Odunharry:

Baba no one is arguing who is more successful.. Which team is the richest and has biggest fan base!?

The keyword that started this is "bigger" not richest or biggest fanbase!!

CapitalCee:

Better get out and go to your one team boring league. And don't forget to hand Ancelloti the list of the best players in each of the bundesliga team so he will cherry pick the ones he like.

A fan whose team just signed Lukaku from a fellow EPL club

In your club currently, Jones, Smalling, Valencia, Young, Fellaini, Carrick, Mata, Lukaku, Shaw

Tats about 10 players you bought from other EPL teams

Now this is a challenge, Show me 3 other big clubs in Europe that has 10 players currently in their team bought from their league

BTW a team with 20 league is bigger than a team with 33
A team with 3 CL bigger than a team with 12 CL

A team that finished 6th in the league bigger than a team who won the league, and won the CL back to back

You should find a way into comedy

raumdeuter:


Who told you Guardiola wanted to sign Alves? Going by the same logic we have like 10 players Guadiola wanted to sign already

If Guardiola wanted Alves he will pay for him

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/revealed-man-city-dani-alves-10780713

It's the wage difference and longer contract that stopped Alves from going to City. Its all there for you to read.

CapitalCee:


So in summary Real Madrid is not bigger than Manchester united. No credible football site or daily has termed Madrid as bigger than United.

And none has termed United bigger either

Lana1:
And none has termed United bigger either

Ofcourse. It's a major matter of opinion.

Lana1:
THis guy eh. U are trying so hard to be relevant.
This is Uefa's current rankings:

I guess City and Benfica are bigger than Chelsea and Bayer Leverkusen is bigger than United. For God's sake, go and pick up ur sense from wherever u dropped it and stop embarrassing urself

lekkie073:
The term ‘big club’ is given to a wide variety of clubs these days and opinions vary an awful lot on what makes a club bigger and better than any other, so I decided to take it upon myself to voice my own opinion on what makes a club ‘BIG’.
Silverware?
Silverware is no doubt a very important and meaningful statistic in football, but does it really decide which club is bigger than the other? I personally think no. If silverware (including historic success) decided the size of a club, then surely Leicester City would be considered bigger than numerous clubs in football today? From what I see fans across the globe use their title success (not taking away from the fact it was mission impossible) to back up their opinion on silverware making the size of a club better than any other. It is also mentioned fairly frequently that clubs such a Liverpool and Arsenal are no longer ‘big’ because, well, “what have they won in the past 10-15 years. So to put it plain and simple, no. I do not think silverware defines a ‘big club’.

The Players?
For sure, some clubs around Europe have some of the biggest and most popular talents in world football, but do the players on the pitch really define a club’s size? We see them come and go, whether they play for the shirt or for their prima donna egos. I certainly think that no player is bigger than any club and they do certainly not make a club’s size differ depending on their popularity and talent. One player who certainly fits the bill in that description is Tottenham Hostpur midifielder Moussa Sissoko. Last season, the Frenchman was undeniably a large factor into Newcastle’s fall down to the Championship. His performances on the pitch did not fill the Toon Faithful with joy and excitement, but more disappointment and anger, however it was his antics off the field that angered the fan base, as in many interviews over the Summer during the transfer window, he expressed his desire to leave Tyneside in search of Premier League & Champions League football.
Despite having that ‘rotten attitude’ he has been known to have over the past few years, he finally managed to seal a move to fit his profound qualities in Tottenham, although it is safe to say that his time in North London has not been as he thought. The midfielder has consistently been benched by Pochettino and has not particularly impressed when given a chance. Not only that, but since his departure, Newcastle have finally rewarded their loyal fans with what they deserve, in a young, hungry and passionate squad, which is no doubt leading them back to the Premier League; and remember, “It’s not about the name on the back of the shirt, but more the badge on the front.”

