An Islamic scholar and leader of the Tijjaniyya sect, Dahiru Bauchi, has said that Shi’ah and Tijjaniyya sects are the same.

Mr Bauchi stated this while receiving a delegation of Shi’ah followers on a courtesy call at his Kano residence on Monday.

He said both Tijjaniyya and Shi’ah are followers of Prophet Muhammad and lovers of his family.

He added that there was no grudge or disharmony between the two sects.

“Both Tijjaniyya and Shi’ah are the same. We are the same in following prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the love of his family.

“A true Muslim must believe in prophet Muhammad and love his family. So both of us believe in him. So we are the same,” reiterated.

Mr Bauchi further said that the crisis between the two sects was the handiwork of some elements bent on causing disaffection among them.

He stressed that Tijjaniyya was not angry with any Islamic sect, adding that their arms are always open to embrace every Muslim.

He commended the Shi’ah delegation for the visit, describing it as a huge step toward cementing disunity in Islam.

Earlier in a remark, the leader of the Shi’ah delegation, Yakubu Yahya, said they paid the visit to congratulate the Tijjaniyya leader on his completion of this year’s Ramadan Tafsir.

He said Shi’ah adherents hold the revered cleric with high esteem, adding that they were there to further strengthen their ties.



https://dailynigerian.com/news/tijjaniyya-and-shiah-are-same-says-sheikh-dahiru-bauchi/

Cc. AbdelKabir Demmzy15 mofpearl empiree

Okay, good one. Gradual steps forward to bring muslims together



but on this condition.....(see attachments from Tijjaniya fb page)

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Empiree:
Okay, good one. Gradual steps forward to bring muslims together



but on this condition.....(see attachments)

He is #number 1 oga of tijjaniyya in Nigeria.

He is telling us, u pple are the same in insulting the wives of the prophet and other atrocities. Only that the Taqiya of Tijjaniyya is bigger. That's what I deduced from the word same

We are not the same and we will never be the same with who legalized lying, formication and insult our mothers.

I dont even have time for argument in this Blessed month. Their statements from attachments is clear. You and Shia, none of you is ready, willing and able to make any valid positive approach to achieve unity but only ready to fight things out.

Only larger part of sufis i see make sense toward peace and unity. And sufis are the largest in the world of islam. Your statements above once again validate what a sister said about salafism some 7 yrs ago. It is clear you guys can not live in peace with neighbours or tolerate differences.

Throughout the beginning of ramadan, it was salafis versus shia arguing over some dump topics, and i wondered if you guys were even fasting. No sufis involved with you people in back n fourth arguments. They are busy with ibadah. This got me thinking like where is "sunnah" that you preached?

You want to start your rant Abi. If na you dey accept our fast why not reject it. Check my other account and point out a single argument between Shi'a and Muslim since the beginning of this Ramadan.

Unity will never be achieved with those who curse the wives of the prophet.

You can go and unit with them since you're the same with them as he Said.

Mofpearl what happen to Muslimsaffairs.com

FNG1:
Mofpearl what happen to Muslimsaffairs.com

The site is currently down because of hosting issues. I hope it's back ASAP.

Mofpearl:


The site is currently down because of hosting issues. I hope it's back ASAP.

Ok Noted.

FNG1:


Ok Noted.

Thanks for visiting the forum!

FNG1:


Ok Noted.

The forum is back!

Mofpearl:


The forum is back!

Thank you. Let me come and be going.

FNG1:


He is #number 1 oga of tijjaniyya in Nigeria.

He is telling us, u pple are the same in insulting the wives of the prophet and other atrocities. Only that the Taqiya of Tijjaniyya is bigger. That's what I deduced from the word same

This is what the man said:

FNG1:


“Both Tijjaniyya and Shi’ah are the same. We are the same in following prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the love of his family.

