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Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by mikeolu1: 2:07am On Aug 11, 2017
http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1824

Above is a nice article about this subject. In the western world, suicide rate among Jehovah's Witness young ones is far higher than for the general population.
One of several reasons is the disfellowshipping practice among the jw, where families are supposed to totally shun anyone who leaves the jw organization.
The above article provides other reasons why.
If you are contemplating joining the Jehovah's witnesses, pls ask them questions about their practices, don't assume anything. They will shower you with love to cover all the terrible things going on within the organization. Research Research Research

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by Nobody: 2:50am On Aug 11, 2017
There was a lovely JW family near me. The husband murdered his wife, kids and himself. sad

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by mikeolu1: 3:30am On Aug 11, 2017
FortuneTeller:
There was a lovely JW family near me. The husband murdered his wife, kids and himself. sad
This is one fact most Jw and people they study with don't know.
It's a very tough life being a witness, week in week out, they the leadership taught them that the rank and file jw are not doing enough and may not make it through the destruction of this world if they don't do more for the organization.
This put so much enormous emotional pressure on the members.

It's a shame that many jw are decent but very beaten-down people.

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by rottennaija(m): 6:40am On Aug 11, 2017
mikeolu1:
http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1824

Above is a nice article about this subject. In the western world, suicide rate among Jehovah's Witness young ones is far higher than for the general population.
One of several reasons is the disfellowshipping practice among the jw, where families are supposed to totally shun anyone who leaves the jw organization.
The above article provides other reasons why.
If you are contemplating joining the Jehovah's witnesses, pls ask them questions about their practices, don't assume anything. They will shower you with love to cover all the terrible things going on within the organization. Research Research Research

I was totally appalled that this things happened within the organisation and most JWs don't know. In search of christian freedom, pages 606-613 gives a vivid description of how this happens inside bethel, but is carefully hidden by the organisation.

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by GodsMopol: 9:46am On Aug 11, 2017
mikeolu1
rottennaija
FortuneTelle*



What should we expect from a religion who's believe is centred on the absence of a possible reward or lose in the thereafter. At least, the present situation of poverty present in the world would result in what fortunetelle* mentioned above. Because you(they) have been highly brainwashed into believing that there is no gain or lose, so why would such person want to continue suffering on earth, without food and material possessions with the pain of seeing your children suffer and you have to go through too much rigour to feed them. The man would rather prefer to put a stop to such suffering and consider it- a act of love when he exterminate the improvised life they inherit from their brainwashed JW parents


I have always opined that JW is a satanic movement which has shortchanged the wisdom of God to mere wisdom of men 1 Corinth 1:17, I used Bible search to locate the verse.
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by Nobody: 10:28am On Aug 11, 2017
I'm going to have to excuse myself from this thread. Please refrain from mentioning me again. It's bringing back too many memories of the lovely family I spoke about. cry
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by mikeolu1: 1:14pm On Aug 11, 2017
rottennaija:


I was totally appalled that this things happened within the organisation and most JWs don't know. In search of christian freedom, pages 606-613 gives a vivid description of how this happens inside bethel, but is carefully hidden by the organisation.
Witnesses are discouraged from doing any research using publications outside of the watchtower.
Gradually most witnesses come to fear doing any kind of research.
The internet has done a good job to uncover what's been going on in many bethel homes and many congregations.
One only needs to google the phrase "Jehovah's witnesses " and one will be shocked to see how much the governing body doesn't want the rank and file to know.
That's the big reason the leadership don't want jws to go university where they willl learn to do critical thinking and deep reasoning.
Just listen to gb Losch here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R4f9ygxDbk
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by GodsMopol: 2:01pm On Aug 11, 2017
mikeolu1:

Witnesses are discouraged from doing any research using publications outside of the watchtower.
Gradually most witnesses come to fear doing any kind of research.

are you an ex JW, cause they are some stiff necked set of being
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by mikeolu1: 2:24pm On Aug 11, 2017
GodsMopol:


are you an ex JW, cause they are some stiff necked set of being
No I am not. I am actually still in but can't get out for now.
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by mikeolu1: 2:25pm On Aug 11, 2017
FortuneTeller:
I'm going to have to excuse myself from this thread. Please refrain from mentioning me again. It's bringing back too many memories of the lovely family I spoke about. cry

