Nihilist:


How did you ascertain the respective 'ceilings of the players?

You're training to be a doctor, not a carpenter.

In terms of capacity to improve, Lukaku has scored 16, 20, 25, and 26 goals in his 4 consecutive seasons...thats constant improvement....and now he's moved to a bigger team to play along better players who will undoubtedly create better quality chances for him, at a a higher volume too.

Morata on the other hand managed 9, 15, 12, and 20 goals over the same time period

Belloti did 10, 6, 12, and 28 in his last 4 seasons.

I don't know how you assessed these ceilings, but the logic ain't looking watertight to me.

guy take time oooo

PietroRico:
'Lukaku is dead to me'

Lukaku might be dead to Nihilist but his manhood lives on!

bigkesh:


Jose will never play Chalobah against United,City,Liverpool e.t c like Conte did

Jose will rather play Terry on wheelchair than play Ake in a FA cup game at Wembley

We had RLC,Chalobah,Ake and Kennedy on the pitch in one of our games, Jose will never do that


Did you just mention Courtois and Zouma??

The way he played Varane and Morata against Barca.
Santon against Manu

Greatihex:
where is the competition there.
Nathan's case is like that of a gladiator that is sent out to fight against three soldiers with sword without being given a sword.
Nathan did nt hv a sword to fight against fab and matic with swords, and you are bringing a bakayoko with another sword [£40m and UCL semifinal] for him to fight against. Where is the competition there?

chalobah don't need competition, he wants where he will be starting all the time. In Chelsea we don't guarantee that..

airmark:


But he tweeted good morning from Manchester. I hope he was trolling the manures.

Trolling.

Apparently our boy is at cobham

Chelsea no longer play Jam-body footy, they now play Jam-bone football - latest.

ToyinDipo:


The way he played Varane and Morata against Barca.
Santon against Manu

Rashford against every big team, De bruyne against man u. And moratta,varane,santon and Rashford started on these occasions while those guys he mentioned just had a cameo. Hypocrisy

CapitalCee:


Rashford against every big team, De bruyne against man u. And moratta,varane,santon and Rashford started on these occasions while those guys he mentioned just had a cameo. Hypocrisy

Anything to exonerate Lord Conte, lol.

ToyinDipo:
Chelsea no longer play Jam-body footy, they now play Jam-bone football - latest.

I prefer Jam bone with technique which Conte is building at SB. This is epl so strong bone with technique is welcome.

hensben:
I prefer Jam bone with technique which Conte is building at SB. This is epl so strong bone with technique is welcome.

Which technique, isn't it same counter attack?
Not even half as slick as what you played in the first half of 2014/15.

Prodigy4rii:




double standards sir.
Ake, Traore, Cholabah Sold.

Aina, Cheek loaned. Baker could be next.




Well, Emenalo doesn't want them

Solanke sold

For those asking or doubting, there is a buy-back clause on chalobah's sale

Prodigy4rii:
So which players go fill this HG quota?


Matic fit stay oo

How many is the HG quota? Matic isn't home grown same with Christensen that leaves Baker, Musonda, Pasalic i think.

ToyinDipo:

Which technique, isn't it same counter attack?
Not even half as slick as what you played in the first half of 2014/15.

If counter-attack will help us win ucl or do better than we did in ucl 2014/2015, fcck slick football.

lordfalcao:
Jose too can't pick youths to play Carling cup ND fa cup even if its against division 20.

Chelsea line-up vs Westham league cup 26/10/16.
Begovic; David Luiz, Terry (c), Cahill; Azpilicueta, Kante, Chalobah(Pedro), Aina(Hazard); Willian, Batshuayi(Costa), Oscar
Manager. Antonio conte


Walsall vs Chelsea. League Cup 25/9/2015.
Begovic Ivanovic, Terry,Cahill,Baba,Mikel,Loftus-Cheek(Maticat 72'),Ramires, Kenedy,Pedro,Remy,Falcao(Djilobodji)
Manager: Jose mourinho


So what are you saying this man?

airmark:


If counter-attack will help us win ucl or do better than we did in ucl 2014/2015, fcck slick football.

