timbros:


The question is, did Drogba our target man score 20+ goals for us to win titles? Why must Airmark continue his 20+ goals line everytime?

Yes Costa's goals won us titles, so does Morata's goals in Madrid. It must not be 20+ goals.

Stop misunderstanding me bros. I said Costa's goals won us titles and I still stand by that. Morata's goals won Madrid a title last season too. So yes, goals win titles. BUT IT MUST NOT BE 20+ GOALS.

Wetin hard to understand there?

Mitchy's goal won Chelsea the league last season though, there would have been no league to win if Costa and Hazard didn't do their part, if your wing man Hazard can hit double digits, why shouldn't your 70m pound striker score 20+ goals


not interfering, just saying

lordfalcao:
nobi today Chelsea begin sack coaches. If he resign we pick another person probably pochettino..

If Conte leaves, na Emenalo next o...

timbros:


The question is, did Drogba our target man score 20+ goals for us to win titles? Why must Airmark continue his 20+ goals line everytime?

Yes Costa's goals won us titles, so does Morata's goals in Madrid. It must not be 20+ goals.

Stop misunderstanding me bros. I said Costa's goals won us titles and I still stand by that. Morata's goals won Madrid a title last season too. So yes, goals win titles. BUT IT MUST NOT BE 20+ GOALS.

Wetin hard to understand there?

Nihilist had answered you, yet you won't reason stuffs out. The mou's squad then, boasted of great attackers who could score goals on their own. The era of accommodating long goal drought for strikers in big teams is over now, as competition has become rife. Goals win matches, we cant rely on hazard who we know is not an high-scoring attacker and out injured. That is a big gamble, that no sensible coach will rely on.

Morata's goals won real madrid titles, just as cahill's goals won us epl. Did ronaldo score the same number of goals hazard scored last season? Was morata the one responsible for ronaldo's 25 goals last term or high number of goals he had been scoring all these years? You are not making any point at all.

Nihilstjnr:


Cahill out for Rudiger for me.

dopeJemi:


I'd replace cahill with Rudiger though.

I believe i am the German's biggest fan on this board but i gotta be honest, Cahill seems to be a different player lately.

Dude looks solid all of a sudden, with too many tackles, interceptions and clearances all to his name.
Maybe na just pre-season.

He is Chelsea's captain as i type this.

dopeJemi:


Mitchy's goal won Chelsea the league last season though, there would have been no league to win if Costa and Hazard didn't do their part, if your wing man Hazard can hit double digits, why shouldn't your 70m pound striker score 20+ goals


not interfering, just saying

I deliberately ignored your earlier post because you are here, not to discuss the sport but to troll.

No need mentioning me again. You are actually interfering.

Thank you.

timbros:


The question is, did Drogba our target man score 20+ goals for us to win titles? Why must Airmark continue his 20+ goals line everytime?

Yes Costa's goals won us titles, so does Morata's goals in Madrid. It must not be 20+ goals.

Stop misunderstanding me bros. I said Costa's goals won us titles and I still stand by that. Morata's goals won Madrid a title last season too. So yes, goals win titles. BUT IT MUST NOT BE 20+ GOALS.

Wetin hard to understand there?

If we ask you how Morata won the league for Madrid as a Benchwarmer, you will start floundering again....

The fact simply remains that Dragba had a far far better supporting cast around him to share the goal scoring burden. Who will share scoring burden here with Hazard out?

For the last 3 seasons, Costa has been our highest goal scorer, followed by Hazard. Costa is gone. Hazard is injured. We've now spent 70m on a Costa replacement, but you're saying that Morata does not even need to match his predecessor. Who do you think will make up the Shortfall of goals? Kante?

Is this logic that difficult to follow?

airmark:


Nihilist had answered you, yet you won't reason stuffs out. The mou's squad then boast of great attackers who could score goals on their own. Goals win matches, we cant rely on hazard who we know is not high scoring attacker. That is a big gamble, that no sensible coach will rely on.

