EvilMetahuman:
5 goals that win major title is better than 30 goals that put you in 6th position.


Scoring in crucial game to gain crucial points is the most important thing, not scoring hatrick after the opponent is already 3-0 down.

One of the reasons I supported costa/conte's reconciliation.

This is why drogba will continue to be legend even without banging 20 goals every year.

Costa's 20 goals won us the league with 15 crucial points from some of the goals alone while Lukaka's 24goals brought home nothing.


Morata goals at madrid won trophies.
Less down 100minutes of play is not enough to whack him with "flop" hammer.

Lingard scored the winning goals in 3 successive Wembley finals. So scoring what you term "important" goals will not be important if not for those 3 -0 ,4-0 victories that followed. Aguero scored the " important" goal in 2012 that won city the title on goal difference, if other strikers haven't been scoring extra goals to up their goal difference in other matches, Agueros goals would have been meaningless

afrodoc2:


What shocked me wasn't the outcome but manner it happened cos Cormier is as strong as an ox and as tough as nails. But bruh when you are discombobulated you are discombobulated.

I would advise Jones to steer clear of the real MMA heavyweights though. He won't have reach advantage against them and definitely won't have size advantage against those monsters....won't be nice for him to develop a stutter.

I wasn't expecting Cormier to loose and especially not in that way. He got totally smashed. No coming back from that.

Mate money talks. Brock is still serving a one year ban I believe however once He gets back, I fully expect that fight to be made. There is simply too much money involved for both parties not to make it happen. If won't have the size advantage but I fully expect His footwork to be better than Brock.

Even chicharito in a real madrid team, looked good, scoring goals as sub against getafe and co. Even adebayor got decent services from great players in the team.

Morata bla bla number of points. lol. As if ibrahimovic didn't win man utd more points. Where did it land them on the table? Drawing matches up and down like man utd last season, is not what some of us want to see.

dopeJemi:


the thing is without those 30goals your 5goals is nothing

without Costa's goals and Hazard's, mitchy's match winner against West Brom would have been just another win

without Ronaldo's 25 league goals, Morata's goals would have been just a mere increase in his tally

should we now sell Fellaini for 100m? after all his goals and assists won us efl cup, the Europa league title and the FA cup, what about lingard?

You failed to comprehend the simple post.

Scoring huge number of useless goals mean nothing if you those goals don't have any impact.

Costa gave chelsea 15 points from different 1-0 or 2-1 wins last season. when all hope was lost and we already settled for a draw, he scores out of nothing or nowhere to give 3points.
Deduct 15 points. From chelsea's point last season let's see if chelsea would have been crowned champions.

And yes, batshuayis goal against westbrom is more important than lukaka's hatrick against some team.

You are nowhere to be found against opponents that are very difficult to beat, only to be flexing muscle and scoring hatrick against some farmers who are already 3-0 down.

Its a team sport, you expect other players to make mark. Give us crucial goal when the other player is not performing to expectation.
Hazard, pedro or someone could come the rescue when costa is completely marked out.
Without moratas goals also, ronaldo's 25 goals will be useless also.


Everton is not a bad team if that's what you are driving at.

Griffon:
Telegraph are running a report that the board has promised Conte three more signings.

Aurier, Van Dijk and Drinkwater are the players shortlisted already.

Now IMHO, the arrival of Dijk should see Azpi moved to the RWB on a permanent basis. We already have to many Centre-halfs and it's getting crowded over there.

With Azpi and Moses at the RWB, there won't be any need to bring in Aurier, who looks pretty much like Costa 0.2, rather his funds should get us another LWB, a competition for the feeble Alonso.

Drinkwater would count as homegrown talent and he knows the league well too. I won't mind having him, that our midfield needs anything that can trap the ball and tackle humans, just incase Kante shuts down.

One LWB, one CB and one CM, and we are good.

Your thoughts.