It's the team that wins that gets remembered.

ToyinDipo:

It's the team that wins that gets remembered.

Thats the point. Everyone remembers chelsea won ucl in 2012, nothing concerns anyone that barca dominated them with slick football at nou camp.

lordfalcao:
chalobah don't need competition, he wants where he will be starting all the time. In Chelsea we don't guarantee that..

bt, that is what a young player needs, playing time. The young player needs to show in the few chances given to him that he is exceptional. If he does nt prove exceptional at that point, then he has to go somewhere else and show his quality, then the club cn make an assessment.

pamcode:
How many is the HG quota? Matic isn't home grown same with Christensen that leaves Baker, Musonda, Pasalic i think.

At least 8 HG players in your squad.
Two must be trained by the club.

nateevs:



Mate, have some tea. WTF? On top one sentence?

Mr Man u wicked oh, I just burst into laughter in the midst of ppl, and they may be wondering is anything wrong?

Nihilist:


How did you ascertain the respective 'ceilings of the players?

You're training to be a doctor, not a carpenter.

In terms of capacity to improve, Lukaku has scored 16, 20, 25, and 26 goals in his 4 consecutive seasons...thats constant improvement....and now he's moved to a bigger team to play along better players who will undoubtedly create better quality chances for him, at a a higher volume too.

Morata on the other hand managed 9, 15, 12, and 20 goals over the same time period

Belloti did 10, 6, 12, and 28 in his last 4 seasons.

I don't know how you assessed these ceilings, but the logic ain't looking watertight to me.

morata have always played for a top team, competiting against top strikers in the game and yet have those numbers. Don't you think you shld put that into consideration? Oga nihilist.

Nihilist:


How did you ascertain the respective 'ceilings of the players?

You're training to be a doctor, not a carpenter.

In terms of capacity to improve, Lukaku has scored 16, 20, 25, and 26 goals in his 4 consecutive seasons...thats constant improvement....and now he's moved to a bigger team to play along better players who will undoubtedly create better quality chances for him, at a a higher volume too.

Morata on the other hand managed 9, 15, 12, and 20 goals over the same time period

Belloti did 10, 6, 12, and 28 in his last 4 seasons.

I don't know how you assessed these ceilings, but the logic ain't looking watertight to me.

Lukaku has been playing regular pro football for like 6 years now,that's enough for a striker to improve certain aspects of his game

Lukaku's link up play hasn't improved in 5 years now,it will never improve
His first touch?oops
His big game mentality? Ouch


Lukaku is not really 24,his career is more like a 27 year old already.... At 18,his agemates were playing U-19 youth games while he was bossing the Belgian league
He didn't even rot on the bench at Chelsea,he went on loans and added to his game

Morata didn't have that kind of opportunity.....If he adds Stamina and Power(a big "IF" that's why I called him a risk),there is no way Lukaku will stand him at 28

Drogba at 25 was scoring 9 league goals,and he didn't improve much in 2 seasons,how many of his mates that were banging in goals at that time could stand him at 29?

Morata scored 7 goals in the UCL knockout stages with Juventus in one season,Lukaku has 5 goals against the top 6 teams in 3 years


Lukaku is a finished product,Morata isn't...... Lukaku is more matured,but Morata gat the potential
There is a reason he was 1st on Jose and Conte's list



I know you believe only carpenters can hammer a point home,but surgeons are very versatile and good with their hands so permit me to hit this nail on your head.......Morata has more potential in his left boot than Lukaku's entire body

CapitalCee:


Chelsea line-up vs Westham league cup 26/10/16.
Begovic; David Luiz, Terry (c), Cahill; Azpilicueta, Kante, Chalobah(Pedro), Aina(Hazard); Willian, Batshuayi(Costa), Oscar
Manager. Antonio conte


Walsall vs Chelsea. League Cup 25/9/2015.
Begovic Ivanovic, Terry,Cahill,Baba,Mikel,Loftus-Cheek(Maticat 72'),Ramires, Kenedy,Pedro,Remy,Falcao(Djilobodji)
Manager: Jose mourinho


So what are you saying this man?