Morata's goals won real madrid titles, just as cahill's goals won us epl. Did ronaldo score the same number of goals hazard scored last season? Was morata the one responsible for ronaldo's 25 goals last term or high number of goals he had been scoring all these years? You are not making any point at all.

Good. Now you're talking.

So we should be discussing about how our entire strike force should improve their goal scoring output not just Morata.

Hazard - Morata - Pedro can be a devastating attack line if they all improve in their goal stat. We have one of the best (if not the best) in the assist chart, Fabregas.

If we can play that attack and somehow fit Fabregas in our midfield, I don't see why that trio won't give us 45 50 goals.

Drogba didn't score much but he has players to share the goal scoring job with. The same way we should be looking at other players in the current squad to score more and not depend only on Morata's goals for trophies.

timbros:


I deliberately ignored your earlier post because you are here, not to discuss the sport but to troll.

No need mentioning me again. You are actually interfering.

Thank you.

I am not here to troll sir, unless you are telling me nihilist and airmark are trolling too

back to what we were saying

you don't buy a striker for 70m to just be a team player, juventus knew what they were getting with higuain, Chelsea knew what they wanted with lukaku, Barca knew what they wanted with Suarez same as PSG with Neymar

you can't overlook Costa's contribution just because mitchy scored the goal that won you the league, Morata wasn't bought to wait for others to score and then score some goals that will earn you important points, he was bought to score goals, whether important or not, just keep scoring

Griffon:




I believe i am the German's biggest fan on this board but i gotta be honest, Cahill seems to be a different player lately.

Dude looks solid all of a sudden, with too many tackles, interceptions and clearances all to his name.
Maybe na just pre-season.

He is Chelsea's captain as i type this.

Don't let preseason hype fool you. Cahill is only good when he's on the end of a corner or freekick. His defending has gone significantly downhill over the last two season. I believe it's only a matter of time till he gets exposed again this season. Hopefully, one of the competing CBs breathing down his neck will relegate him to the bench, sooner rather than later.

Griffon:


Van Dijk - Luiz - Cahill

This IMHO isn't bad at all for Europe and the league.

Rudiger and Christensen can serve as back-ups.

There isn't really any strong reason to jettison Luiz if Dijk signs. We are trying to bolster this thin squad.

From a technical standpoint, Ibime is right. However, it won't happen. Van Dijk will most likely move to RCB and LCB. The question now remains, what happens to Cahill? For me, if this was true, the best line up will be this

Azpi - Luiz - Van Dijk

Aurier - Kante - Bakayoko - Sandro



If Aurier and Sandro are available alongside Van Dijk, then Chelsea should stop at nothing to make his happen.

Griffon:




I believe i am the German's biggest fan on this board but i gotta be honest, Cahill seems to be a different player lately.

Dude looks solid all of a sudden, with too many tackles, interceptions and clearances all to his name.
Maybe na just pre-season.

He is Chelsea's captain as i type this.

yes he looks solid but for how long? I don't know, maybe it's because of this dislike I have for British players

make season start proper first

luiz
van dijk
Rudiger

now that is a wall

timbros:


Di Matteo won us UCL. Zola haven't even managed us not to talk of delivering us any trophy. I know who I will listen to between Di Matteo and Zola.

Evidence have proved repeatedly that Pep is overrated.

It is interesting you never said anything about my Drogba example.

Raumdeuter

Nihilstjnr:


If we ask you how Morata won the league for Madrid as a Benchwarmer, you will start floundering again....

The fact simply remains that Dragba had a far far better supporting cast around him to share the goal scoring burden. Who will share scoring burden here with Hazard out?

For the last 3 seasons, Costa has been our highest goal scorer, followed by Hazard. Costa is gone. Hazard is injured. We've now spent 70m on a Costa replacement, but you're saying that Morata does not even need to match his predecessor. Who do you think will make up the Shortfall of goals? Kante?

Is this logic that difficult to follow?

Morata won 13 points for Madrid, only behind Ronaldo. Minus that 13 points from Madrid's 93 points and let's see how they will be Champions.

