Daboomb:


Wait o, are you saying it is the Northerners (probably those employed as maiguards) that stole the cables?

please clarify properly

those one that usually scavenge stuff around.. the cable was not removed by a professional.. cause it was cut in pieces. they will sell them as scrap.. if they try to pull and its difficult they use sharp object to cut it..

twinskenny:


those one that usually scavenge stuff around.. the cable was not removed by a professional.. cause it was cut in pieces. they will sell them as scrap.. if they try to pull and its difficult they use sharp object to cut it..

Aaaah, now l remember those abokees!

desiji:
My Wires were also stolen it was really a setback i had to replace and also took counter measures to avoid future occurence
after buying with so much money

@desiji.What countermeasures did you put in place to prevent theft of cables? I just learned from @Twinskenny that installing the electrical fittings first can deter cable thieves.

GoodFaith:
What is the average price of Italian and Spanish tiles?
What is the average cost of Nigeria tiles?
I like the tiles that look like wood

@GoodFaith. I don't know the difference between foreign and local tiles anymore. My tiler told me that Royal Tiles are made in India and Goodwill Tiles are made in China and PNT tiles were China tiles, so I went to the market and bought some. Just found out after I had bought them that Royal tiles are manufactured in Ajaokuta, Kogi State and Goodwill tiles are made in Agbara, Ogun State while PNT tiles are manufactured in Magboro, Ogun State.
I bought my tiles 60 x 60 for N3200 per sqm and 25 x 40 tiles for N2100 per sqm In March of this year.

toxxnoni:


Have you gotten the mail i sent you

@toxxnoni. I got your mail, but the wrong kind. I was expecting a quote for constructing a 40-feet overhead water stand, instead what I got was several Real Estate ads.

Most of the Nigerian made tiles presently are as follow.
PNT
Royal
Ba
Goodwill
Crown
Nispo

Few tips about Nigeria tiles and others

Most Nigeria tiles manufacturer now proudly write there name boldly on there product.

If you check the back of most Nigeria indoor tiles(toilet, kitchen wall) do comes in offwhite or cream colour

Most nigeria walls tiles are not heavy when you hold it.

Most Nigeria tiles are not double fire baking( only professional can used this to know there diff from Spanish tiles.

Lastly let's embrace our product we will get there one day.its not like before that we use to see only 6*6 abeoukta and Royal white wall tiles, now there are verities.

* But real Spanish still remain real Spanish or Italy.we have not reach that level here in Nigeria for now oo. Colour/design and size can be the same but in quality we are not yet catch up with them.


Spanish or Italy tiles

If you check there wall tiles back you will find it reddish or teracota colour.

It's well fire baked

Non fade.

Almost all of them are heavy when you hold it.

If you place Nigeria wall and Spanish tiles beside each other you will see the quality diff.

Most of there wall tiles are very thick.

Lastly they comes in many sizes that you can not even think of 120*120*,60*60, 45*45,20*50,20*60, 100*100, 33.5*33.5, etc.

WorldAmbassador:
@GoodFaith. I don't know the difference between foreign and local tiles anymore. My tiler told me that Royal Tiles are made in India and Goodwill Tiles are made in China and PNT tiles were China tiles, so I went to the market and bought some. Just found out after I had bought them that Royal tiles are manufactured in Ajaokuta, Kogi State and Goodwill tiles are made in Agbara, Ogun State while PNT tiles are manufactured in Magboro, Ogun State.
I bought my tiles 60 x 60 for N3200 per sqm and 25 x 40 tiles for N2100 per sqm In March of this year.

Don't worry, you did good. The floors are done and now you can move on to other things instead of getting stuck in indecisiveness. I used Goodwill partly because it's from my state.

Any guests that's bothered by my choice of flooring can GTFO and don't come back.

EgunMogaji:
Has anybody used Polystar product before and have opinion to share?

I'm looking specifically at their drop in gas cooker.

http://www.polystarelectronics.com/99-thickbox_default/gas-cooker-pv-wa0788.jpg

I'm also interested in the measurement of this product do I can plan the layout of my counter top. I've emailed the company over a week ago with no response

Thanks.

Found the info I needed, in case it's useful for others.

Innu:
Good day experts and students in the house. Kindly assist as I have a challenge needing solutions.

1. There are usually water-soaked patches on the wall just below the Windows (casement) after every downpour. These are usually found on both sides of the wall (below the window) and remains for a very long time before drying out after days of intense sunshine.
What could be the cause and what are the possible solutions? These started after the windows' fixing and wall plastering. The fear of mould growth, wall weakening, paint peeling etc...

