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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:20am On Aug 18, 2017 |
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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 10:23am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: What is this Olodo saying? Have you ever provided any evidence for God outside human history, theories, imaginations and make belief? When you provide actual evidence for God that is outside human imaginations, history and make belief only then will I begin to assume you are not a big Olodo and you have an idea of what you are talking about. That is why I've told you to show me any God that exist on it's own without human input. Instead of doing that the Olodo is crying baaa, baaa, meh meh. Olodo! What is the purpose or lack of it behind creation apart from the imaginations you have been indoctrinated with by others? You take your deluded opinions too seriously. 7 Likes |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 10:25am On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: Now you are shifting to a book and not the idea in the book ba? Where is the evidence you have for man creating the God idea? We are not talking about the bible but the Idea. I need names, pictures and dates. Over to you. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:28am On Aug 18, 2017 |
Proudgorgeousga: I strongly believe that people who indulge in these vices , perpetrators of evil works are atheists . Atheists have no foundation of morality so even bigotry , hatred , murder can been seen as good to them , it is arbitrary . Are you telling me that the South African pastor who forces people to eat grass is a Christian ? I think he is an atheist amusing himself with his ability to control innocent minds based on humans' predisposition to believe in anything elevated , supernatural , mysterious etc . Using religion or spirituality to mask your subterfuges or manipulations is open to anyone . 1 Like |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 10:29am On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: You take your rants of Olodo too seriously. An Olodo is someone who is unable to match his reasoning with his writing. You made a claim of God being a man made idea so match that claim with proof namely, names, pictures and dates otherwise your Olodo rant is actually you addressing yourself. Note: an Olodo is the person who can assume a book is same as the idea contained in it. You mentioned idea and suddenly you are switching to a book. Well I am waiting for your evidence to your claim. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:39am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: You garrit bro . If dalaman cannot provide the names , pictures and dates then he is a liar ! His claims are baseless and should be dismissed ! Atheists always say " Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence " and "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence" When their own statements come back and bite them real hard ! 2 Likes |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 10:46am On Aug 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Yep! He surely made an extraordinary claim of God being a man made idea so he needs to support same with extraordinary evidence which was why I specifically asked for names, dates and pictures. When the mirror is turned on them they resort to name calling such as his overly zealous Olodo rant. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 10:48am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: Again what is this Olodo saying? I gave you a simple task which is to show me any God that exist on its own without human input in my first reply to you. If you show me the picture you were provided of any God or give me the dates you were shown as proof he established the universe and crateed things before you believed then I'll equally provide my own pictures, and dates. Provide the pictures and dates you were shown as proof of God before you believed. 3 Likes |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:53am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: The invective was obviously said out of frustration . Do the criticism , make them defend their claims and they'd get frustrated then resort to using ad hominem attacks. 1 Like |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 10:53am On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: I think you need to revisit the earlier parts of this thread and convince yourself with that, that the claim of God being a man made idea first fell from your Olodo perfused mouth. Hence why you need to defend your claim via evidence and not seeking the evidence from someone else in defence of your silly claim. In the midst of all I just typed the meaning of Olodo is embedded in it for you to decipher for yourself. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 11:00am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: I've done that already. There is no one God. There are different ideas and concepts of God that is why there are many different Gods and religions. Your Jesus God was invented by the early church fathers whose names and the role they played in creating the theology , christian doctrines and religion tradition as a whole is well known. They started creating the religion years after the Jesus chsracter died by writing down fictional and mythical stories about him and elevating his status as God over time at their various meetings and councils. Everything about the Jesus God started like 2000 years ago before then there was no Jesus God anywhere. Allah God came around like 1600 years ago by Mohammed and his cronies. The deist movement and idea started recently in the United states. If you are a Nigerian then your own ancestors has their own ideas and conception of God they invented as well. Ifa and Olurun the God that sent Oduduwa is an example. 2 Likes |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 11:02am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: Where are the pictures and dates you were provided with as proof before you believe in God? Where are they? 2 Likes |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 11:04am On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: I am sure you know the difference between history (which you atheists claim can be falsified) and actual tangible evidence such as names, dates and pictures ba? Stop playing ignorant and just do the needful. I did not ask you for history so get to work with what I specifically demanded for. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 11:05am On Aug 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Thankfully your beliefs and thoughts are always false, so you can keep believeing and thinking what ever you like since they are always false. 5 Likes |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 11:08am On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: It seems your head first wakes up and it takes 12 hours for your common sense to wake up alongside. When did I categorically say I believe in God on this thread? I could believe in an impersonal God can I not? For that I do not need dates or pictures or anything but my reasoning. Atheism isn't like that. Atheism is proof based due to its sceptical nature. So you cannot speak for me. You need to speak for yourself as an atheist and how can you do this? You need to provide empirical evidence to your claim of God being a man made idea. I dey wait. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by CAPSLOCKED: 11:13am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: YOU'RE ATTACKING ME WITH F00LISHNESS I SEE I'LL STEP AWAY NOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T BARGAIN FOR THAT. I'M WILLING TO DISCUSS FURTHER, WITH ONLY THE SENSIBLE PEOPLE OF NAIRALAND. 3 Likes |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 11:15am On Aug 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: I am interested in the experience of other's. The only thing this thread can do is foster some understanding between atheist and theists, you and your people should get out if you aren't interestedly. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 11:15am On Aug 18, 2017 |
CAPSLOCKED: You spoke foolishness and now claims I am attacking you with foolishness? How did my words become foolish when I was simply echoing Your Own very words? If you say I attacked you with foolishness when I echoed your words then you simply confirmed that your words were actually foolish. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 11:17am On Aug 18, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: Can you show me one understanding you derived from the opening comments? You should take your own advice when storming theist threads. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 11:20am On Aug 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Why is why you basically ran away from the thread when johnnydon tackled your argument? |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:21am On Aug 18, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: Check again |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 11:21am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: Did you provide us with any tangible evidence to show us why you believe in God? Were you provided with tangible picture and date evidence before believing? |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 11:23am On Aug 18, 2017 |
CAPSLOCKED: I felt this way several times when I was younger as well, I just ignored it and decided that it wasn't my place to question and just serve. I wonder how many theists feel this way as well |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 11:24am On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: For the last time listen. I made no claims you did! I am not on the quest to convince you, you are on the quest to convince me! Your claim is not about me because that is one of the reasons you (not me) became an atheist. So show me proof of this? Rather than do this, you are looking for my own evidence when I have said and done absolutely nothing. You well so? Pictures, names, dates! I dey wait. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 11:26am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: If you believe in an impersonal God that doesn't require any evidence then why should I provide you with any evidence.? You don't need any. By the way proof doesn't need to be only in pictures and dates. I've already provided historical proof. So stop speaking for me as well. As an atheist you aren't the one to tell me what to take as evidence or proof. Just speak for yourself alone. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 11:28am On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: So proof does not necessarily need to be demonstrated In a specific way ba? Kingebukasblog kindly take note. He is empty so has nothing to show for his claim. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 11:30am On Aug 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: No true Scotsman?. Atheists are a global minority and were a global minority when world war 1 and 2 were fought, it wasn't an atheist who dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This argument is outdated. For you when a person that identifies as Christian does something bad it's not because they are Christian, but for an atheist it's because of atheism? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 11:30am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: I can play your games as well. Do you believe in God? If yes then provide the tangible proof you were provided with before you believed. If no, then I have nothing to discuss with you. 1 Like |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 11:33am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: Do you believe in God? Yes or no? |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 11:38am On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: Kingebukasblog how do you cope with this fellow? I am witnessing goal post shifting happening live right here. Dalaman what has my belief got to do with your claim? Did you ask for it before you made your claim? Besides your claim was purely atheistic so you do not need a theistic view before you can authenticate yours. My opinion matters not here. Not even remotely. Your claim is all there is. Names, pictures, dates! I dey wait. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by JackBizzle: 11:40am On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: You are the one that believes that a being is up there that watches humans. I dont. You need to show proof. If we went to a court with our argument, the judge wiĺ conclude that there is no evidence to prove God exist. I |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 11:41am On Aug 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: yeah right Christians are perfect, Helen akpabio proclaims innocent children witches because they are atheists likewise boko Haram. I repeat those that believe in religion and dogmas are more likely to bigots because they believe their religion is perfect even when it's flawed. they are stagnant and refuse to evolve. 5 Likes |
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