Chelsea played over 6 matches Carling cup and fa cup combine. Na this one you see? Show us matches against wolves and championship clubs..

Greatihex:
bt, that is what a young player needs, playing time. The young player needs to show in the few chances given to him that he is exceptional. If he does nt prove exceptional at that point, then he has to go somewhere else and show his quality, then the club cn make an assessment.

if chalobah is looking for regular playing time in a team like Chelsea with players like kante matic fabregas without been willing to fight, then he should leave..

7agaza:
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don't start what u can't finish pal

lordfalcao:
if chalobah is looking for regular playing time in a team like Chelsea with players like kante matic fabregas without been willing to fight, then he should leave..

na the best thing for am to do nah. He just cnt fight those guys. Currently, he has ntin on them.
He needs to pick those passes beta than fab to bench fab. He needs to play beta than kante to bench kante. Now, them dn dy bring baka for am. So, na em best option be that. RUN.

Greatihex:
where is the competition there.
Nathan's case is like that of a gladiator that is sent out to fight against three soldiers with sword without being given a sword.
Nathan did nt hv a sword to fight against fab and matic with swords, and you are bringing a bakayoko with another sword [£40m and UCL semifinal] for him to fight against. Where is the competition there?

Competition brings out the best in you, unless you are one who would shy away from it.

If Chalobah can't stay at the club to fight for his place, then he isn't good enough as we've been made to believe. If he can't stay to stake a claim in the League Cup, FA Cup and dead rubber games he'd feature, then he isn't good enough.

Debuchy was the first choice RB at Arsenal until Bellerin got a chance to steal the spot for life.

Casemiro joined Real in 2013 but had to wait till 2016 to cement his place in the team.

Just last season, Rashford had his chance and he took it, relegating big money buy, Martial and Uncle Young to the bench.

When did Nath even become Chelsea's level BTW?

A player who couldn't nail down a place at Napoli and host of low-level sides, is all of a sudden Chelsea level?

He was offered a deal, but the lad chose to chicken out. I can't be worried!

afrodoc2:


Lukaku might be dead to Nihilist but his manhood lives on!

lordfalcao:
Chelsea played over 6 matches Carling cup and fa cup combine. Na this one you see? Show us matches against wolves and championship clubs..

Nawaoo can you just be consistent my man, you posted this comment few moments ago? Or is it just a hyperbole?

lordfalcao:

Jose too can't pick youths to play Carling cup ND fa cup even if its against division 20.

I don't know the division Walsall was at that time but I know they are not a non-league side. So let say they are in league 2, that will be division 4. So he played youth against at least division 4 . Tell me it's a hyperbole bros

hensben:
We have fab, Kante, matic and Baka in that midfield position, two cm and two Dm depending on the formation.

Kai If Mourinho already won first leg and have this midfield in a 2nd leg encounter against Barca or Real Madrid in UCL.

Na to pack bus use Matic and Baka DM, kon put Fabregas and Kante at their front to dey disturb, with a lone rugged striker. Conceding will be so hard for us. Lol

Griffon:


Competition brings out the best in you, unless you are one who would shy away from it.

If Chalobah can't stay at the club to fight for his place, then he isn't good enough as we've been made to believe. If he can't stay to stake a claim in the League Cup, FA Cup and dead rubber games he'd feature, then he isn't good enough.

Debuchy was the first choice RB at Arsenal until Bellerin got a chance to steal the spot for life.

Casemiro joined Real in 2013 but had to wait till 2016 to cement his place in the team.

Just last season, Rashford had his chance and he took it, relegating big money buy, Martial and Uncle Young to the bench.

When did Nath even become Chelsea's level BTW?

A player who couldn't nail down a place at Napoli and host of low-level sides, is all of a sudden Chelsea level?

He was offered a deal, but the lad chose to chicken out. I can't be worried!

I said this last season, but I was meant to believe it was politics at the main club he visited that couldn't hand him a shirt..