Ibime:


Danny Drinkbleach

Thank God, you don't know my real name.

Griffon my G, I see you are doing the lords work on here

Ibime:


This is normal in the growth of a young player. As long as we include buyback clause, that means the club would have been happy to keep that player in the squad but the player wants to play every week. I told you that players establish themselves in a first 11 by sticking around the squad for years playing 5-10, then 10-20 games per year, sometimes waiting for an injury until they establish themselves.

Actually this isn't true.

This is from Neil Bath, Head of Youth Development at Chelsea
Realistically, to break into a first team like ours you need to have played 150 to 200 games at senior level. Even someone like Eden Hazard had done that in France before coming to Chelsea so the reality is our young players will need to experience the same, which is almost three full seasons out on loan. If a player goes out at 18 or 19 years old, that means they will be 22 years old before being able to really compete for a regular place in the team

Telling me about Alex Ferguson playing youth is a non-starter. Ferguson regularly over-achieved with his squad. The same team he used to Win the League, Moyes collected and finished 7th. Tom Cleverly that won the league with ferguson bounced from Everton to Watford on loan - no chance. Valencia that was doing well under Ferguson is now playing at Right Back to Survive. Phil Jones, Smalling etc. Ferguson worked magic at United please. That was an exception not the norm. If it's a lie, show us another Ferguson that is blooding youth and winning the league


If Ake was good enough, he would be starting. QED. He knew he wasn't, so he wasn't. Thats why he bounced. Simples.

lol 10-20 games a year.

That's 10 years before you're even ready to be considered for 1st team.

Ibime:

I told you that players establish themselves in a first 11 by sticking around the squad for years playing 5-10, then 10-20 games per year, sometimes waiting for an injury until they establish themselves. The loan system Chelsea use CRYSTALLIZES your transition to 1st team to just one year, where you either become a 1st team player immediately upon your return from a successful loan, or the club have to sell you within a year due to contractual impasse. Compare and contrast with Alex Ferguson system where he doesn't send you out on loan, but keeps you part of the team, giving you 3 to 5 years to get opportunities. As soon as Gary Neville gets injured, Wes Brown steps in for 2 years. As soon as Wes Brown gets injured, Rafael steps in for the next 3 years. As soon as Hargreaves gets injured, Darren Fletcher steps in for the next 5 years etc. That is how he kept John O'Shea, Johnny Evans, Wes Brown, Chris Smalling, Darren Fletcher, Rafael, Fabio etc growing into their skin for years and years. Whereas at Chelsea, you return from loan and have one year to make 1st 11 before your contract situation forces the club to sell you.

And just to add to this point about our loan system causing us to waste talent as opposed to SAF system of letting players grow within the club, what better example is there than Kevin De Bruyne and Lukaku who forced the club to sell them after going out on numerous loans, CRYSTALLIZING their return to Chelsea into a do-or-die affair where they ask the club to start them or sell them?

Same players are now record transfers being hailed by the same nigga that was dissing them 4 years ago. Yes, I am talking about Nihilist!

How can anyone chat shyte about a young nigga like Ake who turned himself into a £20m club record signing after just half-a-season loan?

The same Nihilist chatting shyte about Ake now was chatting nonsense about Lukaku back in 2013, promoting Torres over Lukaku back then when we were telling him Lukaku should be starting over Torres, he was busy arguing with strong head..

Same as in 2013, we are hearing nonsense about Drinkwater in 2017.

By 2019, he would become Akes biggest fan, telling us Mason Mount is rubbish and we should go and sign Ake for £50m.

Ibime:


The same Nihilist chatting shyte about Ake now was chatting nonsense about Lukaku back in 2013, promoting Torres over Lukaku back then when we were telling him Lukaku should be starting over Torres, he was busy arguing with strong head..

.

What kind of lie is this?

Has it gotten so bad after your argument has been comprehensively torn to pieces that you have to tell lies?

Nihilist:

What kind of lie is this?


Has it gotten so bad after your argument has been comprehensively torn to pieces that you have to tell lies?

Should we call Nateevs to testify who his biggest supporter on Torres issue was when we were calling for Sturridge or Lukaku instead?

Or maybe we should call Raumdeuter?

Lukaku and Sturridge were your Nathan Ake back in Torres era. No time for archaeology. I say the truth as it was.

Ibime:


And just to add to this point about our loan system causing us to waste talent as opposed to SAF system of letting players grow within the club, what better example is there than Kevin De Bruyne and Lukaku who forced the club to sell them after going out on numerous loans, CRYSTALLIZING their return to Chelsea into a do-or-die affair where they ask the club to start them or sell them?