“A true Muslim must believe in prophet Muhammad and love his family. So both of us believe in him. So we are the same,” reiterated.

https://dailynigerian.com/news/tijjaniyya-and-shiah-are-same-says-sheikh-dahiru-bauchi/

# You can clearly see how desperate you are. Its an obsession really.

# Even if you hate both sects with passion, is it also a Sunnah of the Prophet whom you claimed to be following that you must lie and deduced outside what you yourself posted? What kind of human being are you?

# Haba! Ninu àwè! E si beru Olohun.

AlBaqir:



This is what the man said:




# You can clearly see how desperate you are. Its an obsession really.

# Even if you hate both sects with passion, is it also a Sunnah of the Prophet whom you claimed to be following that you must lie and deduced outside what you yourself posted? What kind of human being are you?

It is a pure lie. Shi'a don't love the family of the prophet. Do Shi'a love Aisha r.d ? The sheik has contradict himself.

Him and those that insult Aisha are same.

Tijjaniyya too have their own wahala too but it is a million percent better than those who insult the wives of the prophet while hypocritically claiming to love.

I know some tijjaniy will disown and dissociate themselves from his statement but amazingly people like empiree are justifying it

# Haba! Ninu àwè! E si beru Olohun.

Riduane whats this one saying.

FNG1:



It is a pure lie. Shi'a don't love the family of the prophet. Do Shi'a love Aisha r.d ? The sheik has contradict himself.

Him and those that insult Aisha are same.

Tijjaniyya too have their own wahala too but it is a million percent better than those who insult the wives of the prophet while hypocritically claiming to love.

I know some tijjaniy will disown and dissociate themselves from his statement but amazingly people like empiree are justifying it

Why is it that you guys like sectarian clash like this??

Riduane whats this one saying.

He said you should fear Allah.

Riduane:


Why is it that you guys like sectarian clash like this??

I hate when someone who curse the wives of the prophet and still claim to love the prophet. And someone 4rm other side is saying we are the same.

[quote,]

He said you should fear Allah.[/quote]

Ok

FNG1:


Unity will never be achieved with those who curse the wives of the prophet.

We have clear this over time and again but you people love this propaganda a lot and prefer to derive sympathy out of it.

# Obviously there are fractions of fanatical shia who had made it their national anthem to curse publicly and privately certain personalities of Muslim world. Aisha, Hafsa, Umar, Uthman and Abu Bakr in particular.

# The two world most recognised Shia Ulama in Ayatullah Sayyid Ali Khameini and Ayatullah Sayyid Ali Sistani alongside countless Shia Maraji ruled that cursing or abusing any of the above mentioned figures is HARAM. Here is:

# Fatwa of Imām al-Khāmeneī (may Allah protect him):


http://www.rohama.org/en/news/2940/imam-khamenei-
insulting-symbols-of-sunni-brothers-forbidden

Ayatollah Khamenei issued a fatwa, declared unlawful the
insulting Prophet's wife Aisha, and any of the Sunni Islamic
symbols.

http://rohama.org/en/pages/content.php?id=91

Islamic World widely welcomed the fatwa, Rohama reported.


The leader of Islamic revolution in response to question
announced: "insulting the symbols of the Sunni brothers,
including the Prophet Muhammad's wife [Aisha] is
FORBIDDEN . This includes the women of all prophets and
especially the holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) ."


# And, Āyatullāh al-Sistānī (may Allāh protect him) has a
similar fatwā:


The Question :

as-Salamu Alykum wa rahmatu Allah wa barakatuhu,
A video clip has been seen several times on social network
web sites showing a congregation during the martyrdom of
al-Imam al-Jawad (a.s.). This group of people from the area
known as al-A'dhamiyyah are shown shouting out insults
upon 'Omar, A’isha, and others. Is this type of behavior
condemned by the supreme religious authority, especially
since it involves the insult of religious figures of our brothers of the Sunni school of thought, and it could potentially fuel unrest amongst the people of Iraq and jeopardize peace?