The Fans?
Finally, the fans. One category that seems to go under the radar is the backing of the fans for the club they love. Personally, I believe that what makes a club ‘big’ is the fans themselves. The reason for this is that, without the fans, the club is nothing. The fans ARE the club. Once, a great in the name of Sir Bobby Robson was once quoted on what a club truly is. It spoke volumes on how much the fans give to the club without the credibility most of them deserve. They stick with their side through thick and thin, through the biting cold of the winter and the sweltering heat in the Summer.
The fans are the ones who pay to go through the turnstiles and support their team no matter the results, they are the ones who pay for shirts, mugs etc to fund the club. Their wages, provide for new players to come and for others to leave. A club without any fans would not be anything, and what would be the purpose of that club then? Nothing. It may as well not exist. As stated before, players come and go, as do managers, but the fans stick by that club through everything and that is what makes a football club great. The fans. The size of the fan base, the better, and the size of the fan base, the bigger the club itself in my personal opinion.

So yes, to summarise I believe that it is the fans themselves that make a ‘big club’. As without them, the club would be nothing.




culled from the internet

The same Internet claims Arsenal has a bigger fanbase than Bayern....
Make of that what u will!!
http://www.totalsportek.com/list/most-popular-football-clubs/

Odunharry:

Baba no one is arguing who is more successful.. Which team is the richest and has biggest fan base!?

This is football the only thing that counts is success. Not who is richer. PSG is also richer than Juventus, Biggest fan base? Is that a criteria?

We should also start looking for who has the finest jersey too

These are examples of what you hang on to when you have failed miserably on the field

So if comparing students in a school, you will abandon their academic achievement and compare them based on who is richer and who is more popular

sinizia:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/revealed-man-city-dani-alves-10780713

It's the wage difference and longer contract that stopped Alves from going to City. Its all there for you to read.

Should I find link for you where Guardiola is also interested in Aubameyang to prove its right? or Bonnuci or Alaba or Javi Martinez, or Kimmich

sinizia:

I don tire for hensbrain's matter. He says the most absurd things. Even his fellow Chelsea fans dont take him serious. Yet he ll come here with some bullshít of being a football fan b4 a club fan blah blah blah....

raumdeuter:


This is football the only thing that counts is success. Not who is richer. PSG is also richer than Juventus, Biggest fan base? Is that a criteria?

We should also start looking for who has the finest jersey too

These are examples of what you hang on to when you have failed miserably on the field

So if comparing students in a school, you will abandon their academic achievement and compare them based on who is richer and who is more popular

For me, Madrid is bigger than Manchester United. Not just for this year but for many years. Currently, even Barcelona is bigger than United but we're bigger than them in the time past. Barcelona for the last 8 years have achieved unlimited success to be behind only Madrid as the second biggest team in the world. US being richer than Barca doesn't make us the bigger team PRESENTLY. but Depending on future success, we can still surpass them.

The fact that La Liga have only 2 major teams helps Madrid and Barca's course, though.

raumdeuter:


This is football the only thing that counts is success. Not who is richer. PSG is also richer than Juventus, Biggest fan base? Is that a criteria?

We should also start looking for who has the finest jersey too

These are examples of what you hang on to when you have failed miserably on the field

So if comparing students in a school, you will abandon their academic achievement and compare them based on who is richer and who is more popular

I guess your professor in university will tenaciously hold unto his academic Laurels if offered the chance to become Buhari whose validity of O level result is a subject of debate?

Real Madrid is not bigger than United. Period. They may be bigger than the one team league champions but not the club with the highest fanbase, worth and global reach and appeal.

raumdeuter:


Should I find link for you where Guardiola is also interested in Aubameyang to prove its right? or Bonnuci or Alaba or Javi Martinez, or Kimmich

But which of those players have openly flirted or talked about wanting to play for Guardiola in this transfer window? Alves in one of his interviews flirted with the idea of wanting to play for Guardiola.

sinizia:
For me, Madrid is bigger than Manchester United. Not just for this year but for many years. Currently, even Barcelona is bigger than United but we're bigger than them in the time past. Barcelona for the last 8 years have achieved unlimited success to be behind only Madrid as the second biggest team in the world. US being richer than Barca doesn't make us the bigger team PRESENTLY. but Depending on future success, we can still surpass them.

