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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:52am On Aug 05, 2017
Icon4s:


Meaning we play 4-4-2. But Rohr typically plays 4-2-3-1. That lone striker system.

I think we will later switch to a 4-4-2 formation. If Osimhen develops as I think, then that will be the best option for us. However if we must play a 4-2-3-1 formation and Osimhen develops fast, Nacho can play in the middle 3 but with freedom to attack at will with Osimhen up top.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:53am On Aug 05, 2017
maidaboi:
you got this from cybereagles
whats your moniker there sir

I am not a member there. Just a guest once in a while to get more opinions concerning trending issues.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 7:00am On Aug 05, 2017
I would have to say I really respect the Goodjoe. He tries to put forward his point by pasting references even if he is wrong. He tries to paste references. People can learn a bit from his style of arguement. Goodjoe let this iheanacho issue rest
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:04am On Aug 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I think we will later switch to a 4-4-2 formation. If Osimhen develops as I think, then that will be the best option for us. However if we must play a 4-2-3-1 formation and Osimhen develops fast, Nacho can play in the middle 3 but with freedom to attack at will with Osimhen up top.

I have modified the post you quoted me from. please go through it again.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:06am On Aug 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I think we will later switch to a 4-4-2 formation. If Osimhen develops as I think, then that will be the best option for us. However if we must play a 4-2-3-1 formation and Osimhen develops fast, Nacho can play in the middle 3 but with freedom to attack at will with Osimhen up top.

So Osimhen's development should be the only factor that will determine if we switch to 4-4-2 or not?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:22am On Aug 05, 2017
Icon4s:


Meaning we play 4-4-2. But Rohr typically plays 4-2-3-1. That lone striker system.

In 4-4-2 the team typically doesn't have a number 10.
This can be problematic if the Midfielders are not creative and imposing on the game enough. it will leave the two strikers stranded. This may cause the coach to instruct one of the two strikers to fall deep which means switching back to 4-5-1 thereby having a number 10.

But if we have very mobile, creative and imposing CM, we may not necessarily need a number 10 and so 4-4-2 may fly.

So the formation you adopt largely depends on the strength and potentials of your team.

The 94 Eagles never had a 'number 10'. The creativity Oliseh and Okocha brought were enough to keep our strikers busy. Like Oliseh's long balls always finding Yekini. Okocha, apart from his magic skills, had excellent vision and passing ability. So Yekini and Amokachi had plenty of the balls.

But do we have a DM and CM in the modes of Oliseh and Okocha presently in the team?

I am at the moment okay with Mikel, Ndidi partnership in midfield. I think we can get creativity and Discipline with this pair. With Osimhen up top, Nacho's free role can link the midfield to the point man.

A lot depends on Osimhen hitting it fast.

__________________Osimhen (CF)
__________________Nacho (SS)
__Onyekuru (LMF)_______________Victor Moses (RMF)
______________________Mikelele (CMF)
___________________Ndidi (DMF)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:27am On Aug 05, 2017
Icon4s:


So Osimhen's development should be the only factor that will determine if we switch to 4-4-2 or not?

It is a case of us having a balanced lethal team. If Osimhen is not ready then I say we maintain the 4-2-3-1 until then. Not yet sold on Kayode because I have not watched him closely to assign such responsibility.

_____________________Nacho (CF)
_____________________Mikelele (AMF)
__Onyekuru (LMF)_____________________Victor Moses (RMF)
________________________Etebo (CMF/DMF)
____________________Ndidi (DMF)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:37am On Aug 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I am at the moment okay with Mikel, Ndidi partnership in midfield. I think we can get creativity and Discipline with this pair. With Osimhen up top, Nacho's free role can link the midfield to the point man.

A lot depends on Osimhen hitting it fast.

__________________Osimhen (CF)
__________________Nacho (SS)
__Onyekuru (LMF)_______________Victor Moses (RMF)
______________________Mikelele (CMF)
___________________Ndidi (DMF)
I am not quite comfortable wit ndidi pairing mikel....the dude is fast becoming so offensive minded...he can leave the midfield exposed.....
I will prefer.....mikel agu or onazi....
to be honest....except ndidi is cautioned to stay out at the midfield and shed the defenders
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:39am On Aug 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


It is a case of us having a balanced lethal team. If Osimhen is not ready then I say we maintain the 4-2-3-1 until then. Not yet sold on Kayode because I have not watched him closely to assign such responsibility.