The Answer:


In The Name of Allah, The Beneficent, The Merciful
This type of behavior is condemned, strongly denounced
AND CONTRARY TO THE COMMANDS OF THE IMAMS of the Holy Household of the Prophet (s.a.w.a.) to their followers. Allah is The Guide.


The Office of Ayatullah Sayyid al-Sistani

The Holy City of Najaf

12/2/1434


# Whether you call it Taqiyyah or no taqiyyah, Shia majority strongest submission to dismiss the act of those nuisance shia that practice cursing and abusing (especially on their satellite TV and websites) is that:

* There is no single authentic shia hadith that support cursing or abusing of those figures, and none of the Aimmah of Nabi's ahlulbayt practiced such. The best example is Imam Ali after conquering Aisha and her rebel group. Imam still maintained her dignity as the wife of Nabi and mother of Muslim. This is a very strong shia hadith.

# It is however in our believe based on clear documents of both Sunni and Shia that those personalities committed crimes during and especially after the demise of Nabi; and being whatever to the Prophet does not absolve you of your crimes. If we go historical in a dialogue or debate and bring out all these undeniable facts, that never amounts to cursing or abusing.

FNG1:

You can go and unit with them since you're the same with them as he Said.

# Like what an American Sunni Imam said, "I call for Muslim unity and note, it (unity) is for those who wish to be united.

# Shia and Sunni worldwide have enjoyed a very good relationship in the past and till date.

# Although there are fights among them (Sunni and Shia) in other areas of the world, as there are even fights among many Sunni divisions, and Shia divisions.

# Then, all Muslim sects are rejected by the Wahabist.

The truth is Sahabah themselves started and established this sectarian and political frictions. They fought and killed themselves, hated, abused and cursed themselves. Unfortunately, that is what we continue till date.

# Whoever sincerely call for Muslim's unity and achieved even a fraction percentage has indeed followed the Quran and Nabi.

FNG1:



It is a pure lie. Shi'a don't love the family of the prophet. Do Shi'a love Aisha r.d ? The sheik has contradict himself.

Him and those that insult Aisha are same.

Tijjaniyya too have their own wahala too but it is a million percent better than those who insult the wives of the prophet while hypocritically claiming to love.

I know some tijjaniy will disown and dissociate themselves from his statement but amazingly people like empiree are justifying it

# All the above is entirely another argument. The fact still remain that you lied against the sheik and deliberately deduced outside his submission. So don't try and shift the goalpost here.

FNG1:

Riduane whats this one saying.

# Oh! you be Aboki.

AlBaqir:


# All the above is entirely another argument. The fact still remain that you lied against the sheik and deliberately deduced outside his submission. So don't try and shift the goalpost here.

No. Nothing like shifting goal post. You and him are the same that's what he said.

Shia = Tijjaniyya

Insulting the prophet wives you're the same.

Legalizing Formication you're the same

Legalising Taqiya you're the same.

# Oh! you be Aboki.

No I am afonja.

AlBaqir:


We have clear this over time and again but you people love this propaganda a lot and prefer to derive sympathy out of it.

# Obviously there are fractions of fanatical shia who had made it their national anthem to curse publicly and privately certain personalities of Muslim world. Aisha, Hafsa, Umar, Uthman and Abu Bakr in particular.

# The two world most recognised Shia Ulama in Ayatullah Sayyid Ali Khameini and Ayatullah Sayyid Ali Sistani alongside countless Shia Maraji ruled that cursing or abusing any of the above mentioned figures is HARAM. Here is:

# Fatwa of Imām al-Khāmeneī (may Allah protect him):


http://www.rohama.org/en/news/2940/imam-khamenei-
insulting-symbols-of-sunni-brothers-forbidden

Ayatollah Khamenei issued a fatwa, declared unlawful the
insulting Prophet's wife Aisha, and any of the Sunni Islamic
symbols.

http://rohama.org/en/pages/content.php?id=91

Islamic World widely welcomed the fatwa, Rohama reported.


