Will tell u that "apart from matter and it components nothing more exist"
Coincidence is connected with miracle, enlightened atheists can never deny the fact that ghosts, demons, angels Etc exist Cos it has to do with the power of mind But on a real note those spiritual beings does not exist,
When ones mind is messed up it might result hallucinations, Mind can be messed up through different ways *Religion Drugs* alcohol*movies etc they all have the capability of reseting one mind for Some moments,
It's impossible to drive any sort Life advantage through imaginations, dreams, visions etc rather it creates more negative effects to the brain, I'm sure u av seen many people run mad in the street without knowing the cause hehehehehehehe, some might be as a result of religion no one would agree to it Though but I'm sure u av seen many run mad as a result of drugs, Some Start doing strange things after long period of talking alcohol, they will all the time act as if they are drunk even when they are not
And not talks about religion heheh

We all have subconscious mind bcoz of how we were raised Knowing how to keep the mind calm is difficult when u believe in some certain things that aren't real, that why some Battle unreal beings in quest to calm/comfort the mind.
But
The only thing I can Never denie is The possibility of recarnation(existence of mind) since u existed At first their z still possibility that after death ur mind might probably exist again without knowing u existed b4 But only in form that will allow u to know u Existed wink



spacetacular here is the paining truth u failed to see from ur own side grin

I am not going to argue with you. I won't argue with you because I can strongly empathize with you. I can strongly empathize with you because I was once like you. I know where you are coming from. These same arguments you are making, I have made them before and with an even stronger conviction. And if I have learned anything from arguing on issues like this, is that no argument I present in refutation to yours will change your mind. This is because your mind is operating on a one dimensional plane where it only examines reality linearly. And the lens used for this examination is the kind of scientific empiricism that requires objective proof on the basis of what can be seen, touched and felt with our limited five senses. But even mainstream science has proven that our senses are incredibly flawed and they aren't effective tools in discerning reality, especially on a quantum and microscopic level.

The people who control the current educational system and who provide funds for mainstream academic projects that support most of the arguments you made, don't believe what you believe. If they could stumble on this thread, they'd laugh at your blindness and be proud of themselves for creating and sustaining a system that gives people like you an illusion of knowledge, when in reality you are extremely ignorant.

One thing I have realized on my journey is that knowledge is the highest form of power and throughout history, people have craved for power, and when they get it, they safeguard it. They make sure no one else gets it. If knowledge is power then it means that people who possess powerful knowledge would definitely not want everyone to have it, cause it they do, then it extinguishes their power over them.
What history has thought me is that most times, what the majority of people believe about serious & controversial subjects like this, is always either false or incomplete. There could be elements of truth in it, but a lot of the content is false. And this kind of false knowledge is deliberately packaged and fed to the majority by those in power. And one of the ways to sustain this structure of feeding false or incomplete knowledge to the general public is through a systematic form of education and information that is engineered to ridicule the real truth, while creating an illusion of intellectual enlightenment.
This is the most effective form of control and power sustenance.

While I was an atheist, I always wondered why if obviously religion was a tool to control and enslave, why then were people all over the world converting to mainstream atheists and yet this system of mainstream atheism was lubricating itself and growing. With what I know about history and the power structure of the elite, this didn't make any sense. Why would they orchestrate a covert war on religion, a tool that was effective in keeping people in the dark? Why would they sit still and allow a powerful system of control gradually dissolve? Well, I now have an answer to this question. And this answer is essentially the topic of my thread. When you are clearing a piece of land with a cutlass and you realize a land mower is more efficient, common sense dictates that you switch over to using a land mower.

My advice for you is to humbly seek knowledge. And don't restrict your search for knowledge to a particular brand of knowledge, especially if that brand of knowledge ridicules other brands of knowledge. The word RIDICULE is quite important because it thrives on negative qualities like pride, self conceit, arrogance and a lack of compassion or empathy. Ridicule rides on the back of an agenda to disparage and belittle. You only try to belittle what you are afraid of or threatened by.
If you notice, of all the brands of knowledge at our disposal, only one brand ridicules. Other brands of knowledge may oppose or even despise, but they'd never ridicule. Every knowledge is potentially enlightening. Most of what I have said may not make sense to you now, but when you are truly enlightened, it will.
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by frank317: 6:24am On Jul 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Leave her alone grin

She only wants Christian brothers smiley

And that Christian brothers is u?