The fact that La Liga have only 2 major teams helps Madrid and Barca's course, though.

trophies are not the only criteria for how big a club is.

Lana1:
I don tire for hensbrain's matter. He says the most absurd things. Even his fellow Chelsea fans dont take him serious. Yet he ll come here with some bullshít of being a football fan b4 a club fan blah blah blah....

The last time I argued with him, I apologized to myself for wasting my time debating with him. It's a strenuous exercise. He always spew that bullshît whenever he's being exposed and brutally whooped. Bone that guy abeg.

CapitalCee:
trophies are not the only criteria for how big a club is.

Trophies is not the only criteria, Jersey size, number of fans, number of facebook likes are what natters not tophies

CapitalCee:


I guess your professor in university will tenaciously hold unto his academic Laurels if offered the chance to become Buhari whose validity of O level result is a subject of debate?

Real Madrid is not bigger than United. Period. They may be bigger than the one team league champions but not the club with the highest fanbase, worth and global reach and appeal.

Apples and oranges.

A football club main goal is to win. And not all the other criteria you are listing

Whether you agree or not Madrid is bigger than every team in EUrope

raumdeuter:


A fan whose team just signed Lukaku from a fellow EPL club

In your club currently, Jones, Smalling, Valencia, Young, Fellaini, Carrick, Mata, Lukaku, Shaw

Tats about 10 players you bought from other EPL teams

Now this is a challenge, Show me 3 other big clubs in Europe that has 10 players currently in their team bought from their league

BTW a team with 20 league is bigger than a team with 33
A team with 3 CL bigger than a team with 12 CL

A team that finished 6th in the league bigger than a team who won the league, and won the CL back to back

You should find a way into comedy

United alone don't cherry pick, if not we will simply go for hazard, Kante, Sanchez and Harry Kane. Bayern has hummels,gotze,Lewa and Neuer. Six teams can win EPL but in Germany on Bayern can even if it's Sunday Oliseh that coach them. Flopdiola will say hello!

CapitalCee:
trophies are not the only criteria for how big a club is.

Yes. In fact many criteria are involved including some of them which has been listed up there. That's why I said "as for me". Meaning personal opinion. Trophies alone can't be used because they're team with more trophies than United but they're not bigger than us. Present success alone doesn't cut it because they're teams that have won more trophies than us in the last 3 years but are not bigger than us. Many things are involved but for consistency over the years in terms of wealth, star footballers, global appeal, prestige, trophies, etc., Madrid is the biggest for me.

Even our crown jewels like Beckham and CR7 all left for Madrid. Many players will choose Madrid ahead of United more than those that will choose United over Madrid.


The competition of EPL doesn't help too in the sense that premier league rivals would rather sell to Barca or Madrid first than to other top EPL teams in other not to strengthen them. So Madrid end up getting top talents from both their leagues and outside.

raumdeuter:


Apples and oranges.

A football club main goal is to win. And not all the other criteria you are listing

Whether you agree or not Madrid is bigger than every team in EUrope

But United also wins trophies, it's not like they don't win trophies, the icing here is that they thumps every other club in every other thing. Hence the jealousy from all and sundry

raumdeuter:


A fan whose team just signed Lukaku from a fellow EPL club

In your club currently, Jones, Smalling, Valencia, Young, Fellaini, Carrick, Mata, Lukaku, Shaw

Tats about 10 players you bought from other EPL teams

Now this is a challenge, Show me 3 other big clubs in Europe that has 10 players currently in their team bought from their league

BTW a team with 20 league is bigger than a team with 33
A team with 3 CL bigger than a team with 12 CL

A team that finished 6th in the league bigger than a team who won the league, and won the CL back to back

You should find a way into comedy

Hahahahahahahaha..see finishing.