Sorry for the pain.
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by GodsMopol: 3:25pm On Aug 11, 2017
mikeolu1:
No I am not. I am actually still in but can't get out for now.
parental ish shey

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by mikeolu1: 3:36pm On Aug 11, 2017
GodsMopol:


parental ish shey
Family generally. It's a terrible situation where you can't leave or express doubts without huge punishment

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by mikeolu1: 3:41pm On Aug 11, 2017
This video came out few days ago in Canada.
What happens when you leave jw http://www.citynews.ca/video/2017/08/10/video-leaving-the-jehovahs-witnesses/
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by rottennaija(m): 6:48pm On Aug 11, 2017
mikeolu1:

Witnesses are discouraged from doing any research using publications outside of the watchtower.
Gradually most witnesses come to fear doing any kind of research.
The internet has done a good job to uncover what's been going on in many bethel homes and many congregations.
One only needs to google the phrase "Jehovah's witnesses " and one will be shocked to see how much the governing body doesn't want the rank and file to know.
That's the big reason the leadership don't want jws to go university where they willl learn to do critical thinking and deep reasoning.
Just listen to gb Losch here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R4f9ygxDbk


I know all these. I have been a JW for long. But with time, our activism will pay off.

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by mikeolu1: 7:15pm On Aug 11, 2017
rottennaija:



I know all these. I have been a JW for long. But with time, our activism will pay off.
Spread the word. It's getting louder.
BBC has done 3 programs on jw in the last 1 month and so are several other major tvs and magazines

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by joyandfaith: 8:58pm On Aug 11, 2017
@mikeolu@rottennaija, if you are having problems with some practices or beliefs, I will advise you to write governing body of Jehovah witnesses, explain your positions humbly and clearly. I promise that you will be attended to. forming activism does not help you.it is even betray of trust if you are leaking letter of any organization you are affliated to. how would you feel if someone send letter to you and your son posts the online for all to see because if he feels he needs to expose you. gal 6:7.
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by rottennaija(m): 9:38pm On Aug 11, 2017
joyandfaith:
@mikeolu@rottennaija, if you are having problems with some practices or beliefs, I will advise you to write governing body of Jehovah witnesses, explain your positions humbly and clearly. I promise that you will be attended to. forming activism does not help you.it is even betray of trust if you are leaking letter of any organization you are affliated to. how would you feel if someone send letter to you and your son posts the online for all to see because if he feels he needs to expose you. gal 6:7.

Why use the bolded?
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by Lightning07(m): 1:06am On Aug 12, 2017
mikeolu1:

Family generally. It's a terrible situation where you can't leave or express doubts without huge punishment
I'll advise you to make up your mind. I believe deep down you know the right thing to do
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by Hier(m): 2:53am On Aug 12, 2017
joyandfaith:
@mikeolu@rottennaija, if you are having problems with some practices gea beliefs, I will advise you to write governing body of Jehovah witnesses, explain your positions humbly and clearly. I promise that you will be attended to. forming activism does not help you.it is even betray of trust if you are leaking letter of any organization you are affliated to. how would you feel if someone send letter to you and your son posts the online for all to see because if he feels he needs to expose you. gal 6:7.

Is Jw an organization? I mean, what does it mean when you call it an organization?
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by Hier(m): 2:58am On Aug 12, 2017
Lightning07:

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I'll advise you to make up your mind. I believe deep down you know the right thing to do


perspective differs, what do you think is the right thing they could do?
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by shadeyinka(m): 10:13am On Aug 12, 2017
What do you expect of a religion that believes that he'll doesn't exist. A religion that believes that once a person dies, he doesn't exist again.

I am not surprised.
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by Hier(m): 11:15am On Aug 12, 2017
shadeyinka:
What do you expect of a religion that believes that he'll doesn't exist. A religion that believes that once a person dies, he doesn't exist again.

I am not surprised.