They would be good signings. For Aurier tho I hope his behaviour changes for good has that is his only red flag he would be able to play that RWB position better than moses especially in terms of crosses, Van Dijk purchase means one of our three starting defenders would have to be dropped and it hard to choose which, Cahill seems to be the weakest point but since he has just being made club Capt benching him instanta for a newcomer might not go well for team harmony and besides Cahill hasn't been really bad in the league, Perhaps David luiz could be moved to midfield? Drinkwater purchase might not be needed if Luiz is converted to a midfielder. Leaving Alonso 's position there were rumours of Candreva flying around last week perhaps him if Sandro isn't leaving.

chic2pimp:


I wasn't expecting Cormier to loose and especially not in that way. He got totally smashed. No coming back from that.

Mate money talks. Brock is still serving a one year ban I believe however once He gets back, I fully expect that fight to be made. There is simply too much money involved for both parties not to make it happen. If won't have the size advantage but I fully expect His footwork to be better than Brock.

I aint talking about Brock. Brock is more hype than substance and he is as old as the hills. I am talkng about killers like Stipe Miocic, Cain Velasquez and Overeem.

lordfalcao:
nobi today Chelsea begin sack coaches. If he resign we pick another person probably pochettino..

Na so....u try well well! What makes you feel pochettino will dump spurs with total freedom of player transfers for cfc with non?

Griffon:
Telegraph are running a report that the board has promised Conte three more signings.

Aurier, Van Dijk and Drinkwater are the players shortlisted already.

Now IMHO, the arrival of Dijk should see Azpi moved to the RWB on a permanent basis. We already have to many Centre-halfs and it's getting crowded over there.

With Azpi and Moses at the RWB, there won't be any need to bring in Aurier, who looks pretty much like Costa 0.2, rather his funds should get us another LWB, a competition for the feeble Alonso.

Drinkwater would count as homegrown talent and he knows the league well too. I won't mind having him, that our midfield needs anything that can trap the ball and tackle humans, just incase Kante shuts down.

One LWB, one CB and one CM, and we are good.

Your thoughts.

Have you sat down to imagine a midfield of fab and Drinkwater without kante or babayoko? It will be one day in hell

EvilMetahuman:

Costa gave chelsea 15 points from different 1-0 or 2-1 wins last season. when all hope was lost and we already settled for a draw, he scores out of nothing or nowhere to give 3points.

Most, if not all morata's goals last season can be scored by costa in real madrid. Can you say the same for morata in a chelsea team? There are times pedro and hazard will switch off on the pitch or get injured, your striker should have that nerve to score out of nothing like you stated.
Have we got that guy in morata? No, at least for now.

timbros:


If Conte leaves, na Emenalo next o...

if he will give us trophies Mk he become coach

EvilMetahuman:


You failed to comprehend the simple post.

Scoring huge number of useless goals mean nothing if you those goals don't have any impact.

Costa gave chelsea 15 points from different 1-0 or 2-1 wins last season. when all hope was lost and we already settled for a draw, he scores out of nothing or nowhere to give 3points.
Deduct 15 points. From chelsea's point last season let's see if chelsea would have been crowned champions.

And yes, batshuayis goal against westbrom is more important than lukaka's hatrick against some team.

You are nowhere to be found against opponents that are very difficult to beat, only to be flexing muscle and scoring hatrick against some farmers who are already 3-0 down.

Its a team sport, you expect other players to make mark. Give us crucial goal when the other player is not performing to expectation.
Hazard, pedro or someone could come the rescue when costa is completely marked out.
Without moratas goals also, ronaldo's 25 goals will be useless also.


Everton is not a bad team if that's what you are driving at.

the point is, 20+ plus goals can't be useless

who would a club rather buy, a player that scores 30+ useless goals or the one that scores only a few important goals? if you were the manager of a team, Who would you go for?

let's assume Ronaldo didn't score 25goals last season, how important do you think Morata's goals would be? 20+ useless goals laid the foundation for a few Important goals


there is no way 20+ plus goals won't have impact, no way...

timbros:


Di Matteo won us UCL. Zola haven't even managed us not to talk of delivering us any trophy. I know who I will listen to between Di Matteo and Zola.

Evidence have proved repeatedly that Pep is overrated.

It is interesting you never said anything about my Drogba example.