The leader of Islamic revolution in response to question
announced: "insulting the symbols of the Sunni brothers,
including the Prophet Muhammad's wife [Aisha] is
FORBIDDEN . This includes the women of all prophets and
especially the holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) ."


# And, Āyatullāh al-Sistānī (may Allāh protect him) has a
similar fatwā:


The Question :

as-Salamu Alykum wa rahmatu Allah wa barakatuhu,
A video clip has been seen several times on social network
web sites showing a congregation during the martyrdom of
al-Imam al-Jawad (a.s.). This group of people from the area
known as al-A'dhamiyyah are shown shouting out insults
upon 'Omar, A’isha, and others. Is this type of behavior
condemned by the supreme religious authority, especially
since it involves the insult of religious figures of our brothers of the Sunni school of thought, and it could potentially fuel unrest amongst the people of Iraq and jeopardize peace?



The Answer:


In The Name of Allah, The Beneficent, The Merciful
This type of behavior is condemned, strongly denounced
AND CONTRARY TO THE COMMANDS OF THE IMAMS of the Holy Household of the Prophet (s.a.w.a.) to their followers. Allah is The Guide.


The Office of Ayatullah Sayyid al-Sistani

The Holy City of Najaf

12/2/1434


# Whether you call it Taqiyyah or no taqiyyah, Shia majority strongest submission to dismiss the act of those nuisance shia that practice cursing and abusing (especially on their satellite TV and websites) is that:

* There is no single authentic shia hadith that support cursing or abusing of those figures, and none of the Aimmah of Nabi's ahlulbayt practiced such. The best example is Imam Ali after conquering Aisha and her rebel group. Imam still maintained her dignity as the wife of Nabi and mother of Muslim. This is a very strong shia hadith.

# It is however in our believe based on clear documents of both Sunni and Shia that those personalities committed crimes during and especially after the demise of Nabi; and being whatever to the Prophet does not absolve you of your crimes. If we go historical in a dialogue or debate and bring out all these undeniable facts, that never amounts to cursing or abusing.





# Like what an American Sunni Imam said, "I call for Muslim unity and note, it (unity) is for those who wish to be united.

# Shia and Sunni worldwide have enjoyed a very good relationship in the past and till date.

# Although there are fights among them (Sunni and Shia) in other areas of the world, as there are even fights among many Sunni divisions, and Shia divisions.

# Then, all Muslim sects are rejected by the Wahabist.

The truth is Sahabah themselves started and established this sectarian and political frictions. They fought and killed themselves, hated, abused and cursed themselves. Unfortunately, that is what we continue till date.

# Whoever sincerely call for Muslim's unity and achieved even a fraction percentage has indeed followed the Quran and Nabi.

I don't have time for this: The shia he (sheik) is referring too, is the major body of the Nigerian Shi'a (IMN). Zazzaki followers.

IMN do insult Aisha r.d. They even name a goat before her name in Katsina. I can share a video of Zazzaki with you publicly insulting companions.



And the same sheik says we are the same.

FNG1:


I hate when someone who curse the wives of the prophet and still claim to love the prophet. And someone 4rm other side is saying we are the same.

# Ma sha Allah. Now let me test your faith and passion.

# Just for the sake of dialogue (and if you wish to call it argument), if truly you hate those people (though they are very wrong as I have established), why do you:

* Love Mu'awiyah Ibn Abu Sufyan when he was a firmed CURSER of Ali? He even passed fatwa for the people to engage in cursing Ali Ibn Abu Talib whom Nabi said about, "Whoever curse Ali has curse me".

* Those who slander Aisha of committing Zina were according to Quran from amongst the sahabah. In fact Aisha made mentioned of Hassan Ibn Thabit, the famous poet of Nabi to be one of them. She forgave him ONLY and said he has repented. Why do you continue love others?

FNG1:


No. Nothing like shifting goal post. You and him are the same that's what he said.

Shia = Tijjaniyya

Insulting the prophet wives you're the same.

Legalizing Formication you're the same

Legalising Taqiya you're the same.

