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Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Marhyaam(f): 2:43pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Asalam alaekum... A sister had a scary dream and when she woke up her inner mind or let's call it an invisible voice told her to observe a seven days fasting but fortunately for her,her family decided to join her...is it right for them to reduce it to 3days fasting since they are all partaking in the fast. Cc.. Mofpearl, Abdekabir, Alennsar |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Sissie(f): 2:53pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
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Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Marhyaam(f): 2:54pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Alright.... Jazakumullah khairan |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by iamgenius(m): 3:38pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Marhyaam:Wa Alaykum Salaam. Their fast is not even valid, Why? Because according to what you said; INNER MIND OR INVISIBLE VOICE. What is d meaning of that? There is difference if she and her family just decided to fast without being told by the invisible voice or someone. To be honest with you, that inner mind or voice is d shaytan, he's d one who whispers dat fast into her mind trying to lead her into bidah(innovation). I'm not saying it's haraam to engage in fasting as long as you wish to. Her action is akin to bidah, coz she( her inner mind) is prescribing what is not allowed to her, it even give her d number of fast and engaging her family into d fast. |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by iamgenius(m): 4:21pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Sissie:Pls dont look at one angle b4 you answer an islamic question. The Prophet(peace be upon him) says: A judge who judges a matter correctly will have two rewards, A judge that tried to reach a correct judgement but later erred will have one reward. May Allah Straighten Our Ways.Aamen |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Alennsar(f): 4:27pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Marhyaam: walaykum salam. did she make any dua or adkhar when she woke up? if no den she need to pray about it on her own. but d fasting issue is not valid to me and if her mind is not settled about it, she should make tahajud and ask Allah to save her from all evils both seen Nd unseen. Allahu knows best........, |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Marhyaam(f): 4:43pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Alennsar:Yes she made Dua..Bt the idea of tahaajud isn't that Bad will tell her to do that left to me their is no harm in trying that.. Jazakumullah khairan 1 Like |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Marhyaam(f): 4:47pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
iamgenius:Bidahh? Do you mean the fast they observed is an Haram... But we were made to understand by the scholars that fasting is a way of waving off evils..... Needs more enlightenment on that 1 Like |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Sissie(f): 4:54pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
An inner mind or voice can be instincts, or a way of talking to oneself. For example something good happens to me, and my mind tells me to do sadaqa as a way of gaining Allah's Favour or saying Alhamdulilah nothing wrong with that. Inner mind or invisible voice doesn't necessarily mean jinn whisperings. And her family decides to join her, that's alright. Fasting can be done for different reasons, it's not just during Ramadan or mondays and Thursday. Fasting is a form of dua. One can decide to do tahajjud of 10 rakats, and along the way decide to do 8 not 10 all join. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Sissie(f): 4:55pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
iamgenius: Next time, ask me why I advised her like that, and don't tell me what to do, because you don't agree. Drop your advice and leave it alone. |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Marhyaam(f): 5:00pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Sissie:Alhamdulillahi...... I think I get your point..... Jazakumullah khairan |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Sissie(f): 5:04pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
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Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Nobody: 5:06pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
iamgenius:IS IT MUKAFIROH OR MUFASIKOH? |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Nobody: 5:11pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Marhyaam:1. What did rasul tell us to do when we have good or bad dream? 2. Can we decide to dedicate a nafilat to our need or fast for #m# number of days for our needs to easen up? . . .my sister, the kind of ibaadat that did not have proof in islam is bida. .please stay away . TRY TO LEARN RASUL PRAYERS ON HAVING BAD OR GOOD DREAMS. salam alaykum |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by iamgenius(m): 6:08pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Sissie:Ok ma, dat's a lesson for me. Sincerely I neither mean to give anybody Bad Radd or call anybody a mubtadi'. |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by iamgenius(m): 6:13pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