CapitalCee:


Raumdeuter

airmark:


Most, if not all morata's goals last season can be scored by costa in real madrid. Can you say the same for morata in a chelsea team? There are times pedro and hazard will switch off on the pitch or get injured, your striker should have that nerve to score out of nothing like you stated.
Have we got that guy in morata? No, at least for now.

morata has only played less down 100minute at chelsea or england.

You cannot say for sure that he cannot score those goals unless you are from the future.

There are more than 50 games to decide whether he is gonna flop or not.

And with the record above, I'm very positive he can do it if given the chance. If he can't, oh well.
it will quite disappointing but he won't be the first flop.
Afterall, torress was great at liverpool(england)

Nihilstjnr:


I don't think you even know what your talking about. Drogba at Chelsea was playing with Balon Do'r and WPOTY podium finalist, UEFA midfielder of the year, African Footballer or the Year, UEFA defender of the year and so on...

He was not playing with Kante, Alonso or Victor Moses.

Drogba's team could afford to share the goal scoring burden...This team can't.

I don't understand how it's not immediately obvious.

I mean you're the same dude who was arguing that Costa's goals won something for us...but now Morata doesn't need to?

Be consistent mehn...

Let me help you with the names so timbros can see

Sir lord legend lampard aka goal scoring machine. Who is the other player that can contribute 50℅ goals from our midfield right now?

King Ballack, king Essien, deco,makalele, anelka,kalou,robben,duff, etc where the players drogba played with.

Kalou was busy hitting double digits from the bench. Anelka even scored more than drogba in one season that we won the prem and he was the highest goal scorer in epl too if I am correct.

So I don't even understand how timbros can compare that Drogba's squad to the bunch of goal shy ninnies we parade this days.

diggz:


Na so....u try well well! What makes you feel pochettino will dump spurs with total freedom of player transfers for cfc with non?

what made you think Chelsea would have not attracted top coaches in ancelotti, mourinho and co ? Is pochettino different from them ?

dopeJemi:


the point is, 20+ plus goals can't be useless

who would a club rather buy, a player that scores 30+ useless goals or the one that scores only a few important goals? if you were the manager of a team, Who would you go for?

let's assume Ronaldo didn't score 25goals last season, how important do you think Morata's goals would be? 20+ useless goals laid the foundation for a few Important goals


there is no way 20+ plus goals won't have impact, no way...

Timbros knows why I'm coming for him. That's why he ran away.

I remember when I told him Lukaku scored 20+ goals and that the next Everton goal scorer had only 5, but Timbros insisted that Lukaku's goals were useless as he did not win Everton the league.

Now he's saying Morata needs his team mates to step up their attacking.

He never hala.

We dey here.

The people that think Cahill would be dropped anytime soon should start believing that a dead man would rise again..

diggz:


Have you sat down to imagine a midfield of fab and Drinkwater without kante or babayoko? It will be one day in hell

Carling cup things

As a tittle winning team I expect the team to try and get goals individually and also morata scoring too. If we had depended on only Costa goal last season. How many goals would we have scored in total ? . a title ambitious team do not depend on a striker goal solely to go far.. The team must contribute the little dy have. That is why we have Kane, lukaku, aguero topping chart yet dy won nothing...

dopeJemi:


the point is, 20+ plus goals can't be useless

who would a club rather buy, a player that scores 30+ useless goals or the one that scores only a few important goals? if you were the manager of a team, Who would you go for?

let's assume Ronaldo didn't score 25goals last season, how important do you think Morata's goals would be? 20+ useless goals laid the foundation for a few Important goals


there is no way 20+ plus goals won't have impact, no way...

I never said 20+ goals is bad thing and 20+ plus goals can't be all useless.

I was talking about quality not quantity.

If player A scores 10 goals and the goals gave a team 15 points, while player B scores 40 goals but the goals only gave the the 5points, who would you rather want on your team?

Actually, clubs go for players who make impact or style of play correlate with what the coach has in mind. Not necessarily huge number goals.

Have you wondered why felaini keeps getting picked by every manyoo coach despite fans complaint? Felaini's "uselessness" made impact in giving manyoo 3 trophies last season.


That's why I said its a team sport, if ronaldo didn't score 25 “crucial“ goals madrid won't win the league, same goes for morata.

lordfalcao:
what made you think Chelsea would have not attracted top coaches in ancelotti, mourinho and co ? Is pochettino different from them ?