I was debating a JW along this line some days ago, and I happen to ask the same question. but he waved it. Something was telling me on the inside that such would be happening. Though this thread just happen to affirm my claim.


I wonder why anyone would want to suffer so much in this present world, knowing he can put an end to his or her suffering and it all ends there. Its like saying, if I sweep my room, I won't be arrested. But sweeping becomes very hard a thing to do, when I know I would be arrested, I would be careful how I sweep. pls, sir or ma, if you have any means of exposing this JW folks, I would advise it would be a just one cause many people and supposedly, generations to come would fall into such menace.
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by rottennaija(m): 11:21am On Aug 12, 2017
joyandfaith:
@mikeolu@rottennaija, if you are having problems with some practices or beliefs, I will advise you to write governing body of Jehovah witnesses, explain your positions humbly and clearly. I promise that you will be attended to. forming activism does not help you.it is even betray of trust if you are leaking letter of any organization you are affliated to. how would you feel if someone send letter to you and your son posts the online for all to see because if he feels he needs to expose you. gal 6:7.

Maybe you are not aware of the history of your jw organization. Putting it shortly, letters had been written before, scriptural prove had been given about doctrines and policies. The point is, the organisation feels it knows all and above correction from anyone or their members(rank and file) except they are the ones doing the correction themselves.

At the same time, they make it hard for people that can no longer put up their unscriptural practices and policies to leave the organisation. They make your life miserable, friends and family shuns you or they risk shunning themselves.

My point is, all what you are suggesting had been done before, time again and again. The problem is, immediately you try that, the organisation marks you and then if care is not taken or you recant, you feel the full weight of the organisation control and power.

So... Quoting words of one movie I saw (I can't remember) "all that is left is to run"

What I am saying it, this is the only way JWs members can be help to realise what has been happening within them they don't know. Activism, exposure, leaks and explanations of what they don't understand.

Because taking the proper channel like you have suggested, the organization shuts you down before you can even start. You may not fully appreciate and understand the gravity of all that I have written. It's only when you're in the situation you will understand fully. But I would suggest you research a little about disagreeing with organisations doctrine or policies and you will be surprised and shocked

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by shadeyinka(m): 12:12pm On Aug 12, 2017
Hier:


I was debating a JW along this line some days ago, and I happen to ask the same question. but he waved it. Something was telling me on the inside that such would be happening. Though this thread just happen to affirm my claim.


I wonder why anyone would want to suffer so much in this present world, knowing he can put an end to his or her suffering and it all ends there. Its like saying, if I sweep my room, I won't be arrested. But sweeping becomes very hard a thing to do, when I know I would be arrested, I would be careful how I sweep. pls, sir or ma, if you have any means of exposing this JW folks, I would advise it would be a just one cause many people and supposedly, generations to come would fall into such menace.

That's the problem of having a form of religion but denying the power withing it. The religious aspect of dutiful study, prayers, righteous living has blinded them to the "relationship" they should have instead, the formed another relationship based on the form of religion.

The bound they are in is extremely strong. To break free, they need Gods intervention (because they have it all tied together with their own answers) so that they can never see the truth.

The best we can do is to Pray for them in Love and attempt to help them see the purpose of Christ's sacrifice and coming.
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by mikeolu1: 4:02pm On Aug 12, 2017
joyandfaith:
@mikeolu@rottennaija, if you are having problems with some practices or beliefs, I will advise you to write governing body of Jehovah witnesses, explain your positions humbly and clearly. I promise that you will be attended to. forming activism does not help you.it is even betray of trust if you are leaking letter of any organization you are affliated to. how would you feel if someone send letter to you and your son posts the online for all to see because if he feels he needs to expose you. gal 6:7.

If you are as much as express doubt, you are on your way out. To write to the gb! Ha! Many who have done it have been labeled apostates. That "A" word, for a jw to be identified as apostate is worst than having aids or hiv or leprosy.
As per the leak, I am not leaking anything. These letters are all over the internet, that's even before the cong receives the letters.
Jehovah's Witness organization is consists of 8 million, half of this people want to leave but are stuck with no way out. It's like North Korea.