Well, incase you win her heart, the right hole is down between the legs and not her mouth.

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Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by CatfishBilly: 7:13am On Jul 11, 2017
ifenes:
This is really interesting. I am happy to see people who think outside the box with upgraded minds. All humans are the same but all do not vibrate at the same frequency.

All mobile phone can primarily make calls and send text messages but you cannot expect the 3310 Nokia to carry out the unique functions of an iPhone 7. In fact the vintage Nokia fone will argue that it is not possible to do a video call simply because it cannot do it or imagine such possibility. This is what goes on in the human world. Logic is limited and those governed by logic alone are prone to sever ignorance. They want evidence they can see with their limited foresight. It is not impossible to explain a 3 dimensional theory to a 1 dimensional being.

Once upon a time I joined an "Atheist" whatsapp group chat via naira land. Honestly I have never met such extreme ignorant minds as I did on there They claim to be "free thinkers" but will not consider the possibility of a parallel universe or possibilities of existence of higher dimensions. They were always quick to debunk. They crave debunking anything contrary to their views. Such mindsets are enslaved to science and Charles Dawkins just as Christians are to the false interpretations of the bible.

Oga ife, please, let this go. I'm begging you.

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Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by frank317: 7:36am On Jul 11, 2017
spacetacular:


I have been noticing OP being used a lot here. What does that mean?

And Felixomor liked this post where she asked a simple question. And anyone thinks this guy is not an immbeccile?

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Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by frank317: 7:41am On Jul 11, 2017
felixomor:
Thank God for your life Op,
Remain blessed....

Atheism is dead logic.
More people in the world are now seeing it.

Why are you thanking God for his life... Does he even sound like u? Your God that you are ignorantly thanking will still put him in hell for not believing in him.
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by frank317: 7:45am On Jul 11, 2017
ifenes:
This is really interesting. I am happy to see people who think outside the box with upgraded minds. All humans are the same but all do not vibrate at the same frequency.

All mobile phone can primarily make calls and send text messages but you cannot expect the 3310 Nokia to carry out the unique functions of an iPhone 7. In fact the vintage Nokia fone will argue that it is not possible to do a video call simply because it cannot do it or imagine such possibility. This is what goes on in the human world. Logic is limited and those governed by logic alone are prone to sever ignorance. They want evidence they can see with their limited foresight. It is not impossible to explain a 3 dimensional theory to a 1 dimensional being.

Once upon a time I joined an "Atheist" whatsapp group chat via naira land. Honestly I have never met such extreme ignorant minds as I did on there They claim to be "free thinkers" but will not consider the possibility of a parallel universe or possibilities of existence of higher dimensions. They were always quick to debunk. They crave debunking anything contrary to their views. Such mindsets are enslaved to science and Charles Dawkins just as Christians are to the false interpretations of the bible


Felixomor, can u thank God for his life too?
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by felixomor: 7:53am On Jul 11, 2017
frank317:


And Felixomor liked this post where she asked a simple question. And anyone thinks this guy is not an immbeccile?

When a mad man says you are a "slowpoke"
You rejoice because he reasons upside down.
Especially when he is the type that tells lies....

Ediort undecided

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Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by felixomor: 7:59am On Jul 11, 2017
frank317:


[s]Why are you thanking God for his life... Does he even sound like u? Your God that you are ignorantly thanking will still put him in hell for not believing in him[/s].

Sorry he doesn't have to sound like me before I thank God.......
Your own ignorance will not allow you comprehend that.....

No wonder research shows that atheism has devastating effects on the brain. Which was again confirmed by a Former atheist on this thread.....
https://www.nairaland.com/3493419/researches-reveal-atheism-devastating-effects

Receive sense.

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Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by JackBizzle: 8:53am On Jul 11, 2017
The fact remains that atheism is not a religion and neither is it science.

I do not see how it can be used as a tool to control.

