Rossikki:


Nsibidi is an ideographic and logographic writing script, not ''artwork''', and you are wrong to claim that ''Igbo society was illiterate''. They had Nsibidi. Thousands of people were literate in it.

''Nsibidi is a system of symbols indigenous to what is now southeastern Nigeria that is apparently an ideographic script, though there have been suggestions that it includes logographic elements. The symbols are at least several centuries old—early forms appeared on excavated pottery as well as what are most likely ceramic stools and headrests from the Calabar region, with a range of dates from 400 to 1400 CE.

There are thousands of nsibidi symbols, of which over 500 have been recorded. They were once taught in school to children. Many of the signs deal with love affairs; those that deal with warfare and the sacred are kept secret. Nsibidi is used on wall designs, calabashes, metals (such as bronze), leaves, swords, and tattoos. It is primarily used by the Ekpe leopard secret society (also known as Ngbe or Egbo), which is found across Cross River among the Ekoi, Efik, Igbo people, and other nearby peoples.

Outside knowledge of nsibidi came in 1904 when T. D. Maxwell noticed the symbols. Before the British colonisation of the area, nsibidi was divided into a sacred version and a public, more decorative version which could be used by women. Aspects of colonisation such as Western education and Christian doctrine drastically reduced the number of nsibidi-literate people, leaving the secret society members as some of the last literate in the symbols. Nsibidi was and is still a means of transmitting Ekpe symbolism. Nsibidi was transported to Cuba and Haiti via the Atlantic slave trade, where it developed into the anaforuana and veve symbols.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nsibidi


NSIBIDI SCRIPT

It's weird the very link you posted supports exactly what I said: that it was a mostly decorative system which as an actual codified system of broad language expression and literature, was extremely limited. And you think that is a rebuttal of my point? Perhaps, read your own link again. Then also come back and show me examples of Nsibidi literature. I'll wait.

CryptoCoinr:


And finally, those frauds claim the Greek word "Genesis" is Hebraic which is categorically false claim.

Not a single one of the "Meaning"-s of Hebrew in the attached image below is true or close to true. Not a single one but the frauds, I repeat, frauds known as zenmaster and millionaireman want to claim so. Those are the nitwits that claim to be offering Southern Nigeria a better deal by joining the DOA "Biafra".

Not all of them are wrong when you look at the context around them. I speak Hebrew so I know that "lion" is "ariah" but "ben gur ha-ariah shel yehudah" is used to mean "lion of the tribe of Judah" or something to that effect. It means cub, usually lion cub, but how do we know that the meaning could've been altered over time? It happens quite often with languages.

As for the name "Ada", note that it means much more than "first daughter" in Igbo, that's just the literal meaning. The fact is that it's a name in Hebrew and it's a name in Igbo.

Also, I'm surprised that that dictionary didn't bring up the Hebrew word for to go up, which is "oleh" (he/you masc go up) and the Igbo word "elu" which means high. I've always found that to be interesting.

I also don't believe that the Hebrew that Gad spoke is the same as modern Hebrew or even some of the more recent examples of ancient Hebrew as the former is definitely influenced by German, French, Arabic, English etc whilst the latter would've likely been heavily influenced by Aramaic.

MadCow1:


Lol.. Upset with a story that has no proof? Seriouly Darling, you must be taking my Moniker literally.


And yes Jesus was a Jew.. But Christianity is very much not Judaism. Judaism does not acknowledge Jesus as the Christ which is the foundation of Chrisitianity. Unless you want to be a hypocrite then that's different.

You're not making any sense here. The European missionaries brought Christianity to Igboland in the 19th century so what has Christianity got to do with the Igbo-Hebrew relationship?

holyokoto:


You are no true son of Igala. the first Attah of Our third Dynasty Ebulejonu was daughter of Abutu Eje, that's not where Igala history started. the second dynasty Attah Aji . the first dynasty preceded this Eri who Igbo people placed 14th centuries, meaning Igbo never gave rise to Igala.

they said the third son of Eri is Attah. in fact an insult to Idah. Attah is not a name of a person originally but a title derived from my father. we have more colourful ancestors not Asiatic tribes Hebrew that entered Canaan from Transjordan.

we always see ourselves inferior but am not part of that, the oldest known human existence is from.Africa not Asia. Olduvai George Tanzania

We are only about 2million people in number. I don't think we are even that old to begin with. I think our relationship with the Igbos go far beyond what we know. They might not be wrong at all, as we don't even know our own history and where we came from.