Same players are now record transfers being hailed by the same nigga that was dissing them 4 years ago. Yes, I am talking about Nihilist!

How can anyone chat shyte about a young nigga who turned himself into a £20m record signing after just half-a-season loan?

The same Nihilist chatting shyte about Ake now was chatting nonsense about Lukaku back in 2013, promoting Torres over Lukaku back then when we were telling him Lukaku should be starting over Torres, he was busy arguing with strong head..

Same as in 2013, we are hearing nonsense about Drinkwater in 2017.

By 2019, he would become Akes biggest fan, telling us Mason Mount is rubbish and we should go and sign Ake for £50m.

Where are the archae boys? Abeg someone should help me verify Nihilist stand on lukaku as at 2013 because I can't really remember.

Cc airmark,raumdeuter,ibime,funlord


Omo.... Nihilist if we can get an evidence of you criticizing lukaku over Torres in 2013, I hope you know what that means?

Griffon na were u dey?

We need to employ some archae guys for digging things too you know..?

Ibime:


Should we call Nateevs to testify who his biggest supporter on Torres issue was when we were calling for Sturridge or Lukaku instead?

Or maybe we should call Raumdeuter?

Lukaku and Sturridge were your Nathan Ake back in Torres era. No time for archaeology. I say the truth as it was.

Dont worry I will help you with the searches.

My first account on NL was my Jackbauer one

Followed by Gustavofring

And then Nihilist

Note that I've actually been arguing with Nateevs over Lukaku for the last 4 years.

Ogbeni no need to be telling lies when you lose an argument. YOU tell me about Lukaku?

On this same forum where I'd been running a one-man Lukaku fan club for years?

Vanquay:


Who did he beat?

Win one-man race
Qualify for the semi-finals 200M

BlueAngel444:
If I had my way, buy rose £35m, Eric Dier £45m if Tottenham wants to be too stubborn add extra £5m each. THAT SOLVES A LOT, easily

Maybe extra £5m to redrom director levy first

Then Ox - £25m
VVD - £55m (too expensive)

Kyle Walker just move for around 50million bro and rose is better,except u get "do as I say" charm forget this Dream.

diggz:



Where are the archae boys? Abeg someone should help me verify Nihilist stand on lukaku as at 2013 because I can't really remember.

Cc airmark,raumdeuter,ibime,funlord


Omo.... Nihilist if we can get an evidence of you criticizing lukaku over Torres in 2013, I hope you know what that means?

You dey mind that liar?

You should know his steelo by now. He never lets trivial things like facts get in the way of his narratives

Nihilist:
Note that I've actually been arguing with Nateevs over Lukaku for the last 4 years.

Ogbeni no need to be telling lies when you lose an argument. YOU tell me about Lukaku?

On this same forum where I'd been running a one-man Lukaku fan club for years?

You are known for switching sides very quickly just like you switched from Pogba fan to Pogba hater in the last 18 months. . . and Kante doubter to Kante Superfan in the last 12 months.

So no need showing us 2014 and late 2013 posts after you must have switched sides after seeing Lukaku on loan doing what we told you he would do if given chance over Torres. Show us your 2012 and early 2013 posts defending Torres to high heavens.

Ibime:


You are known for switching sides very quickly just like you switched from Pogba fan to Pogba hater in the last 18 months. . . and Kante doubter to Kante Superfan in the last 12 months.

So no need showing us 2014 and late 2013 posts after you must have switched sides after seeing Lukaku on loan doing what we told you he would do if given chance over Torres. Show us your 2012 and early 2013 posts defending Torres to high heavens.

August 11 2013 is almost exactly 4 years to this very day, and I am on record saying before the start of the season that Lukaku should be our first choice striker

If you have any sense of dignity, you would either produce the evidence to back your claims or shut your lying mouth.

You lie so much, you must walk horizontally. Gosh!

Ermm..... Griffon! Na where you dey? We have mails to despatch tonight

Nihilist:


August 11 2013 is almost exactly 4 years to this very day, and I am on record saying before the start of the season that Lukaku should be our first choice striker

If you have any sense of dignity, you would either produce the evidence to back your claims or shut your lying mouth.

You lie so much, you must walk horizontally. Gosh!

No need for digging. It's all good. The past is the past.