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Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by jonbellion(m): 9:19am On Jul 11, 2017
frank317:


And Felixomor liked this post where she asked a simple question. And anyone thinks this guy is not an immbeccile?
calling him an imbe.cile is elevating his status bro
lipsrsealed
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by felixomor: 10:08am On Jul 11, 2017
jonbellion:
calling him an imbe.cile is elevating his status bro
lipsrsealed

Why will you not fall cheap lies?
Olodo undecided
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by jonbellion(m): 10:18am On Jul 11, 2017
felixomor:


Why will you not fall cheap lies?
Olodo undecided
d'uh sowey I cain't speAk re.TaWð bu I'm twying vewwy hawd 4 'ur sakke
Is this good enough?

Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by JackBizzle: 10:39am On Jul 11, 2017
felixomor:


Why will you not fall cheap lies?
Olodo undecided

But bro, you no shame small?

You lick azz so tey you come like post wey no get sense?

How could you go and like a post that is asking for the meaning of "OP"?

Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by felixomor: 10:50am On Jul 11, 2017
JackBizzle:


But bro, you no shame small?

You lick azz so tey you come like post wey no get sense?

How could you go and like a post that is asking for the meaning of "OP"?


Hehehehe
You should be the one ashame my dear,
Somebody told a lie, and you gullibly and foolishly swallowed....

Anyway
A scammer falling for lies from a fellow liar......,
No surprises
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by CoolUsername: 2:18pm On Jul 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


I have you told many times to show me this evidence . You evaded this request like a coward grin . There is no evidence for atheism


I've said it time and time again that it isn't possible to prove non-existence beyond all doubt. You disagreed, so I told you to prove that Superman doesn't exist. Do that or shut up about this argument.
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by obinna58(m): 2:53pm On Jul 11, 2017
Cooop:


I am not going to argue with you. I won't argue with you because I can strongly empathize with you. I can strongly empathize with you because I was once like you. I know where you are coming from. These same arguments you are making, I have made them before and with an even stronger conviction. And if I have learned anything from arguing on issues like this, is that no argument I present in refutation to yours will change your mind. This is because your mind is operating on a one dimensional plane where it only examines reality linearly. And the lens used for this examination is the kind of scientific empiricism that requires objective proof on the basis of what can be seen, touched and felt with our limited five senses. But even mainstream science has proven that our senses are incredibly flawed and they aren't effective tools in discerning reality, especially on a quantum and microscopic level.

The people who control the current educational system and who provide funds for mainstream academic projects that support most of the arguments you made, don't believe what you believe. If they could stumble on this thread, they'd laugh at your blindness and be proud of themselves for creating and sustaining a system that gives people like you an illusion of knowledge, when in reality you are extremely ignorant.

One thing I have realized on my journey is that knowledge is the highest form of power and throughout history, people have craved for power, and when they get it, they safeguard it. They make sure no one else gets it. If knowledge is power then it means that people who possess powerful knowledge would definitely not want everyone to have it, cause it they do, then it extinguishes their power over them.
What history has thought me is that most times, what the majority of people believe about serious & controversial subjects like this, is always either false or incomplete. There could be elements of truth in it, but a lot of the content is false. And this kind of false knowledge is deliberately packaged and fed to the majority by those in power. And one of the ways to sustain this structure of feeding false or incomplete knowledge to the general public is through a systematic form of education and information that is engineered to ridicule the real truth, while creating an illusion of intellectual enlightenment.
This is the most effective form of control and power sustenance.

While I was an atheist, I always wondered why if obviously religion was a tool to control and enslave, why then were people all over the world converting to mainstream atheists and yet this system of mainstream atheism was lubricating itself and growing. With what I know about history and the power structure of the elite, this didn't make any sense. Why would they orchestrate a covert war on religion, a tool that was effective in keeping people in the dark? Why would they sit still and allow a powerful system of control gradually dissolve? Well, I now have an answer to this question. And this answer is essentially the topic of my thread. When you are clearing a piece of land with a cutlass and you realize a land mower is more efficient, common sense dictates that you switch over to using a land mower.