What they are trying to say is that ancient Jews were black people and those black people migrated to Africa. It's even in the Bible, many people know the Bible wilderness is in Africa. And it isn't that hard to migrate from Egypt to west Africa. The in Mali today are said to have migrated from Egypt.

So nobody is trying to be a white Jew here. They are saying the whites in Israel today are fake and not the true Jews the Bible talks about.

DopeTwelve:


Oh wow, your a complete idiot. When have I ever talked about the Jewish-Igbo link? Yeah that's right, you feel like a dumbass don't you? I was debunking your claim about Igbo's being illiterate.I wouldn't say the igbo-Jewish link is 100% true until they give the full result. And it seems that you think that your a mind reader, since you think that everyone who supports the Jewish-Igbo link has an 'inferiority complex'.

Except, you didn't debunk anything, you deluded fuckwit. Your ancestors were illiterate. When you show me preserved literature from your ancestors, then come back and claim to have debunked anything. Your raging inferiority complex is the only reason you can even claim to entertain the idea that your ancestors were Jews, while spewing twaddle like "I wouldn't say it's 100% true". Who do you think you're fooling?

The Dogons in Mali..

DopeTwelve:


Oh wow, your a complete idiot. When have I ever talked about the Jewish-Igbo link? Yeah that's right, you feel like a dumbass don't you? I was debunking your claim about Igbo's being illiterate.I wouldn't say the igbo-Jewish link is 100% true until they give the full result. And it seems that you think that your a mind reader, since you think that everyone who supports the Jewish-Igbo link has an 'inferiority complex'.

That poster is not Igbo. Just ignore him.

Yes we are

Ngozi123:


We are blessed.

yes we are

Ngozi123:


You're not making any sense here. The European missionaries brought Christianity to Igboland in the 19th century so what has Christianity got to do with the Igbo-Hebrew relationship?

Awwww! You seem to be mixing up issues.


The Igbo Jewish ancestry claim is a non-starter as the O.P has failed to provide any evidence or proof. So until he does, that issue is moot.

Then the issue of Igbos claiming Judaism as a religion to sync with their being Jews. My point simply pointed out that in the Judaism religion, Jesus isn't recognised as the Christ nor the Messiah. I just wanted to make that clear. There is nothing really to argue about. You can't be a Judaist and Christian at the same darn time.


That's all.

Beta Israel are the only well known black jews

herich:

Is it hatred that's making you reason like this.

it's not hatred...but surely you don't assume I will believe a story devoid of concrete references, evidences etc just like that!! anyone can cook up anything just to justify their views.

Jabioro:
Yes na!

Hahahahah.....my stomach ooo

MadCow1:


Awwww! You seem to be mixing up issues.


The Igbo Jewish ancestry claim is a non-starter as the O.P has failed to provide any evidence or proof. So until he does, that issue is moot.

Then the issue of Igbos claiming Judaism as a religion to sync with their being Jews. My point simply pointed out that in the Judaism religion, Jesus isn't recognised as the Christ nor the Messiah. I just wanted to make that clear. There is nothing really to argue about. You can't be a Judaist and Christian at the same darn time.


That's all.

But no one has disputed this point so why are you bringing it up?

MEILYN:
We are only about 2million people in number. I don't think we are even that old to begin with. I think our relationship with the Igbos go far beyond what we know. They might not be wrong at all, as we don't even know our own history and where we came from.

What they are trying to say is that ancient Jews were black people and those black people migrated to Africa. It's even in the Bible, many people know the Bible wilderness is in Africa. And it isn't that hard to migrate from Egypt to west Africa. The in Mali today are said to have migrated from Egypt.

