Joebie:
Anybody who knows me very well knows that i'm far from being sentimental in any giving topic. That said, I've never been a fan of Emenike, especially when he was donning the green white green. But the problem is, even at this moment we do not have a stand out forward besides Iheanacho and Moses. And I mean based on what they have shown on the pitch for SE. You make it seem like the youngsters are clearly ahead. If they really were, I would not even mention Emenike.

Modified
Overtime I would love to see the likes of Nura, Musa Yahaya, and even Sadiq Umar. Joel Obi as well. But the changes should be gradual

TheGoodJoe:


This is not about better as in, better striker but the strategy we should adopt against Cameroun. The term I used is run riot. I do not see Emenike fitting that picture. In that term, I can think the players I want in camp.

Iheanacho, Victor Moses, Etebo, Onyekuru, Aluko, Simon Moses, Isaac Success, Ahmed Musa

Mikel and Ndidi is in midfield due to discipline and positioning but Onazi has a big case because he perfectly fits the run riot picture. Hope he stays discipline from now.

Emenike does not fit.

TheGoodJoe:


Alves played in the Champions League final. He I one of the best players in the World today. Ibrahimovic had a brilliant season with Manchester United and was brilliant at PSG before joining Manchester United. One of the top players in the game today. Defoe was brilliant in the just concluded EPL. Highly respected.

Do not make Osaze and Emenike in that category. Osaze, Emenike will not start in any of the teams this guy's play/played for recently.

Joebie:
I categorically said I would like an Emenike-Iheanacho partnership, and you guys were calling for my head. Emenike brings speed, physicality and also good assists -- remember 2014 world cup. He also brings international experience.

This suggestion is particularly for the Cameroon encounter. Because for me Iheanacho is the untouchable as support striker.

Who else would you rather pair with Iheanacho? Kayode, Bonaventure, Osihmen, Ighalo? mention and state your reasons with stats like I did.. That's how to have healthy discussion.

It's a discussion. No need to call people names please

Joebie:
Burton currently lead Leicester City 1-0. Thanks to Hope Akpan (finished?).

Musa is on. Ndidi in bench.

Leicester City‏Verified account @LCFC 12m12 minutes ago
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Bright from #lcfc so far. Musa's pace has caused a couple of problems. We'd love to see him race Lloyd Dyer on the opposite flank! #BtnLei

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Burton strike first �

Akins lofts a ball to Akpan at the far post, who heads it back across goal and into the bottom corner. #BtnLei

Humility017:

what will you say about my stance on osaze issue...then?
I don't like him also.....right?

Mickael2:


Simple, just say it plain and direct, you do not like Osaze and you don't want him in the Super Eagles. Don't come up with baseless reasons why he shouldn't be invited.

Mickael2:


Nope, you are giving serious reasons why he does not deserve to be there, you are not just saying you don't want to see a player named Osaze in the team, I have no issues with your own

safarigirl:
in this current set up, I don't want to see Osaze anywhere near the team.

I liked Osaze in the other teams, with men his age, I wouldn't want Osaze in this team. We don't need Indonesian league players, we are not that desperate.

junnyjake:
I thought we've moved on from our loss against SA?

We had every right to brag about our ability before that game, that's no arrogance,

We had the quality in our squad, we had confidence in their individual abilities and that is in no way, we trying to overestimate our strengths or over hype our players as many would have it.

What we lacked was a cohesive force in the team. Even without Ikeme, Mikel, Moses, Balogun, we could have won them easily, it's not as if they were too threatening with their attacking.

With the reports we had from the training camp, John Ogu regularly played at Centre back. This was just one out of the many experiments Rohr pulled off with the limited time he had with the players at camp and the friendly games we played.


Everyone of the players fielded that day was quality and if each of them played with the discipline required of them at the roles assigned to them then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

edi287:
Obafemi Martins is the only veteran player I'd consider bringing back. I like Osaze, but I don't see where he'd fit in.

Joebie:
Warri go say, players when fit worry like tse-tse fly. I feel you my brother.

It will depend on strategy oh. because sometimes Musa wayward oh. na just to run run. Even Success can worry, but at the end we will need someone to deliver. Moses Simon hmmmm. there are few suspects there. But truth is they will still make the team. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

komekn:

Quality is relative and in this context ambiguous, quality by what measurement comparative to what. Most of out playera are not top quality.

They are not playing in top leagues and or top clubs. Furthermore a good number of them are reserve team bench warmers.

You are stretching the meaning of the word quality.

If we are realistic, we will have realistic expectations and institute a strategic plan to get the best out of our good players.

Joebie:
In this country of 1001 opinions how could you be shocked? If Osaze is called and he gets the nod to start, then that means his 13 goals in the Indonesian league is not a fluke. There is no cause for alarm. Like I said earlier our talk here is barely noticed by those in the helm of affairs. Free speech is permitted.

Icon4s:


Yes. You are right.

They are just talks and also wishes.

But let me state one fact. That team is not lacking in quality to compete at this level.

Is it not the same team that beat Zambia in Ndola and the highly talented Algerian team in Uyo?

What was the difference against SA? Key senior players were not present. The team lacked a leader.

With the return of Mikel, Moses and Balogun you'll see the real strength of that team.

All these panic calls here and there are not necessary IMHO.

We just hope our key senior players will be back for the next game. The team is in transition and this transition should not be truncated because of just one loss.

Icon4s:


Yes. You are right.

They are just talks and also wishes.

But let me state one fact. That team is not lacking in quality to compete at this level.

Is it not the same team that beat Zambia in Ndola and the highly talented Algerian team in Uyo?

What was the difference against SA? Key senior players were not present. The team lacked a leader.

With the return of Mikel, Moses and Balogun you'll see the real strength of that team.

All these panic calls here and there are not necessary IMHO.

We just hope our key senior players will be back for the next game. The team is in transition and this transition should not be truncated because of just one loss.

jimmyiovine:
Medical passed. Announcement in next 24 hours

Joebie:
My last take on the calls for the oldies. Consider this scenario.

You are a new manager of the Super Eagles with no one to tell you which player is good or bad, or who have performed wonderfully well or badly in the past. With no knowledge of ANY Nigerian player. All you have is internet connection, and a wonderful database website, and of course youtube. And your most concern is recent statistics with videos. Who would you pick? Which players will make your first squad announcement?
Depends on the goals you were brought in to achiev. Build a team for the future or immediate results?

With this scenario, I have cut out the possibility of sentiments. Let's see if our opinions will change.

Joebie:
IF this IF that. They outplayed us. They could have scored 4 on that day (they hit the bar twice). We should have scored one, but they missed several. They had way more chances. Let's call a spade a spade.

junnyjake:


Why were we outplayed??



The team we assembled against SA was good enough to beat them.

Even with Mikel, Moses and CO in the team, we played what we played against SA - playing without purpose then the Cameroonians would have it easy dealing with us.

Joebie:
okay good. Firstly, what we do is say what happened in the match -- match report -- We were outplayed (FACT). Secondly, we ask why did Nigeria do badly? was it because we did not have quality in the team? Was it because of our tactics? or a combination of both? Thirdly, What did SA do right? In other words why did they win? Was it because of quality in the team, or match tactics or a combination of both?

if we do it this way, we will have a balanced analysis.

So if your argument is that we had a team that was capable of beating SA. Then you will agree with me that it was our tactics. My earliest position on why we failed, which I still hold is that we lost the match at the midfield. The roles were not spelt out despite having midfielder who were all good in their own right.

Modified.
Why did SA win. They had a match strategy coming to the came. The executed it perfectly -- tactics