My advice for you is to humbly seek knowledge. And don't restrict your search for knowledge to a particular brand of knowledge, especially if that brand of knowledge ridicules other brands of knowledge. The word RIDICULE is quite important because it thrives on negative qualities like pride, self conceit, arrogance and a lack of compassion or empathy. Ridicule rides on the back of an agenda to disparage and belittle. You only try to belittle what you are afraid of or threatened by.
If you notice, of all the brands of knowledge at our disposal, only one brand ridicules. Other brands of knowledge may oppose or even despise, but they'd never ridicule. Every knowledge is potentially enlightening. Most of what I have said may not make sense to you now, but when you are truly enlightened, it will.
No u never emphasized with me neither do you wanna argue with me, and u were never like me bro, let's say u weren't able to control ur subconscious mind, letting it ruin ur mind may result to running away from atheism (I was once an atheist too), I would have preferred u to argue with me, letting me see clearly from Ur side of view not just trying to enlighten me with proveless points(i'm just an open book ready to learn), prove me wrong in my view of things and I would forever be grateful seeing from ur own side, u can't just make me believe u without facts,
Like I said atheism would never deny the fact that ghosts, demon, angels etc exist, if they do that means they also would say hallucinations doesn't happen.
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by obinna58(m): 6:49pm On Jul 11, 2017
JackBizzle:
The fact remains that atheism is not a religion and neither is it science.

I do not see how it can be used as a tool to control.


They are just confused
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by chemystery: 5:47pm On Jul 12, 2017
The OP is right. Theists and atheists are fundamentally the same.
We are both like men, blindfolded in a dark room and looking for a black cat that isn't there.
The only difference is that the theists have found the cat. grin
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:24pm On Jul 12, 2017
felixomor:
Thank God for your life Op,
Remain blessed....

Atheism is dead logic.
More people in the world are now seeing it.

True. More intelligent people are now against it .

Atheists are now the ones being mocked and tossed aside on social media

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Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:28pm On Jul 12, 2017
ifenes:
This is really interesting. I am happy to see people who think outside the box with upgraded minds. All humans are the same but all do not vibrate at the same frequency.

All mobile phone can primarily make calls and send text messages but you cannot expect the 3310 Nokia to carry out the unique functions of an iPhone 7. In fact the vintage Nokia fone will argue that it is not possible to do a video call simply because it cannot do it or imagine such possibility. This is what goes on in the human world. Logic is limited and those governed by logic alone are prone to sever ignorance. They want evidence they can see with their limited foresight. It is not impossible to explain a 3 dimensional theory to a 1 dimensional being.

Once upon a time I joined an "Atheist" whatsapp group chat via naira land. Honestly I have never met such extreme ignorant minds as I did on there They claim to be "free thinkers" but will not consider the possibility of a parallel universe or possibilities of existence of higher dimensions. They were always quick to debunk. They crave debunking anything contrary to their views. Such mindsets are enslaved to science and Charles Dawkins just as Christians are to the false interpretations of the bible.


And there are so many Christians that support the idea of world ensemble . Atheists are not science inclined , a study of their history can leave it bare for all to see . They thrive on criticism , I've never seen such an ignorant and close-minded group ever !

Thanks for letting out the truth

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Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by Nobody: 11:02pm On Jul 12, 2017
Cooop:


No. I have achieved a kind of intellectual humility and understanding that allows me appreciate and respect every religion. I am not a practicing member of any religion, but I have acknowledged the invaluable knowledge that is in the content of their holy books, most of which have been distorted to further a political agenda and to hide the real truths from the adherents of these religions.

I mean you could have done this and still be atheist. Is your issue with atheism that atheists are spiritually unenlightened, are you now spiritual but not religious?

Edit: I have now read your posts, I feel you may have subscribed to some conspiracy theory. Anyway the idea that atheism is dogmatic is silly, even if the lack of a belief in a god or gods is a dogma that's where it ends. That is why atheists have a broad set of views and ideas, there is no restriction on how you can reason and what you can practice, that's why we have self-identified Christian atheists.
Re: Atheists Don't Know That Atheism Is Also A Tool To Control And Limit. by JackBizzle: 9:02am On Jul 13, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


True. More intelligent people are now against it .

Atheists are now the ones being mocked and tossed aside on social media
grin

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