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by Hier(m): 6:32pm On Aug 12, 2017
shadeyinka:


That's the problem of having a form of religion but denying the power withing it. The religious aspect of dutiful study, prayers, righteous living has blinded them to the "relationship" they should have instead, the formed another relationship based on the form of religion.

The bound they are in is extremely strong. To break free, they need Gods intervention (because they have it all tied together with their own answers) so that they can never see the truth.

The best we can do is to Pray for them in Love and attempt to help them see the purpose of Christ's sacrifice and coming.

you are right, their own answers and interpretations
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by mikeolu1: 7:22pm On Aug 12, 2017
Hier:


Is Jw an organization? I mean, what does it mean when you call it an organization?
Jw refer to it as "gods organization".
They believe anyone who does not come into that organization when gods kingdom comes will be destroyed. There are about 8 million jw worldwide. Of these, the non-serious or inactive ones as well as the rest of mankind 7 billion+ will be destroyed.
That's it from jw land.
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by funbat(m): 8:17pm On Aug 12, 2017
lol... I am jw, I hold my truth, I made some changes within my self, I reason freely, that's how I live my life and am happy, cos I love the religion, but some doctrines am not soo cool with, like shinning family member or friends that are not jw, i ambrave them all withy heart, I appreciate God any time I add new age, soo many.. but. ever the less am jw for life, no other religion is better
this religion revealed a lot of truth to me so ama hold on forever
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by shadeyinka(m): 9:18pm On Aug 12, 2017
Hier:


you are right, their own answers and interpretations

Stay Blessed Bro!

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by achorladey: 10:39pm On Aug 12, 2017
mikeolu1:
http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1824

Above is a nice article about this subject. In the western world, suicide rate among Jehovah's Witness young ones is far higher than for the general population.
One of several reasons is the disfellowshipping practice among the jw, where families are supposed to totally shun anyone who leaves the jw organization.
The above article provides other reasons why.
If you are contemplating joining the Jehovah's witnesses, pls ask them questions about their practices, don't assume anything. They will shower you with love to cover all the terrible things going on within the organization. Research Research Research
its easy to post numerous things like these on platforms of this nature. I only hope you dont backtrack on them later in life. The undercover operation you are doing seems okay by you. What baffles me is, your still in the organisation because of family ties and not fully out of the organisation and you are using your numerous post and this platform to discourage others who are willing and looking forward to learning from the Jws not to do so while you on the otherhand you still enjoy certain privilege if not all. Please when you backtrack later in life on this your post, comeback on this platform as well to change the mindset of the little ones that are drawn to your numerous post.
Take heed...... The signs of the times are here!!!!!!! To whom it may concern.
Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by 701ecilana: 2:16am On Aug 13, 2017
joyandfaith:
@mikeolu@rottennaija, if you are having problems with some practices or beliefs, I will advise you to write governing body of Jehovah witnesses, explain your positions humbly and clearly. I promise that you will be attended to. forming activism does not help you.it is even betray of trust if you are leaking letter of any organization you are affliated to. how would you feel if someone send letter to you and your son posts the online for all to see because if he feels he needs to expose you. gal 6:7.
Leaking ke shocked shocked? Na cult? Should we believe that JW is indeed not Christian? Should anything about Christianity be hidden to be leaked? shocked shocked

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses Suicide Rate 5 To 10 Times Above Average by 701ecilana: 2:22am On Aug 13, 2017
Hier:


I was debating a JW along this line some days ago, and I happen to ask the same question. but he waved it. Something was telling me on the inside that such would be happening. Though this thread just happen to affirm my claim.


I wonder why anyone would want to suffer so much in this present world, knowing he can put an end to his or her suffering and it all ends there. Its like saying, if I sweep my room, I won't be arrested. But sweeping becomes very hard a thing to do, when I know I would be arrested, I would be careful how I sweep. pls, sir or ma, if you have any means of exposing this JW folks, I would advise it would be a just one cause many people and supposedly, generations to come would fall into such menace.
JW are closet atheists. They are materialists. They don't believe in the supernatural realm.

How does one believe in God but doesn't believe in the afterlife?

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