If Drogba had a supporting cast, you should be worried why Morata doesn't have now.

Let the whole team improve and support Morata instead of expecting 20+ goals from Morata.

timbros:


Good. Now you're talking.

So we should be discussing about how our entire strike force should improve their goal scoring output not just Morata.

Hazard - Morata - Pedro can be a devastating attack line if they all improve in their goal stat. We have one of the best (if not the best) in the assist chart, Fabregas.

If we can play that attack and somehow fit Fabregas in our midfield, I don't see why that trio won't give us 45 50 goals.

Drogba didn't score much but he has players to share the goal scoring job with. The same way we should be looking at other players in the current squad to score more and not depend only on Morata's goals for trophies.

Lol Pedro....Devastating Attack...

Pedro has only scored more than 10 league goals on 3 occasions in his entire career...despite playing with the Assist masters Xavi and Iniesta. In fact, dude managed to score up to 15 league goals for the first and last time in his life 4 years ago.

That's the Devastating Attack

Morata also managed more than 10 league goals for the first time in his life last season, though maybe he's on the come up, at the start of an upward trend.

Hazard is not a goal scorer...man says so himself. 12-15 league goals a season is his baseline.

This is the devastating attack that can carry Morata so that he doesn't need to net 20?

Timbros...

Griffon:


Can you take a tea?

timbros:


Morata won 13 points for Madrid, only behind Ronaldo. Minus that 13 points from Madrid's 93 points and let's see how they will be Champions.

.

Prove this.

dopeJemi:


I am not here to troll sir, unless you are telling me nihilist and airmark are trolling too

back to what we were saying

you don't buy a striker for 70m to just be a team player, juventus knew what they were getting with higuain, Chelsea knew what they wanted with lukaku, Barca knew what they wanted with Suarez same as PSG with Neymar

you can't overlook Costa's contribution just because mitchy scored the goal that won you the league, Morata wasn't bought to wait for others to score and then score some goals that will earn you important points, he was bought to score goals, whether important or not, just keep scoring

For you to pick only the 2020 example in my post tells me you are here just to troll.

Have Morata flopped yet? Have Neymar succeeded in PSG yet? Have Lukaku repeated his 25 goal haul in United yet?

This is just a Community Shield match!

Why all the attack?

And talking about the price tag, 70m for a striker TODAY is ordinary. The market is highly inflated now so nobody should attach Morata's price tag as the reason why he should be scoring hat trick in every match.

Defenders go for 50m+ now. Why not a striker?

timbros:


Good. Now you're talking.

So we should be discussing about how our entire strike force should improve their goal scoring output not just Morata.

Hazard - Morata - Pedro can be a devastating attack line if they all improve in their goal stat. We have one of the best (if not the best) in the assist chart, Fabregas.

If we can play that attack and somehow fit Fabregas in our midfield, I don't see why that trio won't give us 45 50 goals.

Drogba didn't score much but he has players to share the goal scoring job with. The same way we should be looking at other players in the current squad to score more and not depend only on Morata's goals for trophies.

I have been talking since, you are the one not reasoning with me. Hazard is injured, even when fit, he cant guarantee high number of goals. The competition is stronger now, with man city and man utd looking set to devour. Any slip up, dropping points against top teams earlier in the season, may see our season over when it's just starting.

Drogba, despite not scoring high number of goals earlier at chelsea, was a fighter. He was stronger than morata, fighting every balls, drawing the likes of damien duff, lampard, gudjohnsen and co to wreck havoc. That era is gone.

I wasn't surprised when conte said morata wasn't ready. Every real madrid follower, who understands epl's demands, wouldn't be surprised. I watched most of his matches last season and i am not criticising his style for fun. It doesn't suit ours based on what we have on ground.

timbros:


For you to pick only the 2020 example in my post tells me you are here just to troll.

Have Morata flopped yet? Have Neymar succeeded in PSG yet? Have Lukaku repeated his 25 goal haul in United yet?