2. What is the best way to resolve leaking roof sheets (metcoppo) - after roofing? Does the same principle apply for leaks along the gutters and the leaks on other sides?

3. When the roof-sheet 'ears' on the parapet is so shortly extended that the rain run-offs runs on the parapet wall, creating water soaked patch.
what could be the solution?

@
Mufutau
Spider 880
Hajj
Skimanski
Etc over to you sirs.

Although I have seen all the good responses by some of my friends here, but the the whole three problems could be linked to just one problem, the leaking roof. Metcoppo sheets are notorious for multiple leaks as a result of too many problems with its design. I have done more than 13 roofs with Metcoppo and had to return later and do correction to leaks later in about 11 of the houses. What I now do is a procedure we call "double lapping" this means we adjust the lapping of the sheets inwards, consuming more sheets than it would with other types like the long span sheets. Metcoppo also allows much leaks from gutters and ridges.

The leaking roof can still soak your window lower blocks if the leak is directly above a wall, and rain water is flowing into the blocks.

The parapet short cover could mean water running on the parapet will soak into any crack and still find its way into your walls, settling inside the lower window blocks.

To tell you to remove and refoof the whole house and this time applying "double lapping" method will be tough on the pockets. But since you are also complaining of the extension over the parapet being too short, I still see no way you can solve that one if not a complete re roof, buying a few more sheets to join this one. But first, get a roofer to climb up the roof and give you a good assessment of the problem.

For a better assessment, its better to climb in from the ceiling when it's raining.

WorldAmbassador:
@desiji.What countermeasures did you put in place to prevent theft of cables? I just learned from @Twinskenny that installing the electrical fittings first can deter cable thieves.

Prevention is better than cure. Leave all cable wire works till you are ready to do the last works in the house before moving in. Make sure you have doors and burglary proof done and a human presence before doing the wires.

As soon as you start the wiring, don't stop till you fit all switches, sockets and lighting fittings.

spyder880:


Prevention is better than cure. Leave all cable wire works till you are ready to do the last works in the house before moving in. Make sure you have doors and burglary proof done and a human presence before doing the wires.

As soon as you start the wiring, don't stop till you fit all switches, sockets and lighting fittings.

Cabling can be done when the windows and, burglary and the main entrance doors has been done. External cables van be suspended until the fittings is available.

EgunMogaji:


This is why I hurried up to build a gateman house and affix a MaiGuard at my site.

I feel slightly better that the site has at least a live in look.

I will be through with the gate house this week, meanwhile, I decided to continue every other work, few weeks to my moving in, I will employ security and do the wiring and fittings. Honestly na small set back but I thank God for provisions.

rotecch77:
Most of the Nigerian made tiles presently are as follow.
PNT
Royal
Ba
Goodwill
Crown
Nispo

Few tips about Nigeria tiles and others

Most Nigeria tiles manufacturer now proudly write there name boldly on there product.

If you check the back of most Nigeria indoor tiles(toilet, kitchen wall) do comes in offwhite or cream colour

Most nigeria walls tiles are not heavy when you hold it.

Most Nigeria tiles are not double fire baking( only professional can used this to know there diff from Spanish tiles.

Lastly let's embrace our product we will get there one day.its not like before that we use to see only 6*6 abeoukta and Royal white wall tiles, now there are verities.

* But real Spanish still remain real Spanish or Italy.we have not reach that level here in Nigeria for now oo. Colour/design and size can be the same but in quality we are not yet catch up with them.


Spanish or Italy tiles

If you check there wall tiles back you will find it reddish or teracota colour.

It's well fire baked

Non fade.

Almost all of them are heavy when you hold it.

If you place Nigeria wall and Spanish tiles beside each other you will see the quality diff.

Most of there wall tiles are very thick.

Lastly they comes in many sizes that you can not even think of 120*120*,60*60, 45*45,20*50,20*60, 100*100, 33.5*33.5, etc.

Thanks for this information. This is really helpful. Now since Nigerian tiles are not double baked, do you know how durable they are over time? Do you know if the tiles will wear out or 'chop' like the picture below?

topsy23:


Cabling can be done when the windows and, burglary and the main entrance doors has been done. External cables van be suspended until the fittings is available.

baba forget o.. human presence and fittings is very essential.. they remove buglary to do the evil work... those guys are perfect.. on the second site they remove two blocks and the gain access without much noise

SURGE IN IRON ROD PRICES

There is a current hike of Iron Rods PRICES this morning. They are even telling me here that it will rise more in the coming days.

@diodave, note; not all Nigeria tiles are good as we promote and praise them thank God you found that pics you send some of them will turn out to be as that while few of them will still last longer.
Majorly this happened in a traffic part of the building.
But few of NIGERIA tiles can withstand such heavy traffic area within shortest period of time it will fade off.
More pics to buttress your answer .