# Now viewers can see how desperate you are after being caught paint down. Like I said, all those talk above are another set of talk which I am not interested in.

Admit that you have lied against that Sheik. Remember if you truly believe in the Quran, it says do not be unjust to the people you hated. Here you are deducing outside the submission of the poor old man.

FNG1:

No I am afonja.

What I wrote was a plain Yoruba and you tried to be funny. Then, you must be either jesting of "fear Allah" (which is haram in Islam) or must be one of Afonja's bastard.

AlBaqir:


# Ma sha Allah. Now let me test your faith and passion.

# Just for the sake of dialogue (and if you wish to call it argument), if truly you hate those people (though they are very wrong as I have established), why do you:

* Love Mu'awiyah Ibn Abu Sufyan when he was a firmed CURSER of Ali? He even passed fatwa for the people to engage in cursing Ali Ibn Abu Talib whom Nabi said about, "[i]Whoever curse Ali has curse me[/b]".

* Those who slander Aisha of committing Zina were according to Quran from amongst the sahabah. In fact Aisha made mentioned of Hassan Ibn Thabit, the famous poet of Nabi to be one of them. She forgave him ONLY and said he has repented. Why do you continue love others?

Let me tell you I don't buy all those thing you write.

What I am after is those who are companions of the prophet are best of people, they fought badr, they are Muhajiruns, what they do and what they shall do has been forgiven. So all that you're talking is baseless.

Any1 who insult the wives of the prophet is not the same as I.

AlBaqir:


# Now viewers can see how desperate you are after being caught paint down. Like I said, all those talk above are another set of talk which I am not interested in.

Admit that you have lied against that Sheik. Remember if you truly believe in the Quran, it says do not be unjust to the people you hated. Here you are deducing outside the submission of the poor old man.

No. The Shia and Tijjaniyya are the same that his first statement. I am not interested in explanation since we both love the prophet bla bla bla a blatant lie.

What I wrote was a plain Yoruba and you tried to be funny. Then, you must be either jesting of "fear Allah" (which is haram in Islam) or must be one of Afonja's bastard.

I am not saying am Yoruba. it is just a response to your derogatory word *Aboki that you used.

FNG1:



I don't have time for this: The shia he (sheik) is referring too, is the major body of the Nigerian Shi'a (IMN). Zazzaki followers.

IMN do insult Aisha r.d. They even name a goat before her name in Katsina. I can share a video of Zazzaki with you publicly insulting companions.



And the same sheik says we are the same.

# Again, you yourself have pointed out your deception.

# If you want to address or accused IMN of wrongdoing, you address and accused them rather than deceiving people with the word "Shi'a are doing this, shia are doing that".

# If you are an Hausa man or you have lived in their land to know what the Zakyzakites do or not do, then you should know (provided your bigotry had not won your soul totally) that Zakyzaky's IMN is not the only Shia group in the north or Nigeria.

# ISIS, ISIL, AL-QAEDA, AL-NUSRA FRONT, BOKO HARAM etc are all SUNNI OR SALAFI acclaimed terrorist groups. Does it make any sense (especially out of bigotry) to label all Sunnis as potential terrorists or supporters of terrorists or brothers of terrorists?

@AlBaqir. whether Ali (R.d) curse or for fight Mu'awiyya or Aisha. OR Mu'awiyya curse or fight Ali (r.d) is none of my Business. That is left 4 the two Shi'a groups.

While Ali and Mu'awiyya (R.d). are companions of the prophet and are going to Paradise, must of their followers will go to hell because they decided to choose side and curse and insult each others.

AlBaqir:


# Again, you yourself have pointed out your deception.

# If you want to address or accused IMN of wrongdoing, you address and accused them rather than deceiving people with the word "Shi'a are doing this, shia are doing that".

# If you are an Hausa man or you have lived in their land to know what the Zakyzakites do or not do, then you should know (provided your bigotry had not won your soul totally) that Zakyzaky's IMN is not the only Shia group in the north or Nigeria.