CapitalCee:


But United also wins trophies, it's not like they don't win trophies, the icing here is that they thumps every other club in every other thing. Hence the jealousy from all and sundry

Which trophies?

You have 3 CL Madrid has 12. 3 times 4 = 12

sinizia:


Yes. In fact many criteria are involved including some of them which has been listed up there. That's why I said "as for me". Meaning personal opinion. Trophies alone can't be used because they're team with more trophies than United but they're not bigger than us. Present success alone doesn't cut it because they're teams that have won more trophies than us in the last 3 years but are not bigger than us. Many things are involved but for consistency over the years in terms of wealth, star footballers, global appeal, prestige, trophies, etc., Madrid is ht biggest for me.

Even our crown jewels like Beckham and CR7 all left for Madrid. Many players will choose Madrid ahead of United more than those that will choose United over Madrid.


The competition of EPL doesn't help too in the sense that premier league rivals would rather sell to Barca or Madrid first than to other top EPL teams in other not to strengthen them. So Madrid end up getting top talents from both their leagues and outside.

you are intelligent. I agree

raumdeuter:




Now this is a challenge, Show me 3 other big clubs in Europe that has 10 players currently in their team bought from their league

Average players. While Madrid and Barca pick the best of the talents from both within and outside their league.

raumdeuter:


This is football the only thing that counts is success. Not who is richer. PSG is also richer than Juventus, Biggest fan base? Is that a criteria?

We should also start looking for who has the finest jersey too

These are examples of what you hang on to when you have failed miserably on the field

So if comparing students in a school, you will abandon their academic achievement and compare them based on who is richer and who is more popular

Hahahahahahha...see lecture 101. You dey form today oo

raumdeuter:


Which trophies?

You have 3 CL Madrid has 12. 3 times 4 = 12

We are saying the same thing. Trophies ooo Madrid get am but big ooo , no no

CapitalCee:


United alone don't cherry pick, if not we will simply go for hazard, Kante, Sanchez and Harry Kane. Bayern has hummels,gotze,Lewa and Neuer. Six teams can win EPL but in Germany on Bayern can even if it's Sunday Oliseh that coach them. Flopdiola will say hello!

Now this is a challenge, Show me 3 other big clubs in Europe that has 10 players currently in their team bought from their league

Show us any other team that has 10 players from their league in their current team

Man Utd is the ultimate predator

If we go into history and show how Man Utd cherry picked the best from the league. Rio, Cantona, RvP, Pallister, Yorke, Cole, Rooney, Roy Keane, thats almost another 10

Gotze is not in Bayern he is currently a Dortmund player

Just recently Bayern signed a player from Lyon and Madrid, Man Utd signed a player from EVerton from their league

sinizia:
Average players. While Madrid and Barca pick the best of the talents from both within and outside their league.

WHo cares, you chose who you wanted

sinizia:


Average players. While Madrid and Barca pick the best of the talents from both within and outside their league.

Don't mind him you can't do that in England that is why they have limited trophy success compared to those in Germany and Spain. Flopdiola is a good testament of that analogy

CapitalCee:


I guess your professor in university will tenaciously hold unto his academic Laurels if offered the chance to become Buhari whose validity of O level result is a subject of debate?

Real Madrid is not bigger than United. Period. They may be bigger than the one team league champions but not the club with the highest fanbase, worth and global reach and appeal.

Should we say PSG is bigger than Juve?

sinizia:


The last time I argued with him, I apologized to myself for wasting my time debating with him. It's a strenuous exercise. He always spew that bullshît whenever he's being exposed and brutally whooped. Bone that guy abeg.

You and Lana1 nor know ball..na the truth be that.0