Heavy traffic part of building will only take some Nigeria tiles just 2-3yrs to Fade off.

While good Nigeria product of higher quality will take about 7yrs. Based on experience ...

Spanish porcelain or vetrify will do that magic.... But nna money.

If no be panadol it can never be like panadol.

That is why I do advise my client or anybody that asked me question or that show me there budget to mixed tiles higher quality or Spanish for heavy traffic area and lesser one for non traffic area....all based on your pocket

spyder880:
SURGE IN IRON ROD PRICES

There is a current hike of Iron Rods PRICES this morning. They are even telling me here that it will rise more in the coming days.

Spyder880 why the hike in price? Are the mongers saying anything?

diordaves:


Spyder880 why the hike in price? Are the mongers saying anything?

The Oga from the manufacturing company making one of the brands said it's because of rising costs of the materials used in making the Rods. He is telling me to buy as many as possible as the prices might rise further.

spyder880:


Although I have seen all the good responses by some of my friends here, but the the whole three problems could be linked to just one problem, the leaking roof. Metcoppo sheets are notorious for multiple leaks as a result of too many problems with its design. I have done more than 13 roofs with Metcoppo and had to return later and do correction to leaks later in about 11 of the houses. What I now do is a procedure we call "double lapping" this means we adjust the lapping of the sheets inwards, consuming more sheets than it would with other types like the long span sheets. Metcoppo also allows much leaks from gutters and ridges.

The leaking roof can still soak your window lower blocks if the leak is directly above a wall, and rain water is flowing into the blocks.

The parapet short cover could mean water running on the parapet will soak into any crack and still find its way into your walls, settling inside the lower window blocks.

To tell you to remove and refoof the whole house and this time applying "double lapping" method will be tough on the pockets. But since you are also complaining of the extension over the parapet being too short, I still see no way you can solve that one if not a complete re roof, buying a few more sheets to join this one. But first, get a roofer to climb up the roof and give you a good assessment of the problem.

For a better assessment, its better to climb in from the ceiling when it's raining.

Sir, thanks for this enlightenment. My engineer said same thing regarding the metcoppo and suggested I roof with long span cos of its notorious leaking nature. With this your write up, am really having a rethink.

Hi my people in the house. I started following this thread today and I can see a lot has been said in the past. I am currently reading through the thread but I know that it would be hard to go through everything discussed earlier so please don't be angry if the question am about to ask as been asked before.

I am an aspiring first time owner and about to embark on my first project. The plan is to go super budget and low cost. I do not have a plan yet but all I want is a simple.. very basic 3 bedroom apartment on a 50 x 50 meters plot of land I just recently procured. Because I am starting afresh and opened to new ideas I was considering using Interlocking bricks like hydrofoam due to the numerous advantages I heard about them but unfortunately I am yet to see a company into those type of technology in my part of Abuja.

Although I am still open to using Hydrofoam I have resolved to doing things the classical nigerian way. I would appreciate suggestions and ideas I can use so that me and my family can also be house owners. Cheers.

@Spyder880
Please give us your views on Spanish, Italian, Chinese, Nigerian made tiles. Not as a seller but as a user and contractor that you are.
Just general ideas. Please not the other comments. Thank you.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:
@Spyder880
Please give us your views on Spanish, Italian, Chinese, Nigerian made tiles. Not as a seller but as a user and contractor that you are.
Just general ideas. Please not the other comments. Thank you.

Hajji M.

I await with glee.

mufutau55:
@Spyder880
Please give us your views on Spanish, Italian, Chinese, Nigerian made tiles. Not as a seller but as a user and contractor that you are.
Just general ideas. Please not the other comments. Thank you.

Hajji M.

Thanks for the invite Sir.

I have used a lot of tiles from almost all the countries tiles can be imported into Nigeria.

Spanish tiles

These are tiles which are brought in from Spain and are of a noticeably higher quality than some other ones. There seems to me to be a better attempt at the smoothness of the edges, the conscious efforts to glamorize the products coming from that source. I think a lot of Spanish tiles are good to look at, has a good feel and are well packaged to attract the users. Spanish tiles are usually higher priced than some other tiles, except Italian tiles. There are a lot of tiles which comes in from Spain, which seem to be produced for the super rich alone, how can you explain some tiles I have seen, which sell for as much as N40,000 for a single square meter, (it's not a typo )

Italian tiles

These share most of the characteristics of Spanish tiles, except that I cannot seem to understand the appeal of Italian tiles due to the lack of beautiful colors or designs. Italian tiles are usually a little more expensive than the Spanish tiles. But they are also rugged and will last for a long time before fading due to traffic.