_____________________Nacho (CF)
_____________________Mikelele (AMF)
__Onyekuru (LMF)_____________________Victor Moses (RMF)
________________________Etebo (CMF/DMF)
____________________Ndidi (DMF)
how about the availability of other strikers....like dressiers, kayode, even success and lot's more
oshimen shouldn't be the reason to switch formation....we have got good players that will fit into the manager's philosophy any day anytime
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:40am On Aug 05, 2017
Humility017:

I am not quite comfortable wit ndidi pairing mikel....the dude is fast becoming so offensive minded...he can leave the midfield exposed.....
I will prefer.....mikel agu or onazi....
to be honest....except ndidi is cautioned to stay out at the midfield and shed the defenders

I agree on Ndidi playing offensively and I am also not comfortable with it. I feel he is playing to instructions and I have seen him sit in a tidy fashion at the back also. However, Ndidi is less a risk in shielding the defence than Onazi who on lots of occasions leave us exposed at the back.

There is big case for Mikel Agu.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:42am On Aug 05, 2017
Humility017:

how about the availability of other strikers....like dressiers, kayode, even success and lot's more
oshimen shouldn't be the reason to switch formation....we have got good players that will fit into the manager's philosophy any day anytime

Osimhen's menacing style draws confidence from me than most of our other strikers including Iheanacho. Not sold on the others and I am yet to see Success play a full game in that role for the responsibility.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:42am On Aug 05, 2017
tbaba1234:
Bazee out again for 3 months.

Iheanacho with an assist
I just don't know why all our German players...are so prone to injuries....these guy is just 20 an he is being infested wit injuries like this...I wish him quick recovery though...I just want us to cap him even if it is just 1 minute so as to secure his international allegiance

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:48am On Aug 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I agree on Ndidi playing offensively and I am also not comfortable with it. I feel he is playing to instructions and I have seen him sit in a tidy fashion at the back also. However, Ndidi is less a risk in shielding the defence than Onazi who on lots of occasions leave us exposed at the back.

There is big case for Mikel Agu.
please....leave ndidi. the guy has grown to believe...he can shot and score from anywhere hence the need for him always going upfront...I don't really believe it stems from Shakespeare instructions...though the
coach seems to be comfortable wit it...
mikel agu I believe can offer something onazi lacks...he should be tried in that role with mikel for just one match and let's see how he plays...he is a better passer of the ball compared to onazi and also good in tackles and tends sit deep in the midfield role...better
these young stars should be given a chance also the likes of olayinka and Dennis...hopefully we qualify before the Algeria game....they can get to play likewise dressiers (the belgian)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:54am On Aug 05, 2017
safarigirl:
Ndidi also had a great game, got quite a number of accolades for his performance last night. He's turning out to be an excellent midfielder.

Hopefully, he and Kelechi will build an understanding playing together this season....I'm glad a good number of our players will be actively involved in games this season and we won't have to worry about match fitness
I tell you....more importantly it is the season prior the World cup tourney....
hopefully those in Belgium and Germany keep getting regular play time..and to think that the likes of success,oshimen,Dennis,olayinka,bazee ,aina,ebuehi,ndidi,nacho,awaziem, iwobi, troost,Moses Simon,kalu etc are all below the age of 24 makes it more exciting.....
bunch of young lads...wit huge potentials
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:57am On Aug 05, 2017
i dont think England is really fair to these 20 world cup winning team....
seyi ojo
onomah
ejaria
all got loaned I think to championship side...
after posing a 5 star performance in just concluded under 20 world cup.....
well that will make them have a rethink of pledging their allegiance to Nigeria as 3 lion's shirt will now be difficult to comeby

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:05am On Aug 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I am at the moment okay with Mikel, Ndidi partnership in midfield. I think we can get creativity and Discipline with this pair. With Osimhen up top, Nacho's free role can link the midfield to the point man.

A lot depends on Osimhen hitting it fast.

__________________Osimhen (CF)
__________________Nacho (SS)
__Onyekuru (LMF)_______________Victor Moses (RMF)
______________________Mikelele (CMF)
___________________Ndidi (DMF)

I am sorry to say, Osimhen is not at that level yet.

And by the time Osimhen may get to that level Mikel may not be as effective as he is now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:08am On Aug 05, 2017
Humility017:
i dont think England is really fair to these 20 world cup winning team....
seyi ojo
onomah
ejaria
all got loaned I think to championship side...
after posing a 5 star performance in just concluded under 20 world cup.....
well that will make them have a rethink of pledging their allegiance to Nigeria as 3 lion's shirt will now be difficult to comeby

I don't get your point here.

So they should get automatic places in EPL teams and probably the 3 Lions?

It is only in Africa that we over-rate our achievements at these youth competitions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 8:42am On Aug 05, 2017
Joebie:
I'm sure you havn't seen the pitch lately


I have the pitch is still in decent shape, that's where the CHAN eagles are camping. besides Kano is one of the few standard pitches in the NPFL
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 10:06am On Aug 05, 2017
Mickael2:



poor poor analysis.