This is just a Community Shield match!

Why all the attack?

And talking about the price tag, 70m for a striker TODAY is ordinary. The market is highly inflated now so nobody should attach Morata's price tag as the reason why he should be scoring hat trick in every match.

Defenders go for 50m+ now. Why not a striker?

No it's not. Even in this bloated market, Lacazette went for far less than that. Salah went for less than that. Chicharito went for far less than that. Costa will be sold for a lot less than that

When you spend 70m on a striker, you expect 70m worth of goals....not 70 million excuses

Nihilstjnr:


Lol Pedro....Devastating Attack...

Pedro has only scored more than 10 league goals on 3 occasions in his entire career...despite playing with the Assist masters Xavi and Iniesta. In fact, dude managed to score up to 15 league goals for the first and last time in his life 4 years ago.

That's the Devastating Attack

Morata also managed more than 10 league goals for the first time in his life last season, though maybe he's on the come up, at the start of an upward trend.

Hazard is not a goal scorer...man says so himself. 12-15 league goals a season is his baseline.

This is the devastating attack that can carry Morata so that he doesn't need to net 20?

Timbros...

I see you choose whatever you want in my post and interpret it which ever way you want.

This is the post you quoted below. How you failed to comprehend the bolded is beyond me. At this point, I bow out.

Good day.

Good. Now you're talking.

So we should be discussing about how our entire strike force should improve their goal scoring output not just Morata.

Hazard - Morata - Pedro can be a devastating attack line if they all improve in their goal stat. We have one of the best (if not the best) in the assist chart, Fabregas.

If we can play that attack and somehow fit Fabregas in our midfield, I don't see why that trio won't give us 45 50 goals.

Drogba didn't score much but he has players to share the goal scoring job with. The same way we should be looking at other players in the current squad to score more and not depend only on Morata's goals for trophies.

Nihilstjnr:


Don't let preseason hype fool you. Cahill is only good when he's on the end of a corner or freekick. His defending has gone significantly downhill over the last two season. I believe it's only a matter of time till he gets exposed again this season. Hopefully, one of the competing CBs breathing down his neck will relegate him to the bench, sooner rather than later.

I wish to make a case for Gary but i guess I'll wait.

5 goals that win major title is better than 30 goals that put you in 6th position.


Scoring in crucial game to gain crucial points is the most important thing, not scoring hatrick after the opponent is already 3-0 down.

One of the reasons I supported costa/conte's reconciliation.

This is why drogba will continue to be legend even without banging 20 goals every year.

Costa's 20 goals won us the league with 15 crucial points from some of the goals alone while Lukaka's 24goals brought home nothing.


Morata goals at madrid won trophies.
Less down 100minutes of play is not enough to whack him with "flop" hammer.

Nihilstjnr:


Prove this.

Good day again.

nateevs:


From a technical standpoint, Ibime is right. However, it won't happen. Van Dijk will most likely move to RCB and LCB. The question now remains, what happens to Cahill? For me, if this was true, the best line up will be this

Azpi - Luiz - Van Dijk

Aurier - Kante - Bakayoko - Sandro



If Aurier and Sandro are available alongside Van Dijk, then Chelsea should stop at nothing to make his happen.

Now that's a Championship winning backline. You seem to be positive on Sandro, that ninja isn't leaving Juve anytime soon.

Are there good left wing-backs out there, as good as Sandro? I have always wanted Ricardo Rodriguez but fvck Emenalo and his side-chick Marina.

timbros:


I see you choose whatever you want in my post and interpret it which ever way you want.

This is the post you quoted below. How you failed to comprehend the bolded is beyond me. At this point, I bow out.

Good day.

You're the one who fails to comprehend anything my G.

You cannot see a dull boy who has a history of failing and repeating classes in secondary school and then expect him to have a high scoring Jamb result.

That's a reason why for each of those players, I analysed their numbers through out their entire careers.

Pedro for example, that played in an ultra attacking Barca team and managed to score 15 league goals only once in his career, cannot reasonably be expected to dramatically increase his output to cover for Morata.