Chinese tiles

Chinese manufacturers started aiming at this country when they found out the crazy demand for tiles here, their tiles are mostly mid range products and are good to use. Many Chinese tiles are cheaper than the Spanish or Italians, there is also the talk that some Chinese imported tiles are of a lower quality than even Nigerian made tiles. I also noticed the copy cat nature of our importers who will pick a design from Spain and move to China to produce same tiles and bring them in, and you can hardly spot the difference.

Nigerian tiles

As a result of the demand, some manufacturers brought in the equipment and knowhow and started making tiles here in Nigeria, before, it was of a lower quality and very light when lifted. The attraction seemed to be the cost, as Nigerian tiles were dirt cheap, compared to its foreign counterparts, but as time moved on, Nigerian tiles makers upped the ante, and now you can hardly differentiate the difference between Nigerian made tiles and the foreign ones. Nigerian tiles are now attracting better attention from users owing to the massive rise in the cost of the foreign tiles, because of the hike in foreign currency exchange rates. We are also copying the foreign designs. The Wood grain designs or the other popular styles are now available with the Nigerian made tiles.

Finally, tiles should be chosen based on the way it appeals to the owner of the house, because we are all different beings. There are people that buy stuff because it's costly, or because it's cheap. There are people who consider the beauty of the designs, while others consider the durability. But one thing is clear, a Nigerian tile can do the same job an expensive foreign tile did. And most people may never notice the difference.

spyder880:

Thanks for the invite Sir.

I have used a lot of tiles from almost all the countries tiles can be imported into Nigeria.

Spanish tiles

These are tiles which are brought in from Spain and are of a noticeably higher quality than some other ones. There seems to me to be a better attempt at the smoothness of the edges, the conscious efforts to glamorize the products coming from that source. I think a lot of Spanish tiles are good to look at, has a good feel and are well packaged to attract the users. Spanish tiles are usually higher priced than some other tiles, except Italian tiles. There are a lot of tiles which comes in from Spain, which seem to be produced for the super rich alone, how can you explain some tiles I have seen, which sell for as much as N40,000 for a single square meter, (it's not a typo )

Italian tiles

These share most of the characteristics of Spanish tiles, except that I cannot seem to understand the appeal of Italian tiles due to the lack of beautiful colors or designs. Italian tiles are usually a little more expensive than the Spanish tiles. But they are also rugged and will last for a long time before fading due to traffic.

Chinese tiles

Chinese manufacturers started aiming at this country when they found out the crazy demand for tiles here, their tiles are mostly mid range products and are good to use. Many Chinese tiles are cheaper than the Spanish or Italians, there is also the talk that some Chinese imported tiles are of a lower quality than even Nigerian made tiles. I also noticed the copy cat nature of our importers who will pick a design from Spain and move to China to produce same tiles and bring them in, and you can hardly spot the difference.

Nigerian tiles

As a result of the demand, some manufacturers brought in the equipment and knowhow and started making tiles here in Nigeria, before, it was of a lower quality and very light when lifted. The attraction seemed to be the cost, as Nigerian tiles were dirt cheap, compared to its foreign counterparts, but as time moved on, Nigerian tiles makers upped the ante, and now you can hardly differentiate the difference between Nigerian made tiles and the foreign ones. Nigerian tiles are now attracting better attention from users owing to the massive rise in the cost of the foreign tiles, because of the hike in foreign currency exchange rates. We are also copying the foreign designs. The Wood grain designs or the other popular styles are now available with the Nigerian made tiles.

Finally, tiles should be chosen based on the way it appeals to the owner of the house, because we are all different beings. There are people that buy stuff because it's costly, or because it's cheap. There are people who consider the beauty of the designs, while others consider the durability. But one thing is clear, a Nigerian tile can do the same job an expensive foreign tile did. And most people may never notice the difference.

Thank you very much sir. And Yes, I quoted the whole message for a purpose. Your contribution is highly appreciated.

Hajji M.

diordaves:


Spyder880 why the hike in price? Are the mongers saying anything?

This is the major reason
https://www.nairaland.com/3913194/son-shuts-seven-firms-over

spyder880:


Thanks for the invite Sir.

I have used a lot of tiles from almost all the countries tiles can be imported into Nigeria.

