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Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by Nobody: 7:36am On Jul 29, 2017 |
Guys, this new kotlin development has been giving some of us serious concerns. Yes, before you ask me, I can write kotlin at a beginners level. No, I will not use it yet for an android app (or any project). I know it is a great development and all that, and it really rocks. Okay, here is why - I code in many languages on demand, let us look at a scenario: My life span in XCODE / IOS development is 3 years, and I will explain: - 2014: I bought a MAC and started learning objective-c which was the main thing for writing IOS then, it was even the default language for XCODE. - 2015: I had a project to do, and saw that the default was now swift, so I learn swift (cant remember version), and was happy. After that, no IOS till now 2017: I was ready for another IOS project, lo and behold the swift I knew was outdated, it is now swift 3, so I upgraded myself a bit painfully (because all the EBA I have chopped have made my head heavy), and finally kick-started the project, BUT NO WAY, the team I was working with only knew OBJECTIVE-C which I have left since 2014, So I had to relearn it again for the project (and now I have not touched swift since o). Now I cannot even beat my chest and say I can write swift again, I have been reduced back to a swift NOOB, I cannot even write hello world without looking at book in swift again (Or even CODE and outlet right-of-my-head). Now, dont forget - I am a cross-platform developer, my next project might be C# or PHP, you never can tell. With all this drama now, Android now introduced KOTLIN again? On top of all the wahala wey man dey face? Some people are stills scared of OOP PHP, some are afraid of PHP 7. All these wahala too dey tire person, I think I will soon drop title as professional and downgrade myself back to NOOB. So what are the views of you guys on all these matters with special emphasis on Kotlin / JAVA? 2 Likes |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by badthinds: 8:46am On Jul 29, 2017 |
Well, sometimes I think its for the betterment of their services (eg. IOS apps, Android Apps etc) and other times, I feel its political. Anyway, sometimes I feel lazy to gulp another language...but I get excited if it becomes compulsory...any android developer, right now should begin to gulp KOTLIN at all cost. The good is that, I increase my vocabulary!!! dhtml18, have you thought of dropping a KOTLIN for android tutorial here? e go make sense na. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by Nobody: 12:51pm On Jul 29, 2017 |
KOTLIN for android tutorial eh? I think a migration from java/android to kotlin/android will be better. I will keep this in mind, right now a lot of coding is going down here, enough to drown a fish! 1 Like |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by logicalhumour: 4:04pm On Jul 29, 2017 |
dhtml18: Lol. But for the migration tutorial, I havnt seen any on nairaland...it would make sense. |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by TeejayMaya(m): 7:50pm On Jul 29, 2017 |
You are not alone bro, same here... But we just have to keep trying to meet up and always catch up with the latest thread. dhtml18: |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by Nobody: 8:02pm On Jul 29, 2017 |
The thing no easy at all, it is battle to the end! |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by Olyboy16(m): 8:54pm On Jul 29, 2017 |
already adding tornadofx to my java portfolio, the android part will come in naturally. i think its important for people trying to migrate to take some fun time with kotlin, play around a bit develop some small cmd apps then the android transition comes in naturally. its a new language remember? and damn its a really good java relief. technically though, its still java under the hood, except for a few optimizations. e.g lambdas in kotlin generated byte code are compiled not preprocessed as before; also in kotlin, instead of the java way of active object evaluation, which usally causes the famous nullpointer exceptions, kotlin does lazy evaluation with the help of its nice syntax; this not only eliminates chances of a 3500 threads server breaking due to object evaluation in threads issues, it also makes kotlin bytecode way faster! even beyond android, kotlin is amazing... |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by seunny4lif(m): 12:12am On Jul 30, 2017 |
Olyboy16:Please me ooooh I know basic of Java and i just started learning Android App. Now people are talking about Kotlin for Android. Should i stop the Android tutorial and go learn Kotlin? |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by seunny4lif(m): 12:14am On Jul 30, 2017 |
badthinds:Which one is Kotlin again ? I just finished Java and just started learning Android development Kotlin again ? |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by Nobody: 7:29am On Jul 30, 2017 |
Guys, I tire for the android folks o, na kotlin now o!! |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by Olyboy16(m): 8:02am On Jul 30, 2017 |
seunny4lif:Yes! but only if your primary reason for learning java is to make android apps. else, you should learn both if you need java for other uses. Another reason to learn kotlin is that its JS transpilation will make it ideal for a cross platform language; so its only a matter of time for it to compete with xamarin considering the massive support its getting; and the power of the jetbrains platform. |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by seunny4lif(m): 8:12am On Jul 30, 2017 |
Olyboy16:I started the tutorial on Kotlin just 3 hours ago And it's more cool than Java but it look like python a little bit and also Java on the other side. It's a mixed of Java and Python ![]() I like to work as an Android and Java developer but I want Android first |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by seunny4lif(m): 8:12am On Jul 30, 2017 |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by talk2hb1(m): 8:58am On Jul 30, 2017 |
seunny4lif:If this is your first programming language, continue learning java. You can use your java skill for web application programming and other stuffs, then learn Kotlin later, programming language skills are easily transfarrable. |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by seunny4lif(m): 9:06am On Jul 30, 2017 |
talk2hb1:Thanks I know basic of Java at least till multithread I think. I find the Kotlin much easier ![]() I will like to go for Mobile Application I have be Watching the tutorial video of Kotlin and i find it cool |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by Olyboy16(m): 11:45am On Jul 30, 2017 |
seunny4lif:cool, thats some real geek spirit you've got. you'll get used to the syntax bro; safe journey! |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by seunny4lif(m): 11:59am On Jul 30, 2017 |
Olyboy16:Thanks I'm enjoying it |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by Nobody: 1:09pm On Jul 30, 2017 |
Everyone that has tried KOTLIN will come to that conclusion within a short time that it is cooler and easier than JAVA. 3 Likes |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by Nobody: 6:08pm On Jul 30, 2017 |
Going for Kotlin ASAP ![]() |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by seunny4lif(m): 9:32pm On Jul 30, 2017 |
dhtml18:I dey one of them Kotlin needs no {} hello world in Java is 7 lines ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Kotlin is just 3 lines ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() and since i can import from Java then no problem 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by seunny4lif(m): 9:34pm On Jul 30, 2017 |
kayoph: Just type Kotlin of Youtube but i find this guy tutorial good No null pointer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Org0vh-VSgA&list=PLsyeobzWxl7rooJFZhc3qPLwVROovGCfh 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by SHOPPERS(m): 5:32pm On Aug 05, 2017 |
Guys, pls I am a complete newbie, what will you advise I start with for android development pls?? |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by Nobody: 11:44am On Aug 06, 2017 |
yes of course, you can kickstart android dev immediately. |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by seunny4lif(m): 3:31pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
SHOPPERS:Start with Java for Android development Kotlin is good but not some many tutorial on YouTube |
Re: Kotlin / JAVA For Android Development by Nobody: 3:44pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Yes, even me sef, na JAVa i still dey use. |
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