# ISIS, ISIL, AL-QAEDA, AL-NUSRA FRONT, BOKO HARAM etc are all SUNNI OR SALAFI acclaimed terrorist groups. Does it make any sense (especially out of bigotry) to label all Sunnis as potential terrorists or supporters of terrorists or brothers of terrorists?

The man says Shi'a and Tijjaniyya are the same. So you don't expect me to say IMN. But I know those who visited him are IMN members.

And IMN is the majority shia group in Nigeria back by Iran

FNG1:




Let me tell you I don't buy all those thing you write.

# Oh! You think am discussing with you to convince you?! Ha! you don foul. This is a public forum young man. Present your case, and I present mine. Thousands of people are viewing/reading. You and I are just a small cog in the whole big machine.

FNG1:

What I am after is those who are companions of the prophet are best of people, they fought badr, they are Muhajiruns, what they do and what they shall do has been forgiven. So all that you're talking is baseless.

Any1 who insult the wives of the prophet is not the same as I.

# Am deeply happy that you have agreed that some of those sahabah committed crimes.

@underlined, by the way who Says that crap?

Anyway, Quran has expose you as a lair.

Surah Al-Fath, Verse 10:

Surely those who swear allegiance to you do but swear allegiance to Allah; the hand of Allah is above their hands. Therefore whoever breaks (his allegiance), he breaks it only to the injury of his own soul, and whoever fulfills what he has covenanted with Allah, He will grant him a mighty reward.

FNG1:
@AlBaqir. whether Ali (R.d) curse or for fight Mu'awiyya or Aisha. OR Mu'awiyya curse or fight Ali (r.d) is none of my Business. That is left 4 the two Shi'a groups.

# Point of correction: It was Muawiya that used to curse Ali. And Muawiya and Aisha rebelled against the Khalifah, the Imam of their time. In your religion of Wahabism, that offence is punishable by beheading and that is Kufr according to your wahabism. Do you need prove and evidences from your Ulama?

# Why is it none of your business? Weren't you just said those people altogether were the best of generations. They haunted themselves down, gauged and slaughtered themselves, cursed themselves etc. Some of them were alcoholic drinkers and fornicators. Yet do not want me to separate grain from chaffs but rather take all of them as righteous. What kind of sense is that?

FNG1:

While Ali and Mu'awiyya (R.d). are companions of the prophet and are going to Paradise, must of their followers will go to hell because they decided to choose side and curse and insult each others.

# Okay. So Allah and Nabi, according to you who wish to distribute certificate of Jannah, are contradicting themselves?

Nabi said in your sahih hadith:

# Whoever curse Ali has cursed me. I challenge you, cursing Nabi is Kufr.

# He (saws) also said, "NO ONE love Ali except he is a mu'min, and NO ONE hate him except he is a Munafiq" (Muslim and Tirmidhi).

Mu'awiyah Ibn Abi Sufyan was an unrepentant CURSER and HATER of Ali. He worked tirelessly against Ali and his government. Mu'awiyah was a rebel leader and his group were responsible of killing several righteous sahabah of Nabi (notably among them was Ammar Ibn Yassir) who fought alongside Ali.

# And to nail it: Nabi foretold and said, "Ammar will be killed by a Baghi group. He (Ammar) will be calling them to Paradise and they (that Baghi group) will be calling him to Hell-fire.

* All classical Sunni scholars agreed that Baghi group was led by Mu'awiyah Ibn Abi Sufyan.

NB: Anywhere you seemed confused or doubt, kindly challenge me for references from your books and documents.

FNG1:




The man says Shi'a and Tijjaniyya are the same. So you don't expect me to say IMN. But I know those who visited him are IMN members.

# Under what clearly stated context did he said so? This is where you have lied against man and deduced evil.

FNG1:

And IMN is the majority shia group in Nigeria back by Iran

# Is that a news? Are there not other Shia groups far different from IMN? Are those other groups backed by the Saudis?