Spanish tiles

These are tiles which are brought in from Spain and are of a noticeably higher quality than some other ones. There seems to me to be a better attempt at the smoothness of the edges, the conscious efforts to glamorize the products coming from that source. I think a lot of Spanish tiles are good to look at, has a good feel and are well packaged to attract the users. Spanish tiles are usually higher priced than some other tiles, except Italian tiles. There are a lot of tiles which comes in from Spain, which seem to be produced for the super rich alone, how can you explain some tiles I have seen, which sell for as much as N40,000 for a single square meter, (it's not a typo )

Italian tiles

These share most of the characteristics of Spanish tiles, except that I cannot seem to understand the appeal of Italian tiles due to the lack of beautiful colors or designs. Italian tiles are usually a little more expensive than the Spanish tiles. But they are also rugged and will last for a long time before fading due to traffic.

Chinese tiles

Chinese manufacturers started aiming at this country when they found out the crazy demand for tiles here, their tiles are mostly mid range products and are good to use. Many Chinese tiles are cheaper than the Spanish or Italians, there is also the talk that some Chinese imported tiles are of a lower quality than even Nigerian made tiles. I also noticed the copy cat nature of our importers who will pick a design from Spain and move to China to produce same tiles and bring them in, and you can hardly spot the difference.

Nigerian tiles

As a result of the demand, some manufacturers brought in the equipment and knowhow and started making tiles here in Nigeria, before, it was of a lower quality and very light when lifted. The attraction seemed to be the cost, as Nigerian tiles were dirt cheap, compared to its foreign counterparts, but as time moved on, Nigerian tiles makers upped the ante, and now you can hardly differentiate the difference between Nigerian made tiles and the foreign ones. Nigerian tiles are now attracting better attention from users owing to the massive rise in the cost of the foreign tiles, because of the hike in foreign currency exchange rates. We are also copying the foreign designs. The Wood grain designs or the other popular styles are now available with the Nigerian made tiles.

Finally, tiles should be chosen based on the way it appeals to the owner of the house, because we are all different beings. There are people that buy stuff because it's costly, or because it's cheap. There are people who consider the beauty of the designs, while others consider the durability. But one thing is clear, a Nigerian tile can do the same job an expensive foreign tile did. And most people may never notice the difference.

u didn't address
Is durability an issue with Nigerian tiles?
Nigerian tiles easily scratches?
On the bathrooms walls and kitchens walls I am going to use Nigeria
But on the floor I am looking at durability and scratches

Granite?
Cement?
Sharp sand?
Iron rod?
Wood?
Vibrated Concrete Block?

Call Chekitaut
08055545355, 08032887233, 08025392536, 08098055224

GoodFaith:

u didn't address
Is durability an issue with Nigerian tiles?
Nigerian tiles easily scratches?
On the bathrooms walls and kitchens walls I am going to use Nigeria
But on the floor I am looking at durability and scratches

Wall tiles i give it to Nigeria, Floor tiles no guarantee depending on usage.

FastShipping:


955 sqm is not "kobo kobo" project sir.

Please whats your email?

Iron rods in market are not of standard, only Tiger & Pulkit, African steel and little few are fair enough to meet test.

The best way to protect it is use of Stonedust, Granite & Salt free water.

Lagos dredging sand is very dangerous is best use for block settings, report shows iron rod manufacturers used 80% scrap iron.

STOP HOUSE COLLAPSING NOW.

WorldAmbassador:
@toxxnoni. I got your mail, but the wrong kind. I was expecting a quote for constructing a 40-feet overhead water stand, instead what I got was several Real Estate ads.

Maybe it wasn't my email you read. I don't ads real estate.
My mail :Astrogeotech@yahoo.com
I will forward the quotation now

spyder880:


Although I have seen all the good responses by some of my friends here, but the the whole three problems could be linked to just one problem, the leaking roof. Metcoppo sheets are notorious for multiple leaks as a result of too many problems with its design. I have done more than 13 roofs with Metcoppo and had to return later and do correction to leaks later in about 11 of the houses. What I now do is a procedure we call "double lapping" this means we adjust the lapping of the sheets inwards, consuming more sheets than it would with other types like the long span sheets. Metcoppo also allows much leaks from gutters and ridges.

The leaking roof can still soak your window lower blocks if the leak is directly above a wall, and rain water is flowing into the blocks.

The parapet short cover could mean water running on the parapet will soak into any crack and still find its way into your walls, settling inside the lower window blocks.

To tell you to remove and refoof the whole house and this time applying "double lapping" method will be tough on the pockets. But since you are also complaining of the extension over the parapet being too short, I still see no way you can solve that one if not a complete re roof, buying a few more sheets to join this one. But first, get a roofer to climb up the roof and give you a good assessment of the problem.

For a better assessment, its better to climb in from the ceiling when it's raining.

Do aluminium steptile also have this leaking issue like metcoppo sir?