So nobody is trying to be a white Jew here. They are saying the whites in Israel today are fake and not the true Jews the Bible talks about.

Tell them my brother...Afonja cynics and nihilists

SirMazi:

Hahahahah.....my stomach ooo

Your stomach dey pain you... Wetin do you..

HajimeSaito:



Read what is written in the Israeli Haaretz Newspaper where the existence of a Jewish Gene is dismissed as a hoax.

This is exactly what is going through my mind. What is the Jewish gene? Of course no such thing exist.

sar33:
International president Jewish voice ministries,Rabbi Jonathan Bernis and his team storm Nnewi to present confirmatory and DNA tests on the claims that the Igbo's are of Israel descent.

They were received by the chairman Caretaker committee, Nnewi North ,Prince Chukwudi Orizu, at Messianic Faith Assembly, Uruagu Nnewi.

Ngozi Obileri reports that this is their fourth visit to Anambra state in their quest to find the lost children of Israel.

According to the DNA result, it has been scientifically proven that the igbos are from Israel, from the clan of Gad precisely.



Source:http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/08/international-president-jewish-voice.html?m=1

With the absence of other credible sources, I am not afraid to declare this a propaganda. If this is true the story will be in other credible and main media outlets. Not in a blog.

At least , the discovery of the Ethiopian Jews was a world news!

niggadee:
Beta Israel are the only well known black jews

I don't even think there are white Jews.. Those people said they are Jewish and not Jews.

Rossikki:


Dumbito.....Long before you were born, actual, respected SCHOLARS have researched the Igbo and West African connection to the Nile Valley and the Levant. There is copious evidence of ancient black presence in that region, and subsequent migration of blacks southwards following multiple invasions. Mainstream historians accept that many Jews fled into Africa after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. So why could Igbos not be among those people?

WHO ARE YOU? What have YOU written? The list of historians and scholars who have linked West Africans to the north are endless - Olumide Lucas, Cheikh Anta Diop, Chancellor Williams, Basil Davidson, Martin Bernal. Heck, even Lady Lugard, wife of Lord Lugard, the first British 'governor-general' of Nigeria, who was a historian, wrote extensively about it. So what's the big deal if the ancestors of Igbos were among the migrants? What the hell is wrong with you? Talking rubbish about mud huts. So what if pre-colonial Igbos lived in mud huts? How does that imply that that is ALL their history is about?

If you visit Sudan, you will see people living in mud huts. But if I tell you the HISTORY of the Sudan, the history of their ancestors, it is highly illustrious. In fact there are ruins of cities in Sudan that are over 7,000 years old, built with perfect geometry. The city of Kerma for instance. Bang in the middle of Sudan. Pyramids, temples and monuments, sit right there in the Sudan, beside mud hut dwellers.

Timbuktu in Mali was one of Africa's greatest cities of the middle ages. It had universities, public baths, and numerous facilities. But go there today, and you'll see people living in mud huts.

So you can be a poor mud hut dweller today, and still have descended from ancestors who were wealthy, sophisticated princes, nobles, and learned men, thousands of years ago. You don't assume that because a people are living in a state of simplicity today, that that is ALL their history must be about. That is the thinking of an ignoramus. Your problem is that you don't read history books. So you don't appreciate the ebb and flow of history over thousands of years, how people and societies are affected by change caused by war, geography, migration, economics and other factors. The fact that eras and epochs come and go, and that civilisations rise and fall, and rise and fall again, over thousands of years.

A people are mud hut dwellers in the forest? Oh they must have ALWAYS been that way. That's a very uneducated and thoughtless, boneheaded approach to history and knowledge. You need to GROW UP, go on Amazon, buy some history books, perhaps from some of the authors I listed above, READ and LEARN.

I don't even know where to start from to debunk this.