AbuUthaymeen:I don't know which of d printers u have with u now. You can decide to print Shahaadatu Kufr or Shahaadatu Bid'ah to give everyone. |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Mofpearl: 6:24pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Marhyaam: |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Sissie(f): 6:35pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Most important is to do what was prescribed after bad dreams. And she should not make it a habit of fasting after every bad dream but a one time thing. because then it becomes problematic. For what to do after bad dream read this link: https://islamqa.info/en/9577 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by iamgenius(m): 7:02pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Sissie:That's what I was trying to explain. Whenever I'm being asked a question, I usually think of what d result could be. U know, this is Nigeria where people are used to turning Sunnah to bid'ah. Some people don't even want the truth explained to them, coz they have already decided what to do for their mind. They only want scholars to make mistake and pass their bidah for them whilst the scholars know not what their intention is. May Allah guide us Aameen. |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Nobody: 7:25pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
Marhyaam: Fasting is a good deed and one of the deeds that takes one closer to Allaah subhanahu wa ta'ala.....but fasting for this reason is invalid, we have two types of bidah, bidah asliyyah(it has no basis at all in the religion such as someone standing under the sun to worship Allaah) and bidah idaafiyyah(it has basis in the religion but not doing it according to the sunnah such as group dhikr that the sufis do) Now fasting for this reason is bidah and it is bidah idaafiyyah, yes there is fasting in Islam but you don't fast for this reason, for it to even have a particular number of days shows that it is clearly bidah, wa kullu bidatin dhalaala(ALL bidah is misguidance)..... Whatever she saw in the dream is from shaytaan and they are many measures that can be taken to prevent this, this reminds me of the statement of imam al-barbahaari that there is no particular bidah except that it has a sunnah that resembles it, shaytaan may the curse of Allaah be upon him tries to make you believe this fasting of seven days will prevent the bad dreams or the evil that will happen whereas there is a sunnah, a measure to prevent this that has proof from the sunnah.... All you have to do is spit to the left three times according to how you slept and say "audhubillaahi Minash shaytaanir rajeem" and turn to the other side and sleep, it will not harm him, simple.... By the way, telling people about your bad dream is discouraged.... 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Nobody: 7:26pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
iamgenius:Simple question you cant answer . . then explain mukafirah and mufaziko bida |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by iamgenius(m): 7:33pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
AbuUthaymeen:I think u just hear those words for d first time. The only topic u knw is about Kufr And Bid'ah. Be Patient For Knowledge. |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by ikupakuti(m): 8:05pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
@empiree Coman see drama o. E dey happen ![]() ![]() ![]() Some even came printer to print the USUAL ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by iamgenius(m): 8:09pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
ikupakuti:LOL |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Empiree: 8:22pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
AbuUthaymeen: iamgenius:face me I face you. O ya, let's fatwa begins ![]() this one still arguing over group dhikr. Nonsense. Despite clear evidences shown to him. Rubbish |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Marhyaam(f): 8:26pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
#Sigh#..i really appreciate your contributions@sissie I get your point and I will check the link In Sha Allah... To others who think it's bidah I clearly get your points also and may Almighty Allah guide and direct our minds to the right path(Ameen) |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by ikupakuti(m): 8:35pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
iamgenius: To refute a claim you have to be 100% of the source/basis of your refutation. How are you so cock-sure the inner voice belongs to shaiytan ? Do you realize that you‘ll stand & be charged before GOD for this false allegation you made against him even if it turns out to be his voice ? People think because hes condemned then he can be accused wrongly. You better start seeking his forgiveness ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Empiree: 8:47pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
ikupakuti:they are incredible. Every slight thing is labelled something ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by iamgenius(m): 9:01pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
ikupakuti:Ok Sir, I'm just a student. Whose forgiveness should I seek? |
Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by ikupakuti(m): 9:13pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
iamgenius: The one you wrongly accused (shaiytan), even though we both know he wont forgive you. God will pay him off from your account (good deeds). It wont benefit him @ the end but it will depreciate your credit balance. SOLUTION : Follow up the wrong you did with a good deed. Bye. 1 Like |
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