Torres Camp - Nateevs, Cougar, Nihilist

Anti-Torres Camp - Me, Raumdeuter, FBS, Griffon, of which I constantly called for Torres to be dropped for Sturridge and Lukaku and was opposed.

Can't remember where lalaboi stood but I suspect anti-Torres Camp.

You switched and saw the light at some point just like you will switch and see the light on Ake soon. It is better to be an early mover and embrace change early, unlike Nateevs who kept on supporting Torres almost till the end.

Nihilist:


August 11 2013 is almost exactly 4 years to this very day, and I am on record saying before the start of the season that Lukaku should be our first choice striker

If you have any sense of dignity, you would either produce the evidence to back your claims or shut your lying mouth.

You lie so much, you must walk horizontally. Gosh!

hahahaha

Nihilist:


Dont worry I will help you with the searches.

My first account on NL was my Jackbauer one

Followed by Gustavofring

And then Nihilist

Nice evidence to support your position.

Nihilist:
lol 10-20 games a year.

That's 10 years before you're even ready to be considered for 1st team.

Jesus, the player should just retire on bench.




I see you, QED

Ibime:


No need for digging. It's all good. The past is the past.

Torres Camp - Nateevs, Cougar, Nihilist

Anti-Torres Camp - Me, Raumdeuter, FBS, Griffon, of which I constantly called for Torres to be dropped for Sturridge and Lukaku and was opposed.

Can't remember where lalaboi stood but I suspect anti-Torres Camp.

You switched and saw the light at some point just like you will switch and see the light on Ake soon. It is better to be an early mover and embrace change early, unlike Nateevs who kept on supporting Torres almost till the end.

No dey use emoji cover anything here. You lied. Own your lie.

Nihilist:


No dey use emoji cover anything here. You lied. Own your lie.

If you deny that you were in pro-Torres camp, then I might find strength to go digging.

Until then, what's understood ain't got to be said.

diggz:


Nice evidence to support your position.

Thank you. If you know how irritated I was reading such lies...i can remember discussing with my older brother who also supports Chelsea that Lukaku was destined for greatness when we signed him. We were so sure he was going to be Drogba Mark II.

Only for me to enter online and hear someone claiming that he told me about Lukaku.

Ibime:


If you deny that you were in pro-Torres camp, then I might find strength to go digging.

Until then, what's understood ain't got to be said.

My friend sharrap abeg. Either dig up the post or get out of my face.

diggz:
Griffon na were u dey?

We need to employ some archae guys for digging things too you know..?

That doesn't feature in our job description. You can set up that company if you wish to, its a great move and you have my blessings.

In the meantime, leave digging jobs for the miners federation of Great Britain.

Nihilist:

My friend sharrap abeg. Either dig up the post or get out of my face.

No strength. Athletics dey on. Were you in Torres camp or not? That was your key argument when you joined this thread in 2011. Summer 2013, you switched from Torres to Lukaku camp. All you need to do is deny you were strongly pro-Torres.

Nihilist:


August 11 2013 is almost exactly 4 years to this very day, and I am on record saying before the start of the season that Lukaku should be our first choice striker

If you have any sense of dignity, you would either produce the evidence to back your claims or shut your lying mouth.

You lie so much, you must walk[b]horizontally[/b]. Gosh!

oh lawd!!!

Griffon:


That doesn't feature in our job description. You can set up that company if you wish to, its a great move and you have my blessings.

In the meantime, leave digging jobs for the miners federation of Great Britain.

wonder what he would call it. Diggz diggers federation of

diggz:



Where are the archae boys? Abeg someone should help me verify Nihilist stand on lukaku as at 2013 because I can't really remember.

Cc airmark,raumdeuter,ibime,funlord


Omo.... Nihilist if we can get an evidence of you criticizing lukaku over Torres in 2013, I hope you know what that means?

Based on my x files which I am currently viewing.... I can categorically state that there is no evidence whatsoever of nihilist ever under cutting his adopted son lukaku at any point in time on this forum, in his dreams or even while playing ps4! He was the only one in fact who wept the day lukaku's transfer out of chelsea was finalized! This is pure slander and I would advice that nihilist sues for damages to prevent future occurrences!

I don't know Nihilist's stance on Torres vs Lukaku, but he was of the opinion the system was faulty which was why Torres was misfiring.

Pages 259 and 260.

Chelseafan1 hensben

Until Ake HAZARD wins the league playing for a team at 5000/1 odds, then he should shut up and take notes when MAHREZ speaks

Ditto Terry vs Wes Morgan