That's as foolish as saying if William improves his goal output, then we don't need a new striker. In theory, that statement is true...but has Willian ever shown you the potential for such an exponential increase in productivity?

Has Pedro?

I think Hazard has shown some potential to improve his goal scoring, but dude is injured and out for like 2 months, and then he has to get his rythym back and learn to play with his new team mates...

So what is the basis for your expectation that 'they can all improve their goal stat'?

timbros:


For you to pick only the 2020 example in my post tells me you are here just to troll.

Have Morata flopped yet? Have Neymar succeeded in PSG yet? Have Lukaku repeated his 25 goal haul in United yet?

This is just a Community Shield match!

Why all the attack?

And talking about the price tag, 70m for a striker TODAY is ordinary. The market is highly inflated now so nobody should attach Morata's price tag as the reason why he should be scoring hat trick in every match.

Defenders go for 50m+ now. Why not a striker?

you are not getting the point

Morata hasn't left much to be desired honestly, what is about his game that shows he is capable of leading a team from start to finish

he has 40 career goals in the last four years, that doesn't help his reputation too, Neymar at 25 has 300+ career goals, you can't tell me he did that by scoring less than 20 goals majority of his career and this is a winger we really talking about... Lukaku at everton scored 20+ last season with the likes of mirallas, Barkley and gana and has been hitting double digits before that

what is it about Morata's game you can pin point and say okay, we have a ruthless finisher and prolific goal scorer on our hands?

Zola might have failed as a coach but he is right about the kind of striker Chelsea needs at the moment

timbros:


Good day again.

So a screenshot of somebody saying Morata won Madrid the title is proof that Morata won Madrid the title?

Wow.

This is interesting

Griffon:


Now that's a Championship winning backline. You seem to be positive on Sandro, that ninja isn't leaving Juve anytime soon.

Are there good left wing-backs out there, as good as Sandro? I have always wanted Ricardo Rodriguez but fvck Emenalo and his side-chick Marina.

I tell you. That is a seriously solid line, with wing backs that could allow Pedro and Hazard unleash hell. I am very positive on Sandro. I haven't found any available LWB that can do a job.

EvilMetahuman:
5 goals that win major title is better than 30 goals that put you in 6th position.


Scoring in crucial game to gain crucial points is the most important thing, not scoring hatrick after the opponent is already 3-0 down.

One of the reasons I supported costa/conte's reconciliation.

This is why drogba will continue to be legend even without banging 20 goals every year.

Costa's 20 goals won us the league with 15 crucial points from some of the goals alone while Lukaka's 24goals brought home nothing.


Morata goals at madrid won trophies.
Less down 100minutes of play is not enough to whack him with "flop" hammer.

the thing is without those 30goals your 5goals is nothing

without Costa's goals and Hazard's, mitchy's match winner against West Brom would have been just another win

without Ronaldo's 25 league goals, Morata's goals would have been just a mere increase in his tally

should we now sell Fellaini for 100m? after all his goals and assists won us efl cup, the Europa league title and the FA cup, what about lingard?

The earlier we realise that our captain won't be leaving our starting 11 anytime soon, the better for us.

So OptaJoe official Twitter handle is just 'somebody'.... wow!

Well, squawka might just be another 'somebody'.

Nihilstjnr:


So a screenshot of somebody saying Morata won Madrid the title is proof that Morata won Madrid the title?

Wow.

This is interesting

That's Opta statistics mahn... Not just anybody!

timbros:
So OptaJoe official Twitter handle is just 'somebody'.... wow!

Well, squawka might just be another 'somebody'.

Sqwuaka buy data from Opta.

My dude, is it so difficult to show us how Morata won Madrid the league without quoting somebody else saying Madrid won us the league?

I mean the data is out there. His number of goals are known. The matches he scored them in are also known.

The issue now, instead of parroting somebody else( who by the way, do NOT say how they came to this conclusion), why can't you tell me exactly how Morata won Madrid the league?