First of all spending money does not mean winning titles, so when Pep wins titles don't come here and tell us that he bought the title, case study- Real Madrid. Years and years of Galacticos, only one league title and no champions league, then they started grooming their young academy players and guess what? B2B champions league titles. So that is a poor analogy really.

Second, Man City's backling before Pep came was calamity Hart, Kompany, Mangala, Clichy/Sagna, Kolarov. Apart from Kompany, who else is world class there? So which world class team did he inherit? Not to mention that these guys are above 30, almost all of them anyways. The midfield? A 32 year old Toure is the main guy in the midfield, not that he is bad, far from it but at his age, he should be an integral part yes but not the main focal point. Then you have Aguero in attack, I always said he isn't world class and Pep came and I guess he saw the light too, so yes Man City needed a complete overhaul
Well said.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:02am On Aug 05, 2017
I don't think Osimhen is ready. The potential is certainly there but he is not ready.

From what i have seen from pre season, Sadiq Umar is more ready than Osimhen.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:35pm On Aug 05, 2017
safarigirl:
The Iheanacho-Vardy partnership promises to be lethal





I'm loving this already.

No be like when him go score goal, them go come leave only am de celebrate.

I'm hoping to see something special this season with that partnership.

Something like Ighalo-Deeney

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:40pm On Aug 05, 2017
Assuming I'm not mixing things up, the pitch pillars played in when thy beat Rivers lately was waterlogged, with overgrown grasses. . Are we speaking of the same one?
Danycrusoe:


I have the pitch is still in decent shape, that's where the CHAN eagles are camping. besides Kano is one of the few standard pitches in the NPFL
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by rukygbas: 12:40pm On Aug 05, 2017
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:46pm On Aug 05, 2017
Ejaria want loaned. Solanke got signed Liveepool. What has it got to do with England?

Humility017:
i dont think England is really fair to these 20 world cup winning team....
seyi ojo
onomah
ejaria
all got loaned I think to championship side...
after posing a 5 star performance in just concluded under 20 world cup.....
well that will make them have a rethink of pledging their allegiance to Nigeria as 3 lion's shirt will now be difficult to comeby
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:51pm On Aug 05, 2017
Osimhen is a 9. If he doesn't score goals we won't take him too seriously.
TheGoodJoe:


Osimhen's menacing style draws confidence from me than most of our other strikers including Iheanacho. Not sold on the others and I am yet to see Success play a full game in that role for the responsibility.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:58pm On Aug 05, 2017
Humility017:

please....leave ndidi. the guy has grown to believe...he can shot and score from anywhere hence the need for him always going upfront...I don't really believe it stems from Shakespeare instructions...though the
coach seems to be comfortable wit it...
mikel agu I believe can offer something onazi lacks...he should be tried in that role with mikel for just one match and let's see how he plays...he is a better passer of the ball compared to onazi and also good in tackles and tends sit deep in the midfield role...better
these young stars should be given a chance also the likes of olayinka and Dennis...hopefully we qualify before the Algeria game....they can get to play likewise dressiers (the belgian)


I watched Portugal in the confederations cup, the performance of one player caught my eye and that was William Cavalho in the midfield.

He keeps everything simple as a shield to the defense, always available for cover. He showed discipline.

I was watching and hoping we had someone with such quality in our team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 1:03pm On Aug 05, 2017
tbaba1234:
I don't think Osimhen is ready. The potential is certainly there but he is not ready.

From what i have seen from pre season, Sadiq Umar is more ready than Osimhen.

I'd rather we try out Cyriel dessers before any of them. His performance last season trumps theirs by any definition.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bossto(m): 1:16pm On Aug 05, 2017
This formation,4-4-2 really suits KC's style of play,but honestly i don't fancy it because firstly i see it as an old-fashioned.Secondly,we have got many WFs..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 1:30pm On Aug 05, 2017
Joebie:
Assuming I'm not mixing things up, the pitch pillars played in when thy beat Rivers lately was waterlogged, with overgrown grasses. . Are we speaking of the same one?
I don't think we are speaking of the same pitch. kano is artificial so there is no case of overgrown grasses though it may gt water logged maybe u are talking of rivers stadium in port Harcourt
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:26pm On Aug 05, 2017
junnyjake:


I'd rather we try out Cyriel dessers before any of them. His performance last season trumps theirs by any definition.

Dessers scored all those goals in a lower division. I would rate Sadiq above him based on what i have seen of pre season. Sadiq needs a full season next year, maybe with a lower club.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:32pm On Aug 05, 2017
@Uzohof.. Francis Uzoho twitter

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:16pm On Aug 05, 2017
Nigerians in competitive action today.

Ola Aina
Awoniyi
Aluko

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