Try attracting those coaches again then see what happens. We have a reckless way of handling coaches,especially the good ones. I personally will be careful to take a cfc job if I were a coach and I am sure pochettino won't be steeewpid enough not to think twice before he touches anything cfc.

My opinion though not saying it's a fact.

EvilMetahuman:
I never said 20+ goals is bad thing and 20+ plus goals can't be all useless.

I was talking about quality not quantity.

If player A scores 10 goals and the goals gave a team 15 points, while player B scores 40 goals but the goals only gave the the 5points, who would you rather want on your team?
.

Can you explain how the goals a player scores directly correlates the the points a team accrues?

Like a real life example on how player A's goals directly translate into points.

lordfalcao:
nobi today Chelsea begin sack coaches. If he resign we pick another person probably pochettino..

pochettino Totteham coach right? D guy nor bad at all.

Nihilstjnr:



Can you explain how the goals a player scores directly correlates the the points a team accrues?

Like a real life example on how player A's goals directly translate into points.

batshuayi's goal against westrom gave chelsea points that night chelsea officially won the league.

Yes, goals like that.

Most goals ronaldo scored last season in champions league.


Ronaldo has a better chance of winning wopty ahead of messi despite messi having having a better stat or goals. Does that even mean anything to you?

CapitalCee:


Lingard scored the winning goals in 3 successive Wembley finals. So scoring what you term "important" goals will not be important if not for those 3 -0 ,4-0 victories that followed. Aguero scored the " important" goal in 2012 that won city the title on goal difference, if other strikers haven't been scoring extra goals to up their goal difference in other matches, Agueros goals would have been meaningless

If lingard scored such den he is a team saver.

diggz:


Try attracting those coaches again then see what happens. We have a reckless way of handling coaches,especially the good ones. I personally will be careful to take a cfc job if I were a coach and I am sure pochettino won't be steeewpid enough not to think twice before he touches anything cfc.

My opinion though not saying it's a fact.

we attracted mourinho twice, nothing happened.. Chelsea is a big club and can attract any coach they want if he is available. If pochettino becomes free tomorrow and Chelsea wants him, he will not think twice... Abi you think conte doesn't know about the club's reckless way of handling coaches before taking the job?

spartacus11:


pochettino Totteham coach right? D guy nor bad at all.

he is a good coach...

diggz:


Try attracting those coaches again then see what happens. We have a reckless way of handling coaches,especially the good ones. I personally will be careful to take a cfc job if I were a coach and I am sure pochettino won't be steeewpid enough not to think twice before he touches anything cfc.

My opinion though not saying it's a fact.

True, except big money is involve.

EvilMetahuman:
batshuayi's goal against westrom gave chelsea points that night chelsea officially won the league.

Yes, goals like that.

Most goals ronaldo scored last season in champions league.


Ronaldo has a better chance of winning wopty ahead of messi despite messi having having a better stat or goals. Does that even mean anything to you?

Actually as at the 86th minute of that match, Chelsea already had a point in hand from the impending draw.

After Batshuayi scored, we still had to stop them from equalizing, which led to a series of substitutions and tactical fouls.

Now imagine this scenario, if say Craig Dawson had scored a last minute header for the baggies in literally the last kick of the game...would Batshuayi have ' given Chelsea points' as you claim?

Also, would Chelsea have left the Midlands with no points?

Answer on a postcard

lordfalcao:
he is a good coach...

Yeah he is.

Nihilstjnr:


Actually as at the 86th minute of that match, Chelsea already had a point in hand from the impending draw.

After Batshuayi scored, we still had to stop them from equalizing, which led to a series of substitutions and tactical fouls.

Now imagine this scenario, if say Craig Dawson had scored a last minute header for the baggies in literally the last kick of the game...would Batshuayi have ' given Chelsea points' as you claim?

Also, would Chelsea have left the Midlands with no points?

Answer on a postcard

Jamb question. Make i sit down learn

CapitalCee:


Ramdeuter

Opinions are like assholes everyone got one.

It was in this same thread someone told us Joe Cole was better than Schweinsteiger