Where is the "copious evidence" in Igbo land that they once came to this region from the Levant? Childish musings about the "lost tribes of Israel" horseshit is irrelevant to that basic premise. Post-Roman Jewry were exiled from Palestine. The Ashkenazis (who you've laughably tried to delegitimize in the past as white converts ) settled Eastern and Northern Europe and the Sephardic Jews settled Iberia, the Middle East and North Africa. They have clear legacies where they've been. Where is the evidence among our ancestors that they ever had origins different from Ekoid groups for example? Is it in your language (if you like, post the debunked twaddle about linguistic similarities that have been repeatedly exposed as having fraudulent sources)? Is it in your religion (despite the revisionist attempts to portray our polytheist ancient religion as similar to the monotheist Jewish religion)? Do you look Jewish or just like other Bantus? Do you have DNA links from the Levant (funny we're discussing that on this fake new fraud of an article)? Do you have any relics in artworks, tools, monuments etc showing these links (please, don't insult our intelligence with any of that Nri horseshit)? Any real archaeological or anthropological evidence other than self-perpetuating drivel from obscure scholars cooking up shiit?

Your Sudan and Timbuktu analogy doesn't hold up in the slightest. They have well preserved legacies of their history and heritage regardless of how many impoverished plebs dwell (and have always dwelled) in thatch and mud. Hell, some of their greatest architecture is in mud. You have absolutely none to offer about Igbo history.

Keep deluding yourself about your erudition in history when you quote quacks on the internet. While claiming Ashkenazi Jews are just Caucasian Jewish converts and we're the REAL Jews. I know enough about history to know that while cultures and civilizations stagnate, they don't recede into relative primitiveness. You don't go from Semitic people with an Asiatic language building great concrete temples in the Middle East and having nearly 3000 years of literary erudition, to being a mud-dwelling, illiterate, Bantu group with a whole new Niger-Congo language who didn't evolve beyond dug-out canoes and basic implements like other Southern Nigerian groups. Common sense really has to eventually prevail at some point.

It's funny that if I was truly Yoruba like many Igbos here like to accuse me, I'd just laugh like every other group at the "Ugandan Jews" that like claiming to be Jewish. I respond to these daft claims with genuine anger, because it embarrasses me when efulefus claim this nonsense and turn us into a laughing stock. And to every other group that hears this Igbo Jewish nonsense, we're a laughing stock. Your motivations may be different because you're generally an Afrocentrist wacko, but many Igbos that claim this Jewish rubbish do it out of their inferiority complex that looks to boost their self-esteem by claiming a phony glorious heritage that does not belong to them. You yourself addressed some of the idiiots in this thread basically feeling like they were white or something. This disgraceful charade is the reason for example many people today now call Umuleri "Umueri" to conform to Jewish fantasies and you had one cursed efulefu that Nnamdi Kanu visited who calls himself an Igwe basically wearing Israel's blue and white colours as his Royal garb complete with the star of David. What kind of shameless rubbish is this? Do you really not see how this nonsense makes us a laughingstock?

alcuin:
So, there are no intelligent people in Igbo land to call a stop to this stupidity?

Even the supposed "Jews" you guys fight so hard to claim relationship with are not even the original Jews. The are assimilated Jews, Caucasians who adopted the Jewish religion in Europe.

The original Jews are the Africans of Sudan, Uganda and Ethiopia. They are black men. All the traditions of the Old Testament were black culture and spirituality.

From that region, Kingdoms were developed as migration took place in all directions. The last to be formed moving northwards the river Nile is Egypt. Moving westward, kingdoms like the Kanuri, Nupe, Bini and Igbos.

The Igbos emerged directly from Nupes and share a lot in common, in terms of culture.

So, guys stop relating with the fake Jews of Isreal....

fool just search Google and search Black Jews and see for ur self

centboy123456:




fool just search Google and search Black Jews and see for ur self

Stop making a fool of yourselves. You are Africans period.

MEILYN:
We are only about 2million people in number. I don't think we are even that old to begin with. I think our relationship with the Igbos go far beyond what we know. They might not be wrong at all, as we don't even know our own history and where we came from.

What they are trying to say is that ancient Jews were black people and those black people migrated to Africa. It's even in the Bible, many people know the Bible wilderness is in Africa. And it isn't that hard to migrate from Egypt to west Africa. The in Mali today are said to have migrated from Egypt.

So nobody is trying to be a white Jew here. They are saying the whites in Israel today are fake and not the true Jews the Bible talks about.

Whites in Israel are fake? Some Jewish people really have to come to this site to have a read of you comedians.

I love history as much as the next guy. But I urge igbos to tread cautiously, as accepting identification of another cultural group, imposed and promoted BY that other cultural group, could be very devastating for the people and their own knowledge and history of their own culture. It'll be better if it were carried out exclusively by Igbo scientists and historians, but to have Jewish researchers take the lead, seems like they have an agenda that is dubious.

In this situation, I see no difference between this and the islamization of Africa over the past millennia. And look at Africa now, Arabic is the second most spoken language, and the Muslim religion is potent in nearly every country. Same with English, and Christianity. If we continue to accept what others thrust upon us, we will forever be lost. Between Islam, Christianity, Arabic, and English affecting african culture, we can't even begin to measure how far we've strayed from our original roots. It's probably not even recognizable anymore.

Ngozi123:


But no one has disputed this point so why are you bringing it up?

I never said it was in dispute hence the comment "I HOPE THEY REALISE"..."

Anything else?

Obi1kenobi:


Whites in Israel are fake? Some Jewish people really have to come to this site to have a read of you comedians.

Yes, they are fake jews.

MEILYN:
Yes, they are fake jews.

You're fake humans, then.

sar33:
International president Jewish voice ministries,Rabbi Jonathan Bernis and his team storm Nnewi to present confirmatory and DNA tests on the claims that the Igbo's are of Israel descent.

They were received by the chairman Caretaker committee, Nnewi North ,Prince Chukwudi Orizu, at Messianic Faith Assembly, Uruagu Nnewi.

Ngozi Obileri reports that this is their fourth visit to Anambra state in their quest to find the lost children of Israel.

According to the DNA result, it has been scientifically proven that the igbos are from Israel, from the clan of Gad precisely.



Source:http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/08/international-president-jewish-voice.html?m=1

I should think that with news like this the DNA test proof should've accompanied this report or is this blogger trying to draw traffic?

Jabioro:
The results was written with golden pen and doctors by Jewish line.. when you're looking for your brother across Sahara desert, prepared to lost your route of historic line in droves.. Igbo should answer this question if truly they migrated from Jewish generation to East Nigeria.. what routes did their forefathers follow?

you are a monkey, what route did your own oduduwa fathers and arewa fathers follow before migrating to the present location?

Ogbonnaya1:

you are a monkey, what route did your own oduduwa fathers and arewa fathers follow before migrating to the present location?

We are not wandering around looking for abode like your forefathers..

xtervaganza:
Africans still think they need validations from the whites to feel important onblife



Sad

MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU FOR THIS...

Obi1kenobi:


Except, you didn't debunk anything, you deluded fuckwit. Your ancestors were illiterate. When you show me preserved literature from your ancestors, then come back and claim to have debunked anything. Your raging inferiority complex is the only reason you can even claim to entertain the idea that your ancestors were Jews, while spewing twaddle like "I wouldn't say it's 100% true". Who do you think you're fooling?

Your an idiot, look at this ancient Egyptian writing script, does it look like art or does it look like a writing script? Now look at the ancient Nsibidi script does it look like art or does it look like a writing script? The Egyptian script looks more like art than the Igbo script, just because it looks like art does not mean that it's not a writing script. Idiot, Now your going to claim that the Egyptians were illerate because their letters look like pictures.lol

Obi1kenobi:


Except, you didn't debunk anything, you deluded fuckwit. Your ancestors were illiterate. When you show me preserved literature from your ancestors, then come back and claim to have debunked anything. Your raging inferiority complex is the only reason you can even claim to entertain the idea that your ancestors were Jews, while spewing twaddle like "I wouldn't say it's 100% true". Who do you think you're fooling?

And your the one who has an inferority complex, since your trying to claim that your ancestors were illerate hence inferior